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CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN ANCHOR: Also 50 years in the making, Jennifer Lopez. Whoa, that was just an awesome halftime show.
LAURA JARRETT, CNN ANCHOR: She was amazing. So was Shakira --
JARRETT: -- whose birthday it was yesterday?
ROMANS: Happy birthday.
Good morning, this is EARLY START. I'm Christine Romans.
JARRETT: And I'm Laura Jarrett, about 29 minutes past the hour here in New York.
It is a week that will reverberate in U.S. history and President Trump's impeachment trial today marks the beginning of the end.
For the Democratic race to unseat the president, it's the end of the beginning. The first in the nation Iowa caucuses are today. After a year campaigning, we will get the first glimpse at just how much -- how voters feel about the Democratic field, a field that's shrunk considerably but remains deep with months of voting still to go.
ROMANS: And closing arguments are today in the president's impeachment trial. A foregone conclusion, the Senate will acquit him of charges he abused his power. But the push to uncover who knew what and when could be just beginning.
And by the way, the president will get a head start on his victory lap tomorrow night with the State of the Union in Nancy Pelosi's chamber.
JARRETT: But we begin in Iowa where Democrats will begin answering the critical 2020 question today -- can a party at war with itself beat the president in November?
Here is a sample of their closing arguments.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOE BIDEN (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We choose unity over division and we choose truth over lies.
SEN. ELIZABETH WARREN (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We've got a choice to make. Now, we can bend our knees, we can pull in, we can cower, we can be timid or we can fight back. Me, I'm fighting back. That's why I'm here.
SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I've said this before and I'll say it again, if there is a low voter turnout tomorrow night we're going to lose.
SEN. AMY KLOBUCHAR (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Look, I know that we're in a primary right now, but one of your jobs is to look at how we're going to win in the general. That is your job. My profound advice is this. We better now screw this up.
PETE BUTTIGIEG (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Every single time my party has won the White House in the last 50 years, we have done it with a candidate who is new in national politics, who is opening the door to a new generation of leadership, and who either doesn't work in Washington or hasn't been there very long. That is how we win.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
JARRETT: All right, a very special guest -- EARLY START alum and "NEW DAY" anchor John Berman begins our coverage, live in Des Moines.
ROMANS: Hey, John.
JARRETT: John, good morning.
One of the things Christine and I have been talking about this morning is just how undecided folks are heading into tonight. It seems like --
JARRETT: You know, obviously, the caucuses are a little bit different process than obviously, the other races where the second choice really matters.
What do you think?
JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR, "NEW DAY": This is my sixth Iowa caucuses, which means I've been coming here since I was three years old, and I have never seen such indecision the day before -- just hours before the actual vote. The voters here really are shopping in a way that I haven't seen before.
You heard Amy Klobuchar there. I was actually at that event about a mile from here Saturday night where she said we better not screw this up.
And that's the mentality that voters have --
ROMANS: Yes. BERMAN: -- going into caucus night. For the Democratic voters of Iowa, their animating feature is they want to beat President Trump and they desperately want the person who can best do that, and they're not sure yet who that person is.
One of the things you've heard them say on T.V. but you hear them say in person, too, is I wish we could combine two or three of them --
BERMAN: -- to come up with the perfect candidate. So, in one sense, they're not perfectly satisfied with any one candidate. On the other hand, they know what they want and that's to beat President Trump.
And it's leading to a night tonight where I have never seen so many possible variable outcomes of out this caucus.
ROMANS: So, it's interesting because the caucus is such a unique experience where there's really kind of like a low-grade peer pressure that happens in here, right? I mean, you're in this room and if you don't have enough supporters of your candidate, then you try to convince each other to go to another candidate separately or as an entire group.
So, it could really be the persuasion of the Iowa voters in there, John, who decide that they feel comfortable about a Pete Buttigieg or they feel more comfortable about Amy Klobuchar or --
ROMANS: -- Bernie Sanders. I mean, it really depends on how Iowa voters convince each other.
BERMAN: You call it a low-grade peer pressure. That's just because you know they're Iowa nice but they are also Iowa organized --
BERMAN: -- right? So, figuring out a way to get those voters who initially pick a candidate below the 15 percent threshold.
BERMAN: And the way it works in Democratic caucuses is if you don't have 15 percent in any precinct your votes don't count. You -- at least they don't go towards delegate selection. So, you get the chance to go caucus for another candidate.
So, imagine that. There could be a candidate who gets 14 percent, which isn't bad, but all of those voters in that precinct who voted for the candidate below 15 percent --
BERMAN: -- can go choose somebody else. That is why these campaigns are desperately trying to be the second choice for so many candidates.
And it's also why you've seen these candidates be reluctant to go too negative --
BERMAN: -- heading into caucus nights because they don't want to turn anyone off because they risk then upsetting the possible second-choice voters.
ROMANS: It is that process that exploded Barack Obama onto the scene, really. You know, those Iowa voters who, talking amongst each other, decided that he was -- you know, he was the candidate they wanted. So that's interesting.
JARRETT: And Iowa is the place that had more people who flipped --
ROMANS: That's right.
JARRETT: -- from Trump -- from Obama to Trump.
ROMANS: Thirty-one counties.
ROMANS: Thirty-one counties.
ROMANS: John, there was a little thing that happened last night called the Super Bowl and there were no Patriots in it so maybe it didn't even rise to your --
JARRETT: You didn't even watch.
ROMANS: -- level of interest. But there was an ad that caught our attention and, you know, Boston area native John Berman, we wanted to play a little bit of it for you.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
CHRIS EVANS, ACTOR: Look at this guy. Hey, Rachel, how are you?
RACHEL DRATCH, ACTRESS: Hey, good. How are you?
EVANS: He's not getting that car in there.
DRATCH: No, sir.
JOHN KRASINSKI, ACTOR: Look at these two troublemakers.
EVANS: Hey, Johnny, how are you?
DRATCH: Wicked car. Is that new? KRASINSKI: Yes, it's a Sonata.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
ROMANS: And, John, you know, what I wonder is if when you're not in your T.V. anchorman voice, is this how you talk?
BERMAN: That's right, that's exactly how I talk. The funny thing is none of those three talk like that neither because they all grew up --
BERMAN: -- in the suburbs like I did, right? We lived in the ritzy suburbs, not South Boston. All three of them -- Chris Evans was actually in the same children's theater group that I was, though a few years behind me because I might -- I might be a few older. But that ad made me crack up.
Can I also just say, you guys were talking about Shakira and Jennifer Lopez at the beginning.
ROMANS: Oh, yes.
BERMAN: Am I the only one who thought Shakira was way better? I know it's not a competition but to me, this was a Shakira story, not a J. Lo story.
JARRETT: John is stirring up trouble this morning.
ROMANS: No, no, do not -- do not put any kind of jinx in my girl power narrative --
ROMANS: -- on those two. They were awesome.
JARRETT: J. Lo's fans are going to come after you now on Twitter, John.
ROMANS: They're going to -- they're going to --
BERMAN: I was watching a lot of it without volume so I don't know exactly how they were singing. So just the visual presentation -- Shakira's very talented.
ROMANS: Yes, they're both very talented.
JARRETT: Yes, they both were amazing.
ROMANS: I would just like to say the core strength of both of those women is just --
JARRETT: The pole.
ROMANS: Oh, my goodness.
All right, John Berman.
JARRETT: Thanks, John.
ROMANS: Nice to see you.
It's going to be --
BERMAN: Thank you, guys.
ROMANS: It's going to be a nice day in Iowa.
BERMAN: Have fun in Iowa.
ROMAN: Yes, have fun.
All right, more on all this. Plus, Chinese stocks having their worst day in years. Investors having the first chance now to react to the coronavirus after the Lunar New Year.
ROMANS: All right, good morning.
Americans are in for three days unlike anything seen in the U.S. for a long, long time. Democrats voting today in Iowa -- a fractured party struggling to coalesce around a nominee. A fractured party that needs to heal to face President Trump who will be cleared by the Senate this week as well.
JARRETT: Joining us from Des Moines this morning, "Washington Post" White House correspondent Toluse Olorunnipa, a CNN political analyst as well.
ROMANS: Good morning.
JARRETT: Thanks so much for getting up with us this morning.
TOLUSE OLORUNNIPA, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST, WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT, THE WASHINGTON POST: Good morning.
JARRETT: Good morning.
So, who needs a big standout performance tonight? Really -- you know, obviously, we don't have a poll right now to reference one that would sort of guide us on this, but who really -- who really needs a big night tonight?
OLORUNNIPA: Well, there are several candidates that are looking to have a win of some kind out of Iowa even if they don't --
OLORUNNIPA: -- come away with all the delegates or come away leading.
There are people like Amy Klobuchar, the senator, who has been trying to have a spark for the last several months. This is her best state so far and if she does not have a great night it may be difficult for her to build a case for her candidacy.
Similar to Mayor Pete Buttigieg. This is his best state so far when it comes to polling --
OLORUNNIPA: -- and he needs a strong showing tonight to be able to show that he can compete in places like New Hampshire.
Joe Biden has also kind of gone up and down in the polls. He is someone who is looking to have a solid showing tonight to be able to say that he can continue on to New Hampshire and get to South Carolina, which is seen as his best state.
And there are other people who have been organizing her for several months, including Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders, and they're both vying for the top spot so they can claim a victory out of Iowa and sort of launch into New Hampshire with a lot of momentum.
ROMANS: You know, Iowa really matters for Democrats. I mean, maybe even more so than it does for Republicans.
ROMANS: You know, I mean, when you look at who wins Iowa in recent history -- except with a couple of exceptions for Tom Harkin and Dick Gephardt -- that person tends to go on to be the nominee.
What is so interesting about what happens in those polls -- in those caucus sites --
JARRETT: Those church basements.
ROMANS: -- those church basements and school gyms, is these are Iowans who will convince each other how to line up with a candidate as well. So, it just feels so undecided today heading into these caucuses.
OLORUNNIPA: That's exactly right. There are a lot of undecided voters who are going to decide tonight who to vote for. And maybe if they vote for someone who doesn't show they're viable and doesn't meet that 15 percent threshold, they're going to have to choose a second choice.
There's going to be a lot of convincing going on at the last minute with the various candidates and campaigns trying to convince people that maybe I wasn't your first choice, but vote for me on the second ballot. And that's why it is so undecided. That's why we may have multiple winners out of this.
JARRETT: Yes. OLORUNNIPA: Someone who says I won on the first ballot or I had a great showing on the first ballot but the second ballot did not do -- I didn't do as well on the second ballot.
So, we could see a lot of spin coming out of tonight with different candidates showing ways to say that they were victorious or that they did well, in part, because there is so much uncertainty and there are going to be multiple different results out of tonight, not just the one top winner.
JARRETT: Toluse, you're on the ground there. Have you noticed -- is there a wedge issue of sorts that really is separating folks?
OLORUNNIPA: Well, there are a few different wedge issues and there's a lot of tension right now within the party. You had a congressman, a supporter of Bernie Sanders, boo Hillary Clinton. So, there's a lot of angst over the last election and this divide between sort of the moderates and the insurgent wing -- the Bernie Sanders, the Warren wing of the party.
Health care is the biggest argument and in that front, people who say Medicare for All is the only way to go and others who say that that would hurt the economy, hurt the insurance industry. Make it hard for people to keep their private insurance. That's probably the biggest wedge issue within the party.
But there's a lot of residual concern and angst since 2016. Some of those wounds have not healed since Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton had a very difficult primary that went longer than expected and that left a lot of sore feelings within the party. And we're seeing some of that bubble up and it could continue in 2020 as well.
JARRETT: Yes. Obviously, we've seen the sore feelings continue --
JARRETT: -- between the two of them -- trading barbs in the press as well.
ROMANS: You're going to have some good weather -- 36 degrees, 21 low tonight. That's great -- that's a heatwave by Iowa in February standards, so that should be good for turnout.
JARRETT: (INAUDIBLE). Hope lots of people turn out.
ROMANS: Toluse, nice to see you.
JARRETT: Thanks so much for getting up with us. See you soon.
OLORUNNIPA: All right, thank you.
ROMANS: All right, 44 -- almost 45 minutes past the hour.
Chinese stocks having their worst day in years. Investors finally have a chance to react to the coronavirus. Shanghai stocks plunged almost eight percent on the first day of trading an extended Lunar New Year holiday. That's the worst day since August 2015.
Now there's an escalating back-and-forth between the U.S. and China over the response. CNN's David Culver is in Beijing. And, the United States enforcing some travel restrictions now and China saying wait, you're overreacting.
DAVID CULVER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Right, it seems that China is quite frustrated with this, Christine.
And they came out through their Foreign Ministry today and they essentially said look, China -- by doing this travel restriction, the U.S. has set a precedent, OK. They've got other countries now following suit and China is becoming increasingly isolated. It's hurting here and that's what the country is pushing back against.
But at the same time, they also point out that other countries have stepped in to help, namely Japan and South Korea, for example. When they bring their flights in to evacuate their citizens, they are also bringing in medical supplies. And then, the citizens get on those planes and go back to their home countries.
In the case of the first flight with the U.S., it appears that didn't happen. And we're now hearing that there's a holdup for this second flight.
You've got hundreds of Americans still within the city of Wuhan, the epicenter of all of this, who are trying to get out. And they were telling me over the past several hours that they were supposed to leave today, it's been delayed. They're not sure what's going on. And it's possible that it's this back-and-forth between the two governments right now.
Now, we asked the Chinese Foreign Ministry is this punishment for the U.S. issuing this travel restriction against China? They didn't comment directly but they did say that they need to keep room at the Wuhan airport for aircraft that bring in enough supplies, which they are in dire need of. So, it seems to suggest that they're looking for that goodwill exchange, Christine.
ROMANS: All right, David Culver for us in Beijing this morning. Thank you, David.
We'll be right back.
JARRETT: Hail to the Chiefs. Kansas City is celebrating its first Super Bowl victory in 50 years.
ROMANS: Oh, a game that really lived up to all the hype, right? Coy Wire has more in this morning's "Bleacher Report" from Miami. Hey, Coy.
COY WIRE, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Christine and Laura.
The Kansas City comeback kids reaching their first Super Bowl in half a century by overcoming 10- and 24-point deficits and now this, a shocking comeback to win the Super Bowl.
They were down 10 with seven minutes to go. And quarterback Patrick Mahomes, he was looking human -- two interceptions already in the game. But the 24-year-old phenom finds that Mahomes' magic. A haymaker to Tyreek Hill was the spark they would need.
Mahomes then throws two touchdowns in about four minutes, including this to Damien Williams who barely crosses the goal line. That gives K.C. the lead. He's stretching out there for that.
Mahomes looking to become the first quarterback in NFL history to lead three double-digit comebacks in a single postseason.
Then, Williams puts this one out of reach for good. Thirty-one to 20 is the final. The Chiefs, after decades of heartbreak, are champions.
Head coach Andy Reid no longer the winningest coach without a Super Bowl ring. And, Mahomes is the youngest player ever to win league MVP and a Super Bowl. He talked with us after the game.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
PATRICK MAHOMES, QUARTERBACK, KANSAS CITY CHIEFS, SUPER BOWL MOST VALUABLE PLAYER: Hey, we're coming home. It's going to be amazing. Everybody be out there for the parade. We're bringing the Lombardi home.
ANDY REID, COACH, KANSAS CITY CHIEFS: And I've got a great bunch of guys, man -- they're phenomenal. So, I could go to another 20 years with this group.
WIRE: They're comeback kids, how?
REID: Heart, man -- you know that -- it's heart. So, I'm proud of them.
WIRE: You are just the third African-American quarterback to ever win a Super Bowl. What does your story -- what does that message send to kids all across America?
MAHOMES: I think it just means no matter where you come from, no matter -- no matter how you were raised or what race you are, that you can -- you can go out and follow your dreams. That's what I've always believed.
No one thought I was going to be a football player; everyone thought I'd be a baseball player. But I followed my dreams and now I'm here winning the Super Bowl with all my teammates.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
WIRE: Now, head coach Andy Reid, he becomes a Kansas City legend, cementing himself as one of the greatest coaches in NFL history. He persevered 21 years as a head coach without a title. His players, so happy for him -- listen.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'll tell you what, I am more excited for that guy than anybody else. He deserves it so much. He puts so much work into everything he does and to see everything pay off for him -- I mean, that was unbelievable.
MAHOMES: Coach Reid told me out there -- both of them -- to keep firing, keep believing in your eyes, keep throwing it. And he gives me the confidence to go out there no matter what I do and we worked out well in the end.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
WIRE: Now, Andy Reid is one most the most likable head coaches in the NFL. He's a walking sound machine or quote machine, I should say. Afterwards, he said I'm going to go and get the biggest cheeseburger you've ever seen. You deserve it, coach.
ROMANS: All right.
JARRETT: Thanks, Coy.
ROMANS: Coy Wire, nice to see you, thanks.
JARRETT: Appreciate it.
WIRE: All right, you, too. Thanks.
JARRETT: Well, President Trump miffing his congratulatory tweet to the Chiefs. The president praised the champs for representing the great state of Kansas. Of course, the Chiefs play in Missouri.
Matt Fuller of the "Huffington Post" says, "No one actually thinks Trump could locate Ukraine on a map, right?" Remember, of course, his Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who is from Kansas, recently tried to embarrass a reporter by asking her to point out Ukraine on a map.
ROMANS: This map has been retweeted thousands of times. It looks like someone took a Sharpie to Kansas and extended it into Missouri. An ode, of course, to Sharpie-gate when the president extended that hurricane map.
After about 10 minutes, the president posted a new tweet with the correct state.
JARRETT: Well, there was no shortage of buzzy Super Bowl ads last night and the halftime show has been getting some rave reviews, especially on this desk.
ROMANS: Yes. Joining us now, "Variety" senior T.V. editor Brian Steinberg. Brian, thanks for getting up early for us this morning.
It felt like the tone fun, not so serious. Was there a different one to these ads overall, you think?
BRIAN STEINBERG, SENIOR T.V. EDITOR, VARIETY: I do think so. I think the last couple of years we've had some very high-minded ads talking about lifestyles and the environment and technology. And I think people wanted something more relaxed.
STEINBERG: They want -- they're happy. They wanted it in a fun, interesting way and this year they got it.
JARRETT: OK, which one was your favorite? I'm guessing Snickers?
STEINBERG: I think I'll go for the Snickers ad. I just thought it was a really interesting way of bringing everyone together. Everyone kind of grousing about the economy, about cell phone messages and that kind of thing. But in the end, they all came together in this whacky kind of revival format.
ROMANS: This is kind of like that Coke hilltop ad in the 70s --
STEINBERG: Yes, the --
ROMANS: -- right?
STEINBERG: Exactly so.
JARRETT: But we're pointing out a lot more things that obviously, society is struggling with --
STEINBERG: More complaints.
JARRETT: -- right now.
STEINBERG: More complaints.
And we also noticed -- and you write about this in your piece in "Variety," sort of a cross-pollination that's going on between brands. We all remember the Mr. Peanut ad -- I think we can play it here. We thought he had died. It turns out --
ROMANS: He's not dead.
STEINBERG: He's back. JARRETT: He's back.
STEINBERG: Yes. They had a lot of interesting spokescharacters from different walks of life --
STEINBERG: -- that showed up in different ads -- absolutely. That's unusual.
ROMANS: Mr. Clean, Mr. Kool-Aid showing up there. And also, I think between the Tom Brady Hulu ad and that Mr. Peanut ad, it's a reminder that these companies and brands have done a good job of maximizing their $5 million investment or whatever it is by having social media pushing it before the event. And then, I'm sure there will be a -- there will be a tale today, too.
STEINBERGER: These ads cost so much money they can't afford not to try all they can do.
JARRETT: Yes. And what about halftime?
ROMANS: Yes, what did you think?
STEINBERG: I thought it was a really good, strong show.
STEINBERG: I mean, everyone's talking about it. I think it symbolized -- you know, it was two female performers, not some white guy --
STEINBERG: -- like Bruce Springsteen or Tom Petty -- not that there's anything wrong with that. But I think you wanted to see a broader array of talent and I think they got it last night.
JARRETT: Yes, and obviously, it doesn't beat you over the head with politics.
JARRETT: But it's hard to miss the idea that look, immigrants, let's be frank, are under attack right now in this country. And so, to have two Latino women, strong women there -- obviously, the Puerto Rican flag -- with 40,000 feathers on her back. The reverse, the American flag, sort of an homage if you will, right?
STEINBERG: Yes, I think it was a very strong show. Just look who is in America and you just realize this kind of thing.
ROMANS: It was a spectacle, too. I mean, I think we can safely say that these two women brought the spectacle back to the halftime show.
JARRETT: Yes, and the entertainment back --
JARRETT: -- to it, right?
STEINBERG: I mean, the physical demands of the whole thing alone were really interesting.
ROMANS: Yes, and neither of those women is 22 and that's what's super awesome also. I mean, I'm serious. These are talented, grown-up women --
JARRETT: Moms, yes.
ROMANS: -- who are really fierce moms working. They take working mom to a whole new level --
JARRETT: They do.
ROMANS: -- right?
ROMANS: All right. Brian Steinberg, nice to see you. Thank you so much.
STEINBERG: You, too. Thank you.
JARRETT: Thanks so much, Brian.
Well, a Kleenex moment in Irving, Texas getting a little bit of attention. Forty-two-year-old Erika Benning sworn in as the city's newest police officer, and she broke into tears when her son, 21-year- old Army Sgt. Giovanni Pando showed up to pin the badge on her. He's been stationed overseas and they hadn't seen each other for two years.
Erika had to postpone her dream of becoming a police officer for a couple of decades when she became Giovanni's mom.
ROMANS: Love that story.
JARRETT: It's great.
ROMANS: All right, we are on at 3:00 a.m. eastern tomorrow morning, whew, for complete coverage of the Iowa caucuses. It should be a good one, folks.
Thanks for joining us. I'm Christine Romans.
JARRETT: We know you'll be up. And, I'm Laura Jarrett. "NEW DAY" starts right now.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
WARREN: This is our moment in history and it launches right here in Iowa. BIDEN: If you stand with me, we'll end Donald Trump's reign of hatred and division.
SANDERS: We are taking on the entire political establishment; both the Republican establishment and the Democratic establishment.
BUTTIGIEG: Running for office is an act of hope and so is caucusing, volunteering or being part of this process.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Kansas City, we did it, baby.
REID: I've got a great bunch of guys, man. They're phenomenal.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The most important thing is taking this trophy back to Kansas City. It feels unbelievable, man. You can't tell me nothing. World champ for the rest of my life.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY with Alisyn Camerota and John Berman.
BERMAN: There must have been sheer jubilation in the Camerota household -- big Kansas City Chiefs fans and big Shakira fans, frankly -- and both the Chiefs and Shakira were the clear winners coming out of the Super Bowl, yes?
ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: Over the moon, over the moon. My husband, lifelong Chiefs fan, even in the lean years, and my 13-year- old son were there. They kept sending pictures. They were so elated.
And back at home, we had a full plate of nachos as we watched Shakira and J. Lo, and we all just were giving them standing ovations. It was fantastic.
BERMAN: I've got to say it was an unbelievable game. I always thought that the Chiefs were going to come back. No matter how far ahead the 49ers were, I knew Pat Mahomes could do it.
And once again, I will say this because people haven't focused enough on this.