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Vetting Info from Giuliani; New Poll Numbers from New Hampshire; Bryant Honored at Oscars; Highlights from the Oscars. Aired 6:30-7a ET
Aired February 10, 2020 - 06:30 ET
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KENT FRASURE, WIFE HAS CORONAVIRUS: Just take care of yourself, but there's no reason to panic.
WILL RIPLEY, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: And wash those hands.
FRASURE: Wash those hands, absolutely.
RIPLEY (voice over): The Frasures say it's time to stop living in fear, even as they live on the front lines of a global health emergency.
RIPLEY: The Japanese government says they are now considering testing all of the people who remain on that boat. But, incredibly, we just checked in with Kent, Rebecca's husband, Alisyn, he still doesn't have coronavirus. He is not one of the people who was offloaded from the ship. He says he thinks he should have it considering how he was with his wife every single day in close proximity, but he doesn't.
ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: Oh, my gosh, Will. I mean your reporting is comforting but confusing. I appreciate that you're telling everyone not to be alarmist, but we do have Dr. Sanjay Gupta coming up later in the program to explain how she can be getting better without medication and why her husband doesn't have it.
Will, thank you very much for your reporting from the ground there.
So, Rudy Giuliani's effort to dig up dirt on the Bidens led, as you may recall, to President Trump being impeached. Now that Mr. Trump has been acquitted by the Senate, is Rudy Giuliani picking up right where he left off? That's next.
JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: This morning, the retribution tour is full on. Who will be next? The president has already fired two government officials who testified under oath in the impeachment investigation. They're gone. And now his close ally, Lindsey Graham, has indicated there might be more to all of this. After Rudy Giuliani launched the investigations into the Bidens that got the president impeached to begin with, some Republicans wondered, hey, did the president learn his lesson? Maybe not.
Listen to this.
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MARGARET BRENNAN, CBS NEWS ANCHOR, "FACE THE NATION": Can you clarify? You said you talked to Attorney General Barr.
SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R-SC): This morning.
BRENNAN: This morning. Has the Department of Justice been ordered to investigate the Bidens?
GRAHAM: No. The Department of Justice is receiving information coming out of the Ukraine from Rudy --
GRAHAM: To see -- he told me that they have created a process that Rudy could give information and they would see if it was verified.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BERMAN: Joining me now, CNN's senior political analyst John Avalon and CNN political commentator Joe Lockhart.
John Avlon, the attorney general of the United States is telling Lindsey Graham that the Justice Department has set up a mechanism to get information from Rudy Giuliani, the guy who helped get the president impeached?
JOHN AVLON, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: Yes. Yes. That's happening right now.
BERMAN: So you can confirm that I just heard what Lindsey Graham said out loud.
AVLON: You heard that. Yes, he did -- he did, in fact, say that out loud.
BERMAN: Can you also confirm that a number of Republican senators who voted against convicting the president said he's going to learn his lesson. The administration surely --
BERMAN: Surely they're not going to engage in this kind of behavior again.
CAMEROTA: Hold on a second. How is this not learning a lesson? Isn't this what the lesson is from impeachment, which is, they now are going to see if Rudy's information is verified now. AVLON: Yes. So the most generous explanation is that the Justice
Department is going to create a channel to try to make sure the information it's Kremlin propaganda. The bad news, that also means that they are taking dirt and they're funneling it against his president's political enemies, as he tried to do in secret the first time around, just like Republican senators are trying to do by getting documents from the Treasury Department against Hunter Biden.
BERMAN: I'm sorry, how is creating a crazy box at the Justice Department learning a lesson from impeachment?
CAMEROTA: Because maybe they've putting it in the circular file. Maybe what they've learned from impeachment is that the Justice Department --
AVLON: They're just continuing the crazy.
CAMEROTA: Hold on. Hold on. That the Justice Department should now handle this. Maybe Rudy Giuliani shouldn't just be running his shadow diplomacy and maybe the Department of Justice is going to handle it now. Maybe that's the lesson.
BERMAN: The Justice Department should be investigating the Bidens?
CAMEROTA: No, the Justice Department should be looking to whatever Rudy Giuliani's digging up.
JOE LOCKHART, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Remember -- remember -- remember from the testimony, Trump doesn't want an investigation. He wants an announcement that someone's investigating. And Lindsey Graham, on national television yesterday said, guess what, Ukraine failed, our Justice Department is now looking into this. And Trump will take that -- what Graham said and take it one step further --
LOCKHART: And say the Department of Justice is looking into this. It's so serious. So that's what that was about.
CAMEROTA: But it's just -- it's just PR. It's just an announcement and PR.
AVLON: But -- but -- but, but, but, but last week --
LOCKHART: Well, at -- at -- we know at least it's a political dirty tricks move. They may actually be doing things. They may actually, you know --
AVLON: Republican senators are asking for documents from the Treasury Department on Hunter Biden to perpetuate this, to try to get and do in public what they couldn't -- the president couldn't get away with doing in private without getting impeached.
CAMEROTA: Senator Ron Johnson, for instance, who is -- one of the people who knew that the prosecutor was corrupt. He knew --
AVLON: Who requested that Biden intercede.
CAMEROTA: But there's more. If you like this, oh, I've got more.
Lindsey -- Senator Lindsey Graham sent a warning to it sounded like the president as well as other Republicans about what to fall for and whatnot to fall for yesterday.
Listen to this.
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SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R-SC): If Rudy Giuliani has any information coming out of the Ukraine, he need to turn it over to the Department of Justice because it could be Russian propaganda. Every American politician, you should be very cautious about receiving information coming out of Ukraine --
MARGARET BRENNAN, CBS NEWS ANCHOR, "FACE THE NATION": Right.
GRAHAM: And other countries that may be backed by Russian misinformation campaigns.
BRENNAN: Does the president know that? Because he -- he --
GRAHAM: I hope so.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
CAMEROTA: Now it could be Russian propaganda? Now Crowd Strike and all of the information that Rudy Giuliani's come up with is Russian propaganda to Senator Graham?
This -- let's just not forget how completely insane this situation is. The condescension of Senator Graham saying to the president, hey, remember not to fall for that propaganda. You know, please, I'm not going to say it too loudly because I'm afraid of offending you, just like my entire party is, but remember not to take Kremlin propaganda and propagate it, Mr. President, please. That's crazy pants.
Look, this is --
CAMEROTA: That's what's just happened.
AVLON: That is what is happening. And, you know, this is a major problem that has been totally normalized by the Republican Party in dealing with a president from a position of weakness while simultaneously saying that he's irresponsible in the extreme.
LOCKHART: But if you -- if you want to know what Republican leaders were up to on Sunday morning, Lindsey Graham told us. He talked to Bill Barr, called him on -- and say, let me tell you what we're doing as Justice. He goes on. He put that -- this stuff out there, perpetuating this myth, this debunked theory on Biden and then the show's offer, two minutes later the president tweets about Lindsey Graham.
LOCKHART: It we -- if you don't think this effort is coordinated, then you're not watching.
AVLON: Well, let's not overestimate the coordination. But Captain Snowflake in the White House is doing the airing of grievances all weekend. And let's not ignore the obvious. I mean this is -- this is a president who is not acting tightly wrapped while the Senate is doing his bidding. And all to orchestrate a political hit job in broad daylight against Joe Biden.
CAMEROTA: But Lindsey Graham is warning him not to do that.
BERMAN: I'm glad you're putting so much faith in what Lindsey Graham and Bill Barr, to keep this all on the level here.
CAMEROTA: It's not a fake (ph). It's that when I hear it differently. I hear Lindsey Graham trying to claw back his reputation of -- and I'm trying to warn everybody now not to fall for it. Because there was once upon a time he used to -- he used to feel that way back when Senator John McCain was -- was alive.
AVLON: Plausible deniability for the history books (ph).
BERMAN: All I'll say is the president brought up --
LOCKHART: It's not working.
BERMAN: The president brought up Bill Barr in his first phone call -- or second phone call, I guess, with Zelensky on July 25th. So Bill Bar has been named in a lot of this from the beginning. So you want to think that he's being handed over to him to maybe make it go away? Good luck. Good luck.
CAMEROTA: Thank you. I'll take that luck and I'll move on right now, gentlemen.
Who's up and who's down in New Hampshire ahead of tomorrow's primary? We break down the latest poll numbers, next.
CAMEROTA: In less than 24 hours, the first votes will be cast in New Hampshire. Polls from this weekend show Senator Bernie Sanders maintaining a strong lead. But what do the others poll numbers show? Let's get "The Forecast" with CNN's senior politics writer and analyst Harry Enten.
HARRY ENTEN, CNN SENIOR POLITICS WRITER AND ANALYST: Hi.
CAMEROTA: You are -- so this is your moment, baby. You are so excited.
ENTEN: This is my moment to shine.
All right, let's take a look. Here we go. The New Hampshire Democratic primary polling average. We have now, we have Friday, and we have a week ago. And I think that there are a few important trend lines here.
Number one, Bernie Sanders, pretty steady at the top of the polls here, 27 percent now, 26 percent Friday, 26 percent a week ago.
What else is going on? Well, obviously, Joe Biden dropping like a rock from 19 percent a week ago down to 13 percent now.
Here are the two other important trend lines here.
Pete Buttigieg, he was at 12 percent a week ago, jumped up to 22 percent on Friday. Look at this. He seems like he's leveled out a little bit here, folks. And why perhaps has he leveled out? Because look at the bottom line. Amy Klobuchar, she was at 7 a week ago, 8 percent on Friday and 10 percent now. It seems that her debate performance on Friday night might have been able to step -- stop Buttigieg's momentum.
BERMAN: And what you're suggesting is perhaps moderates, the moderate voters, are coalescing or they're moving among those three candidates, the Biden, Buttigieg and Klobuchar?
ENTEN: Yes, you know, if you were to sort of look at the moderates, I think this is rather interesting. You could see that this -- sort of the split lane, right? If you look at early January, look how far ahead Biden was with moderates at 35 percent. He is way down at just 18 percent now, versus Klobuchar, she's up from 7 to 15 percent. Buttigieg jumped from 14 percent to 26 percent. The guy who's the beneficiary of all of this, is this guy right here, who's dominating in that very liberal lane. He would love if the moderates were split. And that's exactly what's going on right now.
CAMEROTA: Are you -- I mean are you surprised by what you're seeing here? Is some of this -- is all of this in terms of Biden's slide from the muddled Iowa caucuses?
ENTEN: It absolutely is. And you can sort of see this in my odds, right? You can see that before the New Hampshire primary -- or, excuse me, before the Iowa caucuses a week ago, Biden had a four in 20 shot of winning in New Hampshire. That's down to just about a one in 30 shot now. And that is all because of Iowa in my opinion. Really, when you come in fourth place and you're the front runner nationally, you're expected to take a dive, and that's exactly what happened in New Hampshire.
BERMAN: You just have to listen to what the Biden campaign is saying, they're not talking about winning New Hampshire, they're talking about surviving New Hampshire.
ENTEN: They're -- they -- their -- they're just --
BERMAN: That's two different things.
ENTEN: Yes, they're just hoping to get the heck out of there.
BERMAN: What do we know about New Hampshire historically?
BERMAN: Do you have to win it? Do you have to come in first or second?
ENTEN: Well, historically, on the Democratic side, if you're looking here, the nominee in their New Hampshire finish back since '72, what do you see here? You see a lot of first and second places here. There's no one who's finished third or worse on the Democratic side and gone on to win the nomination. If they came in first and -- if they fell below first and second in New Hampshire. So the fact is, if you look, historically speaking, there's not a lot of precedent for someone fishing in fourth or fifth in New Hampshire and then going on to win the nomination.
CAMEROTA: What do the demographics tell us?
ENTEN: Yes. Well, perhaps one reason to think that maybe this year might be different, I mean, look at this, nationally, Democrats, 57 percent are white in New Hampshire. Ninety-five percent of them are white. So, you know, if you're thinking about Nevada, South Carolina, nationally going down the road, maybe someone like Joe Biden who has more appeal to non-white voters, may, in fact, be able to break the mold.
BERMAN: Can I draw on your board?
ENTEN: Please do.
BERMAN: I want to circle this right here.
CAMEROTA: Is this allowed?
BERMAN: One percent of Democratic voters in New Hampshire are black, correct?
ENTEN: That is correct.
BERMAN: When they go to South Carolina, which is a little more than two weeks away -- you could write on the board now -- what percent of the Democratic voters in South Carolina are African-American?
ENTEN: About 60 percent. Sixty percent. And, in some numbers, it's even higher than that.
BERMAN: That's an unbelievable juxtaposition.
CAMEROTA: But, I mean, that's always been Joe Biden's plan. So has anything changed now that he's -- ENTEN: The momentum -- you know, African-Americans so want to get
behind someone who's going to win the Democratic primary. And I think these results perhaps might question them in their own mind.
BERMAN: All right, so Bernie and Pete, they are leading right now. What do we know about them going forward?
ENTEN: Yes, the only thing -- you know, Bernie Sanders in a much better position in Nevada, South Carolina and nationally. Look at him here versus Buttigieg. Much weaker in those states once you get out of -- outside of states that aren't predominately white.
BERMAN: Well, 5 percent is way better than he's been doing for a long time there.
ENTEN: Perhaps so.
CAMEROTA: I know you're going to sing "Happy Birthday."
ENTEN: I just want to say -- happy birthday New Hampshire primary. One hundredth anniversary of being first in the nation.
BERMAN: Who won the first New Hampshire primary?
ENTEN: I think you might know that.
BERMAN: I don't know the answer to that.
ENTEN: I don't know.
BERMAN: I don't know the answer.
CAMEROTA: Neither of you know this.
BERMAN: It was 1920
CAMEROTA: Viewers, please, help us.
ENTEN: My father wasn't even alive in 1920. Come on.
CAMEROTA: Tweet at John.
BERMAN: I didn't even know they had a New Hampshire primary in 1920.
ENTEN: Ah, I --
CAMEROTA: You know what they say about New Hampshire? Don't take it for granite.
CAMEROTA: Thanks, Harry. Thank you very much. ENTEN: Thank you.
BERMAN: All right, "Parasite" won the best picture Oscar last night and, in the process, made history. We'll bring you the biggest moments from Hollywood's biggest night, next.
BERMAN: So, two years after winning an Academy Award, Kobe Bryant was honored at the Oscars last night.
Andy Scholes has more in the "Bleacher Report."
Good morning, Andy.
ANDY SCHOLES, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: Yes, good morning, John.
You know, Kobe won an Oscar for his animated short film "Dear Basketball" two years after retiring from the NBA. And the picture of him holding that Oscar back in 2018, it was shown during the tribute for all of those who died over the past year.
Now avid NBA fan and director Spike Lee also honoring Kobe last night. He wore a purple and gold suit with Kobe's number 24 on the front and the back of it.
Now, during the show, former NFL player Matthew Cherry won the same award that Kobe did, best animated short for his film "Hair Love." It's a seven minute film about an African-American father's attempt to do his daughter's hair for the first time. And when accepting the award, Chery said, this one's for Kobe.
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MATTHEW CHERRY, WON ACADEMY AWARD FOR BEST ANIMATED SHORT FILM: This award is dedicated to Kobe Bryant. May we all have a second act as great as his was.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
SCHOLES: Now, if there was an Oscar for best dunk, I tell you what, this one would definitely win right here.
BYU's cheer squad just chunking (ph) Cosmo the Cougar from beyond the three point line and he slams it home. That's 22 feet away from the basket he flew through the air. I tell you what, Alisyn, one of the most impressive dunks of all time. The NBA dunk contest is this Saturday. And if say Dwayne Howard had his Lakers teammates out there just throwing him from the three point line, he would win for sure. So awesome. CAMEROTA: That is.
BERMAN: That has to be a (INAUDIBLE) violation. You can't do that in most states in this country I don't think.
CAMEROTA: I mean you -- you can't do that to a real pet. That --
BERMAN: It's a human in there.
CAMEROTA: That's a human.
CAMEROTA: I think.
That is crazy, Andy.
SCHOLES: One of the best dunks ever.
CAMEROTA: OK. Thank you very much.
All right, "Parasite" making history at the Oscars, becoming the first non-English language film to win best picture.
And CNN's Stephanie Elam is live in Los Angeles. She's been up late with all of the highlights.
STEPHANIE ELAM, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Is it last night. Is it this morning. I'm not sure, Alisyn.
But what I do know is that it was all about "Parasite" last night at the 92nd Oscars, the Academy Awards, about that movie. The acting, we pretty much expected, but here's a look back at all that happened.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And the Oscar goes to "Parasite."
ELAM (voice over): An historic victory at the Oscars last night as the South Korean film "Parasite" became the first non-English language film to take home best picture.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I feel like a very opportune moment in history is happening right now.
ELAM: The Academy lowering the lights during the film's acceptance speech. The crowd demanding they let the winner's finish. "Parasite" director, Bong Joon-ho also winning best director and best original screen play. And the newly titled category best international feature film.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The glass ceiling has been broken. You said that you were feeling pretty good. How are you feeling right now.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think we destroyed the barrier too much. We should have taken our time, actually.
ELAM: The four acting awards did not offer many surprises.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And the Oscar goes to Renee Zellweger.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Joaquin Phoenix, "Joker."
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Laura Dern, "Marriage Story."
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Brad Pitt, "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood."
ELAM: But the night wasn't without its political statements.
BRAD PITT, ACTOR: They told me I only had 45 seconds up here, which is 45 seconds more than the Senate gave John Bolton this week.
ELAM: And jokes too.
STEVE MARTIN, ACTOR: A couple of years ago there was a big disaster here at the Oscars where they accidentally read out the wrong name and it was nobody's fault but they have guaranteed that this will not happen this year because the Academy has switched to the new Iowa caucus app.
ELAM: The show opening with a high octane musical number by Janelle Monae.
JANELLE MONAE, MUSICIAN (singing): And it's time to come alive, because the Oscars is so white (ph).
ELAM: Incorporating the lack of diversity in Oscar nominations right into her number.
MONAE: We celebrate all the women who directed phenomenal films.
ELAM: Actress Natalie Portman highlighting the all-male directing category wearing a cap with the names of women who directed critically acclaimed films but were not nominated this year.
The call for more female voices in Hollywood was clear.
HILDUR GUDNADOTTIR, FIRST FEMALE WINNER, BEST ORIGINAL SCORE: To the girls, to the women, to the mothers, to the daughters who hear the music bubbling within, please speak up. We need to hear your voices.
ELAM: The show was hostless again this year, but Steve Martin and Chris Rock performed an opening monologue that also noted the lack of diversity in nominees.
CHRIS ROCK, ACTOR: Cynthia did such a great job in "Harriett" hiding black people that the Academy got her to hide all the black nominees.
ELAM: The Oscars also saw some light-hearted moments with James Corden and Rebel Wilson addressing their recent box office flop.
REBEL WILSON, ACTRESS: As cast members of the motion picture "Cats" -- JAMES CORDEN, ACTOR: Nobody more than us understands the importance of
good visual effects.
WILSON: Good visual effects.
ELAM: And just to get back to "Parasites," Bong Joon-ho, I asked him about it, when he won for screen play. Well, his partner was speaking at the microphone. He kind of looked at the statuette and kind of was like in disbelief. And I asked him about it. He's like, he didn't expect to win as much as he did. In fact, he kept saying that he was going to start drinking for the rest of the night and then he kept winning. And so maybe now, Alisyn, he's drinking and maybe now, Alisyn, since I heard you talking to John, you will actually watch "Parasite," maybe this weekend.
CAMEROTA: Well, I don't want it to get in the way of my drinking. But -- but --
CAMEROTA: Yes. But I might be able to squeeze it in.