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Rep. John Lewis (D-GA) Speaks At Anniversary March In Selma, Alabama; Michael Bloomberg Gets Silent Protest Treatment In Selam, Alabama; Biden Hopes Win In South Carolina Gives Him Momentum In Super Tuesday; President Trump Announces New Intensified Travel Screening For Coronavirus; Elie Honig Answers Legal Questions In "Cross-Exam". Aired 5-6p ET
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ANA CABRERA, CNN HOST: You're live in the CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Ana Cabrera in New York. It's the race for the White House and right now some of the leading Democrats running for president are standing in one of the most important places in modern American history, and they are with someone who made it so important.
This is Selma, Alabama, the Edmund Pettus Bridge where a peaceful march for equal human rights turned horribly violent 55 years ago this week. And meeting the crowd on the bridge just a short time ago, U.S. Congressman John Lewis, riding onto the bridge in the backseat of this car.
Lewis, of course, was badly hurt in a police beating on that bridge in 1965 and has attended every commemorative march since. His attendance today, of course, even more meaningful after his dreadful health news just a few weeks when we learned he has stage 4 pancreatic cancer.
And Congressman Lewis spoke to people on that bridge just a short time ago, urging them to make their voices heard this election season.
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REP. JOHN LEWIS (D-GA): Fifty-five years ago, a few of our children attempted to march from Brown Chapel AME Church across this bridge. We were beaten, we were tear-gassed. I thought I was going to die on this bridge. But somehow and some way God almighty helped me here.
We cannot give up now. We cannot give in. We must keep the faith. Keep our eyes on the prize. We must go out and vote like we never ever voted before. Some people gave more than a little blood. Some gave their very lives.
So to each and every one of you, especially you young people, the fraternities and sororities, you look good. You look colorful. Go out there. Speak up. Speak out. Get in the way. Get in good trouble, necessary trouble, and help redeem the soul of America.
I thank each and every one of you. I'm not going to give up. I'm not going to give in. I'm going to continue to fight. We need your prayers now more than ever before. Let's do it!
Selma is a different place. America is a different place. But we can make it much better. We must use the vote as a nonviolent instrument or tool to redeem the soul of America. Thank you very much. Good to see you.
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CABRERA: That man, Congressman John Lewis, is on the phone with us right now. First, congressman, so great to hear you today. So many people care for you. You sounded strong there in Selma, but really how are you doing. How are you feeling?
LEWIS (via telephone): I'm doing well. I'm feeling good, stronger and stronger every day.
CABRERA: That is wonderful to hear. Tell us why it was so important for you to be on that bridge today.
LEWIS: Well, 55 years ago I gave a little blood on that bridge. And I felt that I should come back and be here with the people because there's still hundreds, thousands, and millions of people in America that have been left out and left behind.
People's voting rights are being abused or denied. People still standing in long lines when it comes to register or when it comes to vote and we must make it simple and easy for people to participate in the Democratic process.
CABRERA: In your memoir, you wrote about your experience in 1965, "If there was ever a time in my life for me to panic, it should have been then, but I didn't. I remember how strangely calm I felt as I thought this is it, people are going to die here. I'm going to die here." What was it like to be back on that bridge in Selma today?
LEWIS: It was very moving to be back on the bridge today, to see hundreds of thousands of young people with their mothers, their fathers, their grandparents, great grandparents.
To see black and white people, Hispanics, and others standing together, marching together, walking together, to not forget what happened and how it happened.
CABRERA: In your remarks you talked about the importance of voting. You said, "Vote like you've never voted before." What did you mean by that?
LEWIS: I simply meant that we have the power to change things. And the vote is the most powerful nonviolent instrument or tool we have in a Democratic society and we must use it. If we fail to use it, we will lose it.
CABRERA: You also spoke about redeeming the soul of America. What does that look like?
LEWIS: We got to make America better for all of her people where no one is left out or left behind because of their race, their color, because of where they grew up or where they were born. We're one people, we're one family. We all live in the same house, that's the American house.
CABRERA: But what do you see as the next step because you spoke on the bridge about how times are different today than they were in 1965. Thank goodness, and yet there's more progress to be made, right. What do you see as the next step?
LEWIS: We got to continue to see that all of our young people, all of our children receive the best possible education. We got to see that people are able to move up and not stay down. We must continue to -- we must respect the dignity and the worst (ph) of our all citizens. We live in a strange period.
I lived and grew up during the days of different presidents. And I met with presidents. I got to know President Kennedy. I met with him twice. There was a greater sense of hope, a greater sense of optimism, and we must find a way to inject into the very vein of America with that sense of hope, that sense of optimism for all of our citizens.
CABRERA: What gives you hope today?
LEWIS: I am very hopeful and very optimistic that we're going to work everything out. It's the feeling that the changes that are continuing to witness in so many different parts of America. And the American people want us to be hopeful, to be optimistic, and to lead them to a better place, to a better time, and that's what we must do.
CABRERA: Finally, what is your message to any young potential John Lewis out there today trying to make whatever it is they do count and make a better, more equal, more just life for those that are in future generations?
LEWIS: I would say to young people, be bold, be brave, be courageous, never become bitter or hostile, never hate or s Dr. Martin Luther King said on many occasions, hate is too heavy a burden to bear. The way of love is a much better way.
CABRERA: It's a beautiful message. Congressman John Lewis, thank you very much for taking the time. We all wish you the very, very best in your continued health battle with cancer. Sending you lots of thoughts and prayers. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and your strength with us today.
LEWIS: Thank you very much.
CABRERA: Thank you. We'll continue our coverage of this historic day, a powerful scene in Selma, Alabama as thousands march over the Edmund Pettus Bridge, the scene of "Bloody Sunday" in 1965. You're live in the "CNN Newsroom."
CABRERA: Welcome back. Earlier in Selma, presidential candidate Michael Bloomberg was met with a silent protest while visiting a historic church in the city. Watch this.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- 200 African-American. It was just another instance of black families being systematically robbed and exploited. Some of that didn't end slavery but continue --
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CABRERA: You just saw nearly a dozen church attendees turn their backs on the presidential candidate while he was speaking to this congregation about the need to tackle racial injustice in America. And throughout his campaign, Bloomberg has repeatedly apologized for his handling of the controversial stop and frisk policing tactic that was used while he was mayor of New York City.
And he has now based his campaign on performing well in this week's Super Tuesday contest. CNN Business and Politics Reporter, Cristina Alesci is joining us from San Antonio, Texas where Bloomberg has a rally tonight.
Cristina, you have some new reporting about how Bloomberg is pivoting now that Joe Biden has some momentum coming off his South Carolina win last night. Fill us in.
CRISTINA ALESCI, CNN BUSINES AND POLITICS REPORTER: That's right. Michael Bloomberg needs a strong finish on Super Tuesday. He's heading into it on the heels of Joe Biden's spectacular finish last night in South Carolina.
And the reason that he needs to do so well in Super Tuesday is that if he doesn't and if he lags behind Joe Biden, then he is going to -- Bloomberg is going to face pressure to perhaps step aside so that support can coalesce around one moderate voice to go up against Bernie Sanders.
And when I spoke to Bloomberg earlier this week on Friday, actually, I asked him about what his plans are if he doesn't perform quite as expected on Super Tuesday and whether he's worried about fracturing the moderate vote. Listen.
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ALESCI: Super Tuesday.
MICHAEL BLOOMBERG (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDIATE: Yes. ALESCI: If you lag behind Joe Biden, what are you going to do if you lag significantly behind?
BLOOMBERG: I'm heading out to campaign in a whole bunch of cities. There's an election seven days later. That's what I'm going to do.
AELSCI: Right. But if you lag behind him after Super Tuesday, do you feel like you're way behind him? Are you worried about fracturing the moderate Democratic vote?
BLOOMBERG: No, any more than he's worried about him fracturing the vote.
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ALESCI: So, Ana, you heard it right there, Michael Bloomberg seemed very fixated on continuing through March 10th, seven days after Super Tuesday. So even if he has a subpar finish on Super Tuesday, he's planning to keep campaigning and keep trying to get voters out to the voting booths for him, Ana.
CABRERA: He's invested so much money already into this race, more than half a billion dollars in ad spending. He spent an eye-popping $170 million just on Super Tuesday ads. But with all this controversy, Cristina, about stop and frisk, how well does he expect to perform especially in those southern states with large African-American populations?
ALESCI: That's an interesting point and I wanted to go back to the church today. In addition to those protests, Michael Bloomberg's chilling reception really stood in contrast with the kind of reception that Joe Biden got.
Joe Biden spoke at the same church. He was welcomed with applause. Look, for Michael Bloomberg, he's going to try and pivot. He's going to try and talk about coronavirus and how he has the management experience managing crises in New York City.
And I spoke to a campaign aide just yesterday who told me voters will be heading to the voting booths in the midst of this crisis as investors are freaking out over the stock market.
And they hope that those same voters will see the ads on T.V., including a new one that will air at 8:30 tonight on CBS and NBC about -- it's being build as an address to the nation from Michael Bloomberg, talking about how he would handle the coronavirus.
So they're hoping that that plays in his favor, but certainly there are big questions about whether he can really garner the kind of support from the African-American community, especially on the heels of Joe Biden doing so well in South Carolina. Ana?
CABRERA: Cristina Alesci, thank you. We will check back a little bit later.
Meantime, the coronavirus situation in the United States is changing rapidly now from new screening procedures at airports to first responders under quarantine. When can we expect another diagnosis and what we'll be facing in the week ahead?
And President Trump's team celebrating a major legal victory. A lot more than that live in the CNN NEWSROOM.
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JOE BIDEN (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: To all those of you who've been knocked down, counted out, left behind, this is your campaign.
Just days ago, the press and the pundits declared this candidacy dead. Now, thanks to all of you, the heart of the Democratic Party, we just won and we've won big because of you.
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CABRERA: That was Joe Biden celebrating a blowout win in South Carolina last night, a win he hopes will give him new momentum into Super Tuesday. And joining us now is former DNC chairman, former presidential candidate and former governor of Vermont, Howard Dean.
CNN Senior Political Commentator and former Governor of Michigan, Jennifer Granholm, and Political Advisor and creator of "The Circus: Inside the Greatest Political Show on Earth," Mark McKinnon.
And Mark, let me start with you because you've been in these early voting states. You've seen the ups and downs for just about every campaign. After all these questions about whether Biden has enthusiasm around his campaign -- he did raise $5 million in the last 24 hours, but would you say he has completely reset the race?
MARK MCKINNON, CREATOR, THE CIRCUS: INSIDE THE GREATEST POLITICAL SHOW ON EARTH: I think he really has. This is a huge bounce back. He's off the mat. And there's a big psychology going on here among Democratic voters. They're thinking strategically and they are thinking who can beat Donald Trump.
And what's happened here is that Mike Bloomberg jumped in with a theory that Joe Biden was going to collapse and he would be the guy standing there. Well now that he's bounced back and had a bad debate performance in the first one and okay on the second.
But I think voters are now saying, well, maybe Bloomberg is not the savior and Joe's bounced back. So I think there's going to be quite a flight to Joe Biden on Super Tuesday.
CABRERA: Governor Dean, what do you think Bloomberg is thinking today?
HOWARD DEAN (D), FORMER PRESIDENTAL CANDIDATE: I think -- well, he's right. That's exactly what he's thinking. You know, this is an interesting process and I've said many times that I really don't think it's worth speculating much until about 12 days from now after we see not only Super Tuesday but also Michigan and some of the big states that are coming in a week later.
After that, I expect a three-person race. And I'm not sure who the three people are going to be, but six people are not going to be able to raise the money to compete at this level in a serious way.
CABRERA: Governor Granholm, Biden had said it was the endorsement of Congressman Jim Clyburn, the highest ranking African-American in Congress, who brought him back in South Carolina. But when I talked to Clyburn yesterday, he was critical of the way Biden's campaign has been run. Take a listen.
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REP. JIM CLYBIRN (D-SC): We need to do some retooling in the camp and no question about that. I did not feel free to speak out about it or to even deal with it inside because I had not committed to his candidacy.
I have now. I'm all in. And I'm not going to sit on the by (ph) and watch people mishandle this campaign.
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CABRERA: Governor Granholm, what do you think the Biden campaign needs to do differently or better?
JENNIFER GRANHOLM, FORMER GOVERNOR OF MICHIGAN: Well, obviously, whatever they did in South Carolina, they got to keep doing that. And there's this notion that, for example, if this comes down to a Bernie Sanders/Joe Biden race, that Bernie Sanders is the one who's generating all of this excitement, et cetera.
But, you know, I mean, it depends on which group you're talking about. And if you're generating excitement just among young people and we really need to have young people excited, but the historic trends of young people turning out as we all know are not that great.
And we just haven't seen even in this election the kind of turnout that's necessary to be able to get a candidate who's further on the polls to win a general election. So I think Biden got an incredible formula in South Carolina.
I think Jim Clyburn on the team helping that out gives other Democrats confidence that he's going to be able to continue to, I'd say, enhance his campaign. But honestly, if you can keep doing that he's doing in South Carolina and expand further, that is going to be the winning ticket.
CABRERA: Mark, as big as this victory was for Biden and just a couple of days, we'll talking about who won Texas, who won California, a fact not lost on Senator Bernie Sanders. Here he is addressing his South Carolina loss last night.
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SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I-VT), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We have won the popular vote in Iowa.
We have won the New Hampshire primary.
We have won the Nevada caucus.
But you cannot win them all. There are a lot of states in this country. Nobody wins them all.
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CABRERA: Just this morning we learned Sanders raised a whopping $46.5 million just in February, shattering his previous record. He has strong organization in those Super Tuesday states, but Biden is playing catch-up.
Remember, more than a third of pledge delegates available will be allocated after these 14 states vote this week. Mark, what are you anticipating? What could this race look like come Wednesday?
MCKINNON: Well, again, I think what's going to happen is a lot of people who may have been supporting Pete or Amy or Warren, but especially Bloomberg, are going to look at this and say, okay, Joe's bounced back and Joe's a great general election candidate.
Everybody has known that all along. They just need to show they had some fight and that he can win. And now he's won, and so I think there's going to be great coalescing toward Biden. Now, Bloomberg's other play, now that he has seen this happening, is to do his coronavirus thing tonight.
He had a great piece in the debate about that where he shows I'm the CEO, I've handle public health before. This is a good, smart strategic play for Biden. And he can win Florida.
It's no accident that he's going to be in Florida on Tuesday because what he's saying is listen, I don't need to win Wisconsin or Michigan. I can win Florida and have three times the delegate we need from those Midwestern states. So that's kind of his backup plan B that he's heading toward now.
CABRERA: Governor Dean, CNN is reporting Biden's campaign wants Senator Warren and Klobuchar to both stay in this race through Super Tuesday in order to block Senator Sanders from winning or at least winning big in their home states of Massachusetts and Minnesota. Remember, Sanders won Minnesota back in 2016. What do you think about that strategy?
DEAN: Well, I think -- this is the kind of stuff you talk about on these shows, but the truth is the only people who are going to get Warren and Klobuchar and Buttigieg out of the race is them, not anybody else. I've been in this position.
You leave when you're ready to leave and when most of all, when you think your supporters are ready to have you leave. So, it's a really personal decision. This I do not believe is the tactical decision. I do not -- you're going to get -- I think you're going to get people to drop out for tactical reasons to help somebody else.
This is a weird field in the sense that, you know, the classic thing is you team up a filed with a vice president and a president, it's going to be hard to do that because these are such different kinds of candidates.
For example, you couldn't have two 70-year-olds running on the same ticket I don't think with an electorate that says turned on as they are. So, it's very complicated. I just don't think you're going to get much deal-making this early in the process. You may at the convention, but I'd be very surprised to see it now.
CABRERA: Let me just follow up on that because we heard Joe Biden say there have been any conversations that he knows between -- at least himself with these other candidates. But does it make sense to you, Governor Dean, having been there, done that, for them to continue fighting on some of these candidates who have very few delegates at this point, haven't won any contests?
DEAN: Well, I mean, that's what you're going to find out in the next two weeks or 10 days, really.
These folks are either going to get themselves into a position where they seriously got some momentum or their going to -- their funding is going to dry up and they'll have to get out.
If you can't do well in the next two races, Super Tuesday and the Tuesday following, you're going to have to drop out. You're not going to have any money and that becomes a fool's errand. So, you know, I do think we're going to be down to three, possibly even two candidates after the second Tuesday, not this coming Tuesday, but the second Tuesday afterwards.
But it's not going to be done because somebody makes a deal. It's going to be done because the voters decided that they were going to narrow the field, which is what they've done so far.
CABRERA: Governor Granholm, what do you make of Pete Buttigieg's standing right now? Here's a guy who won Iowa, came in a strong second in New Hampshire. He's third in the delegate count so far and yet he's just sort of faded from the conversation. Why is that?
GRANHOLM: Well, I think clearly his lack of ability to get traction in the African-American community was really -- has really harmed him, and it may extend a bit to the Latino community as well. You can't win. You just cannot win the Democratic primary unless you have a coalition that includes significant numbers of people of color and I think that's been his challenge.
He's got such a bright future, Pete Buttigieg does. And as Governor Dean said, nobody's going to stay in this race longer than their voters or their means will allow them to. Nobody wants to take on debt to chase a fool's errand.
So, he's going to have to make some decisions, as is everybody over the next couple of days. I'm going to be interested to see, I mean, you started to talk about Bloomberg. He's got the money to go the distance, but his rationale for entering this race was that he didn't see a viable moderate candidate who could beat Donald Trump.
You know, that may be fading a bit for him. Even though he'll have the money, I don't know that he's going to have the rationale and he's going to have to make decisions as they all are over the next few -- I would say honestly right after Super Tuesday, people are going to have to really start making these decisions.
CABRERA: It could be a different race altogether when we speak hopefully next weekend again. Governor Granholm, Governor Dean and Mark McKinnon, it's always great to have all of you with us. Thank you very much.
DEAN: Thank you.
CABRERA: Super Tuesday is now less than 48 hours away. One day, 14 primaries and no one brings it to you like CNN. Special live coverage starts Tuesday at 4:00 p.m. Eastern right here on CNN.
New developments in the coronaviruse outbreak -- President Trump announces new screening procedures at U.S. airports. And why some first responders are under self-quarantine. We'll answer your questions about this deadly outbreak.
CABRERA: The number of coronavirus cases here in the U.S. steadily increasing today, now up to 74. Again, that's just in the U.S. after two new cases were detected in Washington State and a third all the way across the country in Rhode Island.
Officials there in Rhode Island say this person traveled to Italy in mid-February. And Italy is one of the countries designated by the CDC as high risk. In fact, we found out today that the number of cases in Italy alone increased by 50 percent overnight.
Now, in a bid to slow down this outbreak, President Trump is implementing new screening procedures. He writes, "In addition to screening travelers prior to boarding from certain designated high- risk countries or areas within those countries, they will also be screened when they arrive in America."
CNN is waiting for a response from the White House on exactly how this would work. And while we wait, I want to bring in Dr. Zeke Emanuel, President Obama's former White House health policy advisor. And doctor, we now have one person who has died in the U.S. We have more cases of community spread we're learning about in the U.S. What should we be expecting in the coming days?
ZEKE EMANUEL, FORMER OBAMA WHITE HOUSE HEALTH POLICY ADVISOR: A lot more cases is what we should be expecting. We now know from studies in Washington State that a virus has been circulating there in the community probably since mid-January from a person who was in Wuhan came back to the United States and a similar virus turned up in a teenager more than a month later.
The teenager was basically unaffected, recovering at home. So it's been spreading out in the community, and it'll be spreading out in lots of other communities. We'll just find that out by testing many more people. So, I think what we're going to see is the numbers go way up and having these of any kind doublings overnight won't be that surprising.
CABRERA: When you talk about testing more and more people, I know that's been a concern of yours and other health professionals have expressed a similar sentiment, but I mean, how do you even figure out who to test, who may have been exposed when people didn't realize they had coronavirus? What does that tracking process look like?
EMANUEL: You're 100 percent right. If what we're worried about is asymptomatic people spreading it that is going to be a serious problem. What we've got now at the moment is testing people who we suspect because they have symptoms, fever, shortness of breath, persistent cough and things like that.
But we're going to have to do some prevalence testing, which is to find out in communities like near Seattle what the prevalence is in the community. We're also going to do back tracing, going from the person who now has the disease to others that they interacted with and find out how many are positive, but this is going to be a little bit of a hit and miss game as you yourself suggest.
One of the things I would suggest to your viewers is if you're having symptoms, fever, cough, shortness of breath, and you're thinking of going to the doctor or the emergency room, you should call ahead so that they are prepared to handle you in a slightly different way so you don't sit in the waiting room potentially infecting other people if God forbid you have the coronavirus.
So I think that's an important thing that we need to take -- be aware of. And you're going to see probably processes change in many emergency rooms to have sort of two parallel processing systems for potential patients.
CABRERA: The president announcing these new travel restrictions, increased screenings at airports. How would large-scale screenings work? Has that ever been done before?
EMANUEL: I'm not exactly sure that this is the solution to the problem. We already have the virus in the country. That's what we're seeing. Having more screenings, we're already seeing a huge drop in travel and we're going to see an increased drop in travel.
I will tell you that, you know, I'm the vice provost of Global Initiatives at the University of Pennsylvania, and we have a lot of faculty students who are curtailing their traveling. We have spring break coming up in a week, and a lot of programs that we've had have been curtailed.
I myself am not curtailing my travel, but I think you're going to see a big drop. You know, we can prevent people coming from the places we identify now as hot spots like Italy, South Korea, but remember, there are probably, again, cases all over Europe that we haven't identified and haven't been tested.
And they may be asymptomatic as we've seen, so most of -- I think the experts in this think we're beyond the quarantine, the sort of retarding stage. We've had that retarding stage and now we're going to see internal spread in the country from asymptomatic cases, people spreading to other people, what we've been calling community spread where there's no known link to a person who's been to Wuhan or been to northern Italy.
CABRERA: And so people want to know how can they protect themselves. You talked a little bit about it, how people should alert health professionals if they start to feel sick, but a lot of talk has, you know, a lot of controversy really over the masks has taken place in the last couple of days. Clarify for us. Who should be using those masks?
EMANUEL: But there's no -- wait, wait, wait. I'm the expert view. There's no controversy about the masks. We should be very --
CABRERA: I think there's just more of a misunderstanding then for a lot of people.
CABRERA: It's best probably a better word to use --
CABRERA: -- because that's why I want to ask you about it, is just to clarify for those of us who, you know, aren't sick and those who are concerned about protecting people who may be vulnerable. Who should have these masks?
EMANUEL: People who are sick. Not people who aren't sick. And so if you're going out to wherever it is, Home Depot or some pharmacy, and think you can get a mask and you're going to put it on, it's going to make no difference. So don't do that.
As the surgeon general said, it's really not going to protect you. The main thing is that people who are infectious, putting on the mask will prevent droplets from coming out.
But it's really important that they have to dispose of that because of what you do is, you know, you take the mask off, you leave it at home, and someone touches the mask while they're throwing it out. They might begin touching the droplets and then touch their face and spread it.
And that's, I think, you know, untrained people using masks is not a helpful public health measure, and I think that's what is worrying and I think why the surgeon general was emphatic about advise, no, do not go around wearing masks.
And so people who are wearing them on, you know, airplane rides or train rides, coronavirus is a big droplet. It's not the air that's going in and out. So, washing -- first, get the flu vaccine because you want to prevent that from infecting you.
Washing hands, don't share utensil with someone who might have some symptoms. Be alert to your symptoms and don't go into work if you've got symptoms, fever, cough, shortness of breath.
If you're alerting -- if you're going to a health care person, emergency room, urgent care center, your doctor, call ahead, tell them why you're coming in so that they can handle you in a way that minimizes your exposure to other people.
I would also say, you know, we're getting into a different phase, just the pace of reporting, the number of cases, and we are again, going to see the number of cases going up.
And you've already heard the public health officials out in Seattle area talk about, you know, maybe we're going to need social distancing, not having people go to sporting events, malls, et cetera. This is a real possibility and it's something we wrestled with during swine flu in 2009- 2010 in the Obama administration.
It's a major step. You don't do it lightly, but if you do it, people need to be prepared for that and need to, you know, have food at home and other items.
And as public health officials have said, make sure you have enough medications. Now, they can be delivered by mail now, which was not as readily available before. But we do need to begin to be prepared.
CABRERA: Okay, Dr. Zeke Emanuel, thank you for giving us that ghood guidance and expertise. We really appreciate you joining us on this Sunday. Thank you.
EMANUEL: No problem. I hope the viewers find it useful.
CABRERA: I'm sure. We all do.
More on our breaking news -- an emotional appearance by civil rights icon John Lewis in Selma, Alabama, today. We'll have more from our powerful conversation and his message to voters. Stay right there. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)
CABRERA: A major legal victory for President Trump.
A federal appeals court ruling former White House counsel Don McGahn cannot be compelled to testify on Capitol Hill and can defy a Congressional subpoena. Now, this comes weeks after Democrats lost their bid to call additional witnesses during Trump's Senate impeachment trial.
And this brings us to our weekly "Cross-Exam" segment with CNN legal analyst and former federal and state prosecutor Elie Honig. So Elie, House Democrats claim they have the right to hear from McGahn. Trump and his allies say they don't have a right.
And of course we saw them refuse the top aides being -- you know, testifying before Congress during the impeachment process. One viewer wants to know, what are the broader implications of this, of this court ruling?
ELIE HONIG, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: Yes. So, Ana, this was a legitimate shocker and I want to make sure our viewers understand how important this is. So, the Court of Appeals down in D.C. on Friday by a 2-1 vote ruled Don McGahn cannot be compelled to testify in Congress.
Importantly, the court did not rule whether the subpoena was legitimate or not. What they ruled was this is not for us. This is a battle between Congress and the president and they said this is "unfit for judicial resolution."
I don't know what they're talking about. I mean, they're judges. This is a legal dispute between the White House and Congress. You don't have to stay out of it, but they did. And big picture, what this does is it fundamentally alters the balance of powers.
If this ruling stands, it means the White House, any executive branch agency, justice, state, defense, can get a subpoena from Congress, rip it into shreds, throw it in the garbage and the courts are going to say, nothing we can do about it.
So, what happens next? Jerry Nadler from the House has said he is already going to seek what's called an en banc review, meaning the entire Court of Appeals in D.C., 17 judges, would hear the case. Now, that's rarely granted, but the stakes are so high here that it is in play.
And after that, whoever loses this certainly going to try to get the case up to the Supreme Court. You need four of the nine justices to agree to take the case. If it does go up, it's going to be a huge opinion.
CABERRA: A couple of big rulings on immigration also came down on Friday dealing with remain in Mexico policy and whether migrants who cross into the U.S. illegally or at these, you know, between the main border crossings, whether they can do that and still apply for asylum.
So, another viewer wants to know, how does the recent decision on asylum seekers impact the Trump administration's immigration policy?
HONIG: So this is a major defeat for the Trump administration and for their immigration agenda. Now, this one came out of a different Court of Appeals in the Ninth Circuit out in California and they blocked this "wait in Mexico policy."
And what the means is when a person applies for asylum in the United States, it means they need to make a showing that they're in some danger in their own home country. And what the Trump policy did is, they said while that is pending, while we're making that decision, you cannot wait in the relative safety of the United States, you have to wait in Mexico.
And where they are waiting is really in some terrible conditions in a dangerous region in the northern part of Mexico. In fact, over 50,000 asylum seekers and the court here -- I thought this was really interesting -- made a finding that those people were subjected to risk of substantial harm and even death.
And that's why this is such an important ruling. Now again, I expect the Trump administration is not going to just take this defeat. I think they're going to try to get it maybe to this en banc review, definitely to the Supreme Court. So again, we don't quite have the final word, but a big setback for the administration here.
CABERRA: Let's talk about Roger Stone's case. One viewer asks, how likely is it that Stone will win his motion for a new trial based on his allegation that a juror was improperly biased against him?
HONIG: It's unlikely in my opinion. So, every trial starts with jury selection and what happens is, potential jurors come up and they are questioned by the judge and the prosecutors and the defense lawyers. We call that process voir dire.
If you look at the record, this juror in question here said she was a Democrat, she ran for Congress and she was aware of this -- of Roger Stone and the Russia investigation.
And then importantly, either side has the ability to strike jurors. To remove them, and both sides here said she's okay. So the only question is did she make a material false statement. She did not in court. There is a written questionnaire that we have not seen yet. So, unless there is a surprise there, this motion is going to lose.
CABERRA: Okay, we are out of time for your top questions so, can you do it in 10 seconds for us?
HONIG: I think I can. Will those two cases go up to the Supreme Court? Will Judge Jackson reject Roger Stone's motion? And will the Attorney General stand up to Donald Trump in his constant meddling with judges and juries.
CABERRA: Nicely done. Thank you very much Elie. HONIG: Thanks, Ana.
CABERRA: Good to have you here.
Now, long before Prince Harry and Meghan Markle were in the gossip pages, it was Queen Elizabeth facing scandal and rumors involving her marriage and the role of the monarchy. Here's a preview of tonight's brand new episode of "The Windsors: Inside the Royal Dynasty."
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Philip is struggling with living in the shadow of his powerful wife.
GYLES BRANDRETH, WRITER & ROYAL BIOGRAPHER: Her idea was that she would wear the crown, but he would wear the trousers. You know, he organized the home. He decided where the children should go to school. All the domestic matters were decided by Prince Philip. Here is a young spirited man, huge energy. His whole world becomes circumscribed. And of course, he does itch for a bit of freedom.
PIERS BRENDON, HISTORIAN: He let off steam by going to what's known as "The Thursday Club" in Soho, which is more as the red-light district actually of London.
PHILIP EADE, BIOGRAPHER: "The Thursday Club" is predominantly is a male lunching club. It was a place where Prince Philip felt he could sort of escape and let his hair down in private.
BRENDON: And there was lot of drink drunk and a lot of dirty jokes told and a general sort of air of dissoluteness.
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CABRERA: Tune in tonight at 10:00 right here on CNN. We'll be right back.