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Aired March 7, 2020 - 05:00 ET
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MICHAEL HOLMES, CNN ANCHOR (voice-over): The coronavirus hits a new milestone with more than 100,000 cases confirmed. In Italy, even the prime minister is refusing to shake hands as the death toll in that country jumps.
And violence in the Afghan capital during what is supposed to be a time of peace.
Where do we go from here?
Live from CNN World Headquarters in Atlanta, welcome to our viewers here in the United States and all around the world. I'm Michael Holmes, CNN NEWSROOM starts right now.
HOLMES: Well, the coronavirus appears to be tapering off in China, at least for now. But new cases are surging elsewhere, all around the world. Nearly 21,000 infections now confirmed outside of China, a third of those in South Korea.
The country has just reported 270 new cases. Here you can see long lines of people waiting to buy face masks.
Around the world, well over 100,000 people are infected. Nearly 3,500 of them have died. Off the California coast, at least 21 people aboard the Grand Princess cruise ship tested positive. CNN's Nick Watt with that situation.
NICK WATT, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): On board the Grand Princess cruise ship, uncertainty and fear, how many, if any, passengers are positive. The testing continues. At least five from the ship's last leg of its voyage caught the virus. One died.
CYNTHIA TRAVERS, PASSENGER ON GRAND PRINCESS: He was around a lot of us on the cruise up on the 14th deck where we all kind of lounged and hung out.
WATT (voice-over): It's an older crowd and that demo is hardest hit.
DR. PETER HOTEZ, DEAN, SCHOOL OF TROPICAL MEDICINE AT BAYLOR COLLEGE OF MEDICINE: Those over the age of 70, were looking at 10-15 percent case fatality rates.
WATT (voice-over): In Washington State where at least seven deaths are now tied to this nursing home. There is grief, fear and now confusion. Add Herrick's mom among the dead.
PAT HERRICK, MOTHER DIED FROM OUTBREAK IN NURSING CENTER: --tested, I want her body tested. And I've been told, well, we do that. You know, we just gave to assume that it's natural causes. And so I'm saying, it's not OK. I need to have her tested for the larger picture.
WATT (voice-over): The University of Washington just announced no more classes on campus. The North Shore School District already shut down. At least 80,000 students in the Seattle area now being kept home.
JESSICA READ, KIDS OUT OF SCHOOL UP TO TWO WEEKS: They said up to 14 days they might be closed.
WATT (on camera): Are you concerned that you know the virus is going to get inside your home and that you and that you and or your kids might be infected?
READ: Yes, my middle son has asthma. So it's mild asthma. But that's a big concern. Seems like here it's really what it's going for is the lungs.
WATT (voice-over): The number of confirmed cases across the country climbing at nearly three per hour in just over the past day.
And Connecticut, Emma, just back from Italy, where nearly 200 have died, is in self-quarantine, just in case.
EMMA, COLLEGE STUDENT IN SELF-QUARANTINE AFTER STUDYING ABROAD: I've been allowed to like pet my dog every once in a while, but it's pretty lonely.
WATT (voice-over): In New York State right now more than 4,000 in a similar situation.
GOV. ANDREW CUOMO (D-NY): This is like a flu on steroids.
WATT (voice-over): Eleven new cases in the state announced today, all connected to contact with one man, who's right now being treated in a Manhattan hospital.
HOLMES: Nick Watt reporting there.
Now more than 100 additional cases of coronavirus were confirmed in the U.S. just on Friday, a 50 percent increase from the day before. American health experts now recommending that the elderly as well as people with chronic medical conditions stay home and avoid social events and crowds.
During a visit to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, president Donald Trump again saying any American can be tested who needs it. That's not quite true. And that's not what his vice president said.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Anybody right now and yesterday, anybody that needs a test, anybody that needs a test, gets a test. There's a doctor that wants to test.
MIKE PENCE, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We trust in the matter of weeks, the coronavirus test will be broadly available to the public and available to any American that is symptomatic and has a concern about the possibility of having contracted the coronavirus.
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HOLMES: Well, the mixed message underscores what critics have been saying for weeks, that the Trump White House is downplaying a very real threat. Let's get more now from Jim Acosta.
JIM ACOSTA, CNN CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): With President Trump urging Americans to remain calm and avoid panicking over the coronavirus --
TRUMP: You have to be calm. It will go away.
ACOSTA (voice-over): -- top White House officials are misleading the public about the true nature of the outbreak, insisting the public health emergency has been contained when, in fact, the data shows the virus is spreading, causing more illnesses and more deaths. The officials offering those rosy assessments, White House counselor Kellyanne Conway...
KELLYANNE CONWAY, TRUMP SENIOR ADVISER: But I am pleased to report is that the 14 deaths so far that are completely tragic and very sad in this country, shows that this has been contained because the president took action and a lot of you criticized him for doing that.
ACOSTA (voice-over): -- and economic adviser Larry Kudlow are not infectious disease experts.
LARRY KUDLOW, DIRECTOR, NATIONAL ECONOMIC COUNCIL: We don't actually know what the magnitude of the virus is going to be, although, frankly, so far, it looks relatively contained.
ACOSTA (voice-over): One big problem: administration officials have yet to understand the full scope of the outbreak as testing kits for the virus are still being distributed.
ALEX AZAR, U.S. HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES SECRETARY: Just want to make it clear that in terms of tests, we have provided all the tests to the state of Washington and the state of California that they have asked for. The production and shipping of tests that we've talked about all week is completely on schedule.
ACOSTA (voice-over): A top expert on the coronavirus task force pointed to missteps at the Centers for Disease Control.
DR. ANTHONY FAUCI, NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF ALLERGY AND INFECTIOUS DISEASES: It is unfortunate that is got off it a slow start, there were some missteps with regard to the CDC's test. They had a problem, they fixed the problem.
ACOSTA (voice-over): Despite the rocky response, secretary of state Mike Pompeo claimed the U.S. is outperforming the rest of the world in its response.
MIKE POMPEO, U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE: I'm confident that we'll handle it better than any nation in the world.
ACOSTA (voice-over): Democrats aren't buying that.
GOV. ANDREW CUOMO (D-NY): The CDC says basically anyone who thinks they need a test should go to their doctor and ask for a test. The vice president says we don't have enough testing capacity to address all the tests that we need to take.
ACOSTA (voice-over): There was even confusion over whether the president would visit the CDC. First, the president said his visit was scrapped due to concerns somebody at the CDC could have the coronavirus...
TRUMP: We may go. There was -- they thought there was a problem at CDC with somebody that had the virus. It turned out negative, so we're seeing if we can do it.
ACOSTA (voice-over): -- then the White House cleared Mr. Trump to go. The president is trying to find a silver lining in the outbreak, noting that more Americans may avoid traveling overseas and choose to spend their money in the U.S.
TRUMP: I have to say, people are now staying in the U.S., spending their money in the U.S. and I like that.
HOLMES: CNN's Jim Acosta reporting there.
In the throes of the health crisis, President Trump has chose to name a new chief of staff. Mick Mulvaney being replaced by Republican congressman Mark Meadows. In a statement, Meadows called it an honor to be selected. Mulvaney will become special enjoy for Northern Ireland. Meadows will be President Trump's fourth chief of staff since taking office a little more than three years ago. Joining me now from London to talk more about this is Inderjeet
Parmar, professor of international politics at City University and visiting professor at the London School of Economics.
Good to see you.
INDERJEET PARMAR, CITY UNIVERSITY OF LONDON: Good morning.
HOLMES: Let's talk about President Trump's response to the coronavirus. The president said he had stopped it and Kellyanne Conway told reporters the outbreak had been contained. Those statements are not true.
What damage is done to the messaging to the public when you're hearing that?
PARMAR: Well, I think the credibility of that message is going to be questioned more and more. We don't really know yet the scale of this particular epidemic because the number of testing kits is so inadequate.
And I think it seems to be that the administration is more interested in protecting President Trump's own position, his ratings, the damage which is being done -- which is going to be done, possibly to raise the election campaign.
And it would appear he's equally interested in the damage done to his stock prices, which he holds in very high esteem as an indicator of the succeed of his administration. What it really shows if you like in the kind of bigger sense is that President Trump deconstruction of the American state, his various undermining of science and expertise, his cutting of funding to the Centers for Disease Control have these undermining of international cooperation, which now is shown to be so important in this global kind of what looks like an epidemic.
PARMAR: So I think there are a number of steps they're taking. But they're trying to keep control of -- to control the political damage, much more than deal with the actual level of crisis which the World Health Organization is indicating.
HOLMES: At one point, at the CDC, he was talking about how all of the doctors were amazed how much he knew about it. And perhaps he should have gone into that industry.
He did also speak and just sort of to talk a little bit about tone and appropriateness, he did speak about the governor of the state of Washington, Jay Inslee, in that CDC setting. Let's have a quick listen.
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TRUMP: I told them not to be confident because that governor is a snake, Inslee, I said if you're nice to him he might take advantage and I said, no, let me just tell you, we have a lot of problems with the governor, the governor of Washington which we have many problems.
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HOLMES: The governor obviously suffering a bit with the coronavirus and in that sentence, you've got the president referring to the governor as a snake. Speak to that kind of tone, partisan politics at a time like this, in a setting like that?
PARMAR: I think it's as much the tone as the message. In a way it goes back to the whole idea of President Trump's support base. He wants to keep his support base together, united, as we approach November 9th, 2020.
And he doesn't really seem to see that the message of unity, with the kind of unity of action where all organizations of the government, regardless of what their party affiliation needs to be needs to be united behind this particular effort.
And it goes to the heart of his America first message to the world, which is we're actually better handling this which is not actually correct at the moment.
And then the feeling that I am in charge, I know what is right. And it's a very self-centered kind of government and that's the price that the American public is going to pay, not necessarily the people most well off in the American society as a whole.
HOLMES: And reading into it what you said earlier, the coronavirus has $9 trillion of global stock markets. They're still falling. In some forecasters pointing to chances of recession. A lot of industries are being hurt. A lot of jobs could be lost. The president has hung his presidency on the stock market, the economy.
What if that's not so rosy a few months from now?
PARMAR: Well, I think that people may well begin to see, look at what President Trump actually did in regard to dealing with the health epidemic itself. In the end, that's what everybody is going to have to answer to.
What did you do?
How did you marshal the resources the entire country to deal with the crisis?
And health care is going to be front and center of the debate. The American health care system has been under criticism for a period of time.
And now we're going to be able to see how is it going to able to handle itself on the scale that the World Health Organization is suggesting it will reach?
We don't know what's going to happen in New York and other cities once the testing takes place, But I think the economic ramifications on the elections are going to have a big impact on the campaign as well as the Democratic primaries.
I think we can expect to see, a lot more people question him, what exactly are you doing to try to help us deal with this crisis?
As opposed to just saying well, sneeze into a tissue or those kind of things that individuals can take responsibility for?
Because a lot of the responsibility now falls on the authorities themselves.
HOLMES: Inderjeet Parmar, thank you for being with us, appreciate it, Professor.
PARMAR: Thank you.
HOLMES: Meanwhile, Italy reporting 49 new deaths from coronavirus. And that's almost 800 new cases on Friday alone. One image that perhaps underscores how cautious people are being around others, the Italian prime minister avoiding a handshake.
Not going to do it, he says. And Ben Wedeman in Milan has more details on that country's outbreak.
BEN WEDEMAN, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Italy is reporting the largest single increase in the number of new coronavirus cases yet. According to the Civil Protection Agency, there are 4,636 reported cases of coronavirus, among them 197 dead.
WEDEMAN (voice-over): The authorities continue to struggle to bring this outbreak under control. Meanwhile, the Cardinal Vicar of Rome is calling for all Christians to fast and pray on Wednesday. He says to ask God's help for our city for Italy and the world. While the Islamic community here is calling for cancellation of all public activities to stop the spread of this virus.
HOLMES: Ben Wedeman reporting there.
The slowdown of the Chinese travel in the wake of the coronavirus is being felt across the globe. How the tourism industry is now coping with this outbreak.
Also, when we come back, another deadly attack in Afghanistan, despite a deal to work toward peace in the region. What the Taliban has to stay about the violence, next.
(MUSIC PLAYING) HOLMES: Welcome back.
It has been less than a week since the U.S. and the Taliban signed a historic agreement aimed at ending violence in Afghanistan. ISIS is claiming responsibility for a deadly attack on Friday at a crowded ceremony in Kabul.
HOLMES: There 32 people were killed, another 58 wounded, the Taliban denying any involvement in that. CNN international diplomatic editor Nic Robertson with the details.
NIC ROBERTSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: The audience at the event literally had to duck for cover on the floor beneath their seats when the gunfire broke out.
It was gunfire followed by rocket fire, according to Dr. Abdullah Abdullah, the number two in Afghanistan, the CEO in Afghanistan. So he spoke exclusively to CNN and explained the gunfight that was going on.
It lasted well over two hours. The government forces eventually being able to take on the gunman, killing the three gunmen who were attacking this national event. Now this was a national event for a national martyr.
But the martyr was an ethnic Hazara. The ethnic Hazaras are a minority in Afghanistan and are also Shia Muslims and it is more typical of ISIS to target the Shia Muslims for their faith than it is for the Taliban.
The fact the Taliban denied it was their attack also points to ISIS being responsible. This comes at a time of rising tensions on a number of fronts in Afghanistan. Part of the deal signed between the United States and the Taliban last weekend was that the Taliban would maintain a reduction in violence, that the Afghan government would then release 5,000 Taliban prisoners.
The Afghan government has said it's too quick for them to do that, they are not able to do that ahead of the deadline that was March the 10th, just a few days away.
And on top of that as well, you have the inauguration of the new Afghan president early next week. And that is a contentious issue as well at the moment. So a lot in play in Afghanistan at the moment.
This attack, though, very deadly, even by Afghan standards -- Nic Robertson, CNN, London.
HOLMES: And joining me now in New York is CNN global affairs analyst Max Boot. He is also a senior fellow for the Council on Foreign Relations and a columnist in "The Washington Post."
And you have written about this in "The Washington Post." Let's talk about this deal. Since it was signed there have been dozens of attacks by the Taliban, also ISIS.
Do you think the Taliban has any intention of abiding by the agreement?
MAX BOOT, CNN GLOBAL AFFAIRS ANALYST: It sure doesn't look like it. But it's a little bit unclear entirely what is in the agreement because there are classified annexes. I guess the Taliban can argue that they are bidding by the letter of the agreement, which is that they are not allowing their territory to be used for attacks on the United States, which seems to be mainly what President Trump is concerned about.
And I think there was a kind of informal agreement that they would not attack major towns or U.S. troops. And so I guess you can argue that they are abiding by that.
HOLMES: The Taliban, of course, they are open about it, they do not recognize the elected government as legitimate, which isn't a great start.
I mean, what are the chances that they will in any way or meaningful way cooperate with the central government as opposed to what a lot of people think is likely and that's launching into an all out battle to retake Kabul and rule all over again?
BOOT: I think the latter option is much more likely. In fact NBC had a story just today citing U.S. intelligence sources, saying there is good evidence indicating the Taliban have no intention of abiding by any kind of peace agreement. They are basically just waiting us out and they don't have to wait that long.
They have been waiting 18 years now, all they have to do is wait another 14 months and our troops will be gone and the government of Afghanistan will be essentially at the mercy.
So why would they compromise at this point?
They just have no incentive to make any concessions or to stop fighting. And so I don't have a lot of hopes for these intra-Afghan talks that are supposed to talk soon. It's not even clear if they are going to start because president Ashraf Ghani has said he is not going to release the 5,000 detainees from the Taliban that the U.S. has promised to release as part of the accord that was concluded in Doha.
So the outlook for a settlement looks, I would say, pretty grim at this point.
HOLMES: The Taliban doesn't even recognize the government as legitimate. The U.S. president, he doesn't seem too concerned, actually.
I mean he said a couple of things but he said, quote, "Countries have to take care of themselves. You can only hold someone's hand for so long."
And then when he was asked if the Taliban could essentially seize power as we have been discussing, he said, quote, "It's not supposed to happen that way but it possibly will."
What message does that send to the Afghan people?
BOOT: It's basically sending a message that the United States is abandoning the people of Afghanistan and the democratically elected government of Afghanistan because Trump was saying, basically, I don't care if the Taliban take over as long as the U.S. troops withdraw.
BOOT: That is I think a terrible and dispiriting message to send and it will ensure that when the U.S. troops do withdraw, 14 months from now, the government of Afghanistan is going to have a hard time keeping it together because they are going to feel abandoned by the international community and by the United States in particular.
And sadly we have seen this movie before. It's similar to what happened in 1975, two years after the U.S. basically abandoned South Vietnam and then South Vietnam fell to North Vietnam. That's the precedent that everybody is concerned about.
And President Trump's comments certainly do nothing to reassure anybody that that is not the way it is going to work out.
And then you know, of course, ultimately, will it be a smart decision for the U.S.?
There is always the probably correct argument that when it comes to Afghanistan, winning might not be possible. But losing certainly is.
HOLMES: And the risk of that is a terror base that existed prior to 9/11. "The New York Times," a few months ago, was reporting that U.S. intelligence had warned that a complete withdrawal of U.S. forces from Afghanistan would lead to an attack on the U.S. within two years.
Could this backfire on the U.S. in a strategic and security sense?
BOOT: It could backfire very easily. We have evidence of that pretty recently when we pulled out of Iraq in 2011 and, by 2014, U.S. troops were back in Iraq because ISIS was on the rampage.
And the Iraqi security forces were falling apart in the face of this Islamic State onslaught. So that is very recent and a very troubling precedent for what could happen with a premature U.S. withdrawal. I mean there is no question, everybody wants to go home, nobody wants to have U.S. troops in Afghanistan for 18 plus years.
But the reason previous presidents have not withdrawn is because they were afraid of the consequences of that withdrawal.
And you know, it's possible that Donald Trump will rethink this and certainly if the Taliban are not abiding by the accord, he has every right to maintain U.S. forces. But he certainly sounds like he wants to pull them out, no matter what, regardless of the huge risks that we run by doing so.
HOLMES: Good points as always, Max Boot, I appreciate you coming on and discussing.
BOOT: Thanks, Michael.
HOLMES: Well, with countries around the globe racing to get ahead of the coronavirus and its spread, why has the United States lagged behind other countries when it comes to testing for the new disease?
We'll be back with that.
HOLMES: And welcome to our viewers in the United States and all around the world, I'm Michael Holmes. Let's update you on the hour's top stories.
HOLMES: Well, one major concern in the United States has been the very limited testing, especially compared to other countries. CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta looks at why that has happened.
DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: We will need millions and millions of tests. Problem is, more than a month after the first patient was diagnosed in the United States, we still don't have nearly enough tests.
According to our review of CDC reports, only around 1,500 people have been tested total. It is a big difference from other countries like South Korea, where nearly 160,000 people have been tested, even in the drive-through. And in the U.K., more than 20,000 people. It is basic surveillance.
And in the United States, that lack of testing has led to a lack of planning.
DR. MARIA VAN KERKHOVE, WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION: It is very important that there is an aggressive approach in the beginning, that you look for all of those cases because, as case numbers increase, systems become overwhelmed.
So as much as can be done in the early stages, the better chance you have to delay and reduce and suppress transmission.
GUPTA (voice-over): The test itself is similar to one done for the flu, a swab from the nose or the throat. The culture is then sent to a lab to see if there are any genetic traces of coronavirus. Takes about six hours.
So what happened here?
Many point to two issues: the initial test kit sent to state and county labs were defective. And then the initial CDC criteria limited testing only to those who had traveled to areas impacted by the epidemic or been around someone who had tested positive.
That greatly limited the number of people who qualified to get a test. On Thursday, the vice president publicly acknowledged the U.S. effort is behind.
PENCE: We don't have enough tests today to meet what we anticipate will be the demand going forward.
GUPTA (voice-over): And even Dr. Anthony Fauci is making no promises that the problem will be fixed anytime soon.
DR. ANTHONY FAUCI, DIRECTOR, NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF ALLERGY AND INFECTIOUS DISEASES: It got off to slow start. There were some missteps. But up to this point, there has been a lag in the ability to get tested.
GUPTA: Now this is not to suggest that everyone should run out and start asking for tests. If you go to your doctor with symptoms, the doctor may say first, hey, look, let's rule out common things first, such as the cold or the flu.
If you don't have anything to explain your symptoms, this coronavirus test may be ordered at that point. It may still, though, take a few weeks for all these tests that you just heard about to make their way to clinics and hospitals around the country. Back to you.
HOLMES: Our thanks to Sanjay Gupta there.
Now earlier I spoke to Dr. Robert Kim-Farley, a public health expert at UCLA, about the importance of consistent messaging and getting ready for what might happen next.
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DR. ROBERT KIM-FARLEY, UCLA FIELDING SCHOOL OF PUBLIC HEALTH: As these million plus kits come out over the next week or so, I think we are going to have increased numbers of cases being reported just because there is more testing going on.
HOLMES: The president said on Friday, anyone who wants to test can have one. He called the test kits "beautiful" but it is demonstrably not the case. Speak to the importance of transparent messaging at a time like this from the public's perspective.
KIM-FARLEY: You bring up a very good point. It is very important for public health officials to be consistent in their messaging, to be able to make sure the public understands what they can do themselves personally.
And when it comes to community wide measures, that their clear understanding is what may need to be closed, what needs to be changed in terms of going to, events things like this. But that should be very clearly messaged so that there is no confusion on the part of people in the community.
HOLMES: I wanted to ask you about the readiness for what might come. There are modeling scenarios out there, even moderate ones, that show potential for perhaps 1 million hospitalizations going forward, more needing intensive care, tens of thousands needing ventilators. That would overwhelm resources.
What plan is being made for the situation, what is planning for that?
KIM-FARLEY: It will be a challenge for the public health officials in the United States. What is being done, we are more prepared today than we were yesterday and will be more prepared today than we were yesterday.
We have to try through such measures such as personal non- pharmaceutical interventions, covering the cough, ensuring that we are not shaking hands anymore. If we need to, to institute these community wide measures, these things will blunt the epidemic, will make it over time, go slower. That will then help ease some of the pressures we will see on our health care system.
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HOLMES: Well, the outbreak is causing havoc, of course, with tourism, as the global travel industry seems set to lose billions of dollars. Bethlehem, one of the latest places to feel the impact. The streets empty as tourists are prohibited from visiting sites such as the Church of the Nativity. CNN's Sherisse Pham takes us through the global numbers.
SHERISSE PHAM, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The Chinese tourism industry was booming as more and more Chinese traveled places, both near and far. But all of that came to a halt in January, when the coronavirus struck Mainland China, turning major tourist spots into ghost towns.
As the virus spreads globally, the knock-on effects are being felt around the world. Tour groups cancelling trips as demand falls. International events as far as Italy, shelved. Companies telling staff to avoid traveling to affected areas.
JANE SUN, TRIP.COM: This outbreak is beyond anyone's imagination.
PHAM (voice-over): Jane Sun heads trip.com, China's biggest online travel company. As CEO, she travels abroad a lot. But these days, she's grounded, like many of her countrymen.
SUN: Once I return to China, there are many countries that I couldn't go unless I quarantine myself for 14 days.
PHAM (voice-over): Trip.com has been waiving cancellation fees for customers. Sun says the company is still crunching the numbers but the first months of 2020 are going to hurt.
PHAM: You're going to see a hit?
SUN: Of course, everyone, everywhere in China. (INAUDIBLE) culture (INAUDIBLE).
PHAM: Chinese tourists spend more while traveling abroad than anyone else. Without them, international hubs, including Hong Kong, will suffer.
PHAM (voice-over): One expert estimates that the coronavirus outbreak could mean 25 million fewer trips abroad by Chinese travelers this year. That could wipe out $73 billion in Chinese spending.
Hotels and airlines starting to count the costs. Hilton, Inter- Continental and Marriott say they'll lose tens of millions of dollars. Global carriers could lose $113 billion and then there's cruises.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We're Holland America line. We're not for everybody but we might be perfect for you.
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PHAM (voice-over): The industry in crisis mode after more than 700 coronavirus cases and several deaths were linked to the Diamond Princess cruise ship. Asia and China in particular are key markets for cruise ship passengers.
Ingrid Leung manages a cruise package company here in Hong Kong.
INGRID LEUNG, INCRUISING TRAVEL ASIA: For new bookings, I'm actually down by 95 percent. We're having different plans, instead of targeting the selling in the second quarter or the fourth quarter, we probably need to sell the fourth quarter 2000 funding (ph) or beyond.
PHAM (voice-over): Even once the outbreak ends, it will take months before the travel industry returns to normal. Until then, the few people who are going out can have some iconic places all to themselves -- Sherisse Pham, CNN, Hong Kong.
(END VIDEOTAPE) HOLMES: New accusations concerning a decades-old abuse scandal at Ohio State University. Why a growing number of former wrestlers say a Ohio congressman knew all about it and did nothing to stop it. We'll have that when we come back.
HOLMES: U.S. Republican congressman Jim Jordan is facing renewed accusations about what he knew about a decades-old abuse scandal at Ohio State University. It dates back to when he served there as an assistant wrestling coach.
A growing number of former athletes said he was aware of the abuse at the hand of the team's doctor, which the congressman denies. Our Drew Griffin spoke to former wrestlers who say Jim Jordan is lying.
DREW GRIFFIN, CNN SENIOR INVESTIGATIVE CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): He calls them all liars but more and more former Ohio State University wrestlers are coming forward to say their former assistant coach, Congressman Jim Jordan, knew student athletes were being sexually abused and are dumbfounded to understand how Jordan can deny it.
TITO VAZQUEZ, FORMER OSU WRESTLER: That's a lie. He's lying.
GRIFFIN (on camera): Period.
VAZQUEZ: Period. He's a liar.
GRIFFIN (voice-over): Tito Vazquez is the latest, a walk-on wrestler in 1989 who took an elbow to the nose, sent to team Dr. Richard Strauss, to stop a nose bleed, the doctor fondled his gentles.
VAZQUEZ: There were some wrestlers with Jordan over to my left hand side and I said something to the effect that doc's hands are freezing and that he, you know, he examined me thoroughly, extremely thoroughly, you know, my private parts. And everybody was just kind of snickering.
VAZQUEZ: Jordan said I had nothing to do with this.
GRIFFIN (on camera): But Jordan heard what you said.
VAZQUEZ: Oh, he heard what I said.
GRIFFIN (voice-over): Vazquez, a public school teacher for the past 27 years, is the sixth former Ohio State wrestler to tell CNN they directly told Jim Jordan of the abuse or Jim Jordan was present when someone was recalling abuse by the team's doctor. Eight more former wrestlers tell CNN the abuse by Dr. Richard Strauss was such a routine topic of conversation, that it's inconceivable Jordan did not know.
Yet, Jordan now a powerful Republican congressman refuses to budge.
(on camera): Six former Ohio State wrestlers who absolutely say you knew about Dr. Strauss because they told you at the time or you were there and heard it --
REP. JIM JORDAN (R-OH): You guys are still asking about this after --
JORDAN: -- Perkins Coie, Clinton's law firm, investigated this and didn't mention my name once.
GRIFFIN: Well, they didn't mention your name but they mentioned that --
JORDAN: Every single coach has said the same thing I have. All kinds of athletes have said the same thing I have. And the reason they've all said that is because it's the truth.
Look, if I had known there was some kind of problem, some kind of abuse, I would have helped out our athletes. What they're saying is just not true.
GRIFFIN (voice-over): Richard Strauss killed himself in 2005. Last year, an independent investigation concluded while Dr. Strauss worked at OSU over two decades, he sexually abused at least 177 male student patients.
Jim Jordan called the report a vindication because it did not name him. The report did not name any wrestling coach at Ohio State, did not find documentary evidence coaches were aware of complaints against Strauss. But 22 coaches confirmed they were aware of rumors and/or complaints about Strauss.
Former OSU wrestler Dunyasha Yetts says Jordan is one of the coaches who knew because he told him. In January of 1993, Yetts went to see Strauss for a thumb sprain and the doctor tried to pull down his pants. Yetts says he kicked open the doctor's door to escape. Jordan was right outside next to an ice machine.
DUNYASHA YETTS, FORMER OSU WRESTLER: He jumped up like what's going on? I said coach he tried to give me a physical exam for my thumb injury. Look, it looks like a baseball, it's swelled up. And he was like, man, if he tried that out, I would kill him.
GRIFFIN: Jordan's supporters say Yetts can't be trusted because of a past conviction for fraud, but two other wrestlers told CNN they witnessed the encounter.
DAN RITCHIE. FORMER OSU WRESTLER: What Dr. Strauss took from me that day was my dignity. GRIFFIN: Last year, former wrestlers Dan Ritchie and Mike Flusche told the Ohio legislature that among athletes and coaches, Strauss's sexual abuse was an open discussion.
RITCHIE: I do recall somebody bringing up something to one of the assistant coaches and his response was simply, well, if he ever tried that with me, I'd snap his neck like a stick of dry wood.
MIKE FLUSCHE, FORMER OSU WRESTLER: And I remember the phrase about, you know, if that happen to me, I'd break his neck.
GRIFFIN: The coach who talked about breaking Strauss's neck was Jim Jordan, according to both Ritchie and Flusche who didn't name in front of the legislature but have since confirmed it to CNN.
JORDAN: What they're saying now is just not accurate.
GRIFFIN: Mike Flusche, Dan Ritchie, you don't remember telling them you'd break the guy's neck if he did that to you.
(voice-over): Despite the specific allegations, Jordan's office says his statement stands. He knew nothing of the abuse -- Drew Griffin, CNN, Washington.
HOLMES: Well, speaking out about the Monica Lewinsky scandal decades later, just ahead, a new documentary reveals some very painful moments from the lives of Bill and Hillary Clinton. We'll hear what they have to say, when we come back.
HOLMES: Welcome back. An autobiography of Oscar winning filmmaker Woody Allen has been cancelled by the book's publisher. His estranged children, Ronan and Dylan Farrow, publicly criticized the Hachette Book Group for acquiring the book.
Some staff members had also walked out in protest. Farrow and his sister have been estranged from Allen for years after her allegation that Allen sexually assaulted her when she was just 7 years old. Allen has consistently denied the allegation and was never charged.
Well, get ready to see Bill and Hillary Clinton perhaps like you've never seen them before. It has been more than two decades since the former U.S. president was impeached for lying about his affair with Monica Lewinsky.
But a new documentary series takes a very candid look at the scandal from both sides. CNN's Tom Foreman explains.
HILLARY CLINTON (D), FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE: I was just devastated. I could not believe it. I was so, you know, personally just hurt and, you know, I can't believe this. I can't believe you lied.
TOM FOREMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): More than 20 years after the sordid revelations about President Bill Clinton and White House intern Monica Lewinsky, here's the former first couple, laying bare their painful personal details.
BILL CLINTON, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I said I have no defense. It's inexcusable what I did.
H. CLINTON: I said if this is going public, you have got to go and tell Chelsea.
B. CLINTON: And so I did that, which was awful.
FOREMAN (voice-over): Explanation, he said this.
B. CLINTON: Everybody's life has pressures and disappointments and terrors, fears of whatever. Things I did to manage my anxieties for years, I'm a different -- I'm a totally different person than I was.
I feel terrible about the fact that Monica Lewinsky's life was defined by it, unfairly, I think.
FOREMAN (voice-over): There is, of course, much more to the story and many others in the docuseries, "Hillary," four hours tracing her decades-long journey with her husband through the Arkansas statehouse, into the White House, the Senate, the State Department and presidential bid of her own.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She doesn't look presidential. You got to be blue, white and red. That's what they all are.
FOREMAN (voice-over): Battling stereotypes, mistrust and her own limitations, she is at times on the attack; for example, when she sums up the Senate record for her challenger for the Democratic nod, Bernie Sanders.
H. CLINTON: Honestly, Bernie just drove me crazy. Nobody likes him. Nobody wants to work with him. He got nothing done.
FOREMAN (voice-over): Even more so when she discusses her Republican challenger Donald Trump.
H. CLINTON: Nobody was going to hold him accountable accept for me.
FOREMAN (voice-over): Fans will take such comments as simple truths, foes will take others as glib denials.
H. CLINTON: I am the most investigated innocent person in America.
FOREMAN (voice-over): And anyone can see her final defeat on Election Night 2016 was crushing.
H. CLINTON: Obama called me and he said, I'm really sorry. But he said, you probably should concede. I'm not going to concede until the morning. I can't.
He said, Hillary, you need to call Trump.
That's when I said, oh, brother. I was totally emotionally wrecked.
FOREMAN: In some ways this really is an epic about what the nation has been going through, about changing views on morality and sexuality and truth and partisanship and women. It probably won't change anybody's view on any of that. But these days, what does? -- Tom Foreman, CNN, Washington.
HOLMES: And that wraps up this hour of CNN NEWSROOM. Thanks for your company. I'm Michael Holmes. If you are in the United States, "NEW DAY" is just ahead. For our international viewers, stay tuned for "Supercharged."