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Johns Hopkins: Coronavirus Tops 4 Million Worldwide; Virus- Linked Illness Strikes Children; U.K. Prime Minister to Announce Next Phase; Cases Climbing in Latin America; Son in Ecuador Searches for Father's Body; Dr. Anthony Fauci, Dr. Robert Redfield and Dr. Stephen Hahn Quarantine After Virus Exposure; Single Parents Struggle during Economic Crisis; Spain Relaxes Lockdown Rules; Fatal Georgia Shooting; Virtual Safaris in South Africa. Aired 3-4a ET

Aired May 10, 2020 - 03:00   ET

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MICHAEL HOLMES, CNN ANCHOR (voice-over): Hello, everyone, and welcome to Studio 7 here at CNN Center in Atlanta. I am Michael Holmes.

Coming up here on CNN NEWSROOM, Dr. Anthony Fauci and the heads of the CDC and FDA self-quarantining after possibly being exposed to the coronavirus at the White House.

The new normal across the United States, businesses reopening, restrictions easing despite experts warning. It's an experiment that could have deadly consequences.

And a question families in Latin America are asking more and more.

Where are the bodies?

Missing remains compounding the grief and devastated survivors.

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HOLMES: As nations around the world slowly emerge from their lockdowns, we have hit another disturbing milestone in the spread of coronavirus. Johns Hopkins University reporting the number of cases around the world topped 4 million on Saturday. Nearly 280,000 people have died.

And it didn't take long to get to this point. You can see how fast the pandemic spread after the first million cases were confirmed early last month. It took less than two weeks to reach the next million and the next and the next.

About one third of those cases, 1.3 million, are, of course, in the United States, with more than 78,000 lives now lost. Almost every state in the U.S. will be back in business by Monday to some extent. People in Los Angeles allowed to golf and hike again this weekend.

And as the U.S. balances opening back up with staying safe, the pandemic is hitting close to home. Some of the most prominent experts leading the administration's response to the crisis, it looks like they might have been exposed. CNN's Jeremy Diamond with more on the steps they are now taking.

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JEREMY DIAMOND, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Three top doctors on the White House Coronavirus Task Force are now going to be teleworking, working from home and carrying out some form of self quarantine for the next 2 weeks after coming into contact with someone at the White House who tested positive for coronavirus in just the last week.

That is Dr. Robert Redfield, the head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention; Dr. Stephen Hahn, the head of the Food and Drug Administration; as well as Dr. Anthony Fauci, who has become one of the most public faces of this White House's response to the coronavirus.

All of them announcing that they will be working from home for the next 2 weeks. Dr. Anthony Fauci telling our colleague Jake Tapper that he will be undergoing a, quote, "modified quarantine" for the next 14 days, working from home and wearing a mask at all times of the day.

Though he does note that if he is called to the White House from Capitol Hill, that he will go but will take every precaution necessary.

A similar message we are hearing from a spokesperson for the CDC, saying that Dr. Redfield would go to the White House if he had to fulfill any responsibilities with regards to his role there. But he would be wearing a mask.

Of course, very notable that we are seeing these 3 top medical experts on this Coronavirus Task Force, all of which are undergoing some form of self quarantine. What we have not seen is a sort of unified, centralized approach from the White House as to how to deal with this.

Earlier this week, a White House spokeswoman, Katie Miller, she tested positive on Friday. A couple of days before that, we saw one of the president's personal valets also testing positive, a Navy official.

Again, no message from the White House about whether anyone who's come into contact with them should go into self quarantine. It seems to be much more of a piecemeal approach.

What is clear, though, is that, as the country begins to reopen and many workers are being asked to come back to work, even here at the White House where there are the most strict protocols, officials coming into contact with the president now being tested daily. Temperature checks being conducted for anyone coming on to the White House grounds. Even here, the coronavirus is seeping in -- Jeremy Diamond, CNN, the White House.

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HOLMES: New York of course, still the American pandemic hot spot.

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HOLMES: The governor calling the death rate, quote, "infuriatingly constant," although the number of new cases does appear to be going down. But now there is a disturbing new twist, a mystery illness that might be linked to COVID-19 has struck children and for three of them it was deadly.

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POLO SANDOVAL, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: New York's governor Andrew Cuomo calling these recent pediatric hospitalizations as not new but as disturbing, particularly for parents. At least 73 children in and around New York that have been hospitalized with symptoms that, according to the governor, are similar to toxic shock syndrome or Kawasaki disease.

The governor being very clear that these are likely or possibly related to COVID infections. Still many questions relating to these recent hospitalizations, including 3 children that have not survived.

GOV. ANDREW CUOMO (D-NY): Now these are children who come in and do not present the symptoms that we normally are familiar with, with COVID. It is not a respiratory illness, they are not in respiratory distress. But the illness has taken the lives of 3 young New Yorkers so this is new and it is developing.

SANDOVAL: These hospitalizations are certainly getting the attention of health professionals, not just here in New York but across the country, especially since, from the beginning, we had heard that it was perhaps some of the younger people who were possibly not as vulnerable to this illness.

But now this new information that is being released by governor Andrew Cuomo is suggesting otherwise.

We should finally mention that the CDC is working with the state of New York. Their main goal is to try and develop some kind of criteria that would be applied across the country as they continue to look into these illnesses -- reporting in New York, I'm Polo Sandoval.

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HOLMES: Many Americans are getting a glimpse of the so-called new normal this weekend. Most states easing back some restrictions, despite warnings from some health experts it's too soon to be doing even that. CNN's Natasha Chen shows us how people are adapting.

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NATASHA CHEN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: By the end of the weekend, all but three states will have eased quarantine restrictions in some way, even in once hard hit Rhode Island, where the governor said Friday her state will be the first in the northeast to lift a stay stay-at-home order. GOV. GINA RAIMONDO (D-RI): If you look at the facts on the ground, the data on the ground, we're doing better. And so therefore we're in a better position so we can start to lift our restrictions a little bit sooner.

CHEN: Restrictions are lifting from coast-to-coast. In North Carolina retail stores have reopened, but at 50 percent capacity. In Delaware, stores can now offer curbside pickup. That goes for California as well, where stores can also now deliver just in time to send flowers for Mother's Day.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: For me as a small shop, I'm not going to let anybody in. But at least I can operate, cannot just open everything, because we will have a second wave and then we will go back to square one.

CHEN: San Francisco has decided to keep businesses closed until May 18th. But the rest of the state has some businesses reopening with modifications.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I stay out of the politics. I need to open. We're ready.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is what we have right now for takeout.

CHEN: Nevada and Alaska have now joined more than a dozen states to resume dine-in services in restaurants with restrictions. People can also now get a drink at a bar in Alaska at 25 percent capacity. In Arizona, people can get their haircut by appointment only. Same for Texas, with owners eager to open doors.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Everything is ready and my clients are more than ready.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Everything, I lost everything. Destroyed my business. I lost my business. That's what it has done.

CHEN: In Iowa, people can go back to the dentist, go to campgrounds, the drive-in movies and tanning facilities following special guidelines. Tennessee now joins Georgia in allowing people to go to bowling alleys. Pennsylvania is taking a county by county approach to reopening. Welcome news to this chocolatier in the town of Williamsport.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're hoping that the people, especially those who are, let's say, under age 60 come out more because, again they -- you need to just get out I think.

CHEN: Natasha Chen, CNN, Atlanta.

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HOLMES: The British prime minister Boris Johnson is expected to announce the easing of some lockdown restrictions in the hours ahead. The press association reporting Boris Johnson will likely unveil a new COVID-19 warning system with five levels. It's also reporting that he is expected to say the U.K. is close to

moving from level four to level three.

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HOLMES: CNN's Milena Veselinovic is standing by in London.

Good to see you. Everyone there awaiting the government's next move.

What are they likely to hear from the PM?

MILENA VESELINOVIC, CNN PRODUCER: We do know that the PM will announce kind of a road map for the next stage of dealing with this coronavirus outbreak. And we do expect that slogan, which had been ubiquitous, stay home, stay safe, will be revised.

There's a rule that you can only go out once a day. That's expected to be scrapped. We're also expecting some guidance when it comes to face coverings. So far the U.K. government say they provide little benefit but there have been reports and rumblings that they may recommend them in enclosed places, where social distancing is not possible, such as supermarkets and public transport, something the Scottish government has already done.

But beyond that, any further changes are likely to be small and incremental. That's what the foreign secretary, Dominic Raab, said this week when he warned there won't be a return to business as usual, there will be a new normal that U.K. citizens will have to get used to.

And officials have tried to dampen down this excitement that somehow Monday will be like a freedom day, where all of these measures will completely fall off. And that's because social distancing will remain at the core of the strategy to battle this outbreak.

Even when all of these restrictions start falling off, social distancing will remain in place and that also means that certain things won't be able to operate as usual, such as public transport.

We've heard from the transport secretary on Saturday that, even with the full capacity of the network, it will only be able to accommodate about a 100th of passengers so that it can comply with the rule that there needs to be about two meters between two people.

And, of course, with those people who have hope that the prime minister's announcement means they can finally go for that drink or a meal in a restaurant, they will be bitterly disappointed, because reopening bars and restaurants is not likely to feature on the agenda anytime soon.

HOLMES: It will be interesting to see how they handle that on the tube. Appreciate that.

Let's hear from a scientific expert now. Professor Keith Neal has spent more than two decades researching infectious diseases at University of Nottingham, now live. Here in the U.S. you have a lot of concern about states reopening while case numbers are still going up.

I mean, what are your concerns in the U.K.?

What are you hoping to see when the prime minister unveils these plans?

KEITH NEAL, UNIVERSITY OF NOTTINGHAM: I think your previous correspondent from London covered everything that we really know. Although it seemed to be leaked that we will escape a bit more, clearly it's being reined back.

I'm not sure, given how our politics work, how it was that lockdown was going to be released because it never was going to be. I think there's an increasing realization that outside activities are pretty low risk, if at all risky.

And I'm concerned that we've stopped people sunbathing in the park two meters apart. When you're breathing out, any germs you're breathing out hit the ground in a few centimeters. So I think we need more clarity. We may get that at 7 o'clock this evening.

HOLMES: What are the risks of a botched reopening, moves made perhaps in haste, more in line with political motives than scientific reality?

NEAL: I think the bigger issue is anybody can tell you what's going to happen is probably not, is having, is really not telling the truth. At the moment, we're relying on modeling and that requires on the quality of the data going on. And that's generally the best we've got.

The models we had in the U.K. were based on swine flu and it was able to track the epidemic effectively. And essentially, we know the parameters for swine flu and for COVID-19. And the model could easily be adjusted. So it's quite easy to work out that we're going to have a big crisis if we didn't do anything.

The difficulty now comes as we don't know how to model which bits of the lockdown have been successful. There was work published from looking at 30 different countries going into lockdowns this week, looking at what was probably the most effective strategies.

And essentially, it was largely thought, store closures were a bit difficult to assess, mainly not so much because of the stores but more people going back to work. And mass gatherings were a complete no-no.

But I think in states where you're lifting regimes with upgoing cases, until you get on top of this.

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NEAL: I think that's a very dangerous strategy. I think somebody quoted the Rhode Island state, where cases are coming down, where a measure of relaxation is more sensible.

HOLMES: The thing is, however you do the reopening, we're not going to know immediately the fallout, are we?

We're going to be continually looking, as we always have, at lagging data. Today we're seeing the result of behaviors of two to three weeks ago.

NEAL: We are. I think a lot of the media concentrate on deaths. And that really is like trying to wage a war with your military intelligence based on what was happening a month ago, slightly shorter.

The number of new cases diagnosed and the number of people being admitted to hospital is telling you what happened one to two weeks ago, which is a much better measure.

So assuming people are getting admitted for the same reasons, and there should be no reason a developed country which hasn't got overloaded, that should probably stay the same.

HOLMES: I want to ask you, because here in the U.S., we've essentially got a cluster, if you like, of cases linked to the White House. I mean the vice president's press secretary, a valet close to the president, Secret Service agents and so on. And now you've got the heads of the CDC, the FDA, Dr. Fauci all quarantining in some form.

You have the president still downplaying widespread testing even though those new cases in the White House wouldn't have been caught without testing.

What is your feeling on downplaying?

And how important broad testing is toward a successful reopening?

NEAL: I think the more information you have about the epidemics, it's actually crucial, because it's actually what tests you do and what you do with them. I think going back to your cluster of cases, among experts, we had a similar thing among our politicians and advisers at the early stage of the epidemic.

And it reflects the close working arrangements before we went to more teleconferencing. I think this no testing is crucially important. And testing people with symptoms so you can contract trace them and isolate and therefore try to break chains of transmission.

Because we are increasingly realizing people are asymptomatic. If A gets tested and tests positive they have quite possibly infected B and that way you can bring the outbreak under control.

There are other aspects of testing. One good study was done in a New York hospital that, for good reasons, screened all the pregnant women coming in. In that way you get an idea of how much there is in the community at the same time as being able to practice quality infection control.

And they showed about 16 percent, about a month ago, of pregnant women coming into that particular hospital, because, doing it for admissions, they could be coming in for COVID-19 reasons. HOLMES: It is fascinating. As you say, when they say, the president

says we don't need much more testing or widespread testing. It's so well-put that, you know, if you isolate B, he's not going to give it to C. That's exactly right. Got to leave it there, Professor Keith Neal. Thank you so much.

NEAL: Thank you very much. Goodbye.

HOLMES: The second largest city in Ecuador has gone through a horrific time with COVID-19. Its cemeteries are proof of that. But one young man can't bury his deceased father. The harrowing reason why when we come back.

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HOLMES: Welcome back.

Coronavirus cases continue a steady climb in some South and Latin American countries. Of the more than 4 million cases worldwide, the region has well over 100,000. But the numbers are growing.

Peru has the second highest number of cases in Latin America, nearly 46,000. Mexico has well over 30,000 now. But it is Brazil by far being hit the hardest and the fastest, with steep spikes in new infections every day.

You can see from that graph there.

Wuhan, Madrid, New York, Guayaquil: it may not be a household name but Ecuador's second largest city has lived through one of the most horrific local outbreaks of the coronavirus anywhere in the world. The CNN analysis shows the death toll there could be 17 times higher than official data suggests.

That staggering death toll has ravaged the city, roughly the size of Chicago. Matt Rivers speaks to one young man who tells us how he lost his father to the disease and then the morgue lost his remains. Now a strong warning to our video viewers, it is graphic, difficult to watch but we choose to air it because it's a stark reality of what is happening in that part of the world. Here is our story.

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MATT RIVERS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): These are bodies, piled in open shipping containers outside a hospital in Guayaquil, Ecuador, the country's second largest city.

The person who shot this video shared it with CNN and if just watching the video is difficult, imagine going through those containers in person, looking for your dad's body. That's what Arturo Ramos says he had to do.

ARTURO RAMOS, BEREAVED SON: One on top of each other, one crossing each other. It is really devastating.

RIVERS (voice-over): On March 31st, his dad, Flavio, could not breathe. After being turned away at 10 different hospitals because they were full, Ramos says that his dad was finally admitted at the 11th. Flavio was placed in a wheelchair like this one and taken to a room with no bed. There were two dead bodies already inside.

RAMOS: It was like the worst. It was like the worst. There was a lot of people dying and no one was taking care of them.

RIVERS (voice-over): Flavio died the next day. On his death certificate it says he died of acute respiratory failure, likely due to COVID-19.

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RIVERS (voice-over): But like so many others in Guayaquil, Flavio was never tested because the health care system has all but collapsed. The hospital would not comment on his case. But CNN has spoken to multiple doctors, who say that in March and April, hospitals citywide buckled under the weight of the pandemic.

Their facilities were overwhelmed almost immediately after the outbreak began, doomed by a lack of staff and supplies. The 3 doctors we spoke to suggested that dozens of patients simply died in their cars outside of hospitals, waiting for treatment.

In this video, obtained by CNN, a man dead in his car was pulled out and laid in a hospital parking lot by his family, the group simply unsure what to do next. The federal government has apologized for its pandemic response and, stating the obvious, said they were not ready for an outbreak with a staggering death toll.

In March and April combined, 2018-2019, an average 2,799 people died in Guayaquil. Experts say that's about what you would expect. But this year, that number spiked to at least 12,350. Of those, the government confirmed just 533 were due to COVID-19.

So what explains the fact that thousands more died over the same 2 month period this year?

RIVERS: There is no doubt that the additional thousands and thousands of deaths are COVID related.

DR. ESTEBAN ORTIZ-PRADO, EPIDEMIOLOGIST: Totally. For me, they are COVID unless proven otherwise.

RIVERS (voice-over): Three epidemiologists told CNN Guayaquil's actual COVID-19 related death toll could be higher than 9,000. The government has acknowledged the virus death toll is far higher than what they officially report but they say its lack of ability to test more means that we will never know the exact figure. When Arturo Ramos went to collect his father's remains, hospital

officials could not find them. He says that he had to search on his own both in the morgue and in these shipping containers and after 5 days of looking through hundreds of bodies, he says that he never found his dad.

RAMOS: I could not go anymore. Mentally, I was not 100 percent.

RIVERS (voice-over): The government did not respond when asked about Flavio Ramos or the shipping containers but say many families are still missing dead loved ones. Last month, the attorney general launched an investigation into the mismanagement of remains at hospital morgues.

Anyone can go to this government website and type in the deceased's name to see if there is any news. More than a month after he died, a search for his father ends in no results found.

Arturo grieves for his dad alone these days, separated from his family because last week he tested positive for the virus. The overall case number is dropping in Guayaquil. But for so many, the worst parts of this outbreak will never really end.

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RIVERS: Michael, the Ecuadorian government says they have a better handle on the outbreak at the moment. As a result, this week, they have begun to slowly ease off some of these strict quarantine measures that have been put into place.

But the people in Guayaquil that we speak to say that they do not trust the government to handle any reopening properly. They are nervous that, if it is not done right, it can be right back to where they were when things were so bad during the months of March and April -- Michael.

HOLMES: Matt, thank you, Matt Rivers there in Mexico City.

Well, tens of millions of U.S. workers have now lost their jobs. Families struggling. Many of them single family households. We'll talk to single moms about the challenges they're facing now. We'll be right back.

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HOLMES: Welcome back to our viewers here in the United States and all around the world. I'm Michael Holmes, you're watching CNN NEWSROOM.

As the U.S. grapples with almost a third of the entire world's coronavirus cases, three of the nation's top health officials are in self-quarantine. Doctors Anthony Fauci, Robert Redfield of the CDC and Stephen Hahn of the FDA apparently came into contact with someone who had tested positive for the virus.

All three are on the task force in charge of the U.S. response. President Trump appears to be shifting his focus from the health crisis to the economic crisis and we are seeing just how deep that crisis is.

Let's look to the right of your screen there, that red drop there. Friday, the government revealing more than 20 million jobs were lost in April, the worst jobs report in U.S. history. You just have a look at it there on the right of the screen. And see how it compared to the recession of 2008 in the center of that graph.

Larry Summers led President Obama's Economic Council at that time. Summers put the staggering numbers in perspective.

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LARRY SUMMERS, FORMER U.S. TREASURY SECRETARY: The loss in jobs, Wolf, is about three times the loss that we had from the top to the bottom in the great financial crisis of 2008. If we, by next winter, have taken back two-thirds of what was lost this month, we will still be at the low from the financial crisis.

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HOLMES: Just think about that. The numbers can be overwhelming, really, but it is important to remember they represent real people, of course, individuals bearing the full weight of this economic crisis.

The pressure is magnified for those with families to support, of course, and this is especially true if they go it alone. Here's Vanessa Yurkevich.

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VANESSA YURKEVICH, CNN BUSINESS AND POLITICS CORRESPONDENT (voice- over): More than 30 million Americans are struggling right now to keep their families afloat. Single parents struggle along.

CHANDI BOZEMAN, SINGLE PARENT: I don't want to fail at not being able to take care of myself and my son.

YURKEVICH (voice-over): A quarter of U.S. children live with a single parent, more than three times the global average. Chandi Bozeman is one of those parents. She filed for unemployment for the first time after closing her salon in Dayton, Ohio in March. She was denied. Even as a teen mom, Bozeman said she never asked for help.

C. BOZEMAN: I've never filed for unemployment.

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C. BOZEMAN: And the minute that I do, the minute that I need the help, it's not there for me. YURKEVICH (voice-over): Katrina Harvey knows what it's like to make tough choices. When she was homeless in 2015, she sent her then-11- year-old son Carson to live with relatives.

KATRINA HARVEY, SINGLE PARENT: It was absolutely the hardest thing I've ever had to go through.

YURKEVICH (voice-over): But in January, after years of saving, Harvey rented a new apartment in Orlando.

HARVEY: I can finally start putting money away and get ahead and, you know, this happened.

YURKEVICH (voice-over): Harvey was furloughed from her restaurant job in March and filed for unemployment. She received her first check last month. The money helps, but the fear of returning to her past never goes away.

HARVEY: I didn't want it to affect my son, you know? Because he went through all of those same struggles I did, you know? And so for him to be put back in a place where he feels uncertain, you know, then that can be really hard for him to deal with.

YURKEVICH (voice-over): In Texas, Kim Willis is running a full household. She's taken in her twin daughters, back from college and her 79-year-old mother who suffers from early dementia.

YURKEVICH: Is that tough?

KIM WILLIS, SINGLE PARENT: It is tough. But I'm the daughter for the job.

YURKEVICH (voice-over): But she was furloughed from her hotel job in March. It took 300 calls to unemployment, day and night, to get approved. Willis got her first check on April 17th.

WILLIS: I've been carrying the weight of being a single parent with my family. And so my logic was, OK, well, it looks like the government is the backbone to this family. So I need to get through.

YURKEVICH (voice-over): Living quarters are also tight at the Bozemans'. Chandi and Jamel are sharing a 1-bedroom, taking turns sleeping on the couch.

JAMEL BOZEMAN, CHANDI BOZEMAN'S SON: As long as My mother's OK and she's operating fine, I can adapt to anything. I'll sleep on the floor if I've got to.

YURKEVICH (voice-over): Jamel also applied to a grocery job to try to help his mom, but Chandi doesn't want him to take on that responsibility.

C. BOZEMAN: I'm not allowing him to work because I don't want my son subjected to the virus. He wants to help take care of me and I won't allow him because it's my duty as his parent to protect him.

YURKEVICH (voice-over): Vanessa Yurkevich, CNN, New York.

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HOLMES: Spain is a day away from ending its strict lockdown. More than half of the country's population on Monday will enter phase one of its deescalation plan. The prime minister Pedro Sanchez is touting progress made so far but urging people to remain cautious.

I'm joined now from Madrid by journalist Al Goodman.

What will phase one look like for most Spaniards?

AL GOODMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Michael, those territories where the people live who are going to phase one have better health indicators, according to the Spanish government, a lower infection rate right now, a better capacity at hospitals to respond to a second wave.

So the people in Guadalajara City, about 40 minutes from where I'm standing in the Spanish capital, they will be on phase one, which means they will be able to go to an outdoor restaurant that would have tables for the first time in all of this crisis. They could sit out there with 10 people who they don't live with. That's also a new thing.

With family members or friends, they could sit out there and have a coffee or a beer. Now that's not the case in the two largest cities, right here in Madrid and Barcelona, which was so hard hit by this coronavirus. They remain on phase zero, this preliminary phase.

Adults that you see are able to go out and exercise for a limited amount of time in the morning or evening. And older people get to go out at other times of the day. But they can't go to an outdoor cafe. Restaurants remain closed except tor for take-out food.

It's getting close to summer and tourism is a big thing in this country. People are looking ahead. The German airline Lufthansa announced it will resume flights to many locations in Europe, including Mallorca in the Mediterranean Sea.

The Spanish prime minister asked about that at a press conference, said his government is working with other European governments about reopening borders but it has to be done cautiously.

Let me give you a quick idea of what the new normal might look like on Spanish beaches. There are two Spanish towns that I talked to, that both plan to partition beaches into a grid pattern with little squares of places where you can put your towels.

And they will -- in one place, you'll have to make an advance reservation with your phone app to get one of those places. You can book it like you can book seats at a movie theater. When you get there, there will be somebody to usher you to your parcel.

These will all be social distance. A lot of creative ideas on how to get tourism started. It's not going to look like normal, though, Michael.

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HOLMES: That's going to be weird, isn't it?

Al, thank you. Al Goodman there in Madrid.

Every year, Russia spares no expense for its celebration of victory in 1945 over the Nazis as part of the former Soviet Union. To this day, Russians call the Second World War, quote, "the great patriotic war." With almost 200,000 coronavirus cases, the anniversary celebrations on Saturday were conspicuously scaled back. Matthew Chance reports.

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MATTHEW CHANCE, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, traditionally, it is one of the most important ceremonial days in Russia, with a giant annual military parade aimed at boosting national pride and showcasing Russia's latest weaponry.

But this year, Victory Day commemorations to mark the end of the Second World War have been significantly slimmed down. Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, presiding over a military flypast in the capital, involving helicopters, Soviet era aircraft and some of the latest-generation stealth fighters.

But it's still a far cry from the dramatic display of military power that we've seen in previous years and that had been planned this year before the pandemic struck.

A somber Putin then went on to lay flowers at the eternal flame war memorial near the Kremlin and as a socially distanced guard of honor stood in silence. Latest official figures show the number of Russian coronavirus infections was nearly 11,000 in 24 hours, bringing to 200,000 the total number of cases across the country.

The Moscow mayor says the actual number of infections is close to 300,000 in the capital alone. Wartime figures indeed.

Well, not all former Soviet states changed their Victory Day plans. In Belarus, just next door to Russia, a full-sized military parade went ahead as usual. The country's autocratic leader, Alexander Lukashenko, has repeatedly dismissed concerns about coronavirus, saying things like a hot steam bath and some vodka can keep people virus free and has also refused to impose distancing measures.

And, as a result, thousands gathered in the capital, Minsk, to attend a military parade, which involved seating for 11,000 people to watch 3,000 military personnel march past in close formation. It was highly choreographed, of course. But amid the global coronavirus pandemic, it all seems strangely out of step -- Matthew Chance, CNN, London.

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HOLMES: We'll take a quick break. When we come back, new developments in the fatal shorting of a Georgia jogger. We asked the attorney of the man who captured video of the shooting,

could there be even more footage on his client's phone?

The surprising answer coming up next.

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KEVIN GOUGH, BRYAN'S ATTORNEY: Mr. Bryan videotaped what was going on and, because he did that, there is a prosecution, OK. If he had not videotaped that incident, the only person who really could speak to what happened is dead and will never have that opportunity. So that video is the prosecution.

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HOLMES: That was Kevin Gough there, the attorney for William "Roddie" Bryan, the man who shot the graphic video of the fatal shooting of the jogger, Ahmaud Arbery. That video is difficult to watch but it is important. Take a look.

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HOLMES (voice-over): Father and son, Gregory and Travis McMichael, were arrested Thursday and charged with murder and aggravated assault.

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HOLMES: The Georgia Bureau of Investigation says the amateur footage is a very important piece of evidence but there's even more video. CNN's Martin Savidge with the details.

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MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Ever since the horrific video was released on Tuesday that showed the death of Ahmaud Arbery, there have been questions about whether there could be additional video.

And the Georgia Bureau of Investigation released a statement today on the very subject saying, quote, "We are indeed reviewing additional video footage and photographs as part of the active case. It's important to note that this footage was reviewed at the beginning of the GBI investigation and before the arrest of Gregory and Travis McMichael."

In other words, it's not new video but it's video that had been in the case file that they continued to analyze further. They're also asking for any additional information the public may have and that they come forward and tell them.

That got us thinking about Bill Bryan or William Bryan. He is the man who took the now infamous footage on that terrible day.

And one of the questions that we wanted to know was, is it possible there is additional footage on his phone?

We spoke to his attorney and I was surprised to find out that authorities hadn't confiscated his phone. He was still in possession of it and the attorney wasn't quite sure if there might be more to be revealed from it.

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SAVIDGE: The video that now everyone has seen.

GOUGH: Yes.

SAVIDGE: Is that the video entirely?

GOUGH: I'm still looking into the authenticity of the video and the details surrounding it. And when I have more I'll be glad to share that. Mr. Bryan, ironically, until he hired a lawyer, never occurred to him that he was anything other than a witness. And, frankly, if you had asked him on Wednesday, he would have let you have his phone.

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SAVIDGE: The attorney for Mr. Bryan denies emphatically that his client in any way participated in the chase or the death of Ahmaud Arbery.

Also today there was a huge demonstration, the second, actually, in a row of days. The one on Friday was more out of frustration, when people were still angry about how this case has evolved

But the one today was much more a celebration of Ahmaud's life. There were families there, there were people from all backgrounds and there was barbecue and music. So it was more just a recognition of a life that was lost and acceptance of a case that has now begun -- Martin Savidge, CNN, Glynn County, Georgia.

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HOLMES: We'll take a short break. We'll be right back.

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HOLMES: Well, the coronavirus has kept many of us indoors, of course, leaving the animal kingdom to thrive. And while wildfire tourism in South Africa is shut down, the demand for virtual safaris is skyrocketing. CNN's David McKenzie with an exclusive report.

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DAVID MCKENZIE, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): In South Africa, the elephants at least are free to roam.

TRISHALA NAIDU, GUIDE, WILDEARTH: It's just beautiful, the light is just stunning.

MCKENZIE: But its conservation tourism industry is under lockdown. Which means, Maude and her cameraman are some of the last people left in Sabi Sands.

They broadcast animal sightings twice a day for free --

NAIDU: The trunk seems to be stuck on its tusk.

MCKENZIE: -- that people would normally pay thousands of dollars to see in person. It's live --

NAIDU: You still have this feeling like, you know, I can do it. I can do it. Oh -- oh, oh.

MCKENZIE: -- and unscripted.

(on camera): What do you see over there?

NAIDU: Do you see wild dogs?

I had a dog feeling today.

MCKENZIE: So, there's a pack of wild dogs that just come in the middle of our interview through this small dam. And this is incredible to see. I mean, my entire life of coming to the bush, I've never seen wild dogs like this.

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NAIDU: You beautiful puppies. Just gorgeous.

I'm going to give them a bit of space.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thirty seconds.

MCKENZIE (voice-over): WildEarth was around long before the pandemic, but now it's viewership of safari life has shot up fivefold.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Jonathan, age 6 in the USA.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So, birds (inaudible) --

GRAHAM WALLINGTON, CEO, WILDEARTH TV: Our viewers around the world to be able to be here with us during this experience is --

MCKENZIE: Graham Wallington never imagined his company success could signal a collapse of the industry. Across Africa, nearly eight million tourism jobs are now at risk.

WALLINGTON: That's what we have to figure out now. We would figure out how we can build private safari experiences. How we can create online experiences that can give revenue, you know, down here to the people keeps us -- keep this whole conservation engine running.

JAPIE VAN NIEKERK, OWNER, CHEETAH PLAINS: We need people to sustain this nature and to sustain this business.

MCKENZIE: Owners here know, it's not as easy as locking their front doors and coming back when the pandemic is over.

NIEKERK: Tourism keeps the rhinos alive, keeps the elephants alive, keeps the lions alive, the leopards. Tourism pays for that. No one else will.

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NAIDU: Look at this. We have managed to come right with our kitty cats.

MCKENZIE (on camera): Someone is stuck in their apartment in Italy or in New York, what does this mean do you think for them?

JAMES HENDRY, GUIDE, WILDEARTH: I hope that it means some kind of healing. The whole of our species has been infected or affected by one thing. And there is a tremendous feeling of solidarity.

Nature is just doing its thing. Nature just carries on.

MCKENZIE (voice-over): But for this iconic reserve to survive, they desperately need to adapt -- David McKenzie, CNN, Sabi Sands, South Africa.

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HOLMES: Thank for being with us. I'm Michael Holmes. don't go anywhere, CNN NEWSROOM continues with the one and only Natalie Allen in just a moment.