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Division Among Races in the U.K. is Extraordinary; Systemic Racism Palpable Around the Globe; Stock Markets Fears Second Wave of Coronavirus; Attendees Count Did Not Please President Trump; John Bolton's Book Finally Released; WHO Reports Record High COVID infections; China's Overall Coronavirus Cases Drops. Aired 3-4a ET
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ROSEMARY CHURCH, CNN ANCHOR: Hello, and welcome to our viewers joining us here in the United States and all around the world, you are watching CNN Newsroom. And I'm rosemary church.
Just ahead, the Trump administration is already preparing for a second coronavirus wave as the president holds indoor rallies and cases spike across the U.S. Mr. Trump's former national security adviser says the president is unfit for office, naive, and dangerous.
As the United States grapples with racism CNN is shining a light on the racial divide in the United Kingdom.
Good to have you with us.
Well, after a lackluster turn out to those rally this weekend an adviser to U.S. President Donald Trump says the president is very upset about the disappointing crowd size. Local officials say a little more than 6,000 people showed up Saturday in Tulsa, Oklahoma to hear Mr. Trump speak, that is far below the expectations of the Trump campaign, which had been claiming there was massive demand for the rally in the days leading up to it.
The president was reportedly fuming after six campaign staffers in Tulsa tested positive for the coronavirus as the rally got underway. Mr. Trump is planning for more rallies, this time in Arizona, even as cases of the coronavirus surge in parts of the country.
Take a look. Nearly half of the country, 23 states, have reported an increase in new cases in the past week compared to the previous week.
Martin Savidge explains one reason the turnout for the rally might have been so low.
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MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The president's rally in Oklahoma was build a celebration, but it was clear, the coronavirus cast a shadow over it. And one of the reasons is that it may have impacted the number of people who attended his rally.
It goes like this. Almost every week in this particular county they have set new records for 24-hour transmission numbers as far as the increase of coronavirus. Health officials have been warning that with that kind of spike it was irresponsible, and even dangerous, potentially, for so many people to show for a rally inside of a closed arena.
It's possible that because of that message many people decided for safety reasons they might stay home. The other concern though, is the issue of just how many people did show up. The fire marshal is saying that inside the facility which is capable of holding over 19, 000, there is only 6,200 people in the building.
The Trump campaign is pushing back saying that they believe there was at least double that number that attended the president's event. The difference is that the fire marshal is counting people inside of the building the campaign says they were counting how many people went through the magnetometers, the security gates. Does it account for the discrepancy? That's a significant difference, but there's always been a problem with this administration and numbers.
Lastly, some city officials say it's possible that the projections that the campaign made as to the number of people could have actually scare people off. They say there were over a million people that wanted tickets online, but 100,000 people were going to show up and of course 20,000 would be crammed inside of the building.
It is suggested by some here that those kinds of numbers people aren't accustomed to, and they felt that with that larger crowd there could be problems, and that many decided to stay home and simply watch it on TV.
Martin Savidge, CNN, Tulsa.
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CHURCH: Well, the number of coronavirus cases in the U.S. State of Arizona has nearly doubled in the past two weeks and that is where the president is planning to hold another rally.
Ryan nobles has our report.
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RYAN NOBLES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: After that disappointing showing at his rally in Tulsa over the weekend, President Trump is turning his focus west, he's going to come here to Arizona on Tuesday. He's got two big events planned on that day. First, he's going to head to the southern border and talk about the wall that he has worked on over the course of his administration and the progress it's being made there,
Then he's going to come here to Phoenix that night and speak to a group of young Trump supporters, students for Trump, and there is already some controversy associated with this visit. That's because here in Phoenix, the city council and the mayor have instituted a mask order that requires everyone inside a building less than six feet away from someone to wear a mask.
And the mayor of Phoenix telling CNN that she hopes that everyone that goes to that rally is wearing a mask and that includes President Trump. Now President Trump up until this point, has rarely been seen in a mask, and he's also made a point about how wearing mask is not all that important in terms of battling the coronavirus.
Now, the mayor tells CNN that she does not expect the city to cite President Trump but she hopes that he leads by example. Of course, the mask story only part of this narrative, we will also see just how enthusiastic this crowd is, and if they're able to bring in the big numbers that they were in Tulsa to this rally here in Phoenix.
We should point out it's not a campaign rally, it's put on by a third party group, but still a group with enthusiastic support for President Trump and will be an important part of his reelection message.
Ryan Nobles, CNN, Phoenix.
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CHURCH: Meantime, Peter Navarro says the White House is preparing for the possibility of a second wave of the coronavirus in a few months. It should be noted, medical and scientific experts say the U.S. is not out of the first wave of the virus and cases are rising in nearly half the country.
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PETER NAVARRO, WHITE HOUSE TRADE ADVISER: We are feeling the stockpile in anticipation of a possible problem in the fall, we are doing everything we can beneath the surface working as hard as we possibly can.
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CHURCH: New York City was once the epicenter of the pandemic in the United States, now it's entering phase two of reopening. Employees will head back to in store retail, hair salons, barbershops, and offices on Monday.
Unfit, unprepared, and uninformed, right now, we are less than 24 hours away from a new explosive tell-all book from Mr. Trump's former national security adviser, John Bolton. It's hitting shelves after the White House failed to quash its release. In an interview with ABC News, Bolton gave a peep at the dire pictures it paints of life inside the West Wing.
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JOHN BOLTON, FORMER NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR OF THE UNITED STATES: I don't think he is fit for office. I don't think he has the confidence to carry out the job. There really isn't any guiding principle that I was able to discern other than what's good for Donald Trump's reelection.
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CHURCH: Well, CNN's Vivian Salama takes us through more of Bolton's claims.
VIVIAN SALAMA, CNN U.S. SECURITY CORRESPONDENT: John Bolton has finally spoken out in his first interview since CNN obtained his book last week, telling some of the dynamics and the controversies that he witnessed firsthand when he was President Trump's national security adviser.
And some of it is elaborating on what we saw in the book in terms of his personal relationships with certain world leaders, in particular, world leaders that John Bolton believed we should tweet with skepticism and with a little bit of a distance like Vladimir Putin of Russia and North Korea's Kim Jong-un.
He said that the president was constantly looking to strike a deal without really any nuance to understanding the problematic history of those countries, as well as some of the issues that would come into play in any kind of negotiations
And so, he explained a number of different instances with regard to those talks. And ultimately, he said that the president didn't really read a lot of his briefings. he said, you know, the intelligence briefing should happen on a daily basis but that wasn't the case, and he really felt that the president wasn't reading much of his briefings at all.
In fact, the one thing that he said the president had an enormous interest in was the election, and he said he just wished that the president showed that kind of interest on national security matters.
Here's a look at what he said.
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BOLTON: I think he was so focused on reelection that longer-term considerations fell by the wayside. There was considerable emphasis on the photo opportunity and the press reaction to it and little or no focus on what such meetings did for the bargaining position of the United States.
MARTHA RADDATZ, CORRESPONDENT, ABC NEWS: Are you saying that all decisions the president made were driven by reelection?
DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: Thank you very much, El Paso, thank you very much.
BOLTON: I didn't see anything where that wasn't the major factor. So, a lot of people have complained that he has a short attention span and that he doesn't focus. I want to say when it comes to reelection his attention span was infinite.
(END VIDEO CLIP) SALAMA: So there you heard John Bolton talking about the president's interest in reelection issues versus national security matters, and he said that he really wished that the president would have taken more of an interest in that, focused on his intelligence briefings with regard to national and -- national security matters so that he was better prepared for different issues.
Another issue that he focused on was the family of President Trump in the White House, Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump. And he said that at one point, the president actually diverted media tension to focus on a Saudi arm's deal that he was working on, even though it was in the middle of the murder of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi two years ago.
He said that the president purposefully focuses the media attention on a Saudi arm's deal at that time despite his controversies so that he could divert media attention away from another controversy that was in the news, and that his daughter's use of her personal e-mails at the White House.
Vivian Salama, in Washington.
CHURCH: And you just heard Vivian touch on Mr. Trump's attempt to strike deals with dictators like North Korea's Kim Jong-un. John Bolton thinks that's being counterproductive and the regime is a bigger threat than ever as it keeps working on its nuclear and ballistic missile program. Take a listen.
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RADDATZ: Press mob, as you call them, comes in, as soon as they leave you say the flattery began with Kim Jong-un.
BOLTON: Well, every president has a style, but the idea that just this oleaginous layer of compliments to this brutal dictator would convince him that you could make a deal with Donald Trump I thought was both strikingly naive and dangerous.
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CHURCH: And CNN's Paula Hancocks is standing by for us this hour in Seoul, South Korea. She joins us live. So, Paula, in one of many stunning comments Bolton says the threat from North Korea is greater now since President Trump took office. What else did he reveal and how did South Korea respond to all this?
PAULA HANCOCKS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Rosemary, John Bolton was pretty dismissive of President Trump when it came to his knowledge of the Korean peninsula, calling him stunningly uninformed. Saying that he was asking questions such as, how did the peninsula become divided in the first place after the Second World War.
He also claims that he had told President Trump, he did not believe meeting with Kim Jong-un, the North Korean, leader was a good idea, but President Trump went ahead with that anyways, saying that he believed that it was an important photo opportunity for him as opposed to any substance.
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BOLTON: The threat from North Korea today is absolutely greater because while all these photo opportunities were taking place, there's absolutely no doubt that North Korea's work on both its nuclear and ballistic missile programs continue.
RADDATZ: So, on a scale of one to ten, how would you treat Trump's ability to make a deal in North Korea?
BOLTON: Well, I think it turned clearly at this point to be zero. It's not that hard to make a deal, if you're prepared to give away enough.
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HANCOCKS: Now Bolton also said that the fact that the U.S. president decided to halt the war games, as he called them, the military exercises between the U.S. and South Korea because Kim Jong-un wanted that to happen, he said that that was an act of folly.
And he also said that he was very concerned that Donald Trump was going to give away far more than he was going to achieve, saying that the summits effectively were good for Donald Trump but they were not good for the United States itself.
Now, also, South Korea comes in for some criticism, or at least the government itself with this book and with interviews of John Bolton, saying that it was President Moon and those around him who are pushing both sides, the U.S. and North Korea, potentially unrealistically to try and secure a deal.
There was a response from the national security officer -- office chief Chung Eui-yong just a little earlier today, saying that this was written by his own perspective and it does not truly reflect the facts. Rosemary?
CHURCH: All right. Many thanks to Paula Hancocks joining us live from Seoul in South Korea.
So, let's bring in Amy Pope now. She is an associate fellow with Chatham House, and she joins me now from London. Good to have you with us.
AMY POPE, ASSOCIATE FELLOW, CHATHAM HOUSE: Good morning.
CHURCH: John Bolton says the threat from North Korea is greater now since President Trump took office and he called Mr. Trump naive and dangerous. What's your reaction to all of his comments in relation to this?
POPE: Well, he is really stating something that many in the national security community have suspected for some time. When we saw the president's interactions with North Korea some time ago it was clear that he didn't really have a strategy. He did not have a team in place that was negotiating and looking for meaningful places to make exchanges that would benefit the United States.
And it was really, it appeared to be about showmanship versus substance. And so, John Bolton is really just confirming that what everyone suspected all along is in fact true.
CHURCH: And back on U.S. soil, Trump supporters and advisers going on the defensive after his Tulsa rally attracted considerably fewer people than expected, only about 6,200.
The White House blames protesters and of course the media for the reduced numbers. How damaging is this for the Trump campaign, along with the optics, of course, of a president willing to bring thousands of people together for his own political gain in the midst of a pandemic?
POPE: Well, I think we all know that it is certainly needling the president. He cares much about the size of the crowds, he cares very much about demonstrating that he is extremely popular, and so this is really going to needle him more than really anybody.
But I think what's more troubling is the fact that we're still in the middle of a pandemic, there are cases rising in states all across the United States. There is no sign actually that it's -- that the country has the pandemic under control. And so, the image of a president putting his constituents at risk, inviting them out, and possibly increasing the likelihood that they'll come into contact with the virus.
That was more troubling from a policy point of view, and I think he all -- he risks paying a very big price for that in a few weeks from now, especially if people turned out to have been infected during this particular rally.
CHURCH: Right. And of course, it's worth noting that he heads off to Arizona next, and there are already problems there with increased cases. And we will watch very carefully to see what happens there.
But also, the U.S. attorney in Manhattan, Geoffrey Berman who has pursued President Trump and his allies was forced out of his position in recent days by Attorney General Bill Barr, Barr did not provide justification for pushing Berman out. Did Barr's actions undermine the rule of law?
POPE: Well, look, the president has authority over who serves in these positions, they serve at the pleasure of the president and so there is no question that he had the legal authorization to do this, and Barr is his primary, you know, the first in line when it comes to the Justice Department had the legal authority to do it.
But it really comes down to what it looks like how constituents will perceive this. Geoffrey Berman is another Republican that the president is turning against and it appears that the president turns against anyone regardless of where they stand on the political spectrum. If they call into question anything he does.
And of course, the U.S. attorney had several open investigations into Trump affiliates and to some of the Trump practices. So that really makes it look like this is about protecting the president's own interest versus protecting the party.
CHURCH: So, what impact do you think the pandemic, high employment, racial inequality, all of these other distractions that we're seeing, as well all these side bars, we're looking into what happened to Geoffrey Berman. All of this in this country what will be the impact do you -- impact do you think on the upcoming election?
POPE: Well, I think we should expect that the president's base is going to stay with them throughout all of this they've demonstrated that they're really not fazed by anything that he is doing.
On the other hand, sort of in the middle of the country, the middle of the road voted for voters, people who are not specifically tide to one party or the other, their faith in the president and his leadership must eroded considerably. And then the real question is what's happening with more traditional Republicans.
We're seeing the president attracts some of the party stalwarts. Someone like John Bolton who was, you know, very, very strong affiliated with Republican hawks. That has to have some real damage.
Now whether that means those Republicans would actually vote for Biden, it's not clear, but they're certainly not going to be enthusiastically raising money for Trump and getting out there and urging people to vote for him. And in fact, in some cases, they are urging them to vote against him.
CHURCH: Interesting. Amy Pope, thank you so much for joining us. We appreciate it.
POPE: Thank you.
CHURCH: And you are watching CNN Newsroom. Still to come, the World health Organization is reporting a record number of new COVID-19 cases in a 24-hour period. And the majority of it is coming from one place. We will tell you where that is. That's next.
CHURCH: We are nearing nine million coronavirus cases worldwide. As the World Health Organization reports more than 180,000 new cases on Sunday, a record number from the organization in the 24-hour period.
And of the six global regions the Americas has accounted for the vast majority of cases, almost 120,000 reported on Sunday. Nearly half of that total came from Brazil with close to 55,000 new cases reported in just a single day. Victims are sometimes buried in mass graves like this one in Brazil.
Well, more than 50,000 people have died of the coronavirus in Brazil, almost 7,300 in the past week alone. The number of cases is still rising. And according to johns Hopkins University, Brazil is the second country worldwide to surpass one million confirmed cases following the U.S.
China is still reporting new COVID-19 cases from a fresh outbreak linked to a food market in Beijing but the overall number of new infections in the Chinese capital has dropped.
CNN's Steven Jiang joins us now from Beijing. Good to see you, Steven. So, what's the latest on this.
STEVEN JIANG, CNN SENIOR PRODUCER: Well, Rosemary, they are expanding testing capacity in the city, one million per day. The last time we saw this kind of number was in Wuhan, the original epicenter, and they actually test that city's 11 million residents in about 10 days after a new cluster of cases following its reopening.
Now here in the Chinese capital with that increase the testing capacity, they have already tested some 2.3 million people and now their focus is on people from key industries, we're talking about the service sector, food and beverage, but also all of the city's package and food delivery people. We are talking about hundreds of thousands of people in this line of work.
But when you look at the broader picture, though, they have reported some 230 cases in the past 10 or 11 days, but this is a city of 20 plus million residents, so it's still a very tiny fraction of people, that's how seriously they're taking this.
And now this latest outbreak has started affecting businesses including multinational companies like Pepsi. They reported eight cases in one of the factories making potato chips in Beijing, forcing them to shut it down. Although they come out to emphasize that none of its bottling plants has been affected, so it's still safe to drink their sodas and beverages.
And experts here have also said the chances of getting the virus by eating potato chips made in that closed plant are also very slim. But, Rosemary, it's going to be interesting to see if Chinese consumers are going to become hesitant eating their junk food because of this reason. Rosemary?
CHURCH: Yes. It just emphasizes the challenge we're all facing with coronavirus. Steven Jiang, many thanks to you for bringing us to date on the situation in China. I appreciate it.
Well, coronavirus infections in Germany are rising again. On Sunday, officials reported a 60 percent spike in the virus reproduction rate in just one day. The rate now stands at 2.8.8, which means that out of 100 people who contract the virus a further 288 people will get infected. Authorities linked this leap to a massive outbreak at a meat
processing plant in western Germany, more than 1,000 cases have been confirmed there.
Still to come, an exclusive CNN poll reveals stark division among racial lines in the U.K. Those numbers, next.
ROSEMARY CHURCH, CNN ANCHOR: A family in Atlanta is preparing to lay their loved on to rest. A little over a week ago an Atlanta police officer shot and killed, Rayshard Brooks. His funeral is set for Thursday. Brooks' death is the latest in a string of deadly encounters involving black man and the police.
Last month George Floyd died after a Minneapolis police officer kneeled on his neck for nearly nine minutes. It set off the kind of nationwide unrest not seen since the civil rights era.
There have been weeks of protests from coast to coast with people of all races demanding justice for African-Americans. And cities around the country showing support for the black lives matter movement.
In the U.K. extensive polling conducted by CNN in England, Scotland, and Wales on the issue of racism has uncovered divisions between black and white people in their experience and attitudes towards race. The poll found that black people are twice as likely as white people to say there is discrimination in British policing, media, and politics.
In this example, twice as many say they have experienced disrespect from police, and think the country has not done enough to address racial injustice. Two-thirds of black respondents said so. Fifty-eight percent of black people believe the governing conservative party is institutionally racist.
The poll also sees a split between black and white respondents over the issues of statues and monuments to public figures, associated with slave trade and the British empire. Two-thirds of black respondents saying they were offended by the statues compared to one-third of white people polled.
Well, today is Windrush day in the U.K., named after the empire Windrush Liner that in 1948 brought thousands of Caribbean families who answered the British government's call to come and help rebuild a country ravaged by the Second World War.
And CNN's international correspondent Nima Elbagir is live at the Windrush Square in Brixton, she joins us now. Good to see you, Nima. So, this CNN poll reveals a deep racial divide in the United Kingdom. Talk to us about how about the problem is and what needs to be done about it.
NIMA ELBAGIR, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: The findings are incredibly stark, Rosemary, in some instances as you said, it was almost twice as likely in terms of the differences of the experience of racism with regards to racism, with regards even to the potential for success that black people saw for themselves in their home country.
In fact, black respondents were three times is likely to believe that being black had a fundamental impact on their ability to succeed professionally. White people in that instance believed that only a quarter of them saw that that impacted black people's abilities to move forward professionally.
So, this is not just about a nation divided, this is about how many black respondents clearly are not heard by many of those white respondents, are not believed by many of those white respondents. And this is going out on Windrush day, a day in which the U.K. celebrates those migrants who answered the call to come and help rebuild the United Kingdom, post the Second World War.
Many of these respondents are the descendants, the children, the grandchildren of the migrants who invited to come to the United Kingdom, and yet, still, all these decades later, Rosemary, they do not feel at home in this their home country.
CHURCH: Is there any sense that something is being done about it?
ELBAGIR: We have reached out to the police force, the national police chief and asked them about the black experience with policing. We've reached out to the conservative party office, the conservative or the ruling party of course here, to ask them about our black respondent's experience of what they believe to be institutional racism on the parts of the government, we've received no response from them.
And many black respondents would find that unsurprising after all this is a prime minister who used in his formal life as a journalist in a very popular publication here in the U.K. The Spectator used a colonial era racial slur to describe black people, one that we won't repeat on air.
But it all adds to the sense, Rosemary, that this is the racial reckoning that was decades in the making. People talk about the black lives matter movement coming over from the U.K.
Britain has been having its own racial reckoning but now it is part of this growing global momentum where black people are asking not just to be heard, but clearly to be believed, and these poll findings show starkly that they are not believed. Rosemary?
CHURCH: Yes, indeed. Many thanks to our Nima Elbagir in London, and Nima will be back with more next hour including more findings from that CNN poll. And the personal experiences of some black Britons that give these numbers context.
Well, to break down all these numbers for us, I'm joined now by CNN contributor Darren Lewis in London. Thank you so much, sir, for talking with us.
DARREN LEWIS, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: Thank you for having me. Good morning from here in the U.K.
CHURCH: Yes, good to have you with us. And CNN's polling reveals major racial divisions and much more than that too, in the United Kingdom including this. Black people are twice as likely as white people to say U.K. police are institutionally racist, but even among white people, just over a quarter of people believe it, 27 percent of white people, 54 percent of black people. What are those numbers reveal to you?
LEWIS: Well, they don't really reveal anything new because, as Nima has been saying, black people in the U.K. have been living with the kind of obstacles that the numbers are showing all their lives. And I love the term that she used because she's absolutely right, it's a racial reckoning. Now people are using their voices to speak out against the injustice.
I mean, look, if you look over the years you look at the person reports of 1999, which was supposed to change the face of policing in the U.K. Since then we had more black men and women die in police custody. Christopher Alder, Dailey McKenzie (Ph), Derek Bennett, Rashan Charles, George Floyd over there in the U.S.
Over here in the U.K. there is still men and women who are losing their lives at the hands of heavy-handed police. If you look at other areas of the spectrum, Rosemary, you see in media, for example, in 2001, the then director general of the BBC, a man named Greg Dyke called the corporation hideously white. Now this is our public service broadcaster in this country.
Twenty years on there are still precious few black men and women making decisions, taking decisions that affect the output of the station. If you look at the education system, Rosemary, you know, there is this 13 percent attainment gap at university between black and white people.
You look at for every 100 professors, there are just two ethnic minority women. We still do not have black history interwoven into the curriculum in U.K. education. And if you look at sport, that's a good example, Rosemary, because of the 12 biggest sports here in the U.K. we have just one black board member. That's horrific.
When you think about the number of black contributors to sport over the years in the U.K., and then of course as Nima and your other contributors have been saying through the course of your coverage, and the numbers showed up as well, if you look at the U.K. cabinet and you see the cabinet with zero black members.
So, I've just changed a range of different areas of public life in the U.K. where the inequalities are stark and are laid bare by your CNN report.
CHURCH: Right, indeed. And of course, it's not -- it's not -- I mean, you understand when you look at those numbers why a lot of white people don't understand the depth of this because they don't experience it every single bay. So, at the core of this, is it education, and does video evidence that certainly we've seen here in the United States help educate people?
Because a lot of white people here it was the curtain being drawn back and they were seeing some of these situations that they didn't necessarily know about, and they were shocked, and as a result they were getting out on the streets with their black brothers and sisters and saying enough is enough.
So, is it about education? Is it about letting the white folk and others know what is going on here? Because that --
CHURCH: -- that is half the problem, isn't it?
LEWIS: Well, the good thing, the positive thing about the global civil rights movement that we're now seeing and obviously we're showing everyone with our pictures here on CNN, is that there are black and white people together taking to the streets.
LEWIS: That video, if anything, take good out of that horrendous video in which George Floyd lost his life, it is the fact that it has awakened people to this scale of the injustice facing black people in the U.S.
And over here, black people are availing themselves of the facts. The facts that tell them that black men are several times more likely to be arrested by the police in the U.K. and twice as likely to die in police custody. They are twice as likely to be fined during the coronavirus outbreak, for example, for a coronavirus breach than white people.
A report out three years ago what it did, the wording of it was very stark. The Angelini report into deaths of police custody it said the stereotyping of young black men as dangerous, violent, and volatile, it's a long-standing trope that's ingrained in our society today. This is what black men like me deal with on a day-to-day basis, Rosemary.
CHURCH: Yes. And hopefully the awakening that you talk about across the globe will help change, this time around.
LEWIS: It will indeed.
CHURCH: Yes. We will look for that.
LEWIS: I think it will, indeed.
CHURCH: Darren Lewis, thank you so much for talking with us. We appreciate it. And we'll talk next hour.
LEWIS: Thank you.
CHURCH: Thank you.
And still to come, we take a walk around London with British writer Afua Hirsch to understand her lived experience of what she calls ground zero of racist ideology.
We're back in just a moment.
CHURCH: Welcome back, everyone. Activists are telling British leaders they must tackle the racism plaguing black people in nearly every aspect of life. As part of our initiative confronting racism, exclusive polling conducted for CNN across England, Scotland, and Wales, uncovered how stark these racial divisions are, and what is a dis-United Kingdom.
One, poll finding 64 percent of black people believed the U.K. isn't doing enough to address historical racial injustice.
And British author Afua Hirsch explains how the black experience has been shaped by centuries of deeply rooted racial inequalities and why it's time for change.
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AFUA HIRSCH, BRITISH AUTHOR: There is a real tendency in Britain to believe that racism and especially anti-black racism that originates from the history of slavery and colonialism is an American problem. We often sit in complacency and talk about how terrible things are in America.
The irony is this was a form of racism and ideology that was invented here in Britain. And for black British people we have been living at ground zero this ideology without any recognition of the ways in which it has shaped our lived experience.
HIRSCH: It's really fascinating how statues spontaneously became centers for protest during this movement. Because no one was really asking for them to be taken down as a specific to the murder of George Floyd.
But for so many of us they represent all of the unsaid and erased parts of our history. The reality is that we glorify people who are personally and institutionally complicit, even enthusiastic about the murder, the genocide, the appropriation of land, and the enslavement of black people. Many of the figures that we elevate on statues were involved in
military expeditions, people like Admiral Nelson, who is remembered for defeating the French in an incredibly important war for the British, but what's not remembered is that he personally supported the slave trade. He used his political privilege to advocate against the abolition of the slave trade.
Winston Churchill, right, you remembered for his role in enabling the allies to win the Second World War but it's not mutually exclusive to acknowledge that, and remember that he also was obsessed with racist ideas about Africans, about Indians, so much so that even is conservative Eton colleagues were concerned that his racism was clouding his judgment.
Until we can look at these statues in an honest way and have a conversation, which has not been happening, I don't think it's acceptable to leave them in these positions where they glorify in public spaces, and all the messages that sends to British people about what we stand for as the nation.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Enough is enough. This is civil rights movement 2020. Black lives matter.
HIRSCH: Black people in the U.K. are living the everyday legacy of the system of racism that was created. Many black people in Britain are the descendants of immigrants who are specifically brought to this country to do low wage labor, to live in substandard housing, their children received an inferior education. And we still see the results of that.
Black children are more much more likely to be excluded from school. Black people are more likely to live in inadequate housing, in impoverished areas. Black people are more likely to work on unfair labor terms.
This is a moment where it's time to really hone in on the black experience and to stop tiptoeing around it as this society has always done.
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CHURCH: And we will be right back.
CHURCH: Asian markets are starting off the week down, investors are mulling over a potential second coronavirus wave after the weekend saw a global surge in new cases. You see there Hong Kong's Hang Seng down .64 percent. And CNN's John Defterios joins me now live from Abu Dhabi. Good to see
you, John. So, we are seeing reemerging economic concerns on the medical front about a second wave, but at this stage it seems investors are willing to overlook them. Why is that do you think?
JOHN DEFTERIOS, CNN BUSINESS EMERGING MARKETS EDITOR: Well, you know, Rosemary, in the case right now where investors are looking at the swell here, the second wave that's coming on, and then they take their (Inaudible) and look to say there's trillion dollars has been provided in terms of liquidity that the global economy and they're trying to weigh that too. Does it hold back their recovery in 2021 because the market has six to nine months down the road.
So, if you take a look at U.S. futures, I know Asia had some turbulence in the market, but we are at our highest for the day with gains of nearly eight-tenths of 1 percent. We have the NASDAQ hovering or above 10, 000 that key level. And if this holds for the second quarter with a gain of better than 20 percent for the S&P 500, we are looking at a 20-year high for a quarter. It's extraordinary.
The all-share index worldwide for the FTSE is up 10 percent. Again, despite all the turbulence and emerging markets that's still a solid gain. So, what happens next? We have to keep an eye on Chin of course, they're still hoping to grow by 3 percent this year, its had the rate of last year but President Xi Jinping may have to stimulate the economy to get that 3 percent in the second half.
You saw the surge that we saw in India with the cases rising, that's a major emerging market. And then even a state like California, which is the g7 economy in its own, Rosemary, had a record number of cases again. So, this could hold back that recovery in the United States we already expected to contract by 6 percent this year.
Finally, we'll get an update on Wednesday from the International Monetary Fund what's their forecast, what's their crystal ball look like with the second half, and how deep is the recession worldwide. Is it 3 percent or more for the totality of 2020?
CHURCH: And John, as they open up their economies, what are governments doing to try to jump-start growth here?
DEFTERIOS: You see different cylinders fire in different parts of the world. Right? So, let's start in Europe with the U.K. because it was very slow to react to the COVID-19 challenge. So, we see over the weekend that Rishi Sunak who is the finance minister or the chancellor of the exchequer there in the U.K. is looking at exploring a cut in retail taxes or the VAT.
There is discussion about lowering the tax rates for small and medium enterprises again. And we did hear from the U.K. government that they are opening up in the second half of the year here. The start of July they are going to make it easier for small businesses to come on to the floor will they need financial support. Here in the Middle East, Saudi Arabia, the largest economy in the
region, opening up right now, which is a good clear sign after the lockdown. And even Dubai making it clear they're open to international visitors starting July 7th as Emirates and Etihad open up their destinations as well, Rosemary.
CHURCH: John Defterios, many thanks to you. I appreciate it.
Well, yogis across India strike a pose to celebrate international yoga day. The ancient practice originated in India centuries ago, but Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi says it's also useful to help ease at least one modern-day problem. Modi encouraged people all around the country to do yoga as the breathing exercises will strengthen the lungs and help fight the coronavirus. He also says, it's a way to bring people together.
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NARENDRA MODI, PRIME MINISTER OF INDIA: It does not discriminate. It goes beyond race, color, gender, trait, and nations. Anybody can embrace yoga.
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CHURCH: And it's worth pointing out, the word yoga comes from Sanskrit and means to join or unite. A rather timely message in the world today.
And thanks so much for joining me. I'm Rosemary Church. I'll be back in just a moment with more news.