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U.S. is Headed to a Wrong Direction; Moderna Giving Hope to Millions of COVID Patients; U.K. Banned Huawei from Accessing 5G Network; Disneyland Says No High-Five's for Mickey and Minnie; Hong Kong Back to Strict Measures; Hong Kong Tightens Restrictions Amid Third Wave; Trump Administration Drops Restrictions On Foreign Students; Bolsonaro's Office Refuses To Confirm Coronavirus Test; Protesters Slam Bolsonaro's Handling Of Covid-19; U.S.-Canada Border Closure Extended; Top Experts Offers Bleak Outlook For The United States; In The United Kingdom, More Cases, Deaths Likely This Winter; Dozens Arrested As Protesters Demand Netanyahu Resign; New Cases Linked To One Michigan House Party; New Clusters Linked To Gatherings In At Least Eight States; President Trump Downplays Police Violence Against Black Americans; Pakistan Battling Pilot Licensing Scandal; Deadly Crash Reveals Pilot License Scandal In Pakistan; Airplane Safety; America In Crisis, President Trump Highlights Violence In U.S. Cities. Aired 3-4a ET

Aired July 15, 2020 - 03:00   ET

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ROSEMARY CHURCH, CNN ANCHOR: Hello and welcome to our viewers joining us from all around the world. You are watching CNN Newsroom. And I'm Rosemary Church.

Just ahead, the U.S. has broken another single day record for new coronavirus cases as health officials warn we could be in for a rough winter.

The Trump administration is punishing China after it passed a national security law in Hong Kong. And after shuttering its Hong Kong park, Disneyland is reopening next hour in Paris and we will have a live report.

Two hundred twenty-four thousand that is how many people in the U.S. will die from the coronavirus by November, according to a new model, and every day COVID-19 cases just keep on rising. There were more than 67,000 new cases reported on Tuesday alone. But instead of taking preventative action, here's what the U.S. president said.

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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: And frankly, if we didn't test you wouldn't have all the headlines because we are showing cases, and we have just about the lowest mortality rate, but if we did, think of this, if we didn't do testing, instead of testing over 40 million people, if we did half the testing, we'd have half the cases. If we did another, you cut that in half. We'd have, yet again, half of that.

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CHURCH: But top U.S. infectious disease expert is telling Americans to trust medical authorities and avoid political nonsense. Here is more of what Dr. Anthony Fauci had to say.

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ANTHONY FAUCI, DIRECTOR, NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF ALLERGY AND INFECTIOUS DISEASES: Obviously, the more you test, the more you going to pick up. So increase in testing is going to give you an increase, but there is no doubt that there are more infections, and we know that because the percentage of cases of the cases that are tested that are positive is increasing. Therefore, unequivocally you are seeing, truly, more new cases.

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CHURCH: The director at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says if Americans wore masks for the next few weeks this virus transmission would stop. he also says the country's leaders must show the way.

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ROBERT REDFIELD, DIRECTOR, CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL AND PREVENTION: I'm glad to see the president wear a mask this week and the vice president. Clearly in their situation, they could easily justify that they don't need to because of all the testing around them and they know they are not infected. But we need them to set the example.

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CHURCH: But there is hope, a vaccine being developed by the biotech firm Moderna is showing promise in a phase one study. A phase three trial is planned for later this month.

Well, the U.S. has so far confirmed more than 3.4 million cases nationwide, and with the infection rate rising each day, more than half the country is now pausing or rolling back reopening plans.

Here's Erica Hill.

ERICA HILL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Across the country, reality setting in.

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PETER HOTEZ, INFECTIOUS EXPERT, BAYLOR UNIVERSITY: We should have known that this was coming and planned ahead of time, and this is the problem, there is no roadmap, no plan for the country.

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HILL: The U.S. now averaging more than 60,000 new cases a day. Twenty states starting the week with their highest seven-day average. Reopening is paused or in reverse in more than half of all states.

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MAYOR DAN GELBER (D), MIAMI BEACH, FLORIDA: People aren't respecting this virus especially younger people.

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HILL: The positivity rate in Miami-Dade County which accounts for nearly a quarter of Florida's cases is almost 30 percent. California posting new daily highs for hospitalizations and ICU admissions. The majority of those in Los Angeles County. In Harris County, Texas, home to Houston, hospitals are approaching surge capacity.

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LINA HIDALGO, JUDGE, HARRIS COUNTY, TEXAS: The longer we keep this going, pretending like these incremental restrictions are going to fix the problem, the longer it's going to take to recover.

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HILL: Officials they are urging the governor to let them bring back a stay-at-home order. Testing and a significant lag in getting those results still an issue months into the pandemic.

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GOV. RON DESANTIS (R-FL): You swab and then you get the results back in seven days, you know, that's not ideal, and particularly if your -- if you have symptoms.

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HILL: Forty percent of infected cases are asymptomatic according to the CDC, yet, the country's testing czar is encouraging some Americans to hold off.

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BRETT GIROIR, U.S. ASSISTANT SECRETARY FOR HEALTH, DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES: In places like Arizona and Texas, if you wake up in the morning you just feel like you want a test, you might not need to do that, right? We do think about those who are at high- risk or in high-risk situations.

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HILL: Schools, a flash point as the administration insists that in- person learning be the standard, but without offering a strategy. New polling from Axios and Ipsos shows most parents say it would be risky to send their kids back in the fall.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) CINDY MARTEN, SUPERINTENDENT, SAN DIEGO UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT: The countries that managed to safely reopen schools, they have done so with declining infection rates, not rising infection rates.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, I mean, but --

MARTEN: And they (technical difficulty) You have to make on demand testing available. California has neither of those.

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HILL: Best Buy announcing a nationwide mask mandate for shoppers in its stores. Walmart mulling the same, as the nation's top infectious disease expert admits early mask messaging was amiss.

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FAUCI: What got, I think a little bit misrepresented in that message was not that it was just we wanted to preserve them, but they don't really work that well anyway, so that was the mistake because in fact there was no doubt that wearing a mask is better than not having a mask for the general public.

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HILL: Another mistake? Thinking the virus would slow down in the summer.

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REDFIELD: I was really one of the individuals who thought we would get a little break in July and August.

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HILL: The head of the CDC admitting there is still a lot to learn about the coronavirus, while offering a stark warning for what's ahead.

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REDFIELD: I do think the fall and the winter of 2020 and 2021 are going to be probably one of the most difficult times that we have experienced in American public health.

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HILL: Erica Hill, CNN, New York.

CHURCH: Dr. Shoshana Ungerleider joins me now. She is an internal medicine physician at California Pacific Medical Center. Thank you so much for being with us and for all that you do.

SHOSHANA UNGERLEIDER, INTERNAL MEDICINE PHYSICIAN: Thank you for having me.

CHURCH: I do want to start with the first published results of phase one of the human trials of the Moderna vaccine. We know it produced immune responses in all participants of evidence of antibodies being produced with no overall safety concerns identified, but more research is needed of course.

The critical question is, will this protect people from COVID-19, how encouraged are you by any of this?

UNGERLEIDER: Well, Rosemary, you are asking the big question here. So, these are phase one results where a small group of people received the trial vaccine. So, in this case, it was 45 healthy adults and they show that the vaccine work to trigger an immune response with really mild side effects.

But at this stage, we still don't know whether the levels of immunity that we are seeing from this vaccine would actually protect against the infection. This is a small step, I would say in the right direction, but if we look at history, you know, a lot of vaccines that look out of phase one, unfortunately don't turn out to be good products. So we still have a long road ahead before we have a safe effective vaccine available.

CHURCH: Yes. It's hard not to try to get excited each time we see some sort of positive move here, but of course the safety of this vaccine if it turns out to be the one that's made available will be critical, because we know that about one-third of Americans are vowing not to take any COVID-19 vaccine that's made available citing safety concerns.

How do you convince people when a vaccine is rushed to production because for this to work, the majority of any population needs to be vaccinated, doesn't it?

UNGERLEIDER: That's right, in order to reach herd immunity, you know, we would need a good proportion of the population to be willing to take it. I mean, these are extraordinary times that we're in. There are so much fear and uncertainty, you know, going forward about what the future holds.

And having a rushed vaccine, I think adds to that fear. I think what it comes down to is really straightforward consistent evidence-based public health messaging which has not been seen at all throughout this pandemic in America, but the hope is that when, if and when a vaccine is available, that we will get aligned in terms of at the federal level, from the top down this accurate concise and consistent public health messaging that will be needed in order for more people to trust this process and be vaccinated.

CHURCH: And we've also learned from a U.K. study that those antibodies from being infected don't necessarily last very long, 20 to 30 days, but in addition to that, they've also discovered that if you have asymptomatic -- if you are asymptomatic from this, then you are less likely to have antibodies for very long, but if you had severe outcomes, then you are more likely to have antibodies for a longer stretch of time. What do you make of all of that?

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UNGERLEIDER: Well, you know, I think it's still so early, I mean, we've known about this virus for just, you know, going on seven months now. We are learning so much every single day about how immunity works, how this is different from other viruses, and so it's a little too early to say exactly what that means in terms of long-term immunity.

But again, I think we're going to look back in the months to come in the years to come and have learned so much about how this all works and how we can keep people safe.

CHURCH: Yes. And of course, we are still learning as we go along, and doctor, the U.S. is averaging 60,000 COVID-19 cases a day. California setting new record for hospitalizations and ICU admissions. Florida broke its record with 142 deaths in the past 24 hours. Texas reports a new daily record of 10,745 cases. And 37 states are currently showing an increase in cases. Can this be turned around if most people wear masks or has it gone beyond that?

UNGERLEIDER: Yes, that's a great question, Rosemary. You know, this country is in a very concerning place as you mention. We have several states seeing these large increases in numbers every single day. ICU beds, I'm hearing from my colleagues filling up with very sick patients.

And all the while, you know, many people, far too many are disregarding science and sound medical advice to wear masks and distance away from others. We are absolutely without a doubt going in the wrong direction, you know, states I fear opened far too early and then haven't followed guidelines to roll back their reopening plans.

I think the one thing that we can do right now is recognize that wearing a mask, you know, paying attention to our behavior at all times, distancing away from others, avoiding crowded indoor spaces, doing everything we can to slow the spread will absolutely have an impact on things like returning to work and to school safely in the coming months. So, it's on all of us to do our part.

CHURCH: We'll end there. Doctor Ungerleider, thank you so much for talking with us.

UNGERLEIDER: Thank you so much for having me, Rosemary.

CHURCH: President Trump is taking aim at China, announcing new sanctions on businesses and individuals who helped Beijing restrict Hong Kong's autonomy. And that's at all. Hong Kong will no longer enjoy its special trade status with the U.S. The U.S. president ended that with a stroke of a pen Tuesday.

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TRUMP: Today I also signed an executive order ending U.S. preferential treatment for Hong Kong. Hong Kong will now be treated with the same as mainland China, no special privileges, no special economic treatment, and no export of sensitive technologies.

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CHURCH: And CNN's Kristie Lu Stout joins me now from Hong Kong. Kristie, after President Trump took aim at China with sanctions, and then removing Hong Kong's trade treatment, how is Beijing responding?

KRISTIE LU STOUT, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Beijing has responded strongly. It is vowing to retaliate. In fact, we heard through statement from China's ministry of foreign affairs that have plans to take necessary measures and impose sanctions on relevant U.S. personnel and entities after U.S. President Donald Trump did what he was expected to do, signed the Hong Kong Autonomy Act into law, effectively ending Hong Kong special trade status, allowing the United States to treat Hong Kong like any other Chinese city, to treat it like mainland China in regards to commerce and trade.

So, what will it mean in practical terms for Hong Kong? Well, it would jeopardize tens of billions of dollars' worth of trade between Hong Kong and the United States.

We spoke to an economist earlier this morning who told us that it would shave 10 percent off of Hong Kong's experts. It would also create major uncertainties for the 1,300 American companies who operate here in the territory that includes law firms of the United States, as well as accounting firms.

It would also dissuade many individuals and companies all around the world from investing here. Now we spoke earlier to a professor of business at the Chinese University of Hong Kong about the greater economic fallout for Hong Kong as a result of this Autonomy Act. This is what Simon Lee had to say.

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SIMON LEE, SENIOR LECTURER OF BUSINESS, CHINESE UNIVERSITY OF HONG KONG: If Hong Kong lost its privilege for a special economy under the U.S. law, and then we see that as big difference between Hong Kong and other major cities in mainland China such as Shanghai and Beijing. The foreign companies will think whether they need to maintain their existing scale of operation in Hong Kong. They may downsize the scale and some employment opportunity will be lost.

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LU STOUT: Simon Lee there saying that the signing of this Hong Kong Autonomy Act into law will hurt Hong Kong's bottom line employment prospects here, business confidence.

Analysts are also saying that it's a self-defeating move for the United States because ever since the pact were signed between the United States and Hong Kong to have the special trade status it started back in 1992, the United States have been benefited from the favorable and friendly business conditions here.

[03:15:05] In fact, it was just last year when these numbers were posted, Hong Kong was in fact the source of the largest U.S. goods trades surplus worth some $26.1 billion. Rosemary?

CHURCH: Kristie Lu Stout, many thanks, joining us live from Hong Kong. I appreciate it.

Well, a diplomatic win for the Trump administration with the U.K. banning Chinese tech giant Huawei from having access to its high-speed wireless network. Britain had said in January that Huawei equipment could be used in its 5G network on a limited basis, but reversed course on Tuesday.

And CNN's Sherisse Pham joins us now live from Hong Kong. Good to see, Sherisse. So, what's the likely impact of this decision?

SHERISSE PHAM, CNN TECH AND BUSINESS REPORTER: The likely impact is this is really going to be a very big blow to Huawei and its global ambitions. The U.K. decision to ban Huawei from its 5G network sends a signal to other countries.

The U.K. is a bit of a trendsetter when it comes to security assessments according to an analyst I talk to this morning. And the fact that the U.K. made this decision that it is now too risky to use Huawei and its 5G network, it will be a little bit of a signal to other countries like Belgium and France, and Germany to potentially follow suit, to either further restrict Huawei from their 5G networks, or to ban it altogether like the U.K. has.

Now of course, Huawei has pushed back on this decision and called it disappointing, saying that this is about U.S. trade policy and it's not about security risks. And of course, this is a big win for the Trump administration which has been, you know, launching a pressure campaign on Huawei for the better part of two years.

But all of these decisions also come with fallout not only from Huawei and not only for the rollout of 5G networks around the world, but potentially for the countries that make these decisions.

Huawei of course is a huge national champion for China, and we were seeing, we were already seeing before the decision came out in the U.K. yesterday the ministry of foreign affairs kind of hinting that banning Huawei from the 5G networks could take a -- could cause a hit to U.K.-China trade.

And today, we saw today from a state-run tabloid the Global Times, an editorial which was titled China won't passively watch the U.K.'s Huawei ban, and here's what they wrote.

It's necessary for China to retaliate against the U.K. Otherwise, wouldn't we be too easy to bully? And such retaliation should be public and painful for the United Kingdom.

So that, Rosemary, a very strong warning to other countries that might be considering following the U.K.'s lead.

CHURCH: Yes, most definitely. Sherisse Pham, joining us from Hong Kong, many thanks.

And when we come back, Mickey, Minnie, and masks. How Disney is trying to keep everyone safe as it reopens Disneyland Paris. We'll have a live report in just a moment.

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CHURCH: Look at those numbers. It looks like Wednesday could be another promising day for the Dow. At the moment, futures are pointing upwards. Investors have been void by a positive news on a potential coronavirus vaccine by Moderna and are seemingly unaffected by the Trump administration's latest spat with China.

But let's turn to the experts for more on this. John Defterios is with us now live from Abu Dhabi. Good to see you, John. And of course, a clash between the U.S. and China --

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JOHN DEFTERIOS, CNN BUSINESS EMERGING MARKETS EDITOR: Thanks, Rosemary.

CHURCH: -- would usually send world markets reeling, but Asian markets, U.S. futures we just saw seem to be taking this in stride despite President Trump's tough talk. Why is that?

DEFTERIOS: Well, let's see if I can visualize a little bit here. It's almost the weight of the scales, right? Number one, on the other side here we have the tough talk from President Trump against China and on Hong Kong because of the security law vis-a-vis, potential breakthrough by Moderna on the vaccine here.

The trials are suggesting that there are antibodies that are showing up which you would have to have a solution to have recovery in 2021. And that is the prevailing view. But let's take a look at the U.S. position on trade.

I think President Trump has come to that proverbial fork in the road right now, suggesting do I go for round two of trade talks for $200 billion or do I make China a target. He has decided for the latter, because the payback on trade is not likely to hit before the November election. So, he is making China something that he is going to focus on in the election cycle, getting support from the U.K.

So, we have them on the security law on Hong Kong, on Huawei, and now, that clash in trade and sanctions layered on. But if you look at the Asian markets so far here, we have two that are performing well, and those linked to China not performing very well.

The Bank of Japan said it will do more even though it's pessimistic about the economy if necessary. So the gain are better than 1.5 percent. Seoul is higher. These are the lows for the day, by the way, for Shanghai in the closing hour of trade. And Hong Kong edging below the line as well, but I wouldn't say it's a dramatic sell-off. I'm also watching oil today because we have an OPEC plus monitoring

committee taking place virtually but the center is at the headquarters in Vienna. They have to decide whether to put more oil back on to the market, whether we have reached the bottom in terms of the collapse and demand.

But $43 for Norsi brand, and just above $40 a barrel for the U.S. bench market. It's not terrific. So, this is a tricky decision by Saudi Arabia, Russia, and others. If they put more oil in the market that could break that stability we've seen in the market in the last month or so. Nothing more than that.

We have to remember, Rosemary, back in April, we had $16 in Norsi. It went below zero on WTI.

CHURCH: Yes.

DEFTERIOS: It seems like a couple of years ago, not a few months ago.

CHURCH: Yes. It feels that way, doesn't it? John Defterios, many thanks. I appreciate it.

Well, Disneyland Paris is reopening to the public in less than an hour and Disney will require anyone over the age of 11 to wear a mask in the park. The company has struggled to get its parks back open in the midst of this pandemic.

So, let's turn to CNN's Cyril Vanier, he joins us now live from Paris. Good to see you, Cyril. So, apart from wearing masks, what else is Disney doing to ensure visitors are safe?

CYRIL VANIER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Rosemary, one of the biggest things when you get there is that not every part of the Disney experience can come back online at this stage. Some of the most popular aspects of visiting Disneyland are just not happening. So anything that draws large static crowds, so think for instance, of the Disney character parade, that's the daily parade that goes down main street, the main avenue in Disneyland, and I have been to that, and you know, usually you have crowds that are 5 to 10 people deep watching that.

That's not happening. Because you can't social distance those crowds. Same thing with the nighttime fireworks show. Same thing with the lion king show. Anything with a static crowd that they have not figure out how to socially distance is off line.

That is that some of it will be phased back in progressively, but for the moment, it doesn't exist. There's another thing that I find well, a little bit sad because it is so iconic of the Disney experience and I'm sure you've done it, you must have taken your kids given where you are. You must have gone to Florida, but you must have taken your kids and they must have other hugged Mickey Mouse or, you know, high-five Donald Duck, because that's what you do when you are at Disney.

There is no hugging. There is no high-fiving any of the Disney characters anymore. There is no meet and greets, as they called them. What you can do is take a selfie because you can do that and stay distanced.

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Beyond that, Rosemary, it is all the health measures that have now become normal. You mentioned the face masks that are mandatory for anybody over 11. There will also be floor signage to direct the flow of people.

One big, big thing is that Disney is going to limit the number of visitors who can be in the park at any one time. And for that reason, you can no longer just walk up to the gate and get your ticket. Those days are over, at least for now. That's not COVID compatible. You have to book your ticket in advance so that Disney knows how many people are intending to come and they can regulate the crowds and the number of visitors in the park at one time.

CHURCH: The happiest place on earth. Cyril Vanier, many thanks. I appreciate it. We'll see how all of this goes. We'll keep an eye on them. I appreciate it.

All right. We'll take a break. Still to come, social distancing like never before. Hong Kong has ordered the most severe restrictions yet because of another surge in coronavirus cases. We'll take a look.

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CHURCH: Hong Kong is once again imposing social distancing measures, the most severe the city has seen since the beginning of this pandemic. Officials say they are now facing a third wave of cases, which is causing infections to spike. Gatherings will be restricted to four people or less and masks are now mandatory on public transportation.

CNN's Will Ripley joins me now live from Hong Kong. Good to see you, Will. So, once a success story in containing this virus, what went wrong for Hong Kong and what lessons have been learned here?

WILL RIPLEY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: You know, Rosemary, I think Hong Kong is experiencing what a lot of communities are that thought they had the virus contained. You lift social distancing measures and then all of a sudden, it comes back.

I've spoken with three different infectious disease experts here in Hong Kong just this morning and they say this third wave the cities experiencing right now predominately community spread is directly tied to people feeling comfortable going into bars and restaurants and taking off their masks and having the close conversations and kinds of things across the table that, you know, could potentially expose them to other people who are ill.

Abd because there are a lot of cases that are believed to be asymptomatic, they believe that there a lot of people walking around this densely populated city, you know, perhaps dozens or more of unknown cases, and these are people who could be spreading this. And that could be very dangerous because the numbers that are still, you know, in the dozens per day s could skyrocket very quickly in a place like this.

So what city leaders are trying to do is basically, you know, add even more restrictive social distancing measures than what we saw before.

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And what that means is a lot of places that had open are now closed again. Hong Kong Disneyland, one of them schools, bars are closed, the gym is closed. You can't go to entertainment centers and restaurants are closed for dinner. They can only do take away service.

So, life is kind of going back in Hong Kong to the way it was earlier in this year with this new and really experts say potentially far more serious danger of an extreme outbreak in this city because of the fact that a lot of these cases, the contact tracing isn't working. They have identified specific clusters.

But others they have no idea where people are getting sick and that is the big problem. When experts are saying that this virus has mutated and what the mutation could potentially mean is that it replicates much more efficiently and could even be more contagious. Rosemary?

CHURCH: Yes. We understand more contagious but not quite as lethal which is at least is good if it's going in that direction. But talk to us about the wearing of masks, because they are mandatory on transportation and it appears for the most part people in Hong Kong wear them on the streets as well. What are they saying about mask wearing now for those people in Hong Kong?

RIPLEY: When you walk on the streets and you can see it in the video that we show, almost everybody is wearing a mask. The only time I would take a mask off outside is if I am walking my dog late at night and there is nobody else around and it's kind of hard to breathe in that thing. Because otherwise, frankly, you know, if I stepped through my apartment building and I don't have a mask security will remind me that I need to put one on.

And it is the same when you enter into various different businesses along with the temperature check. They want people wearing masks. And for the most part, people are complying here. So that is an encouraging step. Handwashing though also equally important and what I did see that was troubling, you know, when the measures were eased, it's amazing how quickly kind of people get used to the way that things used to be. And so you see people standing very close together without masks, having conversations in a pub, for example. That's why they have closed them now.

And the same thing at restaurants. You sit down to eat with people across the table, you take off your mask obviously, but if you are shouting across the table at some one that's within the range that you could potentially get sick. So, it is really hard to imagine until there is a vaccine or some really effective treatment how we can effectively go back to normal life without seeing this happen, without seeing a spike in cases.

CHURCH: Yes. You are seeing that resistance in Hong Kong. We very much see it here in the United States. I guess until we are all wearing masks and social distancing, we are not going to get on top of this, are we? Will Ripley, joining us live from Hong Kong. We appreciate it.

Well, the Trump administration is rescinding its controversial policy barring international students who take only online courses from staying in the U.S. A number of states and universities filed lawsuits over the plan. Some major schools planned to move all courses online during the coronavirus pandemic, meaning the Trump administration's policy would have impacted many of the more than 1 million foreign students studying in the U.S.

Well, Brazil's president, Jair Bolsonaro, says he is going to get re- tested for coronavirus as he battles the infection in isolation. However, his office told CNN it will not confirm if the president has taken a new test yet or if any details regarding the test would be released. President Bolsonaro, who has downplayed the virus for months, announced he was infected last week. Protesters were out on Tuesday calling for his impeachment, criticizing the president's handling of the virus.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translator): Brazil can't take it anymore. There has been more than 70,000 deaths, more than 70,000 families crying over the deaths of people that were ignored and scorned by the genocidal person in charge of the Brazilian government.

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CHURCH: And here in the, U.S. closures on the northern and southern borders look to remain in place for at least another month, both Canada and Mexico apparently not ready to open borders with the U.S. while the pandemic is surging. CNN's Paula Newton is in the Canadian capital.

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PAULA NEWTON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Canadian officials tells CNN that the U.S. Canada border will likely remain closed until at least August 21st. More than that though, the Canadian government, public health officials say they are stepping up surveillance at those land border crossings.

Now, right now essential workers are allowed to cross, so health care workers, essential employees for businesses, truck drivers, flight crews but they want more surveillance on those borders to make sure no one is coming across with covid symptoms and that people are abiding by a very strict 14-day quarantine.

As public health officials have said here in Canada, we have managed to flatten the curve here they say, and we want to continue to monitor that situation in the United States carefully. You know, no one has more at stake in terms of the surge in U.S. cases than Canada. They have a close economic relationship and a close personal relationship with so many people going back and forth, but I think a lot of people here and polls show it that a majority of Canadians do not want to see that border reopen.

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And the words of Ontario premiere, Doug Ford, he is saying, look, I love Americans, I just don't want to see them up here right now. He characterize some of the reopenings in the United States as reckless, and Canadians are also showing basically, you know, some apprehensions about the reopenings even going on in Canada, even though there are only a few hundred new cases of covid every day in Canada, they see what's happening in the United States and do not want to have to go through a resurgence of the virus. Paula Newton, CNN, Ottawa.

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CHURCH: And still to come, anger in the streets. Why some Israelis are calling for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to resign. We are live in Jerusalem next.

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CHURCH: Here in the United States, one of the nation's top health officials is warning this autumn and winter could be one of the most difficult times for the U.S. as the coming flu season is expected to further overwhelm health systems.

In the United Kingdom, the Academy of Medical Sciences has modeled what it described as a reasonable worst-case scenario. It says the number of covid-19 related hospital deaths between September 2020 and June 2021 in the U.K. could be close to 120,000. And this projection is more than double the 45,000 deaths in the U.K. that it's experienced so far. So, the chair of that U.K. report, Doctor Stephen Holgate joins me now. He is with the University of South Hampton. Thank you so much for talking with us.

DR. STEPHEN HOLGATE, MEDICAL RESEARCH COUNCIL: Thank you.

CHURCH: And of course, this is the biggest concern most nations have, that winter will create this perfect storm, once flu infections combined with covid-19 and other illnesses. You have projected this number 120,000. That's a lot. What do you base that on and how do you think the health care system there in the U.K. will carry that burden?

HOLGATE: It was based really on looking at the additional factors over the winter that would accelerate the transmission of this virus between people. We have really have a perfect storm in some respects and that the virus obviously likes colder weather. It lives longer. People become more closed in their environments, in their homes and offices and other spaces that are less ventilated to keep down the -- to keep the temperature up.

And the other thing that is important here is that people themselves tend not to go out as much during the winter and are much closer to each other. I'm working then the same with the sort of other factors that are coming along, as you rightly mentioned, the Influenza, but also the backlog we have of all those surgical and medical problems that are accumulating in the health service that need attention. [03:40:14]

And also difficulties that we have had to create, in some respects, to cope with the covid in our hospitals such that the staff and the wards and the various other parts of the hospitals are not really fit to be able to cope with the normal NHS, National Health Service functions has led to obviously, us being a little bit pessimistic in our view.

CHURCH: Yes. Understood. And it is indeed, an incredible concern. And perhaps there have been suggestions, if there could be a push to get more people across the globe to take the flu shot that would at least remove that element of it. Here in the United States, only 45 percent of American adults actually take the flu shot. That may change this time because of covid-19. What is the situation in the U.K. when it comes to the flu shot?

HOLGATE: Well, of course, we don't have a covid-19 vaccine yet, which is unfortunate, but it's coming along, we all hope. Yes, flu is the big issue here, and our figures of vaccinations I think is fairly similar to those in the United States, about 45 percent to 50 percent. So, it really got to push hard here to get the flu vaccine to the people who most need it, those who have got conditions that predisposed them to influenza, the children, the elderly and of course the health workers, because we don't want them to get sick during a critical time when they meant to be coping with this extra resurgence.

CHURCH: Yes, because what's incredible is that a lot of these careers across the globe, certainly in the United States, are revisiting this problem of a lack of PPE which doesn't help. It is hard to understand why preparations wouldn't have been made by various governments to ensure that they have that available. But talk to us about what the U.K. and what other countries can do to prepare for what is going to be this perfect storm you referred to come fall and winter?

HOLGATE: Well, the first thing we have got to do is have a public information campaign, because we have to get the public on side here. That gone through one period of lockdown which was really difficult and it's unlikely that they will tolerate another one in the same form. And to do this, we need to get the local people and communities working with the health authorities on the ground so that there is real buy in to the next winter period. We have three or four months to do that and we have to get along doing it now.

Secondly, as you correctly point out, we got to get the vaccine now. We got to make the vaccine against influenza, which was the one we just talk about available to everybody if they need it, but in particular, and this is really important, to those that needed most of all. And we have to make sure that the access to that vaccine is easily accessible.

Thirdly, the test, trace and isolate program is the key to the success of all of this really. And in the U.K. now we are getting 100 outbreaks a week, small outbreaks which are being picked up very early so that the groups of people can be isolated and the whole thing controlled, but that has to be rolled out in a more comprehensive way across the whole of the U.K. and linked to a surveillance of the country, the normal population as well.

CHURCH: All right. Dr. Stephen Holgate, thank you so much for joining us. I appreciate it.

HOLGATE: My pleasure.

CHURCH: Well, scenes of anger in the streets of Jerusalem. This was right outside Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's residents, hundreds gathered to protest the Israeli government's handling of the coronavirus pandemic. Police arrested 50 people. Israel has seen record new case numbers this week, and the economy has been hard hit by the crisis.

So, CNN's Oren Liebermann is live this hour in Jerusalem. He joins us now. Good to see you, Oren. So, what is the latest on the protest, the arrest, and of course, how is the government responding to all of this?

OREN LIEBERMANN, CNN CORESPONDENT: Rosemary, this was primarily an anti-Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu protested, an anti-corruption protest against the Prime Minister, right outside of his house. In fact the former member of Knesset who made her name protesting said this was the biggest protest outside Balfour Street, the official Prime Ministers residents in more than a decade. And she may we'll be right.

Police estimate there were hundreds there. It may well have been more than 1,000. And you saw the anger there, fueled in part by discontent over the economic situation here as unemployment hit 21 percent this week and at least from the appearance is still climbing. We will see where that goes, but that's part of the fuel and the anger that led to these demonstrations, which were primarily an anti-corruption, anti- Netanyahu protest on Bastille Day.

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Some calling this storming the BB-stille with the protest outside the Prime Minister's residence. There was certainly some friction outside there and protesters tried to break through the barrier outside the official residence. There was some pushing and shoving between police. But as that ended, hundreds of protesters went and blocked off the main artery through Jerusalem, the light rail line. And that's when the situation escalated there.

Protesters threw tables and chairs, blocking off the street here. Police responded with water cannons sprayed at protesters to try to disperse them, as well as bringing out officers mounted on horses. Those are some of the most stunning images you saw, right along the right rail line that we are standing is a few hundred meters down the road from where we are now, Rosemary?

CHURCH: All right. We will keep a very close eye on all of this. Oren Liebermann joining us live from Jerusalem, many thanks.

Well, what do you get when you take a large gathering of young people, loud music, and partying, and a highly contagious virus? Well, in the U.S., you get a pandemic spike. One recent party in Michigan led to dozens of new cases, which then spread across state lines as CNN's Tom Foreman explains.

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TOM FOREMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The Fourth of July holiday fall out is landing hard in Michigan, where officials say a single house party in the town of Saline has exploded into at least 43 confirmed cases of covid.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It sounds like, from our investigation that there were some folks at the initial event with some mild illness and that is probably one of the reasons that we have seen it spread so quickly.

FOREMAN: Indeed, authorities say the party goers carried the virus to stores, restaurants and other businesses, a canoe rental place, camps, even connecting with athletic teams and a retirement community, triggering confirmed infections in all of those locations, some even went to other states.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The case count does continues to go up.

FOREMAN: Most of those infections hit people between the ages of 15 to 25, raising new concern about that huge lake party on the northern end of the state, where health officials say people are also turning up with covid, but Michigan is far from alone.

In state after state, the warnings are stepping up from young people who have contracted the virus.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Take this seriously, it is not a joke.

FOREMAN: And officials who worry about environments that attract the young, tired of being locked down. Parties, bars and concerts.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There's just nothing about that environment that is conducive to slowing the spread of covid-19.

MICHELL ZYMET, ENTIRE FAMILY CONTRACTED CORONAVIRUS: He went to, you know, someone's home, there was a few people there, and I'm sure they were eating, drinking.

FOREMAN: Michelle Zymet, 21 year old son went to a gathering of friends, came home, now her whole family is covid positive. Her husband, John is on a ventilator.

ZYMET: And it is scary that he is there, all alone fighting for his life. And you let your guard down, just one time, that's all it takes and look, you come home and you infect the entire house.

FOREMAN: This is precisely what health officials have worried about all along. People make a decision to do what they want to do and go where they want to go, and that potentially affects hundreds of other people, who did not make that choice. Tom Foreman, CNN, Washington.

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CHURCH: Well, still to come, President Trump downplays police violence against black Americans with some misleading claims. We will take a look when we come back.

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CHURCH: Once a source of national pride, Pakistan's national airline is in shambles, an investigation into a plane crash earlier this year has revealed that many Pakistani airline pilots cheated in order to pass their flight exams. CNN's Richard Quest has the details.

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RICHARD QUEST, CNN BUSINESS ANCHOR: The airline was founded in 1946. Pakistan International Airlines, better known as PIA and it has long been a source of intense national pride, a national flagship that transported world leaders including the U.S. first lady Jackie Kennedy. Over the last three decades, budget cuts, mismanagement, and a spiraling safety record, it's all tarnished the PIA's reputation.

And this May, PIA passenger jet crashed in Karachi, killing 97 people on board and bringing to the forefront of the worries and concerns about PIA. In the aftermath of the crash, the aviation minister made a shocking announcement. Almost one a third of Pakistan registered pilots were flying on dubious licenses. And that included 141 pilots of PIA, though not the pilots involved in the fatal crash.

SHIBLI FARAZ, PAKISTANI INFORMATION MINISTER: We are proud of the fact that our (inaudible) pick on such irregularities and you know, we face the world and tell them that you know, we are not putting things under the culprit.

QUEST: Pilots allegedly paid bribes to avoid taking theoretical exams or paid others to take those exams for them. The reaction both at home and abroad has been swift and brutal. Regulators in Europe and the U.S., Malaysia and Vietnam, have either banned flights from PIA or suspended Pakistan licensed pilots working for local airlines.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It is a blow to the aviation industry in Pakistan.

QUEST: A spokesperson for Pakistan's Airline Pilots Association says while they know there is a problem, they don't believe it is as widespread as the government claims.

MAJID AKHTAR, PAKISTANI AIRLINE PILOT'S ASSOCIATION: 262 is absolutely ridiculous, 34 people out of 141 are not in PIA. They have either never worked or they may have retired or passed away or etc.

QUEST: PIA and the Pilots Association say no pilots are accused of actually faking the practical flight hours required. The government says all pilots on suspicious licenses were immediately suspended. PIA has now fired 28 of them. Further action is clearly needed and quickly. Firstly to fix the problem, and then just stem the damage to the reputations of Pakistan's aviation industry.

Are you going to bring in external scrutiny so that as licenses are reissued, the rest of the world can have confidence? Because frankly, at the moment, they won't have confidence if it is the same regulator issuing the license.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No. Obviously, that is our top most priority. We want to restore the confidence that the international aviation industry have in our pilots and our airlines. We are asking and we will appreciate if the international agencies will come and they observe and they approve of the systems that we have put in place.

QUEST: Airlines are already struggling to stay aloft during the covid crisis. Pakistan International Airlines must do so while also at the same time winning back faith in the men and women who fly their passengers. Richard Quest, CNN.

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CHURCH: Well, President Trump is downplaying police violence against black Americans. During an interview, he claimed that more white people are dying at the hands of law enforcement than black people. Take a listen.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why are African Americans still dying at the hands of law enforcement in this country?

DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: And so are white people. So are white people. What a terrible question to ask. So our white people. More white people, by the way. More white people.

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CHURCH: In fact, a federal study on deaths between 2009 and 2012 found a disproportionate number of people killed by police are black, with a fatality rate 2.8 times higher. The study also found that black victims are more likely to be unarmed. On Tuesday, President Trump also highlighted violent crime in cities across America.

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TRUMP: Look at what has happened to New York. Crime is up. Shootings are up at numbers that nobody has ever seen before. Look at Chicago. What a disaster. And we are waiting for them to call us because we are all set to go. We have the FBI. We have Homeland Security. We have everybody ready to go. We have the National Guard. They're all ready to go.

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CHURCH: Those huge spikes in violent crime are devastating families and communities. Brynn Gingras has details on the crime rate and how cities are responding.

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BRYNN GINGRAS, CNN CORREPOSNDENT: 14 shootings in 24 hours on New York City streets Monday, including the killing of a teenager shot in the head.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We are not going for this (BEEP). So I'm talking to the streets. You know who's killing who.

GINGRAS: A community outraged after a one year old, while sitting in his stroller was killed in a Brooklyn Park. More gun violence is being felt in cities big and small from coast to coast. In Seattle --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We are working very hard to reduce the number of shootings here in Seattle.

GINGRAS: Chicago, Charleston, Philadelphia, Atlanta.

MAYOR KEISHA LANCE BOTTOMS (D-ATGA): I hate to use the word a perfect storm, but it is where we are in this country right now.

GINGRAS: In New York.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There has to be a price for carrying a legal firearm in New York City, and right now the price is not high enough

GINGRAS: The NYPD points to numerous (inaudible) data showing so far this year, police re-arresting 1,452 individuals for major felonies. An offender who police say would otherwise likely be held in jail, but due to state bail reform laws which went into effect this year were released. That is 771 more arrests of the same group than this time last year.

On top of that, courts in New York and many states, have not been fully operational because of coronavirus restrictions. Meaning cases are not being prosecuted quickly, grand juries are not being convened, and there are limited jury selection procedures.

LUCY LANG, JOHN JAY COLLEGE OF CRIMINAL JUSTICE: In the absence of courts operating, and when people are coming through the courts, we are not seeing in the same level of de-briefings that are traditionally part of the kind of police work that we rely on to be able to respond to violent crime and often it involves prevention.

GINGRAS: A spokesperson for the Brooklyn district attorney office, the burrow which saw most of the shootings Monday told CNN, quote, for us, the biggest issue is that there are no grand juries, so we can't indict felony cases.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: More charge, not just for police brutality, do this for black on black, it can be your child.

GINGRAS: In the wake of George Floyd's murder in Minneapolis, protesters cried out coast to coast for changes in policing. And the defunding of departments, the demands met with swift reform. On Tuesday, Pennsylvania following in New York's footsteps, the Governor signing two measures into law, which address the hiring of officers and increases their training, including for implicit bias.

JOSH SHAPIRO, PENNSYLVANIA ATTORNEY GENERAL: Let me say this very clearly. Black lives matter. I will say it again, black lives matter. But saying it, that is just not enough. We must listen, and we must take action.

GINGRAS: Across America, the continuous criticism and reform measures said to be weighing on the rank and file.

CHIEF TERENCE MONAHAN, NYPD CHIEF OF DEPARTMENT: If you're out on the streets, and every time you turn on television, they say how much they hate you and how much they don't need you and how unimportant you are to the safety of your citizens, it does a lot for their morale.

GINGRAS: Over a one-week period at the beginning of this month, NYPD retirements soared, more than 400 percent compared to the same week last year. A detective who is considering retirement told CNN, every day the pension section sends out a notice of who went that day and filed. It used to be a page, maybe two at the most, the other day it was six pages.

Meanwhile, departments are striving to do better, knowing how vital it is to build relationships with the communities they serve. The NYPD instituting changes within, including a signing a new head to community affairs with the task of reimagining community policing.

CHIEF JEFFREY MADDREY, NYPD, COMMUNITY AFFAIRS BUREAU: When people start talking about issues of systemic racism and police brutality, these are hard conversations that I'm prepared to take on. That I will take on it.

GINGRAS: But in the end, experts say it needs to be all hands on deck to turn this alarming trend around, from police, to courts, to communities. Brynn Gingras, CNN, New York.

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CHURCH: And thank you so much for joining us this hour. I am Rosemary Church. I'll be right back with another hour of news. Do stay with us.

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