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CDC Forecasts 20,000 More Deaths Due To Coronavirus In U.S. By Late August; Enhanced Unemployment Benefits Expire As Congress Continues Negotiations Regarding Economic Stimulus Package; Hurricane Isaias Threatens U.S. East Coast From Florida To Maine; Miami-Dade County Mayor Carlos Gimenez (R) Is Interviewed On Sheltering Due To Hurricane During Coronavirus Pandemic; New Jersey Governor Warns Of Increasing Cases Of Coronavirus. Aired 2-3p ET

Aired August 1, 2020 - 14:00   ET

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ERICA HILL, CNN HOST: Hi, everyone. Thanks for joining me. I'm Erica Hill in for Fredricka Whitfield.

We begin this hour with growing fears over the coronavirus pandemic and the rising death rate here in the United States. The CDC projecting another 20,000 lives will be lost in this country in just the next three weeks. Thirty states have now paused or are rolling back plans to reopen. And the U.S. death toll is now more than 153,000.

In the month of July, there were 10 different days on which the daily reported deaths topped 1,000. Meantime, there is concern still that millions of Americans won't be able to make ends meet as we begin a new month. And that $600 unemployment benefit, it is now gone. It expired at midnight.

A short time ago White House officials and Democratic leaders met on Capitol Hill. They just wrapped up what they called a productive meeting on a new stimulus measure. The hope there, of course, is to mitigate the economic toll of this disease.

But all of this as there's a new problem emerging. Hurricane Isaias is threatening coastlines from Florida all the way up into Maine. The potential impact, some 70 million Americans.

Let's begin first, though, with those negotiations in Washington for a new coronavirus relief package. CNN's Jeremy Diamond joining us now from the White House. So what are officials saying about those talks earlier today, Jeremy?

JEREMY DIAMOND, CNN WHITE HOUSE REPORTER: Well, Erica, look, overnight those enhanced unemployment benefits for millions of Americans expired, and today you saw lawmakers and White House officials back at it trying to negotiate this phase four stimulus bill to help those Americans who are out of work as well as provide additional funds for testing and other funds to help address this coronavirus pandemic. Of course, yesterday we saw a lot of finger pointing between Democrats

and Republicans. The White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows accusing Democrats of playing politics, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi doing very much the same in the other direction. But today Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows met with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and the Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer. They met for three hours, and they are now calling it on both sides the most productive talks they have had so far. Listen.

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STEVEN MNUCHIN, TREASURY SECRETARY: There's clearly a subset of issue where we both agree on very much. We're very interested in extending on enhanced unemployment insurance, we're very interested in schools, we're very interested in jobs. I think, as you know, as the leader McConnell has said several times, liability insurance is very important to us. So there's definitely the PPP, there's a lot of bipartisan support.

MARK MEADOWS, WHITE HOUSE CHIEF OF STAFF: It was a productive day. I think both Senator Schumer and Speaker Pelosi would agree with that. We're still a long ways apart, and I don't want to suggest that a deal is imminent, because it is not. But like with any deal, as you make progress, I think it's important to recognize that you're making progress.

SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D-NY), SENATE MINORITY LEADER: This was the longest meeting we had, and it was more productive than the other meetings. There are many issues that are still very much outstanding where we're apart. But we had a serious discussion and we went down piece by piece and saw where each side is at.

REP. NANCY PELOSI (D-CA), HOUSE SPEAKER: We have to get rid of this virus so that we can open our economy, safely open our schools, and to do so in a way that does not give a cut in benefits to America's workers.

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DIAMOND: And as you can hear there, Erica, the message is pretty much the same on both sides, that there was a lot of progress today, perhaps the most progress they have made so far as they try and break this logjam, but that there is still a long ways to go. And indeed there is, because beyond the unemployment insurance issue, first of all, on that front alone, there is huge disagreement in terms of Democrats wanting to extend those $600 of additional dollars per week for unemployment insurance until January. Republicans viewing that as a disincentive to work, wanting to scale

that back.

And then a whole host of other issues, whether it's funding for states, funding for testing, funding for schools. There are a host of disagreements that these lawmakers are still working out. And so tomorrow you're going to see the staff level meetings happening between the White House and Capitol Hill, and then on Monday, those principals who you saw there on camera will be meeting once again. And of course, the backdrop to all of this, Erica, is that millions of

Americans still out of work for the last 19 weeks. We have seen more than 1 million Americans file for new unemployment benefits. And so it's certainly a dire situation, and this congressional logjam so far, a little bit of break in it, but not much. Erica?

HILL: That's for sure. Jeremy Diamond with the latest for us. Jeremy, thank you.

We are also continuing to track hurricane Isaias, the category one story threatening coastlines from Florida all the way up into Maine. The potential impact, some 70 million Americans.

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CNN's Randi Kaye is in Palm Beach. So Randi, of course, all of this is unfolding against the backdrop of the pandemic in Florida. What are the preparations where you are? And do people seem overly concerned? People in Florida know how to deal with a hurricane, but it's different this time around.

RANDI KAYE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Absolutely, another more than 9,500 new cases today, Erica, and more than 170 new deaths. And we are in a state of emergency here, not because of COVID, but because of this hurricane that is heading our way here in Palm Beach County. Twelve counties in the state of Florida under a state of emergency, including this one.

But if you look around and you ask if people are afraid of this or concerned about it, take a look behind me. You can see some people hanging out there on the beach. They have been out here all morning, sunning themselves. There's also some people right there swimming in the water. So people have been running on the beach this morning. I guess they're just trying to soak it all in until they have to go inside when the hurricane gets closer or possibly hits here in Florida.

Meanwhile, in Palm Beach County this morning, they aren't wasting any time. They opened six shelters, emergency shelters early this morning. Those will be in high schools. Last time around, the last hurricane they had 17,000 people go into these shelters. They hope to separate some family units and keep it safe.

The state, meanwhile, says that they are going to try and reserve some hotel rooms for people who might be feeling symptomatic, because the last thing they want is for people to stay home if they need to evacuate. That's a big if, but just in case they do need to evacuate, they don't want them to stay home, which is interesting because, as you know, for the last many months they've been telling us exactly the opposite, that we should be staying home.

Meanwhile, the Division of Emergency Management also is giving some guidance on these shelters, saying that people should not gather more than 50 people in a shelter, the county should not do that. They should do temperature checks, and they should try and have 60 square feet per person in these shelters. But in Miami-Dade they're doing something really interesting. They're

using what they call these U.V. sterilizing fans, and they are putting them in their 20 primary shelters. And they're hoping, according to emergency management, that these can actually basically zap the airborne particles that might be in the air at the shelters and keep them safer.

Florida Power and Light as well is on alert for this incoming storm. They say that they have about 10,000 personnel here ready to go. They are expecting widespread outages here in the state. They have crews from Georgia and Texas coming in to try and help them as well. But they do expect that there will be delays if there are power outages because they have to sanitize equipment, they have to temperature check people, they need to social distance, so they won't be able to work as quickly, certainly.

Meanwhile, the governor says that there will be generators on site at 100 percent of all the nursing homes and all the assisted living facilities here in the state, which is very important, Erica, because you may recall back in 2017 during hurricane Irma, 14 people died because of lack of air-conditioning in a nursing home here in south Florida. Back to you.

HILL: Absolutely. Randi Kaye with the latest for us from Palm Beach. Randi, thank you.

CNN meteorologist Chad Myers is tracking this storm for us. So Chad, what are we looking at? What's the timing on this?

CHAD MYERS, CNN METEOROLOGIST: The 2:00 p.m. advisory is just in. It is still a hurricane. It is a mess. It's an absolute disaster of a hurricane. It doesn't even have a bottom of the eye. I'll show you that on the radar. But it looks like it's still going to move towards south Florida.

And the first real band of squally weather just moved through south Florida on radar, some gusty winds across parts of North Beach, South Beach, all the way through, and even, for that matter, to Virginia Key. This is what the radar looks like from the Bahamas. A thank you to the Bahamas Department of Meteorology to be able to use this. That's what the radar looks like.

The northern half is really pretty much good and solid, the other side is gone. Here's the very next first line, I guess, for Miami. We had one that moved up through Fort Stewart and a little bit farther to the north, but this is the first one for south Florida proper.

There's dry air in the way. I talked to some people in Miami today, and they said this doesn't feel like a hurricane. Where is the humidity? It's gone, and that's the good news. It's stopping the hurricane from getting stronger.

We still have hurricane warnings. This is still forecast to get to 80 miles per hour from the 75 we are now. So when it gets into the gulf stream it could still generate itself a little bit stronger. They'll be hope that that dry air stays in the way, because if it does, then all of a sudden this stays as a category one where the forecast is, and can't get any bigger, even in the gulf stream.

Now, eventually this thing could run right through parts of New England as a 50 mile per hour storm, and that doesn't seem like a hurricane and it's not, but in itself that could still make some power outages up there. We'll keep that in mind.

All the models are either onshore or just offshore. A lot of agreement with this two to four foot storm surge and somewhere in the 70 to 75 mile per hour range of wind if the storm stays on its current path the way it's going up the east coast. A little farther to the left it will be stronger, a little farther to the right it will be weaker. Erica?

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HILL: All right, we know you'll continue to watch it for us and keep up updated. Chad, thank you.

Joining us now, Miami-Dade County Mayor Carlos Gimenez. Mr. Mayor, good to see you. So we got a little bit of information there from Randi, who I know is in Palm Beach, but she was talking a little bit about what's actually happening in Miami-Dade County. One of the things that really stood out to me is that the Red Cross has said, and they did say this a few weeks ago, that they are not going to staff shelters because they can't get that 60 square foot per person of social distancing. Is that concerning for you?

MAYOR CARLOS GIMENEZ (R), MIAMI-DADE COUNTY, FLORIDA: Well, here we use the Red Cross as a backstop. Actually Miami-Dade workers, along with Miami-Dade public school workers, are the ones that actually open and operate the shelters, and then we use the Red Cross to help them out. But we rely on our own people here to do all the shelters.

We need to shelter -- we could need to shelter up to 100,000 people when we have a big storm coming from a certain direction because the storm surge. And so we kind of take care of ourselves. We'll be fine. We have allocated -- we went from 20 square feet per person to 40 square feet per person, and that should be adequate.

Also, anybody who is positive to COVID-19, we'll be able to put them in classroom settings, kind of separate them from the general population. We will be giving masks. We will be giving sanitizers. We'll be distributing food in a different way. And so we've taken a lot of precautions for COVID-19 for hurricane season.

HILL: Mr. Mayor, you mentioned if anyone is positive. When people arrive at a shelter, what's the protocol? Will their temperature be taken? Will they be tested? And how will you have those results in time to know if they need to be isolated?

GIMENEZ: No, what I'm talking about, somebody who is positive, that they self-identify as being positive. And we will take temperatures. Obviously, people that have high temperatures also will be isolated. But no, it's impossible to give a test and all of a sudden turn it around in time.

And so that is not in the works. But it is, if you self-identify, we will be able to put you somewhere where you're basically isolated from the rest of the group, and then you do have a social separation and you do have the masks, and you do have the hand washing, sanitizers, and all of that. So we hope that that reduces the risk as much as possible.

You've got to take -- it's one or the other. If you're in the way of a hurricane and you've got a strong hurricane coming with storm surge, that's the immediate threat that we have to take care of.

HILL: The president, as we know, has declared a state of emergency for the state. How does that help you in terms of storm preparations?

GIMENEZ: Well, any time it's declared a state of emergency, anything that happens here after the fact, it's FEMA eligible. Right now our preparations are the same. We don't have any shelters open here in Miami-Dade because the storm is actually slated to be more further up in Palm Beach and further up the coast.

And so we expect to get tropical storm force winds starting around 3:00 to 5:00, lasting about eight to 10 hours, but not really sustained tropical storm force winds. We'll probably have gusts that are higher. But we expect this to be, for us, it's not a hurricane, and we are used to hurricanes, and big ones here. And so this is not a major event for us right now.

HILL: For better or for worse, you've got a lot of practice there.

Really quickly, before I let you go, I saw you had tweeted earlier, the county had tweeted that hospitalizations are down. That's a good sign. We know cases plateauing a bit in Florida, but they are still very, very high. What's your number one concern today?

GIMENEZ: It's always hospitalizations. And for today, obviously if we lose power, we've got some folks that are power dependent, medically power dependent. And so we've got the list and so we know how to get to them.

But in terms of what we look at all the time, I look at hospitalizations, I look at how many people are in the ICU, how many people are on ventilators, the capacity. The good news is that from the high of 2,300 hospitalizations, we're down to about 1,900 today.

The ICUs will follow hopefully in about a week, and the ventilators also will be following on a downward trend. Our positivity rate looks like it's heading -- it's stabilized and it's also heading in a down ward trend. These are good signs.

We're going to continue our efforts. We're not going to let up. We're not opening up anything. We're going to continue with our enforcement, and then drive home the message, wear your mask, keep your distance, wash your hands. And if we do that, we can continue on this downward trend.

HILL: Let's hope that is the direction that things do continue. Mr. Mayor, appreciate your time today, thank you. Mayor Carlos Gimenez joining us from Miami-Dade. Coronavirus cases are spiking in parts of the northeast, including

places that were doing really well, like New Jersey.

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GOV. PHIL MURPHY, (D) NEW JERSEY: We are standing in a very dangerous place. As I said, the alarms are going off.

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HILL: The alarms are going off there. In Connecticut, the governor says gatherings like this one, they have to stop. We're going to talk about that and much more. Stay with us. You're in the CNN Newsroom.

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HILL: New Jersey is reporting nearly 400 new coronavirus cases and 11 news deaths today. Governor Phil Murphy sounding the alarm after recent house parties, outbreaks among lifeguards, including one house party, by the way, that took police more than five hours to break up. CNN's Evan McMorris-Santoro joining us from New York. The governor is not mincing words at this point, Evan.

EVAN MCMORRIS-SANTORO, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's right, Erica. The governor is expressing a fear that's in the back of their minds everywhere of people where I am right now, which is in Manhattan. But if I look over there, I see New Jersey. And what people are worried about is that the good news here in places like this will become bad news like we're seeing around other parts of the country.

Let's look at a graphic real quick. It's a seven-day rolling average of new cases in New Jersey. And as you can see, the worst days of the pandemic are in the past.

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But you can see right there at the end a slight uptick in numbers. And that's the kind of thing that authorities in places like New York and New Jersey are really worried about. And as you mentioned, the governor, when talking about numbers like that, was not very happy.

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GOV. PHIL MURPHY, (D) NEW JERSEY: We are standing in a very dangerous place. As I said, the alarms are going off. The only way to silence these alarms and get back to the process of moving forward is for everyone to take them seriously, not just most of you, but all of you, all of us.

We are not past this. Everyone who walks around refusing to wear a mask or who hosts an indoor house party or who overstuffs a boat is directly contributing to these increases. This has to stop and it has to stop now.

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MCMORRIS-SANTORO: Now, look, that house party the governor referred to and you also mentioned is just the kind of plain stupid behavior that authorities here are very, very concerned about. This house party took place last Sunday, and it was over 700 people attended. It took police five hours to clear it out.

That's the kind of thing that makes authorities very upset here and the kind of thing that makes people all over the country nervous that the good numbers that this place has been showcasing may be going in the other direction, Erica.

HILL: That is exactly what no one wants to see, and that's why you hear Governor Murphy often refer to people as knuckleheads in those events. Evan McMorris-Santoro, thank you.

Joining me to discuss, Dr. Darria Long, a clinical assistant professor at the University of Texas and an emergency room physician. We have heard more and more officials, it is not just Governor Murphy, but across the country we are hearing officials say the indoor gatherings, the large gatherings have to stop.

How significant are they when it comes to what we're seeing in a spike in cases? We're watching this now move out of the south, right, into the Midwest that's a new area of concern.

DR. DARRIA LONG, EMERGENCY ROOM PHYSICIAN: Yes, Erica. Good to see you. And yes, the indoor gatherings, these large gatherings, this is a no-brainer to summarize what the governor had said. And I feel like many of these people are kind of like my patients. I give them a 10- day course for an infection, they feel better after day three and so they stop taking the antibiotics.

A lot of different counties that had gotten COVID under control, people are now going about their lives as if COVID didn't exist. We can't do that. On a 10-day course of antibiotics, we're at day three. We have to stay the course.

HILL: There's also concern about young people, right, and that's something else that we're hearing from a lot of officials is it's large gatherings, and it's young people, specifically people in their 20s and their 30s. What is it about the message you think that is not getting through? We just even saw the first teen-related death in California.

LONG: Yes, I think it's two things. I think young people think they're not going to be affected by it. And then I think you're dealing with in general younger people who tend to be healthy and have not lost a lot of people, have not seen a lot of disease in their life. So I think it's really important that we draw it back to this is not just about you. This is you taking it to your family members, to your coworkers, to your children if you have them. It's about the bigger picture.

HILL: In terms of a bigger picture, here in New York state the infection is now under one percent. That has come with a lot of hard work, as we know. But things happen in the tristate area of New York, New Jersey, Connecticut.

They have been working in concert because so much is connected, especially in the New York City Metropolitan Area between these three states. When you see a rise in cases in New Jersey, how concerned are you about the neighboring states?

LONG: Yes, of course. This virus doesn't care what state you live in or what your driver's license says. So yes, absolutely, you're right. If there's a spike in one area it can easily bleed over into another quarter.

HILL: And what about the quarantines that we've seen? The quarantine measures being put in place, I should say, for travelers from certain states, from certain areas. Here in New York state I think we're up to something like 34 states, and D.C. and Puerto Rico at one point also on that list. If people actually abide by that mandatory 14-day quarantine, how effective are those measures?

LONG: Well, one thing I've been saying all along, Erica, if we want to stay open as an economy, we have to take many other conservative measures, which can include quarantining, staying in an area and not trying to take the disease to another area. So I think they can be effective, but they're part of a multi-layered strategy.

HILL: As we look at reopening schools, this is such a hot topic for obvious reasons. I'm a parent, I want my kids to go back to school, but we want everyone to be safe, not just in school, but in the greater community. There's this new CDC study about the camp in Georgia and the outbreak we saw there. The campers didn't wear masks. What I found really fascinating, though, were the infection rates, the percentage of kids, their infection rates based on ages.

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And it was a third of those 18 to 21 became infected with the virus. It's the six to 10-year-olds, more than half of them, just over half of them became infected with the virus. We are learning about this virus every single day, but looking at those numbers, does that -- is there a lesson in there for all of us as we look at sending kids back to school?

LONG: You know, Erica, there is. I'm a mom, too, with two young kids. And this camp is in my backyard. I live in Georgia as well. So looking at it, what this showed us is these kids, they took tests, everybody took tests before they came.

But then once they got there, they weren't careful. They didn't wear masks. They did all sorts of activities, and most of these camp kids were in cabins with 16 to 26 kids at a time. So it's not a surprise that there's an outbreak.

I've been telling everybody, for us to get back to schools, there are three keystone steps every school has to take. If you don't take those steps, then when schools open up, we will almost a two-times rise of COVID, according to some models. But if you take the right steps, you can decrease COVID from coming into the schools, you can decrease transmission within the schools, and you can catch it very early. But we have to do all three of those steps. We can't do a la carte prevention here and just choose what steps we want to do.

HILL: We all have to take the steps together, too. That's important as well.

LONG: Yes, absolutely.

HILL: Dr. Darria Long, always great to get your expertise. Thank you.

Just ahead, millions of Americans out of work, businesses shutting down, and now this week the U.S. economy posting its worst drop on record. So where do we go from here? I'll ask a financial expert.

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HILL: Millions of Americans are feeling the effects of the coronavirus, both medically and financially. Unemployment continues to be an issue. Some families are unable to afford food. In several states we've seen many of those same people turning to food banks, a number of folks for the very first time.

And that's what we are seeing today in Los Angeles. CNN Paul Vercammen is at a food distribution site this afternoon. So Paul, I know a number of people there, they fall into that camp. This may be the first time that they've needed to seek out assistance.

PAUL VERCAMMEN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's exactly right, Erica. And look behind me. There's a line here for this food give away at the first Unitarian Church here in Koreatown. It goes all the way down and halfway around -- in Los Angeles, because, as you know, unemployment benefits are running out, and we have some people who have been out of work for almost a half a year.

So as we come here into the church itself, this could not get done. They're going to feed or give boxes out to about 2,000 people today without volunteers, as many of 60 of them. And to keep them vibrant and dynamic and energized, we actually have a deejay here, Deejay Jay, who is helping out the troops as they stack up all these boxes. You can see this assembly line. They are working very, very hard over there.

And I want to talk to Trinity Tran, who runs this event. Go ahead and show us what is in your boxes. They seem unusually well stocked.

TRINITY TRAN, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, URBAN PARTNERS L.A.: Yes, so we try to give enough food to feed a family of four. So it's an assortment of vegetables, dry goods, meat, milk, dairy. You see the cheese there. So it's a two-day operation. We rent a truck. We pick up about 100,000 pounds of food, 100,000 pounds of food every week to feed a family of four. It's an incredible volunteer grassroots operation.

VERCAMMEN: Rewarding to see the look on people's faces as they get a box like this. TRAN: Absolutely, absolutely. As I mentioned before, people were in

line at midnight for our doors, seven hours they wait in line for a box of food. But this helps so many people, considering that work hours are being reduced, people are losing their jobs. So whatever we can do to help as many low-income seniors and families in the neighborhood, that's why we're out here. It's a true labor of love.

VERCAMMEN: Again, we appreciate you taking time out, Trinity. As you can see, here is the fruits of their labor. All of these boxes filled with food. She said some people lined up at midnight, Erica, just to get their box today. Back to you.

HILL: Yes, the need is certainly there. It is there in Los Angeles and around the country. Paul, thank you. Thanks to Trinity Tran and her folks for all the work they're doing there.

Millions of Americans who have lost their jobs are now losing something else, that additional $600 unemployment benefit. It expired at midnight last night. Most folks have already received their final payment. For many, though, that money was needed to help keep them afloat.

It was helping to pay their rent. It was helping to put food on the table, to pay their utility bills. Just this week another 1.4 million people filed jobless claims. And with Congress in a stalemate over another rescue package, it doesn't appear that help is on the way anytime soon.

Joining us now, Michelle Singletary. She's a nationally syndicated personal finance columnist for the "Washington Post" and the author of "The 21 Day Financial Fast, Your Path to Financial Peace and Freedom." Michelle, always good to have you here.

Let's start with the money, right, that people had been receiving. That supplement, that extra $600, to take that away, what's the immediate impact there, not just personally, but on the greater economy as well?

MICHELLE SINGLETARY, SYNDICATED PERSONAL FINANCE COLUMNIST, "THE WASHINGTON POST": I think it's just an awful thing that we are here and that last deadline has passed and there isn't aid for people.

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And it meant a lot. As you said, it meant food on the table, it meant if you couldn't pay all your rent, some of your rent. And it's just so disheartening that so many people are now facing a week or two of not knowing how they're going to pay for things.

HILL: Yes, their bills aren't going away, as we know, whether it's rent or food or car payments. And many people can't work right now, because their businesses have shut down. There have been promises in this next stimulus package that there will be another check attached to it for most Americans.

If there is, and I think for a lot of families it's a big if, if there is extra, right, after you get that check, where should folks be putting that money? Should it go immediately into a savings to get through what's to come?

SINGLETARY: Well, it depends on where you are. If you've lost your job, the money is just going to go to pay for bills, utilities, food, car payments, things like that. If you have reduced hours, and you can manage, then definitely save it, because we're not sure what's going to happen, whether the Democrats and Republicans are going to come to the table with something in the next couple of weeks.

If you are working, and there's still a lot of people still working, this may be the time to catch up on that emergency fund that you never funded, or pay down some debt so that if you are out of work, you won't have to worry about those payments when you don't have a paycheck.

HILL: When we look at what we saw in terms of that drop in economic growth, the worst drop that we'd seen on record, when you look at that, when you look at the filings for unemployment, again, this week over a million, what are your biggest concerns?

SINGLETARY: I think two things, obviously people being able to just feed their families. As we know, lots of schools are deciding to have the kids at home. And I don't know about you, but I've got young adults in my house, and there's something about being home all day that they figure they have to eat all day. And so --

HILL: Yes.

SINGLETARY: -- make sure we have got enough food in the house. And then a lot of the rent moratoriums, the moratoriums on evictions are starting to end.

And on the opposite side, there are landlords who have to pay their bills. And that's the tug of war, right. Landlords have to pay their bills, but then they've got tenants who are out of work, and so now you've got this thing going on and nobody can make it work. And so that's what's so concerning to me.

Listen, Erica, every day in my email box I get notes from people who are taking care of disabled children, who have lost their job and haven't worked since March, and single parents. And I don't even know what to say to them. We have a Congress that can't come to the table and figure out how to help these people, and yet they have been overly generous to businesses.

And I just think that's a failing that we need to take care of. People are not asking to make them rich. They're just saying can you give me a little money so that I can make sure that I can keep a roof over my head and food on the table.

HILL: Yes, listen, I think you put it perfectly there. Michelle, I really appreciate you being with us today, always appreciate your time and your insight as well. Thank you.

SINGLETARY: You're so welcome. HILL: Just ahead, President Trump is setting his sights on the video

appear TikTok. He's now warning he's going to use his executive powers to ban the Chinese-owned company from the U.S. He says this is over security concerns. That's ahead.

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HILL: At least one marine is dead, eight others are missing following a training accident off the coast of southern California. A search and rescue effort is now under way after an accident involving an amphibious vehicle. Sixteen people were inside that vehicle when it began taking on water.

Two Marines who were picked up floating in the ocean suffered injuries, we're told one of them critical. Defense Secretary Mark Esper tweeting "Deeply saddened by and closely monitoring this tragic accident. Please keep our Marines, Sailors, and their families in your prayers as the search continues." The incident is now under investigation.

A federal appeals court has overturned the death penalty for Boston Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev. The court rules Tsarnaev should be given a new penalty phase trial where a new set of jurors can decide whether he should be sentenced to death. He was convicted in 2015 for the attack at the finish line of the Boston Marathon. That attack killed three people, wounded more than 260 others. Tsarnaev is currently being held in federal prison in Colorado.

President Trump is warning he'll use his executive power to ban TikTok from the U.S. The popular video app is owned by a Chinese company and critics have warned that data from U.S. users could end up in the hands of the Chinese government. The U.S. General Manager of TikTok released a video hours ago saying the company isn't going anywhere, and then listed TikTok's U.S. investments.

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VANESSA PAPPAS, U.S. GENERAL MANAGER, TIKTOK: I'm also proud of our 1,500 U.S. employees who work on this app every day and the additional 10,000 jobs that we're bringing into this country over the next three years. I'm thrilled about our U.S. creator fund where we just announced our $1 billion fund to support your creators. And when it comes to safety and security, we're building the safest app because we know it's the right thing to do.

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HILL: CNN's Donie O'Sullivan covers the intersection of technology and politics. So Donie, President Trump here is saying he can shut down TikTok in the U.S. with an executive order. Number one, does he have that power?

DONIE O'SULLIVAN, CNN POLITICS AND TECHNOLOGY REPORTER: If he decides to sign an executive order on this, he could potentially compel American app stores like Apple and Google that carry the TikTok app to essentially ban the app from this country. So you hear TikTok's U.S. general manager there saying that they're not planning on going anywhere, but that decision might be taken out of their hands, and sooner than they might even realize.

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Now, this all came last night when President Trump told reporters on Air Force One that he was planning on banning the app from the United States, and he said that just a few hours after it emerged that Microsoft, an American company, was in the running to buy TikTok from its Chinese owners.

That all came about because the U.S. government, citing national security concerns, is telling TikTok it has to get rid of its Chinese ownership, so Microsoft buying the company may resolve some of those issues.

Obviously since last night, there are millions of TikTok American users, particularly young people, they've taken to the app since President Trump spoke last night, expressing their disappointment and their worry. So it's possible we may be hearing more about how this is all going to play out over the course of the next 24 hours, Erica.

HILL: We'll be looking for more on that.

Meantime, this Twitter hack of major companies, high-profile people, including former Vice President Biden, former President Obama, what more do we know about this? There was a teenager who is now allegedly connected?

O'SULLIVAN: That's right. Incredibly, the mastermind of this biggest hack in Twitter's history that took over the accounts of Obama, Vice President Biden, Kanye West, Bill Gates, and others, the mastermind, according to prosecutors, was a 17-year-old boy living in Tampa, Florida. He was arrested yesterday and has been charged, along with two others, who are all below the age of 25.

This will come as a relief in some senses in that perhaps this hack wasn't the work of a nation state, which was the initial concern. But obviously some serious questions for Twitter about the integrity of its security if some teenagers can take over the accounts of the most powerful people in the world, Erica.

HILL: Absolutely, which brings us full circle, right, because there have been all these concerns about TikTok's vulnerability and security issues there.

O'SULLIVAN: Absolutely. So it's all connected, of course. Facebook -- Tiktok is making a point, their spokespeople are coming out very strongly and saying about this ban, potential ban in the U.S., that Facebook is planning on launching a TikTok copycat. And of course, there has been a lot of discussion about Mark Zuckerberg and Trump's relationship. So fascinating, an all inter-lapping situation happening here.

HILL: Yes, it really is. Donie, we know you'll continue to cover it for us. Thank you.

Just ahead, the bad news for Major League Baseball just keeps on coming. Details on the latest postponement due to, you guessed it, more positive coronavirus cases.

Plus, every parent wants a great school year for their kids. W. Kamau Bell, though, uncovers why that's not possible for some. And this has nothing to do actually with coronavirus, believe it or not. This happens all the time. He's going to take you inside the public school system. This is an all new "United Shades of America," tomorrow night, 10:00 p.m., right here on CNN.

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HILL: That scheduled game between the Cardinals and Brewers today, not happening. It is being postponed after more Cardinals tested positive for COVID-19 according to the MLB Network and ESPN. Meantime, the NBA and the NHL appear to be having success with a different approach, the sports bubble. Here is CNN's Martin Savidge.

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MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Sports leagues are using shortened seasons, bubbles, team sequestering, and rapid testing to let the games begin. Could the winners and losers teach us something? Take baseball.

Already a number of games are on hold as more than 20 members of the Miami Marlins tested positive for coronavirus. Players aren't sequestered and teams travel to outbreak hotspots. The Washington Nationals were so concerned about going to Florida, they put to a vote.

DAVE MARTINEZ, WASHINGTON NATIONALS MANAGER: And we all decided that it was probably unsafe to go there.

SAVIDGE: Friday the Cardinals-Brewers game postponed after two members of the St. Louis team tested positive. Meanwhile, the National Hockey League and the National Basketball Association have opted for a different approach, keeping participants in a closed environment where they live, practice, and play their games -- the bubble.

So far, so good. During training camp, the NHL tested more than 800 players. There were two positive the first week and none the second. The teams now face off in two secure zones, in Edmonton and Toronto, Canada.

GARY BETTMAN, NHL COMMISSIONER: We are feeling good about the fact that we have got a contained environment. In fact, one player was quoted as saying from the bubble that this is the safest he's felt since the middle of March.

SAVIDGE: At the NBA bubble in Orlando, where the season resumed Thursday, they are also declaring success. The league says only two players inside the bubble have tested positive, and that was over two weeks ago.

ADAM SILVER, NBA COMMISSIONER: In essence, everyone is tested on a nightly basis, and then they, as a practical matter, don't leave their rooms until they have the results the next morning.

SAVIDGE: Still to come, football. The NFL says it takes safety seriously, reconfiguring locker rooms, reducing travel schedules, doing away with preseason games. But like baseball, the NFL is allowing players and staff to go home, increasing their risk of getting infected.

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In an open letter, Commissioner Roger Goodell wrote "In a year that's been extraordinarily difficult for our country and the world, we hope that the energy of this moment will provide some much needed optimism." But growing numbers of NFL players opting out of the 2020 season would seem to indicate they don't share that optimism.

So what have sports taught us? Pretty much what we already knew, that quarantine and ample access to testing is a winning strategy.

Martin Savidge, CNN, Atlanta.

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HILL: Thanks for being with me this afternoon. I'm Erica Hill. CNN NEWSROOM with Ana Cabrera starts after this quick break.

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