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Joe Biden: Nothing I'm Proposing Violates Second Amendment; Joe Biden: Gun Violence "Is an Epidemic for God's Sake, It Has to Stop"; Joe Biden: Gun Manufacturers Should Lose Their Immunity from Lawsuits; Biden Announces Executive Actions on Gun Control. Aired 12-12:30p ET

Aired April 08, 2021 - 12:00   ET

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JOE BIDEN, PRESIDENT, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: So today we are taking steps to confront not just the gun crisis, but are actually a public health crisis. Nothing in about to recommend in any way impinges on the second amendment.

There are phony arguments suggesting that these are second amendment rights at stake from what we're talking about. But no amendment, no amendment to the constitution is absolute.

You can't yell crouch, you can't yell fire in a crowded movie theater we call a freedom of speech. In the very beginning, you couldn't own any weapon you wanted to own. From the very beginning of the second amendment existed, certain people weren't allowed to have weapons.

So the idea is just bizarre to suggest that some of the things we're recommending are contrary to the constitution. Gun violence in this country is an epidemic. We say it again. Gun violence in this country is an epidemic. And it's an international embarrassment.

You know, we saw it again. Last night as I was coming to the Oval Office, I got the word that in South Carolina, a physician with his wife, two grandchildren and a person working at his house was gunned down.

All five, so many people, so many that people sitting here today know that well, unfortunately, you know, they know what it's like when the seconds change your life forever. I've had the pleasure of getting to meet an awful circumstance.

Many of you, many of you who've lost your children, your husbands or wives, you know, they know what it's like to bury a piece of their soul deep in the earth. We understand that. Mark and Jackie, I want to tell you, it's always good to see you but not under these circumstances.

I want to say before I introduce the rest of the folks is you know, what a lot of people have not been through what they've been through, don't understand. It takes a lot of courage to come to an event like this. They're absolutely, absolutely determined to make change.

But Mark and Jackie, his son Daniel was a first grader in sandy hook elementary score. Daniel loves sports, loves outdoor sports, getting money. I see my friend Fred Gutenberg. His daughter, Jamie was a freshman at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School. She was an accomplished dancer.

I see Brandon Wolf. Over the shooting at the impulse, at the post club - nightclub he survived. But his two best friends die Greg Jackson who was just walking down the street when he was caught in crossfire of a gunfight.

And of course, I see a close friend of Jill's and mine, Congresswoman Gabby Gifford who is here, who was speaking with her constituents in front of a grocery store in our state. When she was shot and a member of her staff was killed.

You know, they're here. And their pain is immense. And you know, what a lot of you hopefully many of you don't know if you've gone through a trauma. No matter how much you work to make sure others don't go through it.

Every time you show up an event like this, it brings back when you got that phone call. It brings back the immediacy of what happened at that moment. So I genuinely mean it. Thank you. Thank you for having the courage, the courage to be here.

The courage to continue this fight Senator Blumenthal understands it. A lot of the folks out here understand it. But it takes real courage. So thank you. To turn pain into purpose and demand that we take the action and gives meaning to the word enough - enough, enough because what they want you to know, what they want you to do is not just listen.

Every day in this country 360 people are shot every single day. 106 of them die every day. Our flag was still flying at half staff for the victims of the horrific murder of eight primarily Asian American people in Georgia. When 10 more lives were taken in a mass murder in Colorado.

You probably didn't hear it but between those two incidents, less than one week apart there are more than 850 additional shootings.850 that took the lives of more than 250 people and left 500 engine. This is an epidemic for god's sake and it has to stop.

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So I'm here to talk about two things. First, the steps we're going to take immediately. And second, the action that needs to be taken going forward to curb the epidemic of gun violence.

I asked the attorney general and his team to identify for me immediate, concrete actions I could take now without having to go through the congress. And today I'm announcing several initial steps my administration is taking to curb this epidemic of gun violence, much more need to be done.

But the first one to rein in the proliferation of so called ghost guns. These are guns that are homemade, built from a kit and include directions and how to finish the firearm, you can go buy the kit, they have no serial numbers.

So when they show up at a crime scene, they can't be traced. And the buyers aren't required to pass a background check to buy the kit to make the gun. Consequently anyone, anyone from a criminal to a terrorist can buy this kit as little as 30 minutes put together a weapon.

You know, I want to see these kits treated as firearms under the Gun Control Act which is going to require that the seller and manufacturers make the key parts with serial numbers and run background checks on the buyers when they walk in to buy that package.

The second action, second action we're going to take back in 2000, the year 2000, the bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms released the report on its investigations of firearms trafficking in America.

The report was a pivotal values of important tool for policymakers when I was in the senate and beyond at all levels to stop firearms and being illegally diverted into dangerous hands. Today with online sales and ghost guns, times and trafficking methods have changed. And we have to adjust.

We also have to ask the justice department to release a new annual report. This report will better help policymakers address firearms trafficking as it is today. Not what it was yesterday. The third change.

We want to treat pistols modified with stabilizing braces with the seriousness they deserve. A stabilizing ratio can a pencil essentially makes that pistol a hell of a lot more accurate and a mini rifle. As a result, it's more lethal, effectively turning into a short barreled rifle.

That's what the alleged shooter in Boulder appears to have done. I want to be clear that these modifications to firearms that make them more lethal should be subject to the National Firearms Act.

The National Firearms Act requires that a potential owner pay $200 fee and submit their name and other identifying information to the justice department just say they would if they went out and purchased a silencer for gun.

Fourthly, during my campaign for president, I wanted to make it easier for states to adopt extreme risk protection order laws. They're also called Red Flag Laws which everybody in this lawn knows but many people listening do not know.

These laws allow a police or family member to petition a court in their jurisdiction. And say, I want you to temporarily move from the following people any firearm they may possess because they're a danger in a crisis. They're presenting a danger to themselves and others and a court makes a ruling.

To put this in perspective more than half of all suicides for example involve the use of a firearm. But when a gun is not available and attempted suicide, the death rate drops precipitously. States that have red flag laws have seen and see the reduction in the number of suicides in their states every single month.

By the way an average of 53 women are shot and killed by an intimate partner. I wrote the violence against women act. It's been a constant struggle to keep it moving. We know red flag laws can have significant effects in protecting women from domestic violence.

And we know red flag laws can stop mass shooters before they can act out their violent plans. I'm proud excuse the point of personal privilege I'm used to see in the senate. I'm proud that the red flag law in my home state of Delaware was named after my son, Attorney General Beau Biden our son, excuse me, Joe who've proposed that legislation back in 2013.

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I want to see a national red flag law and legislation to incentivize states to enact their own red flag laws. Today I asked the justice department to publish model red flag legislation, so states can start crafting their own laws right now.

Just like with background checks, the vast majority of the Americans support these extreme risk protection order laws. And it's time to put these laws on the books and protect even more people. The attorney general has more to say about this in a moment.

Additionally, we recognize that cities across the country have experienced historic spikes and homicides as a law enforcement can tell you. The violence is hitting black and brown communities the hardest.

Homicide is the leading cause of death of black boys and men ages 15 to 34, the leading cause of death. But there are proven strategies that reduce gun violence in urban communities. And there are programs that demonstrated they can reduce homicides by up to 60 percent in urban communities.

But many of these have been badly underfunded or not funded at all of late. Gun violence in America for those you think of this from an economic standpoint, listening to me estimated to cost the nation 280 billion we say it again, $280 billion a year.

He said how could that be Joe? Hospital bills, physical therapy, trauma counseling, legal fees, prison costs and the loss of productivity. Not to mention a psychological damage done to the children who live in these cities watching this happen, knowing someone who happened to.

This gun violence in our neighborhood is having profound impact on our children, even if they're never involved in pulling the trigger or being the victim of son the other side of --. For a fraction of the cost of gun violence we can save lives, create safe and healthy communities and build economies that work for all of us and save billions of American dollars. In the meantime, much of it as Senator - knows is taxpayer money.

Finally, the bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms the key agency enforcing gun laws hasn't had a permanent director since 2015.

Today, I'm proud to nominate David Chipman to serve as a Director of the AFT. David knows AFT well, he served there for 25 years. And Vice President Harris and I believe he's the right person at this moment for this important agency.

And I've said before my job, the job of any presidents to protect the American people. Whether congress acts or not, I'm going to use all the resources at my disposal as president to keep the American people save from gun violence. But there's much more that congress can do to help that effort.

And they can do it right now. They've offered plenty of thoughts and prayers, members of congress, but they passed not a single new federal law to reduce gun violence. Enough prayers time for some action.

I believe the senate should immediately pass three house pass bills to close loopholes that allow gun purchases purchasers to bypass the background checks. The vast majority of American people including gun owners believe there should be background checks before you purchase a gun.

As was noted earlier, hundreds of thousands of people have been denied guns because of the background checks what more would have happened. These bills, one, require background checks for anyone purchasing a gun at a gun show or an online sale.

Most people don't know you walk into a store and you buy a gun you have a background check. But you go to a gun show. You can buy whatever you want and no background check. Second thing is to close the Charles was - we know it's the Charleston loophole like people here I spent time down that church in Charleston.

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BIDEN: What happened is someone was allowed to get the gun used to kill those innocent people in the church service. If the FBI hasn't come, then complete the background check within three days. There's a process.

If wasn't done in three days, according to Charleston loophole, you get to buy the gun. They bought the gun and killed a hell of a lot of innocent people who invited him to pray with them.

And three, reauthorize the violence against women act, which is so called close the boyfriend and stalking loopholes to keep guns out of the hands of people found by a court to be an abuser and continually threat. I held over 1000 hours of hearings to pass the violence against women act.

And one thing came through. If in fact, a stay away order, an order preventing the abuser from coming in a certain distance of the person he has abused or she has abused. And now the idea that they can own a weapon when they have a court order, saying they are an abuser.

These are some of the best tools we have right now to prevent gun violence and save lives. But all these bills, they had supported both Democrats and Republicans in the House. And universal background checks are supported by the vast majority of the American people.

And I might add the vast majority of responsible gun owners. So let me be clear, this is not a partisan issue among the American people. This is a view by the American people as an American issue. And I'm willing to work with anyone to get these done.

And as long past time that we act. Now I know this has been a hobby horse of mine for a long time. Got it done once we should also ban assault weapons and high capacity magazines in this country so that 10 years we had it done a number of mass shootings actually went down.

Even law enforcement officials have told me and told other champions of this legislation. They sometimes feel out gun, buy assault weapons in large capacity magazines. There's no reason someone needs a weapon, a war with 100 rounds, 100 bullets that can be fired from that weapon.

Nobody needs that. Nobody needs that. We got that done when I was the United States Senator what - going up against the gun lobby, but it save lives. And we should also eliminate gun manufacturers from the immunity they received from the congress.

You realize, again, the people here because there's so knowledgeable on there and the rose garden. But one piece that people don't realize the only industry in America, a billion dollar industry that can't be sued has exempt from being sued are gun manufacturers.

Imagine how different it would be had that same exemption been available to tobacco companies who knew - who knew and lied about the danger? They were causing the cancer caused them to like, imagine where we'd be. But this is the only outfit that is exempt from being sued.

If I get one thing on my list, the lord came down and said, Joe, you get one of these, give me that one. Because I tell you what, there would be a - in the lord moment these folks would have real quickly. But they're not. They're not. They're exempt.

I know that the conversation about guns in this country can be a difficult one. But even here, there's much more common ground than anyone would believe. There's much more common ground. Everything that's been proposed today is totally consistent with the second amendment.

And there's a wide consensus behind the need to take action. I know that when overwhelming majority of Americans want to see something change or affect their lives and it still doesn't change, it can be demoralizing to our fellow citizens. It can feel like our entire political process is broken.

[12:20:00] I know it's painful and frustrating that we haven't made the progress that we'd hoped for. But it took five years to get Brady bill passed and it took even more years to work to pass the assault weapons ban. And it saved lives.

No matter how long it takes, we're going to get these passed. We're not going to give up. We have an opportunity to fulfill the first responsibility of government to keep our people safe. And in the process, we can show the world and show ourselves that democracy works.

And we can come together and get big things done. And I look around and see such brave survivors sitting out here in the rose garden, public servants who devoted their lives to dealing with this, advocates who feel strongly and are pushing every day to make the rational changes and courageous parents and family members.

I know the progress even in this most difficult of issues is possible. So folks, this is just the start. We've got a lot of work to do. But I know almost every one of you sitting in the garden here, none of you ever given up. We're not going to give up now.

The idea that we have so many people dying every single day from gun violence in America is a blemish on our character as a nation. We say to all of you, god bless you, but most importantly, the memory of all many of you have lost senseless gun violence.

And now I'd like to hand it over to the Attorney General for him to speak and make some comments. And hope I get a chance to see somebody after this is over. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

MERRICK GARLAND, ATTORNEY GENERAL: Thank you, Mr. President and Madam Vice President. We stand here today, not at a moment of tragedy but in the midst of an enduring tragedy. So far this year, guns have taken the lives of an estimated 11,000 of our neighbors, friends and fellow Americans.

As the president explained, gun deaths in our country are occurring at a staggering pace. On the order of about 100 Americans killed every day with hundreds more wounded. I am under no illusions about how hard it is to solve the problem of gun violence.

And I know that the department of justice alone cannot solve the problem. It is a problem that we must all work on together in the collective effort to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and save lives. But there is work for the department to do and we intend to do it.

Today, the department of justice is announcing several steps that we will take to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and reduce the risk of gun violence. First, we will ensure that we understand and measure the problem of criminal gun trafficking in a data driven way.

Over 20 years ago, ATF undertook a gun trafficking study. It then issued a report that provided information necessary to better understand and to combat criminal trafficking networks. No such study has been conducted since that time.

Accordingly, I have directed ATF to begin work on an updated study of criminal gun trafficking, one that will take into account the fact that modern guns are not simply cast or forged anymore. But can also be made of plastic, printed on a 3D printer or sold in self assembly kits.

We will evaluate how some of our best tools including the national integrated ballistic information network and the national tracing center are keeping up with the times. And we will analyze our criminal cases and investigations to determine what they can show us about modern gun trafficking patterns.

We expect that the lessons from this study will help agents, prosecutors and policymakers tackle modern criminal gun trafficking enterprises. Second, we will close a regulatory loophole that has contributed to the proliferation of so called ghost guns.

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Federal law requires that manufacturers mark all firearms with serial numbers, so they can be traced if they are used in crimes. It also requires licensed firearms dealers to run background checks to ensure that individuals who are barred by law from purchasing firearms cannot do so.

The emergence of ghost guns threatens both of these important law enforcement objectives. Currently, individuals can buy kits that contain all or almost all of the parts they need to assemble a gun, so they can put a working weapon together in as little as 30 minutes.

The kits are aptly called Buy Build Shoot kits. Yet, because of a gap in the ATF regulations, these kits may not be considered firearms. As a result, they're being made and sold without serial numbers and sold without background checks.

Within 30 days, ATF will issue a proposed rule to plug that gap and to enable law enforcement to trace crime guns and to keep guns from being sold to those who cannot lawfully possess them.

Third, we will make clear that statutory restrictions on short barreled rifles apply when certain stabilizing braces are added to high powered pistols. Federal law requires the taxation and registration of all short barreled rifles. It does so because these weapons are powerful, yet easily concealable.

Currently however, some manufacturers market and some individuals purchase certain kinds of stabilizing braces that when attached to a pistol effectively converted into a short barreled rifle, a weapon that is in the words of the statute, "intended to be fired from the shoulder".

Such braces make high powered pistols more stable and accurate, while still concealable. Within 60 days, ATF will issue a proposed rule that will make clear that when a device marketed as a stabilizing device effectively turns a pistol into a short barreled rifle. It is subject to the requirements of the statute. Fourth, we will publish model red flag legislation for states. Red flag laws as the president has explained, allow family members or law enforcement to petition for court orders that temporarily bar people in crisis from accessing firearms if they present a danger to themselves or to others.

19 states and the District of Columbia have already made this important step. Within 60 days, the justice department will publish model legislation that will make it easier for states that want to craft laws permitting such emergency risk orders to do so.

Fifth, we will empower our communities to combat and prevent gun violence. We all recognize that although law enforcement plays an important role. Gun violence is not a problem that law enforcement alone can solve.

Communities are an essential partner and asset and a source of resources and ideas. Those who are closest to the problem are a critical part of solving the problem. To that end, the justice department will make available over $1 billion in funding through over a dozen grant programs that can be used to support evidence based intervention strategies for reducing gun violence.

Such strategies include but are not limited to street outreach, violence interrupters and hospital based violence intervention services. I have directed our entire grant making components to come - to make community violence intervention and prevention of priority.

Finally, none of these measures or any of the other critical law enforcement work the department does with respect to illegal guns can be effectively carried out without strong leadership.

That is why the president has nominated David Chipman to be the next ATF Director. Mr. Chipman has come up through the ranks, spending 25 years in the trenches fighting illegal gun trafficking and criminal enterprises. His extensive experience--

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