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World Markets on Edge Voting Greece Vote; Woman's Shooting Brings Immigration to the Forefront; U.S. Wins World Cup. World Cup Most Watched Soccer Match in U.S. History; Record Crowds Await Pope Francis in South America. Aired 11:30a-12p ET

Aired July 06, 2015 - 11:30   ET

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[11:31:02] JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: Happening now, world markets on edge. Is this the beginning of a crisis? Is your 401K about to plummet? Greek voters took a vote and essentially told Europe to shove it, no bailout, at least not on Europe's terms. In the midst of all these chaos, what does the finance minister do, the guy who is supposed to be the steward of the economy there? He up and quits.

KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: So clearly there is not a clear path out of this debt crisis or how really even what the next step is going to be.

Joining us to discuss and hopefully shed some light on what's next for Greece -- tall order here -- chief business correspondent, Christine Romans; and Richard Quest, host of "Quest Means Business."

Richard, you're on the ground there. There were rallies, there's this vote, and then the finance minister decides this is a great time to look for employment elsewhere. Why is he out? What's the point?

RICHARD QUEST, CNN HOST, QUEST MEANS BUSINESS: Oh, well, that's because nobody liked him in Europe.

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And he was quite open. He says, his exact words were, "I wear the loathing as a badge of pride." In other words, the creditors, the Europeans, the Eurozone, the institutions, the IMF, they hated negotiating with him. They found him to be difficult. They found him to be hectoring, to lecturing. They found it very, very awkward. He broke all the rules. He recorded conversations. So the idea was now they've got this very strong mandate to go and negotiate. What he didn't want to do was become part of the problem. That's why he's up and gone. And if the rumors we hear are true of who they have replaced him with, he's a man well known and well liked in Brussels, and possibly, possibly, possibly a better chance of a deal.

BERMAN: So, Christine Romans, this guy quits and maybe that's actually a good sign for negotiations there. It may make things easier. It isn't to say I don't care about Greece and it's future, but I care a lot about the United States and its markets. We've been poised on this precipice, is this going to drag everyone down, but so far it hasn't. CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN CHIEF BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: U.S. markets have

been resilient. That finance minister has called himself an erratic Marxist. Now there's a hope this will get resolved. We're a step closer to at least getting this resolved or at least not going into a backward slide. Why does it matter for Americans? You're 401K could be affected. If this causes an existential crisis in Europe, that would be bad for U.S. workers, companies that make things to sell to the Eurozone. The Eurozone is America's largest trading partner. It affects travelers. Right now the Euro is plunging against the dollar. As the dollar gets stronger, that's good for you as a traveler if you're going to Europe for the summer, not good if you're trying to sell things, makes your stuff more expensive.

For the fed, there could be -- this is how it would affect your money for the fed. What if the fed had to delay a rate hike because of uncertainty in Europe. Interest rates would stay low and it would be longer before you could start getting back to normal interest rates.

BOLDUAN: Richard, U.S. markets aren't freaking out but by and large everyone -- not by and large, everyone has to agree Eurozone is in unchartered territory here. There's no framework of how to deal with this. So what do you think is going to happen?

QUEST: They are making it up as they go along, literally.

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There is no doubt about it. And what they're doing, so, you know, so now the rest of Europe is trying to decide or the Eurozone to be more precise is trying to decide how to respond. That's why Merkel is visiting Hollande tonight. There's a full Euro summit tomorrow night, and there, they're all sort of dancing around the issue. They're saying it it's up to Greece to come with new proposals.

But here is the rub. Ultimately, if Greece doesn't come with the right proposals or if the other Eurozone partners say it's not good enough, then you are still looking at Greece having to issue a new currency. You are looking at an exit of the Eurozone. Still some way off, still some way off. But there is no question.

One European finance minister described it in a private tweet to me last night. He said, "It's a bloody mess."

[11:35:29] BERMAN: Thank you for sharing that private tweet now with our millions of viewers.

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Richard Quest, an idea of what the situation is there in Greece, Christine Roman, the U.S. markets here, really appreciate it, guys.

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BOLDUAN: Coming up for us, a stunning admission the undocumented immigrant accused of hilling a woman in a popular San Francisco tourism spot. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you shoot Kate Steinle?

FRANCISCO SANCHEZ, UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANT & ALLEGED SHOOTER: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You did shoot her?

SANCHEZ: Uh-huh.

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BOLDUAN: What he would say to the victim's parents in court. That's next.

BERMAN: And then the leader of the Catholic Church -- man, oh, man -- the rock star treatment for Pope Francis.

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BERMAN: You're looking at live pictures right now of just his remarkable greeting. He will speak in just a few minutes. We will give you a preview of what he will say. Will he continue to stir controversy wherever he goes?

Stay with us.

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BERMAN: A simply awful story is adding fuel to the immigration debate this morning. A young woman, she was gunned down while walking on a busy San Francisco pier. Her stunned father saw her fall to the ground.

BOLDUAN: Just unimaginable, the man who is accused of firing the deadly shot is an undocumented immigrant who has been deported five times back to Mexico.

CNN's Dan Simon has the story.

[11:40:02] DAN SIMON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: John and Kate, this story is really going to galvanize critics of America's immigration system. Here you have this guy, a repeat felon, who was deported five times to his native Mexico, yet somehow he's able to freely roam San Francisco streets, get a hold of a gun, and shoot and kill a woman.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you shoot Kate Steinle, the lady who was down on pier 14?

SANCHEZ: Yes.

SIMON (voice-over): Confessing to homicide, 45-year-old Francisco Sanchez is behind bars in California this morning, but he shouldn't be in the United States at all. Sanchez is an undocumented immigrant and repeat felon.

The victim is 31-year-old Kate Steinle, killed with a single gunshot to the chest at a popular San Francisco pier last Wednesday.

JIM STEINLE, FATHER OF KATE: She was fighting, then gasping for every breath.

SIMON: Kate's father, who was with her, says no words were exchanged between Sanchez and his daughter. Officials say this was a random act of violence.

JIM STEINLE, FATHER OF KATE: I have a little solace that I was with her, but I also have the overwhelming grief of a father.

SIMON: Sanchez has been deported five times to Mexico. In a jailhouse interview with CNN affiliate, KGO, he says the lure of a paycheck kept him returning.

SANCHEZ: I'm looking for a job in a restaurant or roofing, landscaping or construction.

SIMON: The shooting quickly seized on by Donald Trump, the GOP presidential hopeful who made headlines for his inflammatory remarks about Mexican immigrants. He said, "The tragic shooting is, quote, "yet another example of why we must secure our border immediately."

Sanchez was held on an outstanding drug charge back in March but that charge was dropped and San Francisco officials said they had no legal basis to hold him. Under the city's so-called sanctuary law, they didn't transfer him back to immigration officials either because there is no warrant or judicial order for his removal. So on April 15th, Sanchez was released.

SANCHEZ: I'm sorry for everybody.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Including Kate Steinle's family?

SANCHEZ: Yeah.

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SIMON: Prior to wandering to that tourist area, Sanchez says he popped some sleeping pills that he found in a dumpster. Then he says he found the gun wrapped in a T-shirt and then it went off accidentally.

But we should point out that he reportedly told police originally that he was aiming for sea lions.

John and Kate, back to you.

BERMAN: Just an awful story. Our heart goes out to that family.

Dan Simon, thanks so much.

BOLDUAN: Coming up for us, huge crowds are gathering right now. BERMAN: Oh, wow.

BOLDUAN: Look at this. I think we're seeing -- guys, these are live? Live pictures of Pope Francis, essentially doing what he does best, working the crowd and getting right in there and meeting folks. A rock star's welcome in South America. We're going to have much more on that, what's expected, and the pictures you just want to see.

BERMAN: A million people expected there.

And then they won on the field, and they also, they're winning at life. Look at this. This is a heartfelt moment that goes way, way beyond sports. We'll tell you how Carli Lloyd doesn't just score goals at will. She'll also make your heart sing with this.

Stay with us.

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[11:46:50] BOLDUAN: So not only did they win in spectacular fashion in the World Cup final last night, but also they were really, really winning when it comes to people watching the match. The numbers are in, and it was the most watched soccer watch ever in the United States on a single network.

BERMAN: Ever, ever. We're talking men, women, humans playing soccer, the most watched ever. Team USA destroyed Japan, 5-2. We are the World Cup champions, and the victory was full of firsts, the first hat trick and the fastest goal, both by Carli Lloyd. The most goals ever in a World Cup final, three of them by Carli Lloyd.

And you know what though? She doesn't just score shocking goals, like that one which will go down in history, she's also just a wonderful human.

There was a gesture during the game that really was just so lovely. It had to do with the person considered to be the heart and soul of the team, Abby Wambach. I asked her about it earlier.

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CARLI LLOYD, TEAM USA SOCCER PLAYER: We had been working on set pieces throughout the tournament, and it was something that we were doing the first corner we got, and I just attacked the ball and went through it and couldn't believe it went in after three minutes in and then to get another one soon after that and another one soon after that in the first 16 minutes.

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Just a pretty crazy start to the game.

BERMAN: I'll say.

I have never seen anything like it. You know, I watch a lot of soccer. I have never seen 16 minutes like that ever. And I understand besides being able to score at will, you also have powers of magic.

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You had a premonition. You visualized this game before hand, but in your visualization before hand, you thought you were going to score four goals.

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So my question to you this morning, you must be incredibly disappointed this morning.

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LLOYD: Yeah, I guess I wasn't good enough, huh?

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LLOYD: The mind is everything, and, you know, it's just -- I have had dreams of this, you know, as a younger player, of being a part of a World Cup team and playing in a World Cup final. I mean, that's every soccer player's dream, to win a World Cup, and we just made history tonight.

BERMAN: I have 8-year-old twin boys, and this weekend they were outside playing soccer. They're soccer fanatics. And one saying, "I'm Alex Moore," and the other saying, "I'm Carli Lloyd." You have captivated boys and girls across the country. It's got to be amazing.

LLOYD: It is. I mean, I think -- I have flown under the radar for a majority of the time with this team, and I have just put my head down, I have gone to work. I have worked hard. I do all the right things on and off the field, and just want to be a good role model to all the young kids and boys out there as well just to teach them the importance of doing all the right things in order to accomplish your dreams.

BERMAN: You know, one of my favorite moments wasn't even a sports moment. It was when Abby Wambach came in, off the bench. You had been captain of that matchup until that point. You took the arm band off and you gave it to her. She said, "No, no, no, don't do it, Carli." How did you convince her and why?

[11:50:06] LLOYD: Well, she told me, no, no, just leave it on, and I said, all right, she's not going to take it unless I actually take it off of my arm band and put it on her. So that's what I did. It wasn't because it was the right thing to do. I wanted to do it. She's a legend. This is her last World Cup game and it was something special, because she has inspired so many of us on and off the field throughout her career.

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BOLDUAN: That's one pretty cool chick.

BERMAN: So cool. Winning isn't just a score sometimes. You can win bigger than a game.

BOLDUAN: She's a very good example of being awesome.

What is also awesome is a whole lot of people watched this. As we mentioned earlier, the thrilling final match was the most-watched soccer match ever in the U.S. on a single network. It sure looked like that if you were looking on social media, too.

Let's discuss what this means with senior media correspondent, Brian Stelter.

The numbers are in, they're big.

BRIAN STELTER, CNN SENIOR MEDIA CORRESPONDENT & CNN HOST, RELIABLE SOURCES: Yeah, you're right. Twitter was blowing up. Facebook was blowing up. Viewers were drawn to the television by those first few goals, then they stayed the whole time. It looks like when the final ratings come in we'll have 20 to 23 million viewers. That's bigger than the World Series, bigger than the NBA finals, bigger than 1999 win. So they're showing the growth of soccer through 1999, which was a huge rating at the time versus now. A 27 share is an early number. That means 27 percent of people with all TVs were watching this game. Even the biggest shows on TV only get an eight or nine or 10 share these days. The trend in TV is we're all watching our own thing. But live sports is different. Everybody was watching this.

BERMAN: This was live sports.

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BERMAN: This was great sport and it transcended gender.

STELTER: It shows some parity between women's and men's sports. I saw people commenting about how great it was to have this demonstration to young women and to young men, frankly, on both sides of that.

BERMAN: No joke, I went outside this weekend and my boys were playing soccer and they were saying, "I'm Alex Morgan. I'm Carli Lloyd." I'm going, "Oh, my god." They were just doing it. They loved.

STELTER: It I was struck by the fact that we had those goals early on which drove people like me to the TV. I thankfully got there for the second goal. People stayed the whole time. Sometimes rates will drop off if it looks like they will win. People watched the whole game. The peak, the final was the most popular part of the game when they held up the trophy. People wanted to see these women celebrate their victory at the end of the game.

BOLDUAN: They well deserved a good celebration. Those numbers are something to celebrate, too.

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BERMAN: All right. It is a huge crowd for Pope Francis. We're talking a million people expected. You're looking at live pictures. A small handful. Multiply this group by 500,000, you get the scope of what he will face. He's speaking in a short time. We'll give you a preview of what will be a very dramatic moment, coming up next.

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[11:56:45] BERMAN: An epic crowd is gathering at this moment. Pope Francis scheduled to speak in just a few minutes to a million people, maybe more. He is in Ecuador. It's the first stop on a crucial papal road trip.

BOLDUAN: This is Pope Francis's first visit to his native South America in two years. His message is expected to be one of compassion for the weak and poor and one of the poorest nations in South America. And to reiterate John's point, this is a message he's going to be delivering before a crowd of a million people. That's just amazing.

CNN religion commentator, Father Edward Beck, is joining us with more.

That is a message to be -- a million people really kind of coming out to see him. I guess you could have maybe expected nothing less as he's returning to his native South America but his message is one you think is very important.

FATHER EDWARD BECK, CNN RELIGION COMMENTATOR: And Ecuador is the perfect place to begin. His message, care of the environment and care of the poor, and both are being challenged right now in Ecuador. It's the most bio-diverse country in the hemisphere, yet those natural resources, critics say, have been depleted. They're drilling, overmining. Last summer, they began drilling in the national park, to the decry of many of the people. So how do you care for the poor? President Correa said the reason we're doing it is because we have so many in poverty and he, in fact, lifted a million and a half people out of poverty through the oil drilling. But then the crude prices fell as did the poor and now his critics are saying what are you going to do now? So the pope has this delicate balance, care of the poor, which President Correa says he has, and care of the environment without depleting natural resources.

BERMAN: Interesting as he tries to connect with people at the large level. But after, that he's going to have a meeting with just one person that's very, very special.

BECK: It is special. He hasn't seen this person in 30 years, nor has he spoken with him. This is Father Cortes, affectionately known as Paquito. That's what the pope calls him. 30 years ago, he was a seminary professor, and the pope used to send the seminarians from Argentina to study with Father Paquito. And someone in Rome recently and saying, "The pope is going to come see you." And he said "I haven't seen anymore 30 years, I didn't think he would remember me. They said, "He will see you when he comes to Paraguay, he'll have lunch with you." So going from one million-plus people to one person. That says something about this pope, right?

BERMAN: Touching lives at every level.

BECK: Exactly. BOLDUAN: Just amazing. To be in that lunch. You can imagine what they're going to talk about. This is a man who now can say that I know a pope. He's 19 years old. He's lived his entire life serving his community and now he'll sit down with the pope himself.

BECK: And a fellow Jesuit, which is important. That brotherly bonding.

BERMAN: A few seconds left, Father. Is this a preview of what we'll see in the United States or will he bring a different message to the United States when he comes in the fall?

BECK: He's going to still talk about the environment and social justice. Remember, capitalism thrives in the United States. His resent encyclical is very critical about unbridled capitalism. So you'll expect, especially in that speech before Congress and Washington, he's going to challenge those politicians, how do address this issue.

BERMAN: Father Edward Beck, great to have you with us. Thanks so much.

BECK: Pleasure.

BOLDUAN: Great to see you.

Thank you all so much for joining us AT THIS HOUR.

BERMAN: "LEGAL VIEW" with Ashleigh Banfield starts right now.