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Jindal Enters GOP 2015 Race; Lessons From Olympic Bomber; Boston Bomber Apologize for "Damage I Have Done"; A Support Program for Alzheimer Caregivers. Aired 9:30-10a ET
Aired June 25, 2015 - 09:30 ET
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[09:30:00] JEFF ZELENY, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: But that was just at the beginning of the video that he played yesterday before he came out to address this. I think a couple of things. One, they wanted to show that he was a family man. It wasn't about him necessarily because people know what Bobby Jindal looks like. I think they wanted to point out, you know, that, you know, he is a father of three. He's married. And he is also pointing out he's the youngest person in this Republican field. He's 44 years old. He's two weeks younger than Marco Rubio, actually. He was born just a couple of weeks after that. But he's also trying to show that he's a fresh face of the Republican Party.
He gave a very interesting speech when he was announcing. He went after some Republicans. But he also tried to show that he would be a new brand, a new face of the Republican Party. He said something very interesting. Let's take a listen.
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GOV. BOBBY JINDAL (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: In case it's not clear by now, I am running for president without permission from headquarters in Washington, D.C. But rest assured, I am tanned (ph), rested and ready for this fight.
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ZELENY: He's tanned, rested and ready. And what he meant by that was, that was his way of saying that he would add a bit of diversity to the Republican Party too. He was the first Indian-American governor in the U.S. His ancestors are from India. And he would -- he's running to be the first Indian-American president. Kind of an interesting way to point out his biographical differences with the rest of this very large Republican field, Carol.
CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR: Well, and as you might imagine, Sara, Twitter went crazy upon those words, I'm tanned, rested and ready. The first thing that pops up when you put Bobby Jindal into the Twitter is the #bobbyjindalissowhite.
SARA MURRAY, CNN POLITICAL REPORTER: Yes, probably not the reaction that the Jindal campaign was going for. But as you said, the Internet can be a very cruel place, and this is how they've chosen to respond. The interesting thing is, as Jeff points out, Bobby Jindal does inject some diversity into the GOP field. But that's not the area of voters he's trying to appeal to right now. When you listen to his speech, he talked a lot about how we need to not be, you know, hyphenated Americans. We all just need to be American, not Indian-American, not African-American and that immigrants need to better assimilate with society.
Now, that's not a pitch that is going to bring in new voters, that's going to bring in minorities. That is a pitch to the core of the Republican Party, to the folks who think that if you come to America, you should immediately speak English and you should act like every other white person in America.
COSTELLO: Sort of what Donald Trump has been trumpeting, right? Because I wanted to bring up Donald Trump because there's an interesting poll out from Fox News and I'm going to read this for you, Jeff. "Donald Trump continues to create headaches for the GOP field. He's now second in a national poll from Fox News behind Jeb Bush and one of only three Republican candidates in double digits." But the intriguing number here is behind the headline. "Despite that second place showing, only 29 percent of GOP primary voters consider him a serious candidate." What do you make of that, Jeff?
ZELENY: That's right. I mean one of the reasons he is so high, his numbers are so high compared to the other Republicans, is that he's well known. He's a known quantity. And, Carol, it's also a bit of a none of the above response to these pollsters because people are not sure who they want to be president, so they're picking Donald Trump. He is talking a lot of -- you know, about what people want to hear. They don't like Washington. The electorate is unhappy with normal politicians. So he fits that bill.
But the reality is, at the end of the day here, he is most likely the candidate of the summer of 2015. A bit of a protest candidate, if you will. He has also very high marks among Republicans who say they would never, ever vote for him. But make no mistake, Carol, he will be a factor in this race because he is criticizing other Republicans and he -- you know, particularly Jeb Bush. So he will be a factor in this race.
COSTELLO: See, Sara, I think that some Republican voters probably want him to participate in that first debate in August on Fox News so he can put those other candidates' feet to the fire.
MURRAY: Yes, and I think that that is the real concern that we are hearing from Republicans. It's not that they're worried Donald Trump is going to win a state. It's not that they're worried Donald Trump is going to win the nomination. It's that he could and probably will be, if he stays in, on that debate stage and then other candidates, serious, credible presidential candidates, lose the opportunity to have that big break-out moment. Can you imagine a situation in which a Scott Walker or a Marco Rubio or an even -- even a Jeb Bush is able to have a break-out moment when they're up against reality TV show star Donald Trump? It is very difficult to see how that happens.
COSTELLO: Yes. Well, it will be an interesting debate to watch, that's for sure, if Donald Trump takes part. Jeff Zeleny, Sara Murray, thanks to both of you. I appreciate it.
[09:34:56] Still to come on the NEWSROOM, on the run, hiding in the woods. We'll take a look at the five-year pursuit of the Olympic Park bomber and the lessons that resonate today.
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COSTELLO: In New York, the search for those two escaped killers is nearing its third week. Think that's long? Another high profile manhunt dragged on for five years. Eric Rudolph also took to the woods after being identified as the deadly Olympic Park bomber. Though more skilled in survival tactics than the escaped killers, his half decade on the run offers striking parallels. CNN's Rosa Flores has more for you.
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ROSA FLORES, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): He killed three people, injured dozens and terrorized the nation in the 1990s. Eric Rudolph, better known as the Olympic Park bomber, made the FBI's 10 most wanted list after bombing Centennial Olympic Park during the 1996 Summer Olympics and later bombing two abortion clinics and a lesbian bar.
[09:40:14] Former CNN producer Henry Schuster and co-author of "Hunting Eric Rudolph" followed every step of the manhunt.
HENRY SCHUSTER, CO-AUTHOR, "HUNTING ERIC RUDOLPH": He was smart. He was sly.
FLORES: Rudolph, a known loaner, survivalist and trained Army vet managed to evade authorities for five years in the thickly-wooded Appalachian wilderness of North Carolina. Early on, authorities say he never stayed in a camp for too long, always on the move and one step ahead of search teams.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Everybody's watching their houses.
FLORES: Nearby residents were on alert while hundreds of agents combed the woods looking for tracks around water sources and inside caves. But the trail ended cold year after year.
SCHUSTER: Eric Rudolph had home field advantage. He'd been playing in these woods since he was a kid. He camped in them when he was a teenager. He knew these woods intimately.
FLORES (on camera): Rudolph was spotted in July of 1998. He turned up at the home of the owner of a health food store trying to buy food. The owner recognized him and refused. But when the owner returned two days later, he found that 75 pound of food and his truck were missing. On the table, five $100 bills.
FLORES (voice-over): Authorizes say Rudolph killed and ate turkeys, deer, bears, salamanders and stole corn, soybeans, and other grain from bins at a giant corn field. To stay warm during bitter cold winters, authorities say he would break into cabins and bundle himself up in piles of leaves. SCHUSTER: Eric Rudolph was living off the grid before he actually had
to go off the grid. It was as if he had been prepared for this.
FLORES: Despite years of searching for Rudolph deep in the woods, he was finally arrested dumpster diving in the back of a grocery store, looking for fruits and vegetables to freeze for the winter.
SCHUSTER: It was luck. They had given up the hunt. They had given up the chase. And he fell into their laps.
FLORES: After his arrest, Rudolph described his chase with police as a long camping trip that lasted five years.
Investigators in upstate New York hunting for David Sweat and Richard Matt hope it takes significantly less than half a decade to catch these two wanted fugitives.
Rosa Flores, CNN, New York.
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COSTELLO: And still to come on the NEWSROOM, the Boston Marathon bomber speaking out for the first time, apologizing to the victims of his terror attack. Hear his words, next.
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[09:47:21] COSTELLO: Dzhokhar Tsarnaev has been sentenced to death for his role in the Boston Marathon bombing. But before that announcement was made, Tsarnaev addressed survivors and expressed remorse for what he's done. His words sparking a range of emotions from those in attendance. CNN's Deborah Feyerick has more for you.
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DEBORAH FEYERICK, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Sentenced to die by execution, Marathon bomber Dzhokhar Tsarnaev at last broke his silence, telling the court, in his words, "The bombing, which I am guilty of -- if there's any lingering doubt about that, let there be no more. I did that along with my brother."
Dressed in a dark suit and speaking in a heavily affected accent, the 21-year-old convicted terrorist apologized, saying, "I'm sorry for the lives I have taken, the suffering I have caused, the damage I have done."
To the prosecutors and some victims, his words rang hollow.
LYNN JULIAN, MARATHON BOMBING SURVIVOR: I regret having ever wanted to hear him speak, because what he said showed no remorse, no regret, and no empathy for what he's done to our lives.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What I was struck more was by what he didn't say. He didn't renounce terrorism. He didn't renounce violent extremism. FEYERICK: Amputee Rebecca Gregory spoke defiantly to Tsarnaev,
referring to him in his holding cell, Gregory smiled. "It's so funny that you smirk and flip off the camera," she said. "I feel that's what we're doing to you. When people think back, they won't remember your name or your brother's."
Some victims forgave Tsarnaev. Others, like the parents of 8-year-old Martin Richard choosing to honor their son's short life by rejecting Tsarnaev's message. "He chose hate. He chose destruction. He chose death. We choose love. We choose peace."
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COSTELLO: Deborah Feyerick reporting. I'll talk to a survivor of the Boston Marathon bombing; that's coming up in the next hour of NEWSROOM.
Checking some other top stories for you at 49 minutes past. We could be just moments away from two big decisions out of the U.S. Supreme Court on same-sex marriage and the fate of Obamacare. They are two of seven cases in the nation's highest court as the term winds down. The Court is considering whether states can legally ban same sex marriage. It's also determining if the federal government can provide health insurance tax breaks to millions of people. The decisions are expected either today, tomorrow, or Monday.
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CROWD (chanting): Take it down! Take it down! Take it down!
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COSTELLO: Calls to take down the Confederate flag echoing across the country in the wake of Charleston. Why some say the American flag is next.
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[09:55:13] COSTELLO: The strain of Alzheimer's diagnosis extends well beyond the patient. Dr. Sanjay Gupta looked -- joins us with -- actually he joins us with a look at a program aimed at helping caregivers as well as patients. Hi, Sanjay.
DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: You know, Carol, it's not often that we get such an intimate look inside the world of Alzheimer's. Even rarer to see the daily struggles of those living with the more advanced stages of the disease and the people who care for them. But that is exactly what you're about to see.
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GUPTA (voice-over): For Joe Fabbiano, every morning is the same.
JOE FABBIANO, WIFE HAS ALZHEIMER'S: One more.
GUPTA: After helping to bathe and dress his wife Anita, who was diagnosed with early onset Alzheimer's in 2008, he guides her through their familiar home of 45 years over to the kitchen.
J. FABBIANO: Take three at a time.
GUPTA: Pills are doled out.
J. FABBIANO: Take the water, please. Take the other three.
GUPTA: Breakfast is made.
J. FABBIANO: And your coffee here. At the same time.
ANITA FABBIANO, ALZHEIMER'S PATIENT: And this one here.
J. FABBIANO: Go ahead.
A. FABBIANO: And now what?
J. FABBIANO: Bite away.
GUPTA: And then the same conversation begins again.
J. FABBIANO: Once a week we go to our singing group, which Anita gives me a hard time.
A. FABBIANO: And I'm not going.
J. FABBIANO: No, you are going.
GUPTA: It wasn't always this way.
A. FABBIANO: The singing, it really is uplifting. You go home and, you know, you're singing in your head.
GUPTA: Anita used to love singing with Joe at the Unforgettables. That's a choir designed to support those living with Alzheimer's.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Social support is the key ingredient in maintaining well-being. Not only of the caregiver, but of the person with dementia.
GUPTA: Yet, as Anita's Alzheimer's progresses, Joe may soon lose one of his few remaining outlets. Anita's identical twin, Vita, who does not have Alzheimer's, stops by as often as she can to take the couple out to lunch. VITA: Anita, we're going to walk outside now.
GUPTA: But the process of getting Anita out of the house --
VITA: We're going to walk to my car now. We're walking to my car now, OK? Go ahead. It's just puddle. Go ahead. Just keep moving your feet.
GUPTA: -- and into the restaurant --
VITA: Move your feet, girlie, move your feet.
GUPTA: -- is exhausting for everyone.
VITA: We're going to have lunch.
GUPTA: Anita and Joe's 3 and 4-year-old grandchildren do offer some distraction. Daughter Stephanie and son-in-law Scott are living at the house right now. But when everyone is off to school and work, it's only Joe, and he finds it difficult to ask for help.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Anita, nice to see you again.
GUPTA: Enter a counselor from the NYU Spouse/Caregiver Intervention Project. For nearly 30 years, this program has used government grants to provide individual and family counseling with scientifically proven results.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The primary caregiver, the spouse, do well, they were less depressed, they were more physically healthy, able to keep the person with dementia home for a year and a half more.
GUPTA (on camera): Which greatly reduces the cost of care. In fact, in one state where this has been implemented, the State of Minnesota, estimates are it could save nearly $1 billion in direct health care costs over 15 years.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't know. I'm doing the best I can.
GUPTA (voice-over): Like Joe, many caregivers feel awkward reaching out to family, and today's session is about teaching Joe how to ask for assistance.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I need a little help from you. I am not ending this session without one request and one way in which we can meet it.
GUPTA: It's a work in progress with three more family sessions yet to come and phone counseling available to the family as Anita progresses through the disease.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE Does every change break your heart?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. I don't think there's any -- no cure for that. I think what there is, is support for it.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Show Grandma if you could, because she loves the library.
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GUPTA (on camera): The NYU program is unique in its focus on family counseling, and over 18 years of research now proving how it can help caregivers like Joe. I'll tell you, it's currently available via grants in 11 states, but it is being turned into a computer-based model as well that could reach nationwide. Carol?
COSTELLO: All right. Sanjay Gupta, many thanks to you.
The struggle with Alzheimer's is at the center of our latest presentation. CNN Films presents "GLEN CAMPBELL: I'LL BE ME". It airs on Sunday, 9:00 p.m. Eastern on CNN.
Happening now on Capitol Hill, members of an IRS watchdog group are testifying before Congress. They're expected to tell a House Oversight Committee that there could be as many as 24,000 missing e- mails from former IRS official Lois Lerner. That's in addition to the 1,000 previously missing e-mails from their investigation that their investigation uncovered so far.
[10:00:00] Lerner, as you know, was at the center of allegations that the tax agency targeted Tea Party groups for extra scrutiny.
The next hour of CNN NEWSROOM starts now.
