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Forty-Seven Shootings in Chicago Despite Police Increase; Pope Francis Returns to Native South America; Greece Votes "No" on Economic Referendum; Tuesday Deadline for Iran Nuclear Deal; Palestinian Fears Certain Death If Deported. Aired 6-7p ET

Aired July 05, 2015 - 18:00   ET

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POPPY HARLOW, CNN ANCHOR: Top of the hour. I'm Poppy Harlow in New York.

And we begin this hour in Chicago, where it has been a deadly holiday weekend. Forty-seven people shot over the weekend in Chicago. Seven of those people were killed including a 7-year-old boy.

Just moments ago, Chicago Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy stood in front of a long table full of confiscated illegal guns and spoke passionately about what he calls a broken system.

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SUPERINTENDENT GARRY MCCARTHY, CHICAGO POLICE: I'm angry. I'm frustrated. And I'm frustrated and angry that we're here again talking about another senseless murder. Pick out the names, Hadiya Pendleton, Jonylah Watkins, the list goes on and on, this has got to stop.

We can put 10,000 police officers on the street and what would happen? Maybe we'll arrest Mr. Brown 90 times and nothing will happen. Maybe we'll take another 10,000 guns off the street and another 10,000 will fill up that illegal market the next day.

I'm incredibly proud of the men and women in this department who, in spite of what I'm talking about, go out every single day and do what they do. We need some help here, folks. We have to fix this broken system.

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HARLOW: CNN's Ryan Young joining us on the phone from Chicago. Also in Washington, former FBI assistant director and former police officer, Tom Fuentes.

Ryan, let me begin with you, the 7-year-old shot Amari Brown, 7-year- old shot. What do we know about him?

RYAN YOUNG, CNN CORRESPONDENT (via telephone): Well, this is what we know so far. He was trying to enjoy the fireworks celebration and, in fact, when that shooting started, his father is even quoted saying he didn't realize his son was start until he started asking for help. Apparently he was not the intended target.

Another woman was shot at the same time. She's 26. She survived.

But more than 40 people shot here. Of course, the 7-year-old Amari Brown being shot is something everyone is talking about here. Everyone is talking about the senseless violence. You see a lot of people who work in the community who were upset about this.

We've seen officers in the street, they have been working 12-hour shifts all across this city with a heightened presence of police officers, getting ready for the celebrations around here. There are so many things going on in the city.

But some of this violence has actually happened right in front of officers. This one shooting happened in this crime spree since Thursday that happened right in front of an officer. So, it seems almost like they're helpless to respond to some of these incidents. And that's why you can hear the superintendent that he needs help from the community and talks about the guns flowing through the area.

This is all but happening since Thursday. And just talking to officers on the street, most of them saying they haven't seen the violence on certain sections of the city but, of course, there are other parts of city where they've seen the violence and that uptick with 40 people shot and, of course, everyone focusing on the 7-year- old whose father they're now saying is a known gang member and he may have been the intended target of the shooting.

HARLOW: Absolutely tragic. His family calling this little boy, Amari Brown, a jokester and sweet, sweet little boy.

I mean, Ryan, you're on the streets there, you live there, you're based there.

Does the community also feel as desperate and helpless as what we heard from the superintendent there of the police.

YOUNG: You know, Poppy, I've been covering crime for quite some time. And just talking to the people who are in Chicago, they're frustrated. I mean, they're fed up to the point how many rallies can you have, how many times have the police chief step forward and say enough is enough?

But who's going to have -- have the tipping point to get the guns off the street where you don't have these shootings within the neighborhood. I mean, you look at last years statistics with the shootings, the idea that they've had so many.

And just this one fact stuck out to me -- since Friday, every hour officers here in Chicago have pulled an illegal gun off the street, one per hour. This is just amazing that they've been able to do that with all the officers.

We were actually in a park right now. And you can see all them spread out through the area. But if you have this violence and you have people literally walking up to folks and shooting them, what can you do? And I think that's the question that you have a community that's standing up and saying, hey, what more can happen here?

You know just recently there's been a lot of controversy about the movie "Chiraq" with Spike Lee coming in to do that movie. But then the idea, the title of that really lives on throughout the city, with people talking about all the violence, all the shootings and the gunfire.

Some folks said they heard fireworks last night. Well, I'll tell you, some communities here, they say the fireworks are every night.

[18:05:01] They're just shots being fired from guns.

HARLOW: Ryan Young joining us on the phone from Chicago.

Tom Fuentes, let's talk more about this. Before you were with the FBI, you were a cop, you were a police officer. We just heard the superintendent --

TOM FUENTES, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST: Also, Poppy, near Chicago, Chicago's my home town and my father and family still live there. I'm back there frequently. So, I'm very familiar with the problem that Chicago police are dealing with right now, trying to stop this.

HARLOW: And it has to pain you to see this happening.

We just heard this plea from the superintendent of the police there, Garry McCarthy, saying you can put 10,000 more officers on the street, and what's it going to do? What's going to happen? If that's not the answer, what's the answer?

FUENTES: Well, the reason he's saying that is the frustration that, as mentioned, they're taking one gun an hour off of people on the street. And, by the way, that's caused by stop and frisk, which everybody else seems to be protesting and have a problem with.

But the people in Chicago are begging for more police and more stop and frisk to take these guns away. And you know, the answer to that is that they're going to have to put them in jail, they're going to have to stop the illegal trafficking in weapons, they're going to have to close many of the loop holes that enable people to go to the gun shows and stock up, and then go into Chicago and sell them to all the gang members.

That's the same thing we see here in Washington, D.C., or Baltimore, New York, other cities where, you know, because of the loop holes people are able to get guns, buy them in quantity and sell them cheaply to gangs.

HARLOW: But, Tom, where has it gotten better? Is New York City, for example, a good example of where things have gotten better or any lessons that can be learned?

FUENTES: Well, I think the lessons that can be learned is that you're trying to combine community policing and community support of aggressive police action on the street which is what it's going to take to do this. You can see what happens if the police aren't very aggressive, very proactive, the hoodlums take over and run the streets at night.

Chicago, even with a very active police department, is still experiencing because they're overwhelmed by guns and gang members and the inability to correct that. And actually, Poppy, we're talking about the number of shootings over 40 this week or this weekend and eight killings. That's 30 percent better than last Fourth of July in Chicago, where there were more than 60 shootings and 11 people killed.

So, they actually have made an improvement by 30 percent over last Fourth of July weekend. So, that's the problem here is that they're aggressively trying to do it and many people in the community, especially the young mothers, are begging for more police in their neighborhood and they want the police to be more proactive.

HARLOW: I remember being in Chicago last summer reporting on some of this gang gun violence and interviewing someone who ran an ER there, saying, look, it gets even worse when the temperatures get hotter in the summer. You have more of these people out and this is what happens. Tragic.

Tom Fuentes, thank you very much.

I do want to turn to Ecuador, because we have live pictures of the Popemobile, the motorcade coming down in Quito, Ecuador, there. A lot of people giving Pope Francis a very warm welcome as he kicks off the first day of his three-nation tour across Latin America.

Looking at live picture of the Popemobile moving in and out. The crowds throwing flowers and confetti. The pope focusing this trip on the region's poorest, those forgotten, those on the margin. This at a time when the Catholic Church is seeing a decline in the number of participants in the religion, especially in Latin America.

Rosa Flores traveling with the pope, joining us now live.

Rosa, what are you seeing?

ROSA FLORES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: You know, Poppy, after a 13-hour flight and a short drive, the pope is making his way here to this neighborhood. Now, this is in downtown Quito. And he's going to be resting here for

the night. Take a look behind me. You can see that crowds have been gathering throughout the day to welcome the pontiff. And these people are not only here from Ecuador, if you look closely into the crowds, you'll also see flags from Argentina, from the pope's home of Argentina.

But this is a very symbolic trip for the pope because he has chosen three countries in South America, which is his home continent. And it also is the place where he has many friends, where he knows the language, he knows the culture.

And I can tell you by just standing here, Poppy, that you can feel this energy here in the crowd. We're starting to hear the helicopter overhead. Now, that's a sign that the pope is very close to us, because, of course, not only are they monitoring so they can give us a live picture but also for the safety and security of Pope Francis.

Now, he's the first Latin American pope, first pope to take the name of Francis, the first Jesuit pope. And it's very important for the people in this community, they told me, that this pope speaks their language.

[18:10:01] Of the 22 plus speeches he's going to make, he's expected to make off the cuff remarks and, of course, in the past we know that he's made remarks that are sometimes controversial. So, everybody's going to be waiting for those special moments.

I can tell you that in the brief remarks he made at the airport today, he did make notice that everyone in Ecuador has the support and the love and the joy of the church and his as well and he also sent a short message saying that he is asking everyone to give thanks for the little things in life, for the little things that sometimes we take for granted.

Now, Poppy, I can tell you that I'm starting to see a motorcade approach this intersection. Of course, we're expecting that motorcade to be ahead of the pope.

Now, what we are going to see is that the pope will not be riding the official Popemobile, which is a Mercedes Benz. That's parked in the Vatican. What you'll see here in Latin America is, in the case of Ecuador, it's a 4x4 Jeep that is not armored, we have learned from the organizers here. They actually just tweeted this out a little while ago. But it is outfitted for the pope. It's a Popemobile. It has a red carpet inside and also LED lights, which is very much in the message and on point with the pope of going green, the message of his encyclical.

HARLOW: Yes.

FLORES: And as you take another live look here --

HARLOW: Yes.

FLORES: -- you can see that the pope motorcade is approaching us to this intersection.

Now, why is he coming to this intersection, Poppy? Well, because the diplomatic mission of the Holy See is here. That's where the pope is resting for the night.

And I can tell you that I can see the pope right now, just meters from where I'm standing. He is approaching the crowd. I can see that he is greeting the crowd. The Popemobile moving very slowly as the 78- year-old pontiff greets the people of Ecuador.

Now, this is his home continent. This is a country where he has visited before. He has friends. He knows the language. He knows the people. And he is sending a message of peace and democracy in this country.

Again, if you're taking a live look right now and just joining us, you're taking a look at Pope Francis, the first Latin American pope here in his home continent in the country of Quito.

I'm going to let you have this moment just for yourself so you can enjoy Pope Francis in Latin America.

HARLOW: Rosa Flores, thank you very much. Those live pictures of Pope Francis as he greets thousands upon thousands of people who have welcomed him there in Quito, Ecuador. Rosa, thank you for that.

Coming up next, to Greece we go. Greek voters saying no to help from Europe because of the strict austerity measures that it would have come with. People filling the streets tonight in Athens, waving their country's flag. What this vote means for the future of Greece and the global economy, next.

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[18:16:38] HARLOW: With almost 95 percent of the vote tallied, all signs pointing to no in a Greek referendum on whether or not to accept a bailout from Europe. The vote could lead to the country's exit from the Eurozone. Greece's deputy interior minister saying Greece will negotiate a better deal with European leaders.

But this is the question: will those European leaders give Greece what it wants or are they fed up?

CNN's Richard Quest live tonight in Athens.

Richard, you've been there throughout. I think a lot of people were surprised at how overwhelming this no vote was. Where does Greece go from here?

RICHARD QUEST, CNN HOST, "QUEST MEANS BUSINESS": A lot of people were surprised. Everyone was surprised, Poppy. We've been talking about a margin for the yes or the no of maybe 2 percent to 3 percent. The margin is nearly 20 percent -- 39, to 40, to 60.

It is the most extraordinary referendum result for the no campaign that anybody had forecast. And tonight, we've heard from the Greek prime minister. We've heard from the finance minister.

But to your question about what Europe does, they don't really know. They are going to have a whole host of meetings on Monday and Tuesday. The Eurogroup, the European Commission, the ECB, there's going to be a European summit on Tuesday of European heads of government.

They have to now reconcile themselves, Poppy, with the fact that the -- that the Greek people have effectively flipped the bird, if you like, to Europe. They've stuck two fingers up at them. They've made it quite clear they will not put up with what they have been dealing with from Europe until now.

HARLOW: Right, because they do not believe that they should be subjected to such tough austerity measures, have to take such cuts in their pension.

But I wonder with such overwhelming support for Prime Minister Alexi Tsipras do the Greek people in some way is there a fear, Richard, that they may have been overpromised something by their prime minister that he cannot deliver to them?

QUEST: Ah, and there, Ms. Harlow, you have put your finger on the nub of the problem. I would have said -- yes, he has overpromised, he can't deliver opening the banks on Tuesday as he promised he would. He can't deliver or he can't necessarily deliver that this will be short lived except for one thing -- and this is the difference between now and five hours ago -- the sheer thumping size of that majority. The rest of Europe cannot preach the words of democracy out of one side of their mouth whilst ignoring this big vote on the other.

Now, to be fair, yes, they are democratic governments, too, and they can say they're 18-1. So they're initially in the very short term, I do think both sides have to come together and have a bash of sorting it out, but bad blood exists. Their trust is nonexistent. And it is by no means clear that a final deal can be done.

HARLOW: What about the people of Greece? Because beyond the politics, what matters most is the impact for the average citizen there in Athens and across the country.

[18:20:00] They wake up Monday morning. How is their life different? What changes for them?

QUEST: Well, first of all, the banks won't open on Monday. That's just about an impossibility. So, they've got a few more days of bank closures.

Secondly, the events of the last two or three weeks, particularly the bank closures, shutting down the economy, are going to have a terrible, terrible effect. It's the equivalent of the economy having a heart attack. I think it's going to take a long time to coalesce. The Greek people are looking at a long recession ahead of them.

Finally, I think you're looking at some form of aid package, humanitarian aid, gift from Europe, whatever you want to call it. You're looking at the Europeans having to put money into Greece short term immediately, gift not loan, with the view to helping the elderly, the pensioners, the infirmed, those who haven't. Because as the prime minister himself said tonight, Greece is facing a humanitarian crisis.

HARLOW: Wow. An extraordinary and shocking vote tonight in Athens.

Richard Quest, thank you very much.

Coming up next, we're going to talk about what it means for the global economy and the markets when they open tomorrow morning.

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HARLOW: Greece's prime minister speaking last hour calling the no vote a brave choice saying it proved that democracy cannot be blackmailed.

[18:25:04] Greece's opposition leader, though, resigning today saying in a statement, it is time for the government to make good on its promises.

What does this mean for Greece and the Eurozone?

Rana Foroohar, CNN global economic analyst, joining me now.

Rana, look, we've seen the banks closing Greece for a week now and you've got the country overwhelmingly saying no, Europe, we don't want your bailout of our country because it comes with austerity measures, cuts to our pensions that are too tough. We do not have to swallow this. We will not tolerate it, frankly. They're saying that in overwhelming number.

What does that mean for the global markets?

RANA FOROOHAR, CNN GLOBAL ECONOMIC ANALYST: Well, it means that we're in for certainly a rough Monday. We'll see the kind of market jitters that we did last Monday when this latest ripple in this crisis really began. And I think that how the ECB, the European Central Bank behaves, whether it can stem any panic in the rest of Europe is going to be very crucial.

There are a number of ways that the European crisis can translate to global markets. One of them is that you'll see European stocks fall. You're going to see the euro weaken against the dollar. That's probably going to be good for the U.S. bond markets in some ways, but it could (AUDIO GAP) because when the dollar gets stronger, you have importers have a hard time selling their products into international market. That has a big impact.

Also, Europe is the U.S. largest trading partner. So if they start to really slow down and this crisis spreads, that could be bad news for our trade relationship with them.

HARLOW: I mean, it also brings up the future of the euro project as a whole and a domino process. If we see a, quote-unquote, "Grexit" or Greek exit from the Eurozone, what country could be next? FOROOHAR: That's right, Poppy. There's two countries that investors

are worried about. I expect bond spreads in both Italy and Spain to rise tomorrow. That happened last week. These are countries that have a lot of debt issues. They have a lot of populism in their government. In some ways, the same situation you've seen in Greece.

I don't think we're going to see these countries immediately stop to topple, but the fallout of Greece really calls into question this entire European experiment. How much can we trust the stability of the Eurozone? What does this mean for the euro, which is the second largest global traded currency other than the dollar? And what does this mean geopolitically?

If you start to see a fracturing in Europe, what does that mean for Europe's relationship with Russia? You know, if Greece falls out, where are they going to look for stability, Russia, China, possibly the Middle East. You've got the entire Balkans in play then.

HARLOW: And can you have a common currency with economies that are so different, when you look a German economy versus Greek economy from production, to output, to trade, to the unemployment crisis really there in Greece.

Rana Foroohar, great perspective. Appreciate it.

FOROOHAR: Thank you.

HARLOW: Coming up next, we're going to return to Chicago, a tragic and deadly weekend there. A 7-year-old boy shot and killed. Seven others killed while people were celebrating Independence Day. We're going to talk about that live from Chicago, next.

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[18:31:16] HARLOW: It was a deadly holiday weekend in Chicago. Seven people fatally shot this weekend including a 7-year-old boy. The police superintendent there says this all happened since Friday morning.

Police have been bringing in illegal guns every single hour. One per hour this weekend. 33 shooting incidents, 40 people injured, seven killed.

Let's go straight to Ryan Young who is on the phone with us from Chicago.

Ryan, just exasperation coming from the superintendent of police in Chicago.

RYAN YOUNG, CNN CORRESPONDENT (via phone): Without a doubt. I think a lot of people will be happy to see him so frustrated and kind of putting his feelings out there because so many people have been asking questions about when the violence will stop here in Chicago. And then when you focus on the fact that a 7-year-old boy named Amari Brown was just trying to watch fireworks, just like so many other people were doing here in Chicago, and then was shot in the chest and died. I mean, that has to hit anyone in the heart during America's

independence holiday for him to be sitting there watching the fireworks and then get shot in the chest. A 26-year-old woman was also shot. She did survive that same shooting. But when you talk about all the violence here and the fact that every single hour they've been able to find an illegal gun here in Chicago, you have all these officers working 12-hour shifts.

One of the shootings reportedly even happened right in front of an officer. So you can see the level of violence that's happening and then the frustration that just has to come out. And you hear the family speaking about Brown, just talking about how he was a prankster and had a big smile on his face. And you see that picture of his face. You've got to understand that maybe that family is just torn apart right now. And there's a lot of people in the city who are asking when is the violence going to stop -- Poppy.

HARLOW: Yes. Understandably so, they have absolutely had it.

Ryan Young, thank you.

Let's talk more about this with CNN law enforcement analyst Tom Fuentes, a former police officer right there near Chicago. Also with me CNN national security analyst Juliette Kayyem.

Juliette, let me begin with you. The police superintendent there coming out in this press conference today and talking about the difference because he's had top jobs in both New York and New Jersey, and he said the difference between those big cities and Chicago is guns. What do you make of that?

JULIETTE KAYYEM, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST: I think he's absolutely right. Look, we entered this week talking about ISIS and some sharks in North Carolina. But the real risks out there for most urban communities is guns. And to hear a superintendent essentially say that our laws are not strong enough for gun possession, in other words, these people have guns and yet they're not being sentenced or just simply there's no capacity to do so.

And also -- you know, just more permissive gun culture that exists in this country. When we talk about risks in this country, it is just clear, not just simply from this weekend, but if you just look at fatality rates that guns are the biggest threat to Americans from the homeland security perspective, from any perspective you look at it. And so it was good to hear the superintendent sort of go after not just a culture that accept guns but a nation that accepts the sort of permissiveness of gun culture.

HARLOW: Tom, he mentioned in these remarks, the superintendent of police there, Hadiya Pendleton, a name we've all come to know very well, another victim of gun violence, a young girl, 15-year-old girl in Chicago who performed at President Obama's inauguration, and he said, look, one of these shootings happened right next to the park named in her honor. Sort of -- I think that --

TOM FUENTES, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST: Right. HARLOW: What have we learned? What has changed?

FUENTES: Right. Hadiya went and performed in 2013 at the president's second inauguration. One week later she as back standing at that park which is at the corner of her house and her house is one mile from President Obama's Southside Chicago house. Two gang members ran across the park, shot her dead. Later they were caught by the police, 18 and 20-year-olds with guns, and said, well, we made a mistake. We thought it was a girl from a different gang. We just made a misidentification.

[18:35:07] And so the mother of Hadiya and others were on television, and I was home visiting my father in Chicago watching TV. And they were begging, they were crying and hysterical, saying we want more police. We love the police. We want them in our neighborhoods. We're afraid to send our kids in broad daylight to school. We have bullets coming through the walls of our homes at night. We have cars going down the street like the roaring '20s shooting guns at each other. We need the police, we want the police.

And I tried to tell that story a couple of times during the protests during Ferguson and some of the other protests just to point out the balance that these women are home -- in her case, she has five other kids. They're home with their kids at night. They're not out protesting police using aggressive stop and frisk. They're begging for it. They want more police and they want more proactive police tactics to try to fight this along with what it takes to take the guns off the street and take them out of the hands of these gang members.

HARLOW: And, Ryan, I want to go to you because it's important to put this in context. Within the same time period when you're looking at the holiday weekend, Fourth of July, last year, the statistics of the shootings were about double of what they are this year. They're still far too high. But you've got more police patrols on and you still have 33 separate shooting incidents. And that's why you have the superintendent reiterating this is not progress.

YOUNG: Yes. But, Poppy, I want to give you this headline from June 1st. It's something that I've circled in my mind since reading this before. 161 murders happen in the city of Chicago in 151 days. But that number sticks out in your head. It's unbelievable. And there are people who, you know, not only fear for, you know, just trying to get a job, but the idea of trying to stay safe and you're trying to keep children safe, the fact that a 7-year-old can't stand outside and look at fireworks and not, you know, fear that something's going to happen.

You know the nickname of the city, for some people, is Chi-Rock. You can understand there's frustration. In the neighborhoods they want something down. How do you curtail the violence? How do you get the guns off the streets? These are questions that people want to ask and I'm sure they're happy to see the police chief standing up there, showing his frustration, but imagine being in that neighborhood tonight where you hear gunfire all the time, and know that it's not going to stop overnight. What do you then?

HARLOW: Yes.

YOUNG: So there's a lot of questions I think people want answered. What's the magic solution for this? More officers? He says if I put 10,000 out there on the street, it's not going to help.

HARLOW: Right.

YOUNG: So you have serious questions and you want people who -- definitely want the answers to them.

HARLOW: So, Juliette, to that point, he himself is saying, the superintendent of police there, 10,000 more officers isn't going to do it. What cities do you think we've learned from that have done it right?

KAYYEM: Well, so it just depends given -- each city is going to be very, very different. So New York took a very sort of hands-on approach on, one would say, with a lot of criticism over time but of course their crime rate went down. Los Angeles has not had the same sort of problems, and then you look at smaller cities like Ferguson where you're seeing some of the reaction to it. So each city is going to be different.

For Chicago, one of the problems clearly as the superintendent was saying is the gun sentencing laws is that when someone is in possession of an illegal gun it appears that there's almost no penalty whatsoever. And so if you want to go against -- you know, instead of sort of worrying about drug use or what we're putting people into jail for, for 10 or 20 years, right, look at guns and the possession of guns and put those people away. And I think that that's where Chicago probably will be heading.

HARLOW: All right, Juliette Kayyem, Tom Fuentes, Ryan Young, thank you very much. Quick break. We'll be right back.

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[18:42:19] HARLOW: Secretary of State John Kerry said that the latest round of nuclear negotiations with Iran, quote, "could go either way." He said, "While there's been some progress there's still some major points of contention."

CNN global affairs analyst and correspondent Elise Labott is on the phone with me.

Elise, it's interesting, when you look at what and listen to what Kerry said, he sounds pretty cautious. And then you hear to Iran's foreign minister striking a much more positive tone saying Friday they have, quote, "never been closer to a deal." How do you read it?

ELISE LABOTT, CNN FOREIGN AFFAIRS REPORTER (via phone): Well, as Secretary Kerry, Poppy, also said, that's true, we've never been closer to a deal, but at the same time I think after you saw all these positive press stories over the last couple of days, I think what Secretary Kerry was trying to do is lower expectations, saying, listen, yes, a deal is close, but it's not guaranteed. It's true the parties still far apart. There was no progress over the

weekend on sanctions. And -- but there are still key areas, access to inspectors for Iran's military and nuclear sites as well as the case of development of nuclear technology that Iran can do throughout the deal. And still other things on sanctions, they are still far apart on this deal.

HARLOW: Yes.

LABOTT: So yes, Secretary Kerry is saying, you know, things are looking positive, but if you look at how much still has to be done, he said it's not guaranteed --

HARLOW: Right.

LABOTT: -- that a deal will be done by Tuesday, which is their new self-imposed deadline. If there's a deal they need to get that to Congress by Thursday, July 9th.

HARLOW: So --

LABOTT: So I think when Secretary Kerry looks at how much needs to be done, I think also what he was trying to do was give a little nudge to the Iranians that they --

HARLOW: Yes.

LABOTT: You need to make some serious decisions if you want to get this deal done -- Poppy.

HARLOW: Then let's talk about Congress, right? You have Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas coming out bashing the talks saying -- about Zarif, the Iran's foreign minister, saying, quote, "with his smug condescending tone shows just how far down the path we've gone towards Iran's position."

Do you get a sense that the administration is losing some support in Congress?

LABOTT: Well, I don't think they had much support in Congress to begin with. I think that what the administration was trying to do with Iran is to try and get everything that they want in a deal but -- have find a way to save face if you will and not look like they're capitulating to the Americans. And a lot of people say, listen, a lot of people in Congress say, look, Iran's the one that needs to deal, not the U.S., not the world powers.

HARLOW: Yes.

LABOTT: Why does the U.S. need to help Iran save face?

HARLOW: Right.

LABOTT: Why can't the U.S. come and look like it's a strong deal? But I think if you listen to what Senator Bob Corker said today, he's the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, he said the most important thing is to get a good deal. Don't worry about the July 9th deadline.

[18:45:13] HARLOW: Right. Right.

LABOTT: That was kind of -- if they pass that deadline, that would trigger a little bit longer of a review period, but I think the danger that they feel is if you're rushing to get a deal by the deadline and you don't have all your I's dotted and your T's crossed, then you're going to get into a Pandora's Box down the line when you try to get Iraq to implement the talking.

HARLOW: Elise Labott, reporting. We'll stay on top of it. Thank you very much.

Quick break. We'll be right back.

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HARLOW: Now a story you'll only see here on CNN. The grandson of the founder of Hamas saying that he's finally found safety after fleeing to Canada. He left his home in the West Bank after being persecuted for converting to Christianity and for being gay. His life may be in danger, he says, if he goes back, but Canadian authorities say he can't stay there because of his family's ties to terror. He says his fight to stay in Canada is a fight to save his life.

Here's CNN's Laurie Segall.

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LAURIE SEGALL, CNN MONEY TECH CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): This is Tuesday night for John Calvin, his favorite gay bar, his favorite people. Bingo and dancing in his current hometown in Edmonton, Canada. But for Calvin, it's bittersweet because it might not last. He's fighting to keep from being sent from Canada to the West Bank. He says it's also a fight to stay alive.

[18:50:11] (On camera): If you are sent back, what will happen to you?

JOHN CALVIN, FACING DEPORTATION TO WEST BANK: It's a certain death. It's -- that's undisputable fact. Literally as if my life is hanging by a thread.

SEGALL (voice-over): Calvin is a Christian convert. He's also gay. And where he comes from, he says that's a deadly combination. Calvin is the grandson of the co-founder of Hamas. He has five uncles, all in and out of prison for committing acts of terror.

CALVIN: My family was very, very extremist. Islam, Hamas were the two things that my family revolved around. Since I was 3 years old I was being taught the Quran and historical stories about the Jews have a plan to kill Mohammed.

SEGALL: Calvin says at 14 he ran away from home to get away from his family, illegally crossing the border to Israel. He was arrested and sent to an Israeli prison where he had an experience that changed his life.

CALVIN: I was sexually assaulted by another Palestinian fellow. Sorry.

SEGALL: It was his treatment after the attack that he says turned his core believes upside down. He says Israeli prison guards showed him compassion.

CALVIN: That was the big moment for me. That was the moment when I started breaking off from my beliefs.

SEGALL: When he came back home, he says he started looking for meaning outside of Hamas and found it in an unlikely place given his background -- Christianity. Calvin says when his father found out he tried to organize an honor killing.

CALVIN: My father have actually planned it, so I was to be put to death.

SEGALL: Calvin fled to Canada in 2010 where he applied for refugee protection, but that application was denied earlier this year. The reason? The very reason he said he left. Hamas.

NATHAN WHITING, CALVIN'S ATTORNEY: At the end of the day, if they determined that he is a member of a terrorist organization, then he simply can't claim any sort of refugee status.

SEGALL: The Canadian government cited his admission that he'd been a member, along with many in his family. He was ordered deported.

WHITTING: The evidence consisted of him essentially carrying some messages that he hadn't read from one of his uncles to another one of his uncles. There was evidence that someone had given him a handgun. But he certainly wasn't involved in any actual acts of terror.

SEGALL: We called Calvin's father. He denied being a member of Hamas and said he never tried to kill his son. But then he made a damming reference to Saddam Hussein's son-in-law, who was killed after he defected.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (Through Translator): Well, our family is no less dignified than Saddam Hussein's family. His fate may not be different than that traitor, General Hussein Kamel, who was the son-in-law of Saddam Hussein's.

SEGALL: The implications? He could be killed by the community.

Facing deportation, Calvin received another blow. His mother disowned him. She did it by text.

CALVIN: Don't call me again. I don't think I could lose anything more than that.

SEGALL (on camera): Than your mom?

CALVIN: No. It's -- no, I don't think so. SEGALL (voice-over): The Canadian government would not comment

specifically on John Calvin's case, but says a risk assessment is one of the safeguards to ensure people in need of protection are not removed. For Calvin's friends, it's unthinkable.

MARK CHIANG, CALVIN'S FRIEND: This is what we want to see people do. We want to see people who have a family history with Hamas and other organizations escape that and find safe places like what we have here. This is where he belongs.

SEGALL: Just weeks ago, he learned the date he'd have to leave, November 4th.

CALVIN: Not knowing if you if you're going to live or die on November 4th. That anticipation that you're going to die on November 4th.

SEGALL: So this admitted member of a Hamas family, who is now openly gay and a practicing Christian, likely will be deported unless Canada or another Western country believes him when he says he left Hamas behind when he left the West Bank.

Laurie Segall, CNN Money, Edmonton, Canada.

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HARLOW: Wow. What a story. Laurie, thank you for that.

Laurie will bring us the developments as we have them on that front. Quick break. We'll be right back.

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HARLOW (voice-over): Tucked away in the hill town of Darjeeling, a place synonymous for tea one plantation stands from the rest.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Welcome to Makaibari, the first tea factory in the world.

HARLOW: Founded in 1859 by G.C. Banerjee.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Makaibari commends the journey. Pioneering journey to make the first factory making tea. And the fourth generation here, so I'm a functioning heritage.

HARLOW: One hundred and fifty six years later, Rajah Banerjee had launched the family business into a multi-million-dollar brand. It's one of the fewest states in the country that has remained solely in Indian hands. His tea runs in high demand, producing 110 tons annually, 80 percent of which is exported around the world.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's a magical, mystical Himalayan hub. HARLOW: So unique that one of Makaibari's teas sold for $1850 per

kilogram last year to a Japanese client, marking it as the most expensive Indian tea. And to ensure the highest quality of this Darjeeling specialty is preserved, precision is everything.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Production from here, everything is challenging because if you go wrong in one place, you go wrong in every place.

HARLOW: But the final test of quality takes a trained palette.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Not quite.