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Ashley Madison Data Dump; Gas Prices Could Fall; Mayor Slams Walmart as Public Nuisance; Back in Court without Brady or Goodell. Aired 10:30-11a ET

Aired August 19, 2015 - 10:30   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.

[10:29:44] CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR: So where is this information?

LAURIE SEGALL, CNN TECH CORRESPONDENT: So this -- it started out on the dark web which is kind of difficult to access. It's like this deeper layer of the web.

But now what you're seeing, and this has happened in the last couple of hours, people are taking this data and making it easy to find on the open web.

Right before I jumped on set here with you I just found a site that enables people to put the e-mail of a cheater in and it will tell you if that person is in the database.

So there's another person who's trying to create a geo-located map. So we're just really, really beginning here.

COSTELLO: Wow. I just had Christina Warren from Mashable. She says she's already investigating because she wants to know, you know, if there are any interesting names, you know, on the list.

SEGALL: Yes. It's a little tempting when you're looking at all this and you're looking through. I mean there's something like 15,000 government e-mails on there. Now, we can't independently confirm that by any means. People could use a fake e-mail but I spoke to a security researcher who cross-referenced it with some of the geo- location data and said, you know a lot of it is really legitimate.

COSTELLO: Really. So I'm sure you're going through it yourself.

SEGALL: Yes, yes. This is true. I am looking through it for journalistic purposes. And when we talk about -- you know, who is behind this. We have to talk about the hackers. Because we think who could be capable of this. This is a sophisticated hack.

The guys behind this, they call themselves The Impact Team. This is their first very high-profile hack. And I just want to read you a little bit of their manifesto here, Carol, because it's interesting. They say "Find yourself in here, learn your lesson and make amends. Embarrassing now but you're going get over it."

So they're saying they're doing it for moral reasons.

COSTELLO: They're the moral police?

SEGALL: They're what they call -- they're calling themselves hacktivists and they say that they don't believe what Ashley Madison is promoting is OK, so they're going to hack to site to take it down. Of course, you have the folks from Ashley Madison saying believe what you want, it doesn't matter. This is a criminal act.

COSTELLO: So is it a criminal act and is Ashley -- I mean. And how do you find the people responsible?

SEGALL: It's really difficult. Right now they don't have any leads on who's behind this. And you know, when you look at this hack -- and this is a criminal act but what we're seeing is this breed of hacktivists.

Now remember what the Sony hack -- what happened. You had these hackers saying we don't want you to release this movie, "The Interview". But if you do, we're going to put this information out there. This is in the same tier where they say we don't believe in what you're doing. So if you don't stop, we're going to put all of this personal information out there.

I don't know how Ashley Madison is going to deal with the damage that has been done because not only is it personal information on a very secretive Web site -- a Web site that sells this idea of secrecy. It's also a lot of internal company data. We're talking bank account information, employee information. It's going to be -- this is going to be a big black eye.

COSTELLO: Yes, a big mess. Laurie Segall -- thanks so much. I appreciate it.

SEGALL: Thanks.

COSTELLO: Still to come in the NEWSROOM, oil at its lowest level in six years. But could it tumble lower and what does that mean for gas prices?

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[10:36:57] COSTELLO: Checking some top stories for you at 36 minutes past.

Former Subway pitchman Jared Fogle will plead guilty for paying for sex with minors and child porn charges. And now we know about how long he might stay in prison. The government agreed to recommend less than 13 years behind bars. Fogle's lawyers will ask for no less than five years. Fogle will also have no unsupervised visits with minors and he'll adhere to a pornography ban among other requirements.

ISIS has murdered an antiquities expert in Syria. The 82-year- old archaeologist was beheaded in the city's public square as militants looked on. Palmyra, Syria is a UNESCO World Heritage site full of ancients monuments and temples. The Syrian government is racing to save hundreds of thousands of antiquities from ISIS. Museums across the country have been left bare, their valuables whisked away to secret locations.

The FDA has given a thumbs-up to a medication dubbed the little pink pill. It will be sold as Addyi -- is that what it is, A-D-D-Y-I and used to treat loss of sex drive in women. The FDA does not offer a warning though. The drug should not be taken by patients who drink alcohol.

Rosie O'Donnell says her daughter has been found safe and sound. The 17-year-old ad ran away and had been missing for several days. Rosie tweeted last night that Chelsea O'Donnell was home and expressed her gratitude to police agencies in New York and New Jersey for finding her.

Gas prices may be getting ready to party like it's 1999. Remember when you just paid like a dollar a gallon? One expert says oil prices could dip to $15 a barrel which means that trips to the gas station could get a whole lot cheaper.

Christie Romans is here to explain. Good morning.

CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN CHIEF BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: You stole my line. I was going to start singing Prince.

COSTELLO: I would steal a line (INAUDIBLE)

ROMANS: 1999. That was the last time we had dollar a gallon gas. Now we're not going to get there right now but $2 gas I think is likely by the end of the summer, maybe by Halloween -- $2 gas. Wouldn't that be great?

Here's why. Because oil prices have been tumbling -- Carol. They're down like 11 percent in the last couple of weeks, over the last month; and they're 55 percent over the past year.

Look at that chart. That chart tells you that oil prices have been tumbling. Why? The U.S. is drilling, fracking, and pumping like crazy. OPEC is pumping like crazy. Iran is about to put a whole bunch of legal oil back on the market. Russia drilling oil like crazy.

There's a lot of oil in the world. And we are using less of it than we're making and that means, supply and demand, prices go down. Look at today. $2.66 for a gallon of regular. A year ago, that's money that is savings right now for anyone who is driving. $2 is the prediction for this fall.

And here is this bombshell prediction from the influential money manager David Kotok. He told CNN Money there's no evidence whatsoever to start to suggest we've bottomed -- Carol. $15 to $20 oil --

COSTELLO: Really?

ROMANS: -- could be possible. $15 to $20 oil would bring you back down there, way below $2 a gallon for gas and closer to $1 a gallon for gas.

COSTELLO: Who would have ever thought.

[10:40:00] ROMANS: You know in 1998 when I first started covering commodities markets, oil prices were $12 a barrel. So we've been here before. A long time ago. But we've been here before. That was a financial crisis -- the Asian financial crisis was why oil prices were so low then. They go up, they go down.

Right now there's so much --

COSTELLO: Remember the presidential race of 2008?

ROMANS: Oh yes.

COSTELLO: Gas prices were really high -- right? It became part of like --

ROMANS: Yes. There were promises that if you vote for me, I will make sure gas prices are $2.50. Guess what. Gas prices are below $2.50 and you didn't vote for any of those people.

So the thing here also -- as riding into presidential election season, it's a good reminder, Carol, they all promise things that they don't necessarily -- they can't necessarily deliver. Presidents don't control gas prices. Markets control gas prices. Right now markets -- world markets are awash in oil.

COSTELLO: Christine Romans. Thanks as usual. That was a funny thing

ROMANS: Prince.

COSTELLO: Still to come in the NEWSROOM, Walmart may be the number one retailer in the United States but one city's mayor Walmart is just one big headache. He's declared it a public nuisance.

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[10:45:27] COSTELLO: Walmart may be a bargain hunter's dream but the mayor of Beech Grove, Indiana calls the Walmart store in his town something else. He calls it a hotbed of crime. In fact, Mayor Dennis Buckley declared Walmart a public nuisance because Beech Grove Police have been called to the store more than once a day over the last two years.

A YouTube video of a brawl inside the store that went viral tells the story.

Intense, right? The mayor says as many as three police visits are made to this Walmart store per day. That's a lot for a town of 14,000 people. The Walmart he says is draining his town's resources.

Mayor Buckley joins me now. Welcome, Mr. Mayor.

MAYOR DENNIS BUCKLEY (D), BEECH GROVE, INDIANA (via telephone): Good morning.

COSTELLO: Good morning.

So tell me about -- tell me in your own words why you decided to declare Walmart a public nuisance in your town.

BUCKLEY: The latest incident where the gentleman was caught shoplifting and struggled with the off-duty sheriff's officer and left the store and then ended up shooting himself in the hand -- that was probably the final straw for me.

We had been working with Walmart, and we had in the last five months we had made 486 responses to the property. So I thought it was time that Walmart be considered or classified as a public nuisance. So last Friday our police chief did his due diligence and sent them a letter in person advising them of such.

COSTELLO: Is the Walmart located in a high crime area?

BUCKLEY: No. It's located actually right off of the interstate. And behind it is a residential neighborhood.

COSTELLO: Why do you think Walmart attracts such criminal elements?

BUCKLEY: I'm not really sure. I don't know if it's pricing. I don't know if it's the location off of the interstate. I'm not really sure.

COSTELLO: Walmart did release this statement to us. It says "Walmart has worked closely with local law enforcement officials and directly responded to their request by both hiring an off-duty police officer to be in the store and implementing a program designed to reduce store calls for police assistance."

What do you make of this statement from Walmart?

BUCKLEY: The last part is accurate. The first part is not exactly accurate. They have hired off-duty police officers but they're not there all the time. The day after this event happened there was an off-duty police officer there from 10:00 in the morning until noon. I don't recall any other time during the day that the police were in the store.

I'm asking them --

COSTELLO: Go ahead sir.

BUCKLEY: I'm sorry. I'm asking them to place off-duty police officers in the store 24 hours as day, seven days a week at the entrances to where they could be seen when the public walks in the building.

COSTELLO: What would you say to those people who say, you know what? Walmart provides a lot of jobs for your community and it pays taxes that helps your community, so why can't you provide police resources to protect the customers of Walmart? BUCKLEY: They do provide jobs for area residents, and I

appreciate that. But from a taxing standpoint, that's not exactly accurate. When Walmart located into Beech Grove they were placed in what they call tip district. That money -- taxes generated by Walmart is placed in that fund which is controlled by the redevelopment commission, and it's used for infrastructure improvement and new infrastructure.

That money that they pay into the tip district does not come to the city of Beech Grove. So local businesses that are not in the tip district including the businesses on main street do not -- are footing the bill for police and fire and for the police to come down to Walmart all the time. So that's not exactly accurate. And that's one of my arguments.

COSTELLO: That is one of your arguments. So in your estimation does the presence of Walmart in your town help or hurt your community?

[10:50:09] BUCKLEY: I think it's helped but they have an issue that I want them to deal with and that is crime. We're going down there way too much and here soon we will be writing tickets to Walmart and the reason for the tickets is to offset their behavior.

COSTELLO: Mayor Dennis Buckley. Thanks so much for joining us.

And again, we reached out to Walmart to appear on the program. They declined. But they did send us this statement and I want to read it again, in fairness. It says "Walmart has worked closely with local law enforcement officials and directly responded to their request by both hiring an off-duty officer to be in the store and implementing a program designed to reduce store calls for police assistance." That statement from Walmart.

Still to come in the NEWSROOM -- Deflategate. Deflategate settlement talks are going on right now. So where is Tom Brady?

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[10:55:08] COSTELLO: The Deflategate saga continues this morning in federal court but without the two biggest names in the case, Tom Brady or Roger Goodell. Judge Richard Berman reportedly told them there was no reason to show up because the two sides have made absolutely no progress. The NFL and the Players' Association have said they want this resolved by September 4th.

CNN Sports anchor Rachel Nichols joins me now with more on what's happening today.

RACHEL NICHOLS, CNN SPORTS ANCHOR: Well, they're in court today. The lawyers are making their oral arguments basically what they've been filing on all these (INAUDIBLE). This has been going on for seven months, Carol. We've now passed the seven-month mark. So there's nothing that they're saying today that we haven't heard.

But what is interesting is that while Tom Brady and Roger Goodell aren't in court today, yesterday they met with each other face-to-face and phalanxes of lawyers, of course at a secret location. I don't know if it was a bat cave or what but it didn't work because they still have no settlement.

So this case is proceeding. The judge in the case in court just a few minutes ago told the lawyers that he wants everyone to continue trying to settle --

COSTELLO: Oh really?

NICHOLS: -- and they will be back in court with Roger Goodell and Tom Brady this time August 31.

COSTELLO: There are whole sorts of rumors flying around out there that Tom Brady might be considering a deal that means like he's not really directly -- his punishment is not directly related to deflating balls.

NICHOLS: Yes, well, this is the talk that have been going on all summer. Even before Roger Goodell ruled on Tom Brady's appeal that got us to this point in the first place, the Brady camp was saying, "Hey, we'll take some sort of punishment, maybe, as a middle ground for saying failure to cooperate." That whole like destroying the cell phone idea, right or anything like that -- not being entirely forthcoming with the information.

And the NFL side has said, no way, you have to admit that you deflated footballs. The movement maybe we've seen in the past couple of days is instead of just a fine for failure to comply maybe the Brady camp has opened up to maybe a one-game suspension for failure to comply. But it's all theoretical because the NFL has come down with the hammer on the other side of these settlement talks and said, no way, you're not going to get away with that. You have to admit you deflated footballs and then they're back to square one and we're still talking about this -- Carol.

COSTELLO: I know, Rachel. You're going to have to continue follow this for several more months, I'm sure.

Rachel Nichols -- thanks so much.

Donald Trump has tweeted a lot of let's say interesting, even controversial things but what if they were put to music? Here's Jeanne Moos.

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JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: If Donald Trump's tweets are a window to his soul, what could be more soulful than Josh Groban singing?

ANNOUNCER: The best tweets of Donald Trump.

MOOS: Prepare for deep thoughts and weighty words.

JOSH GROBAN, SINGER: I've never seen a thin person drinking Diet Coke -- MOOS: Trump now uses Twitter to launch political attacks but in

the past, he's dispensed romantic advice.

GROBAN: Robert Pattinson should not take back Kristin Stewart. She cheated on him like a dog --

MOOS: Truth be told, "The Jimmy Kimmel Show" took at least one of the Trump's tweets out of context --

GROBAN: We need global warming --

MOOS: Actually, Donald tweeted, "It is freezing and snowing in New York. We need global warming."

But there is nothing warmer than the Donald's regard for himself.

GROBAN: My IQ is one of the highest --

MOOS: But you can't prove it by his tweets.

To illustrate the point that the Donald's tweets are like something a 12-year-old might send, "GQ" posted a quiz. "Who tweeted it, Donald Trump or a random teen?"

Spoiler alert, it was a teen who tweeted, "Lena Dunham is still dummy trash". And it was Donald who tweeted, "Word is spreading that I got a tattoo. No way."

Lately, Donald has tried to be more diplomatic.

But even as he tries to be a kinder, gentler Trump, he slips up.

Trump told columnist Maureen Dowd, Heidi Klum, "Sadly she is no longer a 10." Prompting Heidi to release a video of a guy in a Trump mask demoting her.

She shrugged it off with the #heiditrumpstrump.

And cartoonist Jeff Danziger depicted Trump rating Heidi in all of his bare bellied splendor.

The last time Josh Groban sang tweets, they were from Kanye West. But the Donald and the Kanye, birds of a feather, went tweeting.

GROBAN: I love me --

MOOS: Jeanne Moos, CNN --

GROBAN: #makeAmericagreatagain.

MOOS: -- New York.

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COSTELLO: I'll have to go watch that again.

Thank you so much for joining me today. I'm Carol Costello.

[11:00:01] "AT THIS HOUR" with Berman and Bolduan starts now.

JOHN BERMAN, CNN HOST: Breaking news involving one of America's most famous pitchmen -- the guy who ate a lot of Subway then lost a lot of weight right now --