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Bill Cosby to Testify Under Oath; Hispanic Woman Avidly Supports Donald Trump; Cowboys' Greg Hardy Comments Controversial. Aired 2:30-3p ET
Aired October 09, 2015 - 14:30 ET
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[14:30:00] LISA BLOOM, CNN LEGAL ANALYST & ATTORNEY FOR COSBY ACCUSER: Having said that, I am sure Mr. Cosby will be very well represented in the deposition. His attorneys will interpose every objection they feel is appropriate. I think it's likely that there will be disputes after the deposition. I've litigated against these very attorneys many times myself. One side or the other will go into court and say that there was behavior in the deposition that shouldn't have happened and ask the judge for a ruling. So this may be only the first. There may be further depositions of Mr. Cosby if he doesn't answer all of the questions that Gloria Allred and Judy Huth want him to answer.
BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: To your point about the questioning, since this is a deposition. So wider scope of questioning. How long could he be sitting there answering questions? Are we talking hours potentially?
BLOOM: It's -- there is a seven-hour rule in California. One day is the standard. That means seven working hours, maybe three hours and then you take an hour lunch break and then another four hours. If litigants want more than the seven hours they have to go to the court and ask for it. I would expect that he would be there for probably all seven of the hours.
BALDWIN: Lisa bloom. Thank you so much. We'll have you back on, of course, to talk about your case as well. Thank you so much.
BLOOM: Thank you. Have a great day.
BALDWIN: Next, new details in Dr. Ben Carson's story about being held up at a Popeye's chicken restaurant when he told the gunman, quote, "I believe you want the guy behind the counter." More on that ahead.
Also later, Dallas Cowboys player, Greg Hardy, speaking out after his suspension for domestic violence incident, and some of his comments, including remarks about the Patriots Quarterback Tom Brady's wife, are unbelievable. Rachel Nichols weighs in coming up.
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[14:36:08] BALDWIN: Here is the deal. The thing about a Donald Trump rally is you never know what's going to happen. This is his stock and trade, something he perfected during his years in reality TV. Case in point, Trump takes the stage in Vegas yesterday to this introduction.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: By the way, Donald hired more Hispanics, hundreds of thousands of them, and they all love him. Believe me.
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BALDWIN: Well, anyone following Trump's bid for the White House knows he has a Latino problem. Moments after taking the stage, just after the Republican front runner complained about how his nose looked in the latest "People" magazine cover, this happened.
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TRUMP: I love "People" magazine. I love the people at "People" magazine. The story was nice, but I didn't like what they did -- they screwed around with -- I said just leave me alone. But Melania looked good. I looked like hell. I have a feeling maybe they picked the picture. They might have picked it. I don't know. I've been on -- there it is.
Come here. Come here.
(CHEERING)
(SHOUTING)
(CHEERING)
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DONALD TRUMP, (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE & CEO, TRUMP ORGANIZATION: Where are you from?
MYRIAM WITCHER, TRUMP SUPPORTER: I'm from Colombia.
TRUMP: Colombia.
(SHOUTING)
(CHEERING)
TRUMP: And is this a setup? Did I ever meet you before?
WITCHER: I'm Hispanic and I vote for Mr. Trump! We vote for Mr. Trump!
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WITCHER: Yes! Mr. Trump! We love you! We love you! All the way to the White House!
TRUMP: I swear to you -- I think she's totally beautiful and great. I never met her before. I swear. I just -- this all started with "People" magazine. So I love this story. They couldn't have been nicer. Nice story.
Right? Couldn't be nicer.
But I don't know what happened. I don't want touching. I don't want touching.
(LAUGHTER)
So I'm looking -- so you tell me. (INAUDIBLE)
(SHOUTING)
TRUMP: I have a wart on the end of my nose! Can you believe it?
(LAUGHTER)
And I said -- I said, oh my -- I don't have -- look. It's terrible. But that's OK. Because they meant it well. I think they wanted to make me look like Cary Grant. Do we remember Cary Grant?
(LAUGHTER)
And I have always wanted to look like Cary Grant.
But, anyway, you are beautiful.
Will you make sure she doesn't fall?
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BALDWIN: That exuberant Trump fan is Myriam Witcher. And now Myriam joins me from Las Vegas.
Myriam, I mean, I wasn't even there in person. I feel your support, your excitement over Donald Trump. Can you tell me why he excites you so much?
WITCHER: Oh, my god. He is coming -- he is our man. Sent from heaven. He is a very, very beautiful human being. Beautiful heart. A lot of love and compassion. If you can read or hear about the charities he's doing, this is something that touched my heart. Especially for the little kids, have concert, and he support this beautiful doctors, they can do something for so many babies and kids are completely sick. This is number one. Number two, I read his books, and his books are amazing. His -- by the way, my best mentor in my personal life. I believe if every American, every person in the worldwide reads his books, I believe America and the worldwide, will be in a good shape economically. But unfortunately, people don't read.
[14:40:33] BALDWIN: Myriam, I feel your enthusiasm. I wouldn't be doing my job if I didn't ask a couple of questions, so bear with me.
WITCHER: All right. BALDWIN: Had you ever met Donald Trump before being on stage with
him?
WITCHER: Only in my dreams. You are not going to believe what I'm going to tell you. I believe in law attraction. I believe in being a positive person. And three nights before he came to Las Vegas, I told my husband, oh, I have dreams. You can't imagine. I saw Mr. Trump in my dreams. And I saw him like I had the opportunity to give a hug. And I had my Facebook page, and I wrote so many times, Mr. Trump, I am a Hispanic person, and I hope I have the opportunity to give a hug to you. He doesn't know me. In my pictures -- I don't have pictures in Facebook about myself.
BALDWIN: Did someone from the Trump campaign reach out to you after seeing what you posted on Facebook?
WITCHER: I guess from the campaign, I guess. I touched my feelings, I go by my heart. I'm very similar like Mr. Trump. I just said what I feel. And this is -- this is me. And I support him 100 percent. And I believe our country can be in a good hands.
BALDWIN: I understand you saw him in your dreams, and I think that's wonderful, and you feel it in your heart. I am just trying to ask, did his campaign talk to you ahead of time?
WITCHER: Nobody. It's not something -- I just only talked to God and my computer and in my heart. And that's it.
BALDWIN: OK. So no one talked to you from the Trump campaign.
WITCHER: Nobody. Nobody.
BALDWIN: Let me ask you this. About -- you specifically -- specifically Hispanics and the Hispanic vote and Donald Trump. He needs Hispanic voters. He needs people like you. When you look at the poll numbers from September 20th to 24th. Very positive, 3 percent. Very negative, 67 percent. Very negatives are up. This is a man who wants to build a wall. He has talked about mass deportations. He has referred to some Mexicans as rapists and killers. That doesn't bother you?
WITCHER: It doesn't bother me at all. Mr. Trump, he is 100 percent right. I came --
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BALDWIN: Are we all 100 percent right? That's perfect!
WITCHER: He is -- he is our perfect man. He is my perfect man. Absolutely. Always I say he is our man. Absolutely. Everything he said is absolutely right.
BALDWIN: That is support.
WITCHER: Absolutely. Nobody in this planet want to say those are the weak parts in my country. Nobody wants to say we have terrible criminals. We have problems with drugs. We have problems with a lot of bad things. Everybody wants to cover it up and say our country is beautiful. The food is wonderful. The people are beautiful. When, excuse me, so many people daily, they are scared just to go to the street after 6:00 p.m. Just like --
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BALDWIN: I appreciate you so much for coming on. Thank you for speaking from your heart. And Donald Trump should be so lucky to have someone like you in his camp.
WITCHER: Give me a minute. One moment. And this is for Donald Trump.
BALDWIN: And there is the signature. There you go.
Myriam, thank you so much.
WITCHER: You're very welcome.
BALDWIN: Have a wonderful day.
WITCHER: Thank you. You, too.
BALDWIN: Thank you.
And of course, let me remind you, you can watch the very first Democratic presidential debate this Tuesday. Coverage starts at 8:30 p.m. I'll be there live for special coverage starting Monday. Do not miss it.
All right. Coming up, my next guest has spent two decades covering people in sports. Why Rachel Nichols is calling two incidents this week a new low. Don't miss this. We'll be right back.
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[14:44:23] BALDWIN: Two days before Greg Hardy makes his debut with the Dallas Cowboys, his suspension is over and his team is doing serious damage control. This is all over controversial comments Hardy made to reporters in the locker room this week. First, there was no apology for last year's assault against his ex-girlfriend that landed him in trouble in the first place, resulting in the four-game suspension. Then he said this as the Cowboys get ready to host the Patriots on Sunday, quote, "I love seeing Tom Brady. He is cool as crap. You ever seen his wife? I hope she comes to the game. I hope her sister comes to the game, all her friends come to the game."
OK. Now, the Cowboys' head coach says he has since spoken to Hardy about this.
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[14:50:08] UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Greg Hardy's comments the other day about guns blazing' and Tom Brady's wife and things have gotten a lot of traction. Have you spoken to him about what he said and had any admonishment or anything?
JASON GARRETT, HEAD COACH, DALLAS COWBOYS: We addressed it immediately that that's not how we want to operate as an organization. Our players and coaches understand that. We want to distinguish ourself with our play, not with what we say. We want to define ourselves by what we do not by what we say. I think Greg understands that now. And that's how we want to proceed going forward.
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BALDWIN: Rachel Nichols, Rachel Nichols, she is here. She is spicy!
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She has just written a phenomenal article for CNN.com. Let me read part of it. Tee it up. Talking about covering sports, "But being a fantastic person in sports not the requirement. The expectation is more like mildly civil or not aggressively insulting or -- and this one has been particularly hard for some -- be a person who does not regularly beat women and children. So it's remarkable when we have a stretch like the past few days when it slithers under that pretty low bar."
Yowza!
RACHEL NICHOLS, CNN SPORTS ANCHOR: It's a low bar. Nobody is asking that you win the Nobel Peace Prize if you are a football player. Just don't offend everybody. Just don't disrespect women openly. Do it in private. Come on. Say the right thing even if you have to pretend.
BALDWIN: That stuff about Gisele, you have to be kidding me.
NICHOLS: He said later in the news conference that he selects fellow players for the Pro Bowl based on how attractive the wives or girlfriends they might bring along with them to the game are. Not just something that tells women who are watching the NFL, who love football the way I love football that maybe we don't really matter to the NFL and that he's poisoning the sport I love so much.
But here is where it's dangerous. If you consistently make it clear that you think women are objects to be looked at as opposed to individual people, that their only worth is to look attractive for you, it is not that far a stretch to understand why he was convicted for taking his girlfriend, throwing her onto a futon piled with automatic weapons, choking her, threatening to kill her and pounding her head into the bathroom floor.
They appealed the verdict and did not have a second trial, which is why he is now on the Dallas Cowboys. If you don't think that woman is a person, then banging her head against the concrete doesn't matter so much, I guess, in your estimation, because she doesn't feel it. She's just an object for you to look at. This is why this is a big deal. P.C. police --
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BALDWIN: Thank you for calling attention to it.
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NICHOLS: It is a big deal.
BALDWIN: It is a big deal. It is a big deal.
You asked Roger Goodell about some of this. Listen to this.
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ROGER GOODELL, NFL COMMISSIONER: It's a very, very small percentage of men who don't follow policies. And when they don't, they have to be held accountable. We'll do everything we can to prevent that, to intervene and try to make sure that we get them to follow policies and see the way the NFL does things, the standards we hope to uphold. We won't compromise on it.
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BALDWIN: What's the message?
NICHOLS: It was troubling. I asked him the question 24 hours after Greg Hardy's comments. He said, I don't know anything about that. You want the commissioner of the NFL to be aware of what a guy like Greg Hardy did, who is coming off suspension and saying. You want the commissioner to say, this isn't OK with us. You heard the head coach say, hey, this is not the way we conduct business. But the owner of the Dallas Cowboys came out and said he supported Hardy. He said, "Hey, my estimation of Tom Brady went up when he married Gisele, a good-looking woman on his arm. Must be an accomplished guy." Today, he went on Dallas radio and said, "Women like to be told how attractive they are." "Look at Elizabeth Taylor," Jerry Jones said. She spent her whole life dedicated to having people think she was pretty. This is Elizabeth Taylor, who had a 60-year acting career and founded a company that's netted over a billion dollars and was one of the leading voices in AIDS education. She is now a dame -- posthumously, a dame of the English order in Great Britain. You know, all she really wanted to accomplish was being pretty, right?
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NICHOLS: Come on! Come on!
BALDWIN: Rachel Nichols, read her op-ed, CNN.com. She is spicy!
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Thank you my friend, very much.
NICHOLS: Absolutely.
BALDWIN: Protests under way right now as President Obama has just arrived in Oregon to pay tribute to the victims of the mass shooting from last week. We'll take you live to Roseburg, next, here on CNN.
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[14:59:03] BALDWIN: Republican presidential candidate, Ben Carson, this week told a radio audience about how he was held up at gunpoint years ago at a Popeye's restaurant at Baltimore.
Tell the story on the campaign trail and somebody will look for specifics. You dig as a journalist.
Joe John has done precisely that he joins me now.
You're just back from a Carson appearance in D.C. and have new details on what happened years ago.
JOE JOHN, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: Right, Brooke. He tells a lot of stories. This is a good one. The Carson campaign business manager says the Popeye's stick up occurred between 1980 and 1983. Armstrong Williams says the incident occurred at a Popeye's restaurant. We have a more specific location, on the corner of Orleans and Broadway in Baltimore. That's right on the edge of the Johns Hopkins University campus. Williams says it happened while Carson was a resident at Johns Hopkins. Carson went, apparently, to get French fries for his family and never came back with the fries.
