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Report: Ex-Apprentice Contestant Now Accusing Trump; Conjoined Twins Separated in Successful Surgery; Trump Being Advised by Roger Ailes and Steve Bannon of Breitbart; Pennsylvania Working Class Voters Still for Trump; Boy Victim of Bullies Has a Birthday Party with Fireman and Police. Aired 3:30-4p ET

Aired October 14, 2016 - 15:30   ET

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[15:30:00] MATHEW BELLONI, EXECUTIVE EDITOR, "THE HOLLYWOOD REPORTER": I think absolutely. This does suggest Billy Bush and NBC have not reached an amicable settlement as many believe there had would be at the beginning of week where he would just be paid a sum of money and go away. And NBC would move on.

The hiring of Marshall Grossman who is a very well-known litigator in Los Angeles suggests that Billy Bush believes he has claims against NBC and is asserting these claims and this is not a fight that is going to end easily.

BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: What is NBC saying?

BELLONI: NBC's position on this is that they learned about these tapes -- the news division learned about the tapes about a week before they were published. They handled them responsibly, did an internal review and once they were scooped by the "Post" they went up with their version of the same story. But my understanding is that NBC is attempting to invoke what is called a morals clause in a contract where Billy Bush could be terminated for his role in this event because of the things that he did on the tape.

The opposite argument from that, which is what is being made by his people is he wasn't an NBC employee at "Access Hollywood", he was interviewing one of the biggest stars on NBC in Donald Trump at the time to promote the appearance on an NBC soap "Days of Our Lives", so his attorney told me what was Billy supposed to do? If he stopped Donald Trump and said -- immediately stop this conversation what are you saying? He would have been fired.

BALDWIN: We'll be watching the fight and see what happens with Billy Bush and his fate with NBC. Matthew, thank you. As Matthew points out, this lawyer Billy Bush has worked with Erin Andrews, Steven Spielberg. We have more breaking news in just a moment but first, we have an update to a story that's generated a massive amount of interest on CNN.com. Conjoined twin boys connected there at the head have finally come out of a marathon surgery to separate them. Our chief medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta joins me with his exclusive reporting coming up.

Let's just take a break from everything and talk about this extraordinary story, these two little boys, high stakes and high emotions for the parents of twins born conjoined at the head. 13- month-old Jadon and Anias McDonald are now separated, they are out of surgery, the separation surgery alone lasted more than 16 hours. Doctors then spent more time operating each child individually rebuilding their skulls.

The last operation ended a short time ago. 27 hours later. 27. The twins are now recovering in the pediatric ICU of a Bronx hospital and let me show you some pictures posted from mom's Facebook page here. The family in the hospital allowed CNN exclusive access to document the boys' remarkable and rare journey. Here is CNN's chief medical correspondent Sanjay Gupta.

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SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: I want to give you a little bit of an idea of what's happening here. In order to do this operation, they have to continuously move Jadon and Anias. So this is the position they are in beforehand, and they essentially flip like this. And then like this. Now they'll focus on this part of the bone and this part of the brain. 4:30 p.m., seven hours after the operation began, Nicole, Christian, and their entire family are playing the waiting game. Do you feel anxious, are you settled? How do you feel?

CHRISTIAN MCDONALD, FATHER OF CONJOINED TWINS: Like I have a little nervous energy.

NICOLE MCDONALD, MOTHER OF CONJOINED TWINS: What's waiting in my stomach is for that phone call. OK, we are into, I call it the land of the unknown.

GUPTA: An hour later the surgical team hits the land of the unknown a then well past mid-night they continue to work through the twins' brains, vein by vein. Then 2:11 a.m.

It's been about 17 hours since they started operating and you can see for the first time Jadon and Anais are on two separate operating room tables.

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BALDWIN: Extraordinary, extraordinary stuff. You scrubbed in, I can't even imagine the parents, you have been up since 4:00 a.m. yesterday. How are they?

GUPTA: They're both out of surgery. It took a long time as you mentioned. Jadon came out first and was doing very well. There's always a dominant and n-dominant twin and Anais was the non-dominant twin.

[15:35:00] The knew they were going to have a bit more trouble with him in terms of the operation. But he's out now as well, so they are all reunited. I've got to say Christian who is the dad, when Jadon came up they were very emotional and he said "my boy." And he has always said "my boys" before. And there was something very poignant about that and very emotional but they are good parents, they moved their lives here to be able to take care of their children.

BALDWIN: From Illinois?

GUPTA: From Illinois, small town, they're in the Bronx and gave up their jobs to take care of the children and now they've gotten what they wanted. They wanted these boys to be separated.

BALDWIN: Mom wanted to hold each boy individually and now she's able to. I know our whole crew is following them, just thank you for --

GUPTA: We're going to keep tabs on them.

BALDWIN: And our best to the family and doctor. 27 hours. My goodness, Sanjay. Thank you so much.

Back to politics. Donald Trump once again lashing out against his accusers, lashing out against the media as more women are coming forward accusing him of groping them.

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[15:40:00] DONALD TRUMP, REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: The process is rigged. This whole election is being rigged. These lies spread by the media without witnesses, without back up or anything else are poisoning the minds of the electorate.

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BALDWIN: As for Trump supporters, their pitchforks have never been raised so high. Here's an example, a photo was taken by our senior White House correspondent Jim Acosta this week at a Trump rally in Florida there. A Trump supporter placed this sign at one of the press tables. See on the left side that's a swastika next to the word "media."

Interesting to note Trump has two former conservative media titans at the helm of his campaign as we've been reporting. Former Fox News CEO roger Ailes and Breitbart CEO Steve Bannon. A source close to Breitbart tells CNN that Trump is not an anomaly saying "regardless of what happens to Trump on November 8, this movement is not going away this is the first inning."

David is back with us, media critic, TV critic for the Baltimore Sun and Joshua Green, correspondent for Bloomberg Business Week recently wrote this profile about Steve Bannon. So gentlemen nice to have both of you back on.

And Josh, let me begin with you here. Breitbart -- Breitbart editor- in-chief told CNN this is the movement. Breitbart is a movement. For folks who have no idea what that means, describe the movement.

JOSHUA GREEN, CORRESPONDENT BLOOMBERG BUSINESS WEEK: Well, this is a strain of populist conservatives who don't like Wall Street banks, tend to be very nationalistic in their politics, some of them are actual white nationalists, but basically they view themselves as being into opposition of the mainstream Republican party as represented by people like Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, Mitt Romney, those type of people.

So they've been a thorn in the side of those Republicans, they help drive out house speaker John Boehner last year out of his job and now essentially they have kind of moved into Trump tower and are running Donald Trump's presidential campaign.

BALDWIN: So you're the one this week. You just talked to Steve Bannon, CEO of the Trump campaign who told you -- and I'm paraphrasing -- that they're going to all Bill Cosby on Bill Clinton. Based upon what you know and listening to Trump today, what kind of conversations do you think are swirling between Donald Trump, Steve Bannon and Roger Ailes right now.

GREEN: The quote from Bannon, to be clear, came from two advisors that Bannon spoke to so they were describing his strategy, it didn't come directly from Bannon. But nobody argues this is, in fact, what Bannon wants to do and so the strategy pretty much over the last couple weeks since these accusers started coming out was we're not going to play defense. We are going to attack Bill Clinton, we're going to attack Hillary Clinton over their history of real and maybe not so real sex scandals as a way of fighting back and evening things out.

Bannon at least believes there's an electoral component to this also that if young millennial women who Hillary Clinton is counting on to win just learn about the Clintons' past and Monica Lewinsky that they'll become so depressed and despondent they won't turn out to vote and Trump will win.

BALDWIN: And you have Trump on stage saying I'm not listening to them, they -- presumably the folks, his advisors, don't want me talking about these accusers and we listened to him go off on them for 20 minutes. David, Charles Krauthammer, one of the most conservative columnists wrote this op-ed in "The Washington Post" last night about the "lock her up" chant at the Trump rallies.

And we have been seeing Trump responding by "yes, she should go to jail" and he says when Trump joins in on the chants and calls for Clinton to be prosecuted he said -- conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer -- saying Trump is unfit to be in charge of the DOJ, to be in charge of the FBI. It's interesting to see cracks within conservative media.

DAVID ZURAWIC, TV CRITIC, BALTIMORE SUN: Well, Krauthammer has done very good -- and he's one of the smartest writers in the media and he's behaved honorably about this. Exactly what you put your finger on is what he's been saying and I give him credit for that. But on the other hand we have to say I don't know anybody who believes in democracy who is not going to rise up and say, look, Donald Trump is going to a very dangerous place, And especially in the last couple days I think he's gone to a very dangerous place talking about international banking conspiracies, you know, I've heard it discussed. Yes, we understand that's an old, old anti-Semitic and really dangerous kind of charge. So when you then -- Jim Acosta shows us that swastika, this is a very, very dark time for America. Trump has rolled up his sleeves and stuck his hand into a very dangerous pot and given it a huge stir and I think part of it is he -- is he is so upset by the way the press has reported his sexual predatory behavior. And I'll tell you what, Bannon and those folks can say all they want, there's a video with him boasting about it out there now and that's the thing that blew this up for him. You can't run from that.

BALDWIN: The video on the bus from 2005 which, yes, that was him and he's apologized and he is saying meantime all these accusers are liars, he says he has evidence to disprove. We are waiting.

Josh, then you have the folks given all the stirring of the pot David just discussed, people are saying is he trying to lose? We'll see if come November 8 people do show up or if they don't. We've got to go. David and Josh, thank you both so much.

Coming up next, more on the breaking story, who is this former "apprentice" contestant accusing Trump of unwanted advances. We'll discuss this.

First, a sneak peek at Sunday night's episode of Anthony Bourdain "Parts Unknown". This time he heads to the Sichuan province of China.

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ANTHONY BOURDAIN, CNN HOST, "PARTS UNKNOWN: You order a whole bunch of ingredients, meat, vegetables, noodles, fish, whatever you like. A lot of different ingredients and feed them into the pot.

UNIDENTIFIED COOK: We should throw them in.

BOURDAIN: Because that is going to take a long time. And throw that tripe in.

UNIDENTIFIED COOK: It's called thousand-layer stomach.

BOURDAIN: All going in there, man. The inner ring is a more neutral broth, the outer ring is the good stuff, the hard stuff. Man, that's good.

UNIDENTIFIED COOK: That was the first bite.

BOURDAIN: Awesome, right? It only gets better my friend.

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BALDWIN: The economy on the mind of voters in the battleground state of Pennsylvania. Donald Trump is saying only he could bring back manufacturing jobs the state has been hemorrhaging. but in a recent Bloomberg poll it shows Hillary Clinton leading Donald Trump with a nine-point lead in a four-way race, Clinton currently leading Trump 48 percent to 39 percent.

And my colleague Poppy Harlow travelled to Pennsylvania to speak to those coveted working class voters to find out why as part of a special report this weekend called "Your Money, Your Vote".

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POPPY HARLOW, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Beth Hamilton is rarity, a woman in the Democratic stronghold of Montgomery county, Pennsylvania, supporting Donald Trump. You're really concerned about the economy.

BETH HAMILTON, PENNSYLVANIA VOTER: I am. I think so many manufacturing jobs have left.

HARLOW: Do you think there is really any way that those jobs are actually coming back given globalization and free trade and technological advances?

HAMILTON: I like to believe that there is potential to just sit back and -- and say all of the jobs are going to leave because it's cheaper to make something in China or it is cheaper to make something in Mexico, and not even try and do something to keep some of those jobs. I think that's foolish.

HARLOW: Donald Trump has put this state in play with his appeal to white, working-class voters like here in Burks county. We met with Hamid Choudry at his bustling restaurant in the heart of Redding.

HAMID CHOUDRY: God bless America, melting pot. Greatest country in the world.

HARLOW: A Muslim from Pakistan he immigrated here in 1988. When we spoke to Choudry in late September his vote came to one thing.

CHOUDRY: Jobs, jobs, jobs. You go five miles either direction they've shut down plants.

[15:45:00] HARLOW: He told us Donald Trump is the candidate who can bring those jobs.

CHOUDRY: Trump is a smart man, I'm taking a leap of faith.

HARLOW: That was then. Now he's more hesitant to take that leap after the 2005 video of Donald Trump bragging about groping women surfaced. He questions how he could explain a vote for Trump to his 9-year-old daughter so now he's undecided.

CHOUDRY: If you look at today's newspaper you will see the paper plant got shut down.

HARLOW: This is a paper plant closing.

CHOUDRY: More jobs leaving Burks county.

HARLOW: Went with to find that plant.

So this is the plant that's closing. The manager here told us 31 jobs are being cut. These are good-paying jobs.

UNIDENTIFIED MANAGER: It's one of the few left in Burks county.

BILL SCHWOYER: They gave us the notice two weeks ago that they are shutting the facility down at the end of the year. I started there when I was 19. So I've been there for 37 years.

HARLOW: Bill Schwoyer has been a machine operator at the Neenah Paper Factory for nearly four decades. Lisa has been working second shift here for 14 years. In many respects they're the quintessential voter Donald Trump has been courting. Blue collar and their jobs are disappearing.

LISA, PENNSYLVANIA VOTER: The Trade agreements I fully believe that is the reason many jobs are leaving.

HARLOW: But your jobs aren't necessarily going to Mexico or China, right?

LISA: Well they have to compete in a world market.

HARLOW: Neenah Paper told us this plant "operated at well below full capacity, resulting in a non-competitive cost structure despite the good efforts of the 30 employees there." The company is vowing to help its workers try to find jobs possibly at other Neenah sites in other states. Donald Trump says he will throw out what he calls bad trade agreements and save jobs like yours and he will bring your jobs back.

LISA: Sure he will. I don't think so. I don't believe he could come through with those promises. He's a businessman. I don't know that's necessarily what we need to lead the country.

HARLOW: Both Lisa and Bill, say Clinton has their vote.

BILL SCHWOYER: She's going to get my vote. I'm just, you know, you don't feel super confident in either of them, maybe. But you know, I really have no faith in Donald Trump at all. None. He's reality TV. And I just don't trust that.

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BALDWIN: I love you got out.

HARLOW: It's so refreshing.

BALDWIN: I want to hear from the voters. Not just I love the pundits but.

HARLOW: You wrote a great column about exactly that.

BALDWIN: Thank you. I did what surprised you about it?

HARLOW: What surprised me is the time we spent in the cafe with the restaurant owner Hameed who is a Muslim immigrant from Pakistan who is totally on the Trump train but the tape, the accusations now turning his mind a little bit but he may still vote for Trump, because of one thing, jobs.

He and a Latino man, also an immigrant both voting for Trump. I mean that county, Burks county in Pennsylvania, 40 percent of the people live below the poverty line. Just think about that, 40 percent, almost half of the population.

Many of them are willing to disregard other things they don't like about Donald Trump and vote solely on jobs. I think that is what surprised me so much. So much about this election has not been about the issues and for them it is about the issues, it is about jobs, jobs, jobs. Again as you noted this week, this was filmed before that 2005 Access Hollywood tape came out.

So we called every one of the supporters back with the exception of just a few, they are all sticking by Donald Trump despite what they heard on that tape.

BALDWIN: You know, he has such strong support. Question is can they bring others into the fold to get 270. Poppy Harlow, thank you. We'll be watching this weekend won't me. It's called "Your Money, Your Vote" it airs 7:30 eastern tomorrow night.

Coming up next an incredible story about a young boy who has had to deal with bullies his whole life and a group of firefighters and police officers who beyond the call of duty to make his birthday special. Back in 30 seconds.

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BALDWIN: Every year in this country 7 million children are bullied either at school or online. When Matthew Kaplan realized his little brother was one of them he took action. Even though he was only in the eighth grade. During the last five years he shared his free anti- bullying program with over 4600 middle school students. That's why he's this week's CNN hero.

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MATHEW KAPLAN, CREATOR OF ANTI-BULLYING PROGRAM: The term peer pressure is thrown around a lot and usually when it is, it is meant as a negative thing. But I believe that we can actually harness peer pressure for good. What if it is cool to be kind? And that is what positive peer pressure is all about.

[15:50:00] Creating a culture where being inclusive and being kind is the norm.

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BALDWIN: If you want to see Matthew's positive peer pressure program in action go to CNNheroes.com.

Now for one little boy who gets bullied every day, even his own birthday was just another disappointment. That is until a couple local heroes traded in chasing suspects and fighting fires for presenting cakes and candles. Kyung Lah has this week's "beyond the call of duty".

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KYUNG LAH, CNN, CORRESPONDENT: Braden Garnett's world is often a lonely one, diagnosed Asperger disease, dyslexia, and a condition that causes misalignment of his eyes, other kids can be cruel.

BRADEN GARNETT, BULLIED CHILD: At school I struggle because people are calling me names. I'm getting bullied constantly.

LAH: What do they say to you?

GARNETT: Telling me how I'm a cross-eyed freak. And I'm not good at kick ball.

LAH: It's hard, huh?

Braden's eleventh birthday was coming up. His mother hoped this year would be different.

How many kids did you invite?

CARRIE GARNETT, BRADEN'S MOTHER: 36 total.

LAH: How many said they would come?

CARRIE GARNETT: As of two days before only three are going to be there.

LAH: That happened every birthday since he was five. This year was different.

CARRIE GARNETT: I sent an e-mail to detective Eaton with the Pekin police.

LAH: What about this e-mail caught your attention?

DETECTIVE EATON, PEKIN POLICE: Thought if it was my child and nobody showed up what would I say to him. So I thought we could do this.

LAH: Detective Eaton spread the word to the beat cops.

OFFICER JAMES GUERRO, PEKIN POLICE: They were talking about this special kid, Braden, and how neat it would be if we could go and surprise him at his birthday party.

LAH: The cops called the fire chief

PEKIN FIRE CHIEF: We put it out to the guys and within minutes we had three guys that said yes we'll show up.

LAH: Why bring the big rig?

PEKIN FIRE CHIEF: Why not. Go big or go home. [15:55:00] LAH: Big is what they did. More than a dozen police

officers and firefighters played paint ball with Braden for his birthday. They brought their kids. Pooled money for presents and for just one day Braden forgot his daily challenges. And so did these officers.

DETECTIVE EATON: Thanks a lot.

LAH: It's tough right now.

DETECTIVE EATON: It is.

LAH: What do you tell your kids about being a cop.

DETECTIVE EATON: Sorry

LAH: Was this about a birthday party or was it something more for you?

DETECTIVE EATON: We are people. Just like him. Real struggles, you know. Real feelings. And real families.

LAH: CNN, Illinois.

BALDWIN: Love that. I'm Brooke Baldwin thanks for being with me.

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