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Officer Who Shot Philando Castile Took Him To Jail In 2011; Funerals Begin Today For Slain Baton Rouge Officers; Trump Refines Muslim Ban To Focus On Geography. Aired 5:30-6a ET
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[05:33:00] CHRIS CUOMO, CNN HOST: There are new developments in the deadly police shootings highlighted here at the Republican convention. First, we've learned the deadly traffic stop between Philando Castile and the Minnesota officer who took his life, it was not their first encounter.
Officials say the officer involved had escorted Castile to jail in 2011 when he was stopped for driving with a revoked license. Now, that officer was investigating a robbery the night of the shooting and he reportedly pulled over Castile because he matched a description of the suspect.
ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN HOST: Today is the first of three funerals for the Baton Rouge police officers killed in that Ambush on Sunday. Louisiana Gov. John Bel Edwards will attend all three. He will speak at one of them. Two more funerals tomorrow and Monday. Deputy Bruce Simmons, who was injured from the attack, was released from the hospital Thursday to cheers from hundreds of supporters.
CUOMO: The NBA pulling next year's All-Star Game out of North Carolina. League officials made the move because of the state's controversial transgender bathroom law. This move is going to cost North Carolina, in terms of money, $100 million. The state's governor, Pat McCrory, slammed the decision, blaming it in part on the liberal media and "the sports and entertainment elite".
CAMEROTA: Foreign policy, a major focus in Donald Trump's speech last night as he lashed out at Hillary Clinton's record as Secretary of State. We will debate Trump's world view, next.
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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: We must immediately suspend immigration from any nation that has been compromised by terrorism until such time as proven vetting mechanisms have been put in place. We don't want them in our country.
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CUOMO: Donald Trump did not use the word Muslim as he discussed his proposed immigration suspension. That's a very different tune from the campaign trail, no question, however there's a problem with that. He went farther last night than he ever has before about whom to keep out of this country and about why Hillary Clinton is to blame for what Trump calls an America in crisis.
So, let's discuss his foreign policy ideas. Former Democratic governor of Michigan and senior adviser to "Correct the Record", a pro-Clinton political committee, is here with us, Gov. Jennifer Granholm. And, CNN political commentator, talk radio host for KABC, John Phillips, supporting Donald Trump. And just to remind people, those noises you hear behind us should not be of any alarm. They're just tearing everything down and that's all you're hearing.
[05:40:00] CAMEROTA: They're just deconstructing the set while we're sitting on it. No problem.
CUOMO: So, John, reasonable Republicans, right -- that's where Donald Trump is trying to move toward -- should be happy to not hear him going after Muslims all the time because that's a concern. He didn't use it last night. What did you think?
JOHN PHILLIPS, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR, TALK RADIO HOST, KABC: Well, it's hard to believe in all the 75 minutes that the word Muslim didn't pop up once.
CUOMO: The longest in 40 years. Longest in 40 years.
PHILLIPS: Right.
JENNIFER GRANHOLM (D), FORMER GOVERNOR OF MICHIGAN, SENIOR ADVISER, "CORRECT THE RECORD": Forty-four years, I think.
CUOMO: Oh.
PHILLIPS: Here we go.
GRANHOLM: Not to be picky.
PHILLIPS: Look, it was never going to be a Muslim ban. There were always going to be some sort of metric was there to make sure that problematic people or people we assume may not be vetted properly do not --
CAMEROTA: Even though he said total and complete.
PHILLIPS: Right. Well, I mean --
CAMEROTA: Those were his words.
PHILLIPS: Donald Trump, I don't know if you are aware of this, engages in hyperbole on occasion --
CAMEROTA: I mean, you know, it's hard to know which one to take --
PHILLIPS: -- and I believe that was political hyperbole.
CAMEROTA: -- to take seriously.
PHILLIPS: There were -- there was always going to be some sort of metric. This is the metric that he laid out last night, problematic countries. And look, we're both California residents now. San Bernardino was a horrific thing. One of the terrorists in that attack came here legally, went through the vetting process, and checked out. I really think that we're not overreacting enough to make sure that we fix this problem.
GRANHOLM: Well, one of the things that PolitiFact checked was that statement that there's no vetting, and that's just total B.S. according -- they don't say that. They say that it's categorically false.
CUOMO: But you did, so justify it. Why?
GRANHOLM: It's because there is a two-year vetting process for people to come in. I'm just so curious, though, because you are a California Republican, as you said. After last night's speech are you still a Trump supporter? I just can't believe you would be after that.
PHILLIPS: I am because, you know, people are afraid. What happened in San Bernardino could happen --
GRANHOLM: No, he's making them afraid? I mean --
PHILLIPS: -- what happened in Boston --
GRANHOLM: -- the world is coming to an end.
PHILLIPS: No, I think people are -- 69 percent of people think that the country is on the wrong track. People are looking at police officers getting picked off in Dallas, they're looking at police officers getting picked off in Louisiana. They're frightened with what's going in the news. They want someone who is going to sound the alarm bells and change the course.
GRANHOLM: Well, all I can say is wrong track does not equate with the world is falling to pieces. He painted such a -- he painted a world that I don't recognize. He painted a world that was so terrible. There's wasn't any lightness to it, there wasn't any hope. There was no soaring rhetoric. It was all we're all going to hell in a handbasket.
CUOMO: But that's the trick.
GRANHOLM: It was terrible. It was worse than hell (ph).
CUOMO: But that's -- but that's a trick for your party because John is right, in that you know the optics on America right now are not good within the country. People have concerns.
GRANHOLM: Absolutely.
CUOMO: More importantly, what Trump did last night was he said and those concerns are your fault. Hillary Clinton is behind every problem with the status quo in foreign policy that this country has. How does she defend that proposition?
GRANHOLM: Because it's just not true. It's not true and, you know, again, this is -- it's so bizarre to me that they may have checked his speech for plagiarism but they certainly didn't check his speech for factual accuracy.
CAMEROTA: But, Governor, I mean --
GRANHOLM: He repeated over and over again stuff that he -- that has been fact-checked as being wrong --
CAMEROTA: But -- but, I mean --
GRANHOLM: -- including the stuff about foreign policy.
CAMEROTA: Isn't the world, certainly in the pockets that we're concerned with, less stable? I mean, that was his point. That Libya has become less stable, Iraq has become less stable. You can blame George W. Bush for some of that. You can blame whatever's happened during the Obama administration for some of that right.
PHILLIPS: Right.
CAMEROTA: ISIS has been created during these past eight years.
GRANHOLM: Well, no, no, ISIS has not. I mean, that's one of the things --
CAMEROTA: al Qaeda existed but ISIS --
GRANHOLM: Well, I mean, again --
CAMEROTA: -- the surge of ISIS.
GRANHOLM: -- the fact checkers looking at this have repeatedly said ISIS did not rise during Hillary Clinton's time. It started in 2004 -- that was the seeds of it -- under George Bush. But here's what I want to say, is that his prescriptions for creating world order are prescriptions that would cause world havoc.
I mean, the idea, for example, when he was talking about NATO, essentially threatening not to support our allies. That -- I mean, Mitch McConnell said it was a rookie mistake, but his gut is so -- is to create a smaller, more insular America and to sort of mimic Putin, and give Putin more power as a result of American withdrawal from the world.
PHILLIPS: You know, this theme of people not feeling secure just doesn't apply to crime and terrorism, it applies to the economy, too. It used to be that you had one job your entire life, you retired, you had your pension, that was it. Then it changed to where people changed careers three or four times. Now, people have two or three jobs at once and they're making it now, but they don't feel secure about their economic situation.
[05:45:00] And Trump talked to people in Ohio, he talked to people in Michigan, he talked to people in the Rust Belt who have been left behind. Let's face it, Bill Clinton, when he campaigns for his wife he goes around saying Hillary is going to help the people who have been left behind. Left behind by who?
CUOMO: Right, but here -- look, that's true. The trick will be for Donald Trump is to figure out how to solve those problems and not just point them out. But this was his --
GRANHOLM: Exactly.
CUOMO: -- this was his first step. Governor Granholm, as always. One of the best voices in the business you bring to us every morning, John, I've got to say.
PHILLIPS: Thank you.
CUOMO: If I could only sound like you --
GRANHOLM: You do have a nice sounding voice.
CUOMO: -- I might have a shot in this business.
GRANHOLM: It is true.
CUOMO: Sonorous, sonorous and littoral (ph). It's good to have you both, thank you.
PHILLIPS: Thank you.
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CAMEROTA: Donald Trump vowed to deliver a convention like none other before, full of glitz and glamour with a touch of showbiz.
CUOMO: My favorite shot.
CAMEROTA: Did he pull it off? We discuss next.
CUOMO: I still think you see us in silhouette --
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[05:50:00] CUOMO: The Republican National Convention officially wrapping up the four-day affair. You will hear the sounds of it being torn down behind us. Now, it was not a perfect production. It had glitches, some oversights, some technical problems, and certainly no shortage of controversy. But, did it deliver on Donald Trump's promise that he can produce like no politician can.
Let's discuss with someone who knows the media side of this business very well, CNN senior reporter for media and politics, Dylan Byers. What grade do you give it, my friend?
DYLAN BYERS, CNN SENIOR REPORTER FOR MEDIA AND POLITICS: Well, I give the first three days a D.
CUOMO: Ooh.
CAMEROTA: Why?
BYERS: Well, first of all, you have nothing -- you have nothing exciting enough or you have no showbiz whatsoever, at least not enough showbiz to get in the way of some of the issues that we discussed in the past.
CAMEROTA: What about his appearance with the steaming smoke machine and the silhouette?
CUOMO: Let's show it, let's show it. (Video playing)
BYERS: There is that.
CAMEROTA: What about that moment?
CUOMO: Wait, let's show it. Don't kill it yet, I love it, I love it. I think we should start the show like this every morning.
CAMEROTA: Welcome to your new day.
BYERS: Just a -- just a silhouette of you two.
CUOMO: Not since -- not since Hitchcock has a silhouette been as arresting as this one.
BYERS: There is something very WrestleMania about that.
CAMEROTA: OK.
BYERS: OK, so that --
CUOMO: Come on, there it is.
BYERS: -- is a perfect example of showbiz, right, but not enough to trump the Melania plagiarism thing. No showbiz on the second night, not really. The third night was big, but then the Ted Cruz thing got in the way. Now, the good news is that people have short memories and that when it comes to a convention, well you do have to fill four days.
The nominee -- that speech is the one that matters. When we leave Cleveland, what we're going to be talking about is what Donald Trump did last night. Not what his kids did, not what Ted Cruz did, although that will be an issue, but really what Donald Trump did.
And in terms of showbiz, he delivered there. He came out, he had the flags behind him. He had, you know -- the camera was bigger on his face. I mean, there was a lot -- there was a lot of imagery there that was very powerful for his base.
CAMEROTA: But what were some of the technical or production glitches that you think it was riddled with?
BYERS: Well, the glitches on the third night, I mean, were terrible, at least if you were on the floor. It was the screens.
CAMEROTA: The screens -- the screens weren't working.
BYERS: And, you know, you can't see it behind us now but the screens were just like a disaster.
CUOMO: Right.
BYERS: I mean, but they had to turn them black.
CAMEROTA: Oh, they were --
CUOMO: Just to be clear about why you care because people aren't going to view this like a Broadway production, but you're saying it goes to part of Trump's promise structure --
BYERS: Yes, absolutely.
CUOMO: -- which is I know how to get things done.
BYERS: I know -- I know how to manage better than anyone else. I know how to -- I know how to put on a better show than anyone else. I know how to run the country or any of my businesses better than anyone else. And if you can't -- now, maybe the glitches aren't his fault, it doesn't matter. This wasn't a showbiz convention. This wasn't what we were promised.
We didn't get, you know, big A-list guests. We didn't get, you know, a coherent message, a coherent platform, and then we had these technical glitches. And then, of course, most of all, if he's such a great negotiator he should have been able to either bring Ted Cruz around to endorsing him or not letting him on stage.
CAMEROTA: How have the ratings been?
BYERS: The ratings -- the ratings have been fine but they haven't been Donald Trump ratings. They haven't been Donald Trump with the 25.1 million viewers for that first debate back --
CUOMO: Explained, simply enough, by saying he wasn't on all the time.
BYERS: Now, that's true. Now, so the big ratings that we have to look for are the ratings that are going to come out tomorrow, which are going to reflect -- or, today, which are going to reflect what happened last night.
CUOMO: Last night.
BYERS: And now, look, if he brings in major ratings that's actually a sign for the fact that he might upend expectations in terms of how much support he has out there. But, if on this night, when he's, you know, presenting himself to the country as the nominee of the Republican Party and he can't bring in big ratings, that's a bad sign.
CAMEROTA: Dylan, thank you. Great to have you here all week with us.
BYERS: Thank you, guys.
CAMEROTA: Great talking to you.
CUOMO: So, Donald Trump pulling out the stops last night, as Dylan's telling us. This was the big one. This was the moment and he did go big, at least in one way, no matter what your politics are. It was the longest acceptance speech in decades -- 75 minutes. My eyes tell the story. Look at the bags. The question is, whom did he reach? He pleased the crowd here. Did he broaden his base the way he needs to? Answers ahead.
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IVANKA TRUMP, DONALD TRUMP'S DAUGHTER: As president, my father will fight for you all the way, every time.
D. TRUMP: The situation is worse than it has ever been before.
RNC DELEGATES (Chanting): USA, USA, USA.
D. TRUMP: Violence in our streets, chaos in our communities. America is far less safe.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You look at America. What the hell's going on here?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Are you ready for change?
RNC DELEGATES: Yes.
D. TRUMP: I am the law and order candidate. I am your voice.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is NEW DAY with Chris Cuomo and Alisyn Camerota.
CAMEROTA: Welcome to our viewers in the United States and around the world. You're watching NEW DAY. We are live from the Republican National Convention, as we have been all week, here in Cleveland. Well, it was a defiant Donald Trump accepting his party's nomination last night, declaring that America is in crisis. Trump says the problems are getting worse and that he's the only one who can fix them.
CUOMO: Trump also took on the competition. He was blaming Hillary Clinton in a big way, basically saying the status quo that isn't working, there's one person to blame and it's Hillary Clinton. Now, the question is whom did he reach out to? Did he broaden his base? We've got every angle covered for you. Let's begin with CNN's Phil Mattingly. Phil, tell us about it. PHIL MATTINGLY CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Chris. The themes, they weren't new, but the delivery raw with ominous tones and bold promises. There was nothing subtle about Donald Trump's message last night.
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D. TRUMP: I humbly and gratefully accept your nomination for the presidency of the United States.
MATTINGLY: In the biggest speech of his life, Donald Trump declaring America's in crisis.
