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Aired February 05, 2010 - 21:00 ET
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JOY BEHAR, HOST: Tonight on THE JOY BEHAR SHOW, it`s Friday, and I thought I might go out to the movies this weekend. But instead I think I`ll stay home and try to get a copy of the John Edwards sex tape. You know I love political discourse, it`s so stimulating.
And Elisabeth Hasselbeck has survived "Survivor," and five years on "The View," surely she can survive and interview with me here tonight.
Then Mackenzie Phillips has been in television, in movies, and now she is in recovery. And she shares a surprising insight with me. All of this and more starting now.
From politics to showbiz, there was plenty to feast on this week. The main course being John Edwards. So let`s dig right in with my guests, comedian Judy Gold; US Weekly senior editor Bradley Jacobs; and comedian Cory Kahaney.
OK. Ladies and gentlemen, National Enquirer this week came out with another story, you know, they`ve been on top of this story, my goodness. They want a Pulitzer, it`s a stretch, but they`re saying that John Edwards hit Elizabeth. Do you believe that? I mean, Andrew Young was on with me last night. He said that John had a temper, but no hostility. I found that...
JUDY GOLD, COMEDIAN: I can`t imagine him hitting her, I mean, unless she messed his hair up. But other than that...
(LAUGHTER)
BEHAR: Yes, what do you think, Cory, do you think...
CORY KAHANEY, COMEDIAN: I think the best was she said that him hitting her was the last straw. Oh, so him cheating on you while you were dying of cancer, that wasn`t the tipping point. It was when he smacked you. That`s -- you know...
BRADLEY JACOBS, SENIOR EDITOR, US WEEKLY: And it is in a series of...
BEHAR: But I don`t know if its true.
JACOBS: It has been a series of revelations that came out that got denied. Everything -- oh, and, well, actually that happened. So now we`ll admit to that, but we`re not going to admit to that. And then, well, actually, that happened, yes, we`re going to admit to that too.
So it`s really hard to say what is reality with this couple.
BEHAR: I mean, can you imagine if he became president? I mean, the Democrats would be...
KAHANEY: It would have been bad...
BEHAR: ... in worse...
GOLD: ... position than we are now.
(CROSSTALK)
BEHAR: Unbelievable, unbelievable.
GOLD: And he was almost there.
BEHAR: And this guy, Andrew Young, who was on my show last night, I want to show you, he was with me this week, and I asked him a special question. Take a look.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
BEHAR: Her relationship with you is kind of weird, I think. I mean, I was reading she confided in you about so many details, even about the condition of her vagina. I mean, that is so strange. What was up with that? And what is the condition of her vagina?
(LAUGHTER)
BEHAR: Now that you know.
ANDREW YOUNG, AUTHOR, "THE POLITICIAN": I`m proud to say, I have no - - I would always say, TMI, TMI, too much information.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BEHAR: Really, but, now it`s TMI. It was in chapter four in the book. What do you think, I made this stuff up? I mean, is there such a thing as TMI in any of these books?
GOLD: Absolutely not. And I want to know what the condition of her vagina is. I do.
BEHAR: Well, that was the question that is hanging on everybody`s mind this week.
GOLD: No pun in hanging.
JACOBS: I mean, am I the only one that feels...
(LAUGHTER)
JACOBS: Am I the only one that feels like this guy a good thing for himself, which was to write a book and explain his side of it? You know, your boss comes to you and says, I want you to take the fall for me, I want you to pretend that you`re the baby daddy. I think that he had every right to write a book and get his side of it out.
BEHAR: I agree with that. He did, he is a sleaze too, though, for going along with it all. But at the end of the day...
JACOBS: If your boss comes to you, Joy, and says, this is what I want you to do? As he said in your interview, he is a dad, he is a provider for his wife and kids, you know, what exactly...
KAHANEY: And he said he`s a great dad, he`s a great dad.
JACOB: Well, the point is, he`s a...
BEHAR: What do you think of Rielle Hunter? She like sees auras around people. She says that babies are reincarnation of the -- of a Buddhist monk. She`s a kook.
KAHANEY: She is out of her mind.
BEHAR: She is a kook.
KAHANEY: And they have a sex tape.
BEHAR: They have a sex tape.
KAHANEY: They have a sex -- and she was pregnant, so it was a three- way.
BEHAR: OK. Let me tell you...
(LAUGHTER)
BEHAR: I know, that`s funny. That`s funny.
You know, some of the best sex is in your seventh month, just saying.
KAHANEY: Really?
(LAUGHTER)
BEHAR: OK. In the book, Young details watching the sex tape with his wife Cheri. And he says: "Cheri and I dropped to the floor and watched speechless. When were able to talk, we debated turning it off, but neither of us could actually press the button."
They dropped to the floor.
GOLD: Well, that`s what I do when I`m watching porn with my husband, we drop to the floor.
(LAUGHTER)
BEHAR: I mean, I don`t know. Did any of you ever do a sex tape in this panel?
GOLD: Oh, my God.
JACOBS: I need my lawyer here.
BEHAR: OK. All right. Let`s move on. Here`s a stunner. There was another outburst this week from Mel Gibson, or as I like to call him, the "anti-Semitic wonder from down under."
(LAUGHTER)
BEHAR: Mel cursed at a TV reporter, so does Mel have anger management issues? Does the "Octo-mom" have stretch marks? OK.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
MEL GIBSON, ACTOR, DIRECTOR: That`s almost four years ago, dude. I mean, I`ve moved on, I guess you haven`t.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Thanks a lot for joining us, Mel. Take care. Bye-bye.
GIBSON: (expletive deleted).
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BEHAR: We had to bleep the -- you know, the A-word out.
GOLD: I love how he`s like, it was almost four years ago, so we should forget about it. Just like the Holocaust was just 60 years ago. So let`s just forget about that.
KAHANEY: He`s acting like a rich kid, you know, who is like upset with his parents because they won`t give him the car keys. Oh my God! You`re still mad about that? Oh my God! That was like four years ago. Please get over it.
JACOBS: And I don`t like that he uses the words "mea culpa." He said, I did my mea culpa. Well, that`s for the media to decide. When you`re writing about Mel Gibson, you call it a mea culpa, what he did. For him to say, I did a mea culpa, just showed that he didn`t ever even really mean it, he just knew that he had to say something.
BEHAR: Oh, that`s interesting. I always thought when you do a -- when you commit a sin, and then you said mea culpa, mea culpa, that`s -- Catholics do that, don`t they? They beat themselves like this, mea culpa, mea culpa.
GOLD: I said I was sorry.
BEHAR: Yes, I learned something from you today. Well, you`re both Jewish, Judy and Cory.
GOLD: Yes, I happen to be Jewish, shocking.
BEHAR: Are you ready to move on? Can you forgive him ever?
KAHANEY: No!
GOLD: I`m never forgiving him.
KAHANEY: Well, because he doesn`t seem at all sorry. He`s like, I can`t believe you guys. You know, he has fallen so far. At his opening premiere, there were no stars there. I mean, even Snooki and "The Situation" wouldn`t walk down the red carpet.
(LAUGHTER)
BEHAR: Even Snooki, wow, that`s bad.
Now let me ask you something, Mel says the insult was directed at his publicist. Does that get him off the hook at all?
JACOBS: No. He was just spinning, re-spinning this story. You watched the tape, you can see that he wasn`t calling his publicist an a- hole. And even if you believe that, why would that make sense? Why would he call his publicist...
BEHAR: He`s just a big loser, isn`t he?
GOLD: He is.
BEHAR: Yes. OK. It was also a big week for political pundits as Jon Stewart went after FOX News on Bill O`Reilly`s show. Take a look.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
JON STEWART, HOST, "THE DAILY SHOW": Here is what FOX has done through their cyclonic perpetual...
BILL O`REILLY, HOST, "THE O`REILLY FACTOR": Back to the cyclonic.
STEWART: Their cyclonic perpetual emotion machine that is a 24-hour a day, seven-day a week, they`ve taken reasonable concerns about this president and this economy, and turned it into a full fledged panic attack about the next coming of Chairman Mao.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BEHAR: OK. Did Jon Stewart pretty much sum it up? I think he kind of put the FOX in its place, in a way.
GOLD: He really did.
BEHAR: And what they`ve been up to.
GOLD: He really did. And it`s exactly what they do. They try to fear -- it`s all fear-based and it`s really scary to watch that crap.
BEHAR: Is it?
GOLD: And he`s a comic.
BEHAR: I don`t find it scary.
GOLD: Yes -- I mean, well, if you believe it, it`s pretty scary, you know.
BEHAR: Yes, I don`t really buy any of it, I guess. How about you?
GOLD: Yes, I don`t buy it either?
JACOBS: I`ve been "FOX`d" before. It was not a good experience.
BEHAR: You have?
JACOBS: On -- yes, on that network. And I`m -- you know, I applaud Jon Stewart for going on and facing O`Reilly. You know, I know that they have done it before. But they do have really strong feelings about each other. And, you know, it`s...
BEHAR: Do you think they really can`t stand each other or is it they know it`s good ratings, it`s good TV?
JACOBS: I actually think that they really can`t stand each other, but they do know that it will get people paying attention and people like us will be talking about it elsewhere.
BEHAR: What do you think, Cory?
KAHANEY: Well, I was going to ask you, because you have had him on "The View" so many times. He -- it seems like...
BEHAR: Who, O`Reilly?
KAHANEY: Yes. Everybody seems to like him when he is on. So maybe he is like nice off camera.
BEHAR: Well, he is not the warmest or friendliest, but, you know, he does his job. He does what he does.
KAHANEY: I thought Jon was very good.
BEHAR: Listen, I don`t argue with success. The guy has humongous ratings and we`re hoping that we will too.
KAHANEY: Right.
BEHAR: You know? I mean, that`s the name of the game.
KAHANEY: But you have Anne Coulter on...
BEHAR: I do.
KAHANEY: ... and you don`t agree with a word she says.
BEHAR: Yes, but he has the opposites on. I mean, it`s the other -- some of them don`t, but he does, right?
(CROSSTALK)
GOLD: Now do you like Anne Coulter? I mean...
BEHAR: I don`t mind her. She`s fine. It`s showbiz.
GOLD: Right. And that`s exactly what...
KAHANEY: Jon Stewart took the high road, because at one point O`Reilly said, you know, all of your audience is, you know, slacker stoners. And Jon could have said, and your audience is, you know, inbred meth addicts...
BEHAR: But he didn`t.
KAHANEY: He didn`t go there.
BEHAR: No, he didn`t. That`s true. He took the high road. That`s so good of Jon Stewart.
OK. Reports say Tiger is ready to check out of sex rehab. And the wife Elin is down in Mississippi to take him from the Gentle Path facility. What do you think?
GOLD: If she stands by him, I mean, first of all, he is in rehab for what, six weeks? So that`s 42 days.
BEHAR: I think it`s four weeks.
GOLD: He was in four weeks. Four weeks, and what`s that? Two days per mistress? I mean, come on.
BEHAR: Why is she taking him back? Is it money? Does she really care? What do you really think? Talk from your gut here. Yes, go ahead.
JACOBS: We need to get into the head of Elin. My gut says she is not quite sure yet. She has a huge decision to make. She has a lot of people watching her all the time. She has lawyers to work with, publicists. It`s a very big deal. So she just doesn`t want to walk away until she is absolutely sure.
BEHAR: Uh-huh. Well...
GOLD: I don`t know, I mean, I just don`t want to hear in six months her, you know, crying on some -- on your show, going, but he promised.
BEHAR: Yes. I mean, come on.
GOLD: But why is it that like a regular guy that cheats is just a jerk, but then a celebrity has -- is a sex addict. I mean, it`s just incredible to me.
BEHAR: I wonder what Mel Gibson thinks about that.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
GIBSON: (expletive deleted).
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(LAUGHTER)
BEHAR: But do you think he`ll keep it in his pants now that he is back with Elin?
GOLD: Absolutely not. Don`t you think so?
BEHAR: I mean, I don`t know, I don`t think it`s going to work.
KAHANEY: Maybe it worked. Maybe for him it was like a baseball card collection, and it was like, need him, need him, got him, got him, because he has got all 14...
(LAUGHTER)
KAHANEY: And, I mean, you know, he slept with 14 women, I mean, you know, he`s a golfer, that`s like 58 under par. I mean, maybe that`s what the goal was.
GOLD: Yes.
BEHAR: Yes. Well, I hope so. We`re praying for all of them, aren`t we?
GOLD: Yes, we are.
BEHAR: The Edwardses, the Woodses, the -- not Gibson.
GOLD: No Mel, I don`t want to pray for Gibson.
BEHAR: Thanks, everyone.
Mackenzie Phillips and Dr. Drew join me next.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
MACKENZIE PHILLIPS, ACTOR: We got high together.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Her dad stuck her first needle in her arm for her.
PHILLIPS: My dad shot me up when I was a teenager with coke.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And he was like (INAUDIBLE), my daughter and I party?
PHILLIPS: Oh yes, he used to say, got any drugs for your old dad?
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BEHAR: Former sitcom star and author if "High on Arrival," Mackenzie Phillips, has led one of the most melodramatic lives in Hollywood, public battles with drug addiction, near fatal overdoses, an arrest for drug possession and revelations of an incestuous relationship with her father.
They`ve all brought her to VH1`s "Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew" Pinsky.
Mackenzie, welcome to the show. And with us also is Dr. Drew Pinsky. Now, Mackenzie, let me ask you, in your book you admitted to doing drugs and also having consensual sex with your dad. How has your world changed since you came out with all of those revelations?
PHILLIPS: Well, first of all, I would like to re-frame my word "consensual." I didn`t really -- as I was writing the book, I thought, this word, it kept sitting wrong with me. But I used it for lack of a better word. And since then I`ve been schooled by thousands of incest survivors all across the world that there really is no such thing as consensual incest due to the inherent power a parent has over a child. And so I wouldn`t necessarily call it a consensual relationship at this time.
But how has it impacted my world? I`ve had so many people come forward saying, I never had the strength to tell my story. I had one woman write me an e-mail on a social networking site saying, you didn`t ask for an army, honey, but you`ve got one now.
It has been an incredible experience, becoming a part of a community for me.
BEHAR: It is true that consensual sex is really a misnomer for somebody in your position.
PHILLIPS: Absolutely.
BEHAR: All right. I agree with you. And it implies that you went along with -- I think it was maybe your age. You were older at the time and so maybe that`s why you thought it was consensual, you were not a child.
PHILLIPS: I took a lot of responsibility in "High on Arrival" because I was trying to preserve my father`s memory for some reason, you know, which is also a very typical thing that you`ll find survivors doing. I mean, and I`m learning all of this after the fact, after I`ve already bared myself, you know, in the book.
BEHAR: Uh-huh.
PHILLIPS: But thank you for that, for agreeing with me...
BEHAR: Yes.
PHILLIPS: ... on that.
BEHAR: I agree with you.
PHILLIPS: And I know Drew, Drew is with me on that.
BEHAR: Drew, you agree with that also, of course, right?
DR. DREW PINSKY, HOST, "CELEBRITY REHAB WITH DR. DREW": Oh, absolutely. I mean, the child is trying to make sense of this situation, and she feels as though the only way she can survive it is by saying, I`m creating it, I have some power in this, I`m consenting to it, when the fact is, the kind of relationship a parent has with a child makes consent really impossible.
BEHAR: That`s right. Well, how has Mackenzie been doing in treatment? Or how did she do?
PINSKY: Mackenzie is fantastic. In fact, she does so well -- she and I had discussed this the other day, she does so well, I sort of do something unfair to her, which is, she is always my go-to person. She is somebody who is so solid in recovery I know she can bring the conversation back to sobriety. And when I would do that over and over again with the other patients, later in the course, I think you`ll see it on television, turn on her and actually set her up as sort of -- some sort of teacher`s pet or a narc or something, and become very resentful towards her.
And I`ve apologized to Mackenzie a few times about that.
BEHAR: I see. Well, I guess that kind of stuff...
PHILLIPS: No need to apologize.
BEHAR: You know, Mackenzie, you said something about your father on "Celebrity Rehab" that surprised me. Let`s look at it.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
PHILLIPS: My father sat me down once and he said, listen, kid, it`s pretty much always better to tell a lie than tell the truth.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BEHAR: That is striking that, that statement. How old were you when he told you that?
PHILLIPS: I was probably 13 or 14.
BEHAR: You must have had a reaction to that. I mean, all children know that that`s not right, to hear something like that. What was your reaction?
PHILLIPS: My reaction was, well, you -- first of all, you have to take into account that you have this larger-than-life man who is so powerful in his charisma and his personality. You`re like, oh yes, well, you know, he seems to be doing OK, maybe this is true.
But then, you know, I come from being raised by my mother and my father in two separate homes. And so there was always this sort of dual world for me, the world that my father represented and the sit-up- straight/know-which-fork-to-use world of my mother.
You know? And so I was always sort of torn between these two worlds. And I`d go, well, maybe dad is right, but maybe mom is right. So I was always conflicted and confused. And that really confused me. And I tried to live by -- you know, my dad would always say, you`re a Phillips, the rules don`t apply to you.
You know, and so when you`re a child and this is your hero, you think, well, I guess he is right. And then life teaches you an entirely different lesson and you have to find out for yourself what the truth really is.
BEHAR: You know, I was wondering that after you came out with all of this last year, there probably were people who didn`t believe you, right? I know that -- was it Michelle Phillips did not believe you? I remember interviewing someone about that.
So that`s painful to hear, isn`t it?
PHILLIPS: Michelle has known about this for many years. And the fact that she came out saying that I have mental illness and that I`m a liar really shocked me. I mean, I know she had vowed to do anything she could to discredit me, which I think was in order to protect The Mamas and Papas brand.
I never ever expected her to turn on me in such a personal way. But the fact is I love Michelle and I`ve always had to try and, you know, sort of contort myself to understand what she is doing, and she has had to do the same for me. So I grant her her thing and she needs to grant me mine. And I love Miche (ph), you know? It`s very hurtful.
BEHAR: That`s very generous of you, I think.
Dr. Drew, I wonder what you think about addiction and incest, do they go together often?
PINSKY: Very, very common. In fact, Mackenzie`s dad saying to always lie is sort of the credo of addiction. It`s also the credo of households where victimization is going on and dysfunction and boundary violation.
The fact is, in my world where somebody -- if somebody has severe enough addiction -- now I`m not saying that all addiction is preceded by this, but if you develop severe enough addiction that you need to see me, there is nearly a one hundred percent probability that you`ve had physical abuse or childhood sexual abuse.
And that abuse is more often than not in the home.
BEHAR: Do you think that`s true of prostitutes -- girls who become prostitutes also?
PINSKY: Well, of course, that goes without saying. They`re people that don`t even have...
BEHAR: They kind of go together...
PINSKY: Yes, that don`t even have a body -- a boundary around their own body, where their body has sort of always been victimized. And humans have this strange habit of recreating the traumas of their past. If things are terrorizing in childhood, we go out and reproduce them and reenact them in our adult life. And that`s what strippers and prostitutes tend to do.
BEHAR: Uh-huh. Mackenzie...
PHILLIPS: But then there comes that amazing time where you feel like, I`m free, I don`t have to do that anymore. I don`t have to keep reliving my past in order to be OK in my present. The present becomes something worthwhile in and of itself. And the past and the future really are kind of -- lack meaning because you`re free in that -- in your present moment.
(CROSSTALK)
BEHAR: Well, it sounds like you`re doing much better. Stay right there, both of you, we`re going to come back with more from Mackenzie Phillips and Dr. Drew in just a minute.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Who is that?
PHILLIPS: It`s my dad.
CROWD: Woo! Yes!
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What do you want to say to him? What do you want to say to him?
PHILLIPS: Why didn`t you say you were sorry?
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BEHAR: Mackenzie, did you take lessons from Tiger Woods`s wife there or what?
(LAUGHTER)
PHILLIPS: That was incredibly freeing, to be able to break stuff. That was kind of fun.
BEHAR: And was it really? I bet it was. Do you use that as a technique, Dr. Pinsky, to get the aggression and the anger and the rage out often?
PINSKY: Yes, we do sort of -- occasionally we`ll do expressive therapy, as a patient they can tolerate it. But, you know, in Mackenzie`s case, she already was so far along in terms of sort of she is able to deal with the immense anger and hatred and also at the same time, her love for her dad have pulled these two things together. And behold -- and I think - - I just commend her for telling her story publicly. Because now we all get to see who Mackenzie is.
She is not a drug addict who is in trouble with the law all the time. She is a complete person that I hope people themselves learn to understand something about themselves through her story.
BEHAR: I think she is very brave to tell her story...
PHILLIPS: Thanks, Drew.
BEHAR: ... and it`s a very difficult story to tell.
Now you wrote this about the incest with your father, you wrote: "I am the only daughter that this happened to, and I don`t know why he chose me to visit his demons upon."
Did you come to any conclusions about -- on that fact lately?
PHILLIPS: You know, I haven`t really tried to -- I haven`t been dwelling on this stuff anymore. I mean, it`s out there and it`s true and it`s -- you know, it`s there for other people to look at. But, you know, it doesn`t really matter anymore why he chose me. He did, but I`m still here. And...
BEHAR: Yes.
PHILLIPS: ... you know, I feel like I`ve given a voice to people who feel like they don`t have the strength to have a voice. And that`s...
(CROSSTALK)
BEHAR: I would just think that -- yes, I would just think, Dr. Drew, that it`s an interesting thing for incest victims because there is a kind of a confusion even there that you are the one who was chosen. So that must make you feel guilty, and which adds layers onto the healing process. Am I right?
PINSKY: Yes, absolutely. This is absolutely characteristic that one child is sort of set out as special. On one hand it makes you feel the sort of grandiose powerful sense of being the one, on the other hand shattered and guilty and conflicted. It`s so shattering to a child to go through this.
BEHAR: It really is the worst thing that can happen to a child.
Now, Mackenzie, you forgave your father on his deathbed, did that help you to heal?
PHILLIPS: Yes. I thought it would. I thought, you know, OK, we`ve finally -- I finally laid it out on the table and, you know, he died while I was holding his hand. I happened to be the only one of his children there, for whatever reason.
And I thought I would be free. And I went on to relapse. And so I realized that there is some work that I had not done, and now I`ve been able to go and do that work and, you know, be clean.
PINSKY: It`s, of course, you know, very evocative for anybody to lose a parent. And that`s what you have to understand, even though Mackenzie and her dad had all of this stuff going on, it`s still dad, it`s still the loss of a parent. And she still has addiction. And those things emerge in times like that.
I just want to say one more thing, too. Again, I`m calling out everyone that took issue with Mackenzie`s story. What is in it for her to make up a lie like this? I mean, why...
BEHAR: I don`t know.
PINSKY: ... would somebody -- I mean, no way, I mean, just -- and by the way it fits very -- it very much fits with how I understand Mackenzie`s case, and there is absolutely no doubt in my mind about the veracity of what she is telling us.
So for everyone else that doubts that...
PHILLIPS: Thank you, Drew.
PINSKY: ... please, let that go. Let that go.
BEHAR: OK. I`m glad you cleared it all up on my show. Thank you both very much to being here -- for being here.
You can catch them both...
PHILLIPS: Thank you.
BEHAR: ... on VH1 "Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew" Thursdays at 10:00 p.m. Eastern. Back in a minute to talk to Mo`Nique about her Oscar nod.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
BEHAR: She has already taken home Golden Globe and Screen Actor`s Guild awards for her work in the movie "Precious." So it comes as no surprise that the fabulously talent Mo`Nique snagged an Oscar nomination for best supporting actress this morning. She joins me now by phone.
Mo`Nique, are you there?
MO`NIQUE, SINGER, ACTOR: Hey, Ms. Joy.
BEHAR: Congratulations.
MO`NIQUE: Thank you, sis.
BEHAR: Are you excited? You must be so excited and thrilled, right?
MO`NIQUE: I am so excited and thrilled, baby.
BEHAR: Well, who called you to let you know you got it?
MO`NIQUE: Actually I was on the phone doing an interview early this morning, and I could hear the feed from on the phone so I heard directly.
BEHAR: Oh, so it wasn`t -- it hasn`t really come as a shock to you. I mean, after the other nominations and awards you`ve gotten, I mean, you must have known that this was coming down the pile, right?
MO`NIQUE: I`ll say this, I`m very appreciative of it coming down the pike.
(LAUGHTER)
BEHAR: Well, you know I`m a big fan, and if I could vote, I would vote for you, but I happen to not be a member of the academy, so I can`t vote for you.
MO`NIQUE: That`s all right. I`m going to take your vote in spirit, Joy.
BEHAR: That`s right. Well, did you immediately start celebrating, you know, have a drink with your hubby and all that stuff?
MO`NIQUE: You know what, actually I was in the car on my way to the playground and Sid was still home. So it was like 8:30 this morning. So we called -- I called him and said, hey, baby, they said my name. He said, that`s right, mama. And that was our celebration.
(LAUGHTER)
BEHAR: Have you thought about the dress? I`m looking at (INAUDIBLE) of you walking on a red carpet with a beautiful gold dress. What -- who are going to wear if you -- you know, to the event, what are you going to wear?
MO`NIQUE: I`m going to wear Tom and Linda Platt.
BEHAR: I don`t think I know them. Spell it.
MO`NIQUE: P-L-A-T-T.
BEHAR: Oh, Platt. OK. All right.
MO`NIQUE: Yes. Yes, you may not know them, Joy. They`re top of the line.
BEHAR: I see -- no...
(LAUGHTER)
BEHAR: No, you`re right. Listen, I still shop at Chico`s, OK?
(LAUGHTER)
BEHAR: What do you pick out first, the dress or the jewelry?
MO`NIQUE: You pick out the undergarment first, baby!
BEHAR: That`s right, the brassiere.
MO`NIQUE: Usually that`s what people need to know about, what goes under the dress.
(LAUGHTER)
BEHAR: OK. Well, you know, I offer you my sincere congratulations on this, because I really think you deserve it. And I`ll be rooting for you that night. Thanks again for coming on the show.
MO`NIQUE: Thank you, sister.
BEHAR: OK. I`m joined now by someone I sit next to every day. She`s an author, fashion designer, mother of three, and when she finds the time, one of my co-hosts on "The View." I`m happy to have the author of "The G- Free Diet: A Gluten-Free Survival Guide," my pal Elisabeth Hasselbeck.
ELISABETH HASSELBECK, CO-HOST, "THE VIEW," AUTHOR, "THE G-FREE DIET": Hi, Joy.
BEHAR: Hi. As I was saying to you, I don`t need gluten-free, but if you need it, this is the book to get.
HASSELBECK: Sure, well, if -- certainly if you have Celiac Disease, it`s a must.
BEHAR: Right.
HASSELBECK: Celiac Disease is a precursor to many others, so you need a gluten-free diet. And then others, if you have any sort of intolerance, IBS, they tend to do really well on this diet. And even interviewing a doctor as I did, Dr. Weil, for instance, says that this is most healthy way to eat.
BEHAR: Yes.
HASSELBECK: And many more people are shifting to this kind of eating just for benefits alone in terms of health exercise and energy.
BEHAR: Who do you find more sexy, Dr. Weil or Dr. Oz?
HASSELBECK: Ooh, that`s a tough one.
(LAUGHTER)
BEHAR: I think it`s hands down Dr. Oz.
HASSELBECK: I love Dr. Oz. He actually, you know, worked with me on the book.
BEHAR: How about Dr. Phil?
HASSELBECK: Ah.
(LAUGHTER)
BEHAR: How about Dr. Brothers, you remember her?
HASSELBECK: How about Dr. next topic?
(LAUGHTER)
BEHAR: Oh, OK. So, you know, isn`t it great that Mo`Nique is nominated for "Precious"?
HASSELBECK: I know!
BEHAR: She is a wonderful actress.
HASSELBECK: Congratulations.
BEHAR: Yes.
HASSELBECK: Congratulations to her.
BEHAR: And Sherri Shepherd is in that film, "Precious."
HASSELBECK: We were talking today, because, you know, this -- we`ve been talking "Precious" for a long time, you know, Joy, all behind the scenes, we`ve known about this. And Sherri has talked about it almost every day. And it`s going to be cool. She`ll get to go, right? Doesn`t she get to go all glammed up and go?
BEHAR: Yes, she`s all ready to go.
There are times when you and I get into it a bit on "The View," OK? In fact, it happened on today`s show. Let`s take a look.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP FROM "THE VIEW")
WHOOPI GOLDBERG, CO-HOST, "THE VIEW": ... this crap out.
BEHAR: Look at the difference between this administration and your last administration...
HASSELBECK: Yours too, by the way, it was your president as well, the last administration.
BEHAR: Well, I did not support him.
HASSELBECK: Are you an American?
(CROSSTALK)
HASSELBECK: This is my president too.
(CROSSTALK)
BEHAR: Oh, calm down, I support the country, I don`t have to love the president.
HASSELBECK: Don`t tell me calm down and dismiss my emotional...
(CROSSTALK)
BEHAR: Listen! This is a free country, I don`t have to love Bush.
HASSELBECK: Did you lose anyone at 9/11?
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BEHAR: Ugh, it`s painful to watch.
HASSELBECK: That was fun.
(LAUGHTER)
BEHAR: You know, I`ve never watched it.
HASSELBECK: You know, I can always tell when a topic really gets you, because it`s the hair. Your hair goes, my voice goes high, it`s just wild.
BEHAR: Oh my God.
HASSELBECK: It`s wild. It is wild.
BEHAR: Most people think we hate each other. We actually do get mad. But we don`t hate -- people have to know, let`s just straighten this out right now.
HASSELBECK: Right.
BEHAR: Tell them.
HASSELBECK: I have nothing to say.
(LAUGHTER)
BEHAR: OK. OK. Let`s try this. You say one good thing about Obama and I`ll say one good thing about Bush.
HASSELBECK: What is this, therapy?
BEHAR: Try it. Yes, just think of one good thing.
HASSELBECK: How long is your show?
BEHAR: One good thing.
HASSELBECK: He did some great commentary at the games this weekend, at the hoops, you know, did you see you him, the college basketball games? He did a good job.
BEHAR: That`s good. That`s all right. That`s minimizing but it`s fine.
HASSELBECK: I`ve said nice things.
BEHAR: Let`s see, George Bush, I love the way his jeans look on him. He looks better in jeans than even Scott Brown. OK.
(LAUGHTER)
HASSELBECK: Can I go?
BEHAR: Is there some opinion of mine that you would like to change?
HASSELBECK: Just one.
BEHAR: Well, what, give me a couple.
HASSELBECK: A couple.
BEHAR: What would you like to convince me of? Because I don`t -- I have to tell you, on our show, I don`t have any desire to change your opinions.
HASSELBECK: No.
BEHAR: Because I think it makes good television for us to argue.
HASSELBECK: I also have no desire to change your opinions, A, because I know it would be impossible, but, B, also...
(LAUGHTER)
HASSELBECK: I also -- I don`t think -- I think it`s actually why it works on our show, because we`re not out to change the other person`s opinion.
BEHAR: Right.
HASSELBECK: That`s -- that would be just tedious. But I do think that the conversation is great because we do believe what we do believe.
BEHAR: We do believe it, though.
HASSELBECK: Yes.
BEHAR: In our gut.
HASSELBECK: Not in an obtuse way, like not that you`d ever not consider the other side. I think we`re considerate of the other opinion. It`s just we`re worlds away in terms of where we stand sometimes.
BEHAR: We have (INAUDIBLE) to opposites sides of -- politically.
HASSELBECK: Sure.
BEHAR: But not in everything.
HASSELBECK: No.
BEHAR: We agree on a lot of things.
HASSELBECK: We do.
BEHAR: Child-rearing, for instance, things like that.
HASSELBECK: Yes.
BEHAR: But, you know, there is one thing I have to give you a lot of credit for. You spotted John Edwards the sleaze before any of us did on the Democrat side.
HASSELBECK: Yes. I do take credit for that feeling.
BEHAR: You do. We were -- I can tell you the...
HASSELBECK: Not just because he was a Democrat.
BEHAR: No. No, no, no.
HASSELBECK: No.
BEHAR: I mean, he could have been any -- he is just really -- we`re furious with him on the left.
HASSELBECK: Yes, when was it? It was at the convention.
BEHAR: It was at the Democratic Convention and they got a shot of him -- you know, like the camera pans and this -- I remember you saying this to me, and he was dat-dat-dat-dat-dat-dat-dat, and then they said to him, John, look at the camera, and he went...
HASSELBECK: Yes, he did.
BEHAR: And you said, look at that, what a creep.
HASSELBECK: Yes, I did. I said what a creep. And what is he? He is a creep.
BEHAR: Yes.
HASSELBECK: So...
(CROSSTALK)
HASSELBECK: I have a great detector for creepiness.
BEHAR: Mm-hmm. Now we`re going to -- I have Twitter questions just splattered through.
HASSELBECK: Oh, fun.
BEHAR: OK. So here`s one. A viewer would like to know if you have any Democrats in your family.
HASSELBECK: I -- most of my friends and family are either independents or Democrats. So I`m definitely in the minority in terms of my politics.
BEHAR: So is this a rebellion of yours?
HASSELBECK: No. It`s just, you know, I was kind of raised, my parents never told us who they voted for. They had raised us to hear both sides and it wasn`t as though something was, you know, forced on us politically or pushed in one direction, it was just, let`s talk about all of the candidates, and we always did. And we were able to just form our own opinions, which was great. And we never felt as though we had to rebel against anything, because we didn`t know.
They just wanted good things for the state, good things for the country, and that`s the way we were brought up.
BEHAR: Yes, but, you know, I sort of don`t remember...
HASSELBECK: Are most of your friends Republican?
BEHAR: I live in the Upper West Side.
(LAUGHTER)
BEHAR: Let`s get real, all right?
HASSELBECK: Do you have any outside of me?
BEHAR: Republican friends? I do. I have one in Germany.
HASSELBECK: One!
BEHAR: Not in Germany...
(LAUGHTER)
BEHAR: I meant to say Jersey! Germany slipped out. I swear! I swear. You believe me, don`t you?
HASSELBECK: I believe that you have one Republican friend...
(CROSSTALK)
BEHAR: I have one in Jersey, I have you. That`s about it, I think. I mean, I don`t -- I`m not surrounded by Republicans, exactly, in my life, you know?
HASSELBECK: Yes.
BEHAR: So that`s why I welcome the conversation.
HASSELBECK: It`s a good conversation.
BEHAR: Oh, and one of my friends who works at the show, her husband is a big Republican.
HASSELBECK: Right.
BEHAR: Big Republican.
HASSELBECK: Big Republican.
BEHAR: Big. But I mean, they want to know also, has there ever been a Republican you didn`t agree with? That`s another Twitter question.
HASSELBECK: Sure. I think there is a huge misconception out there. And you know, we just -- we`re playing around and maybe feeding into that, but I think the -- truth be told, I think the country and most individuals are going toward looking at what each politician stands for regardless of their politics.
BEHAR: Yes.
HASSELBECK: And I hope that we`re able to move away from, hey, I`m siding with so-and-so because they`re a Republican. Sure there are Republicans that I`ve disagreed with in the past, and I probably will going forward. And not every single person do I align with all of what they have to say.
BEHAR: Right.
HASSELBECK: You know, I think that`s a cool thing about Scott Brown, actually, when you look at what he stands for, he is not your cookie-cutter Republican at all.
BEHAR: No.
HASSELBECK: In fact, he probably...
BEHAR: He is a moderate.
HASSELBECK: ... much like John McCain, would not be the person that, on paper, someone who would say, he`s going to lead the party. But in fact, he may end up doing that because he is doing what American people are doing in moving more center on some issues.
BEHAR: Yes, but a lot of people say that once he gets into the -- into Washington, he`ll go right -- he`ll revert to what they want.
HASSELBECK: No, I don`t -- I don`t get the sense from him. And I have cautioned Republicans too that are close to me not to fall in love with somebody too quickly. We`ve seen that happen, unfortunately.
BEHAR: Yes.
HASSELBECK: We`re kind of impatient when it comes to politics now. So I think we`re quick to fall in love with the candidate, want them to save the party and then become president, and then we`re, like, whoa, what is happening?
So I think with Scott Brown, he doesn`t seem to give the impression that he is out to sort of make anybody happy, he`s out to really surface and survey what is good for the people that put him into office.
BEHAR: Yes. What about when he said, my daughters are available, though? That was obnoxious.
HASSELBECK: I think -- you know, I think there with the -- the neat was is he was speaking like a dad of teenage and twenty-something year-old daughters. You know, you kind of always want to make the guy that they`re dating make -- you know, think that there might be someone else coming.
BEHAR: OK. How old are...
HASSELBECK: Step up the game.
BEHAR: We`re going to come back with more from Elisabeth Hasselbeck in a minute. So stay there.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
JEFF PROBST, HOST, "SURVIVOR": You guys have been out here 39 days. Your once strong bodies are withering away. The question is, how sharp have you been able to keep your minds? That`s what we`re going to find out today.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BEHAR: Well, that`s my "View" co-host Elisabeth Hasselbeck on "Survivor" in 2001.
You spent 39 days in the wilderness, why?
HASSELBECK: That`s a good question. Willingly. In light of everything that has gone on with Haiti and other, you know, devastating information and news that we`ve had, that seems like something so, you know, created and safe...
BEHAR: Well, it seems frivolous, yes, I know.
HASSELBECK: But it actually was, you know, for me and...
BEHAR: It`s entertaining.
HASSELBECK: It was. It was the most difficult thing that I had to do physically ever, including the birth of three children. Like it was definitely challenging physically. I mean, there, I stood on a log, I think it was like eight hours -- eight-and-a-half hours.
And you know, I think that you just -- it was more about putting yourself in a situation that was uncomfortable and seeing how long you could tough it out. So I liked that challenge. I had looked at it as a marathon, a really long one, a game that I had, I was a team most of my life, so I loved the physical challenge, and I liked seeing kind of what it takes to get through something challenging.
BEHAR: Well, so what`s more challenging, 39 days in the wilderness or sitting between me and Barbara?
(LAUGHTER)
HASSELBECK: That`s a good one.
BEHAR: That`s a tough one, yes.
HASSELBECK: That`s a toss up.
BEHAR: We have some video of you from "Survivor," where you stood on a wooden pillar for nine hours.
HASSELBECK: Mm-hmm.
BEHAR: I mean, I wouldn`t -- that`s...
(CROSSTALK)
HASSELBECK: It wasn`t -- I wish I could have done it for nine, I think it was like eight-and-a-half.
BEHAR: Oh, sorry.
HASSELBECK: Well, (INAUDIBLE) take credit for more than...
(CROSSTALK)
BEHAR: Did you imagine you were a Greek goddess or something? And how did you do that? I mean, didn`t you fall?
HASSELBECK: No. I didn`t. I ended up jumping off at the end just because -- after eight-and-a-half hours I just -- my body was shaking, I couldn`t stand it anymore.
BEHAR: Really, did they feed you?
HASSELBECK: No.
BEHAR: You just stood up there like that.
HASSELBECK: Just stood. It was about 12 inches in diameter.
BEHAR: Look at you, you were a kid. How old were you there?
HASSELBECK: I was 23 years old. That was what, 10 years ago almost. Almost 10 years ago. See, we did it almost through the night.
BEHAR: Yes, you wouldn`t do it again, would you?
HASSELBECK: I don`t think I could leave the kids at this point, you know, to do it. But I do like a challenge, you know? So standing on that log was a good point of mark for me in terms of what I could endure. So if you think you`re going to move me on politics, I stood on that log for eight-and-a-half hours, I`m going nowhere.
BEHAR: I know. I realize that. You`re a tough cookie. You`re pretty but you`re tough.
(LAUGHTER)
BEHAR: I sound like I`m picking her up in a bar.
(LAUGHTER)
BEHAR: You`re pretty but you`re tough.
Did you ever disagree politically with other "Survivors"?
HASSELBECK: I don`t we talked politics. Oddly enough, we were there during the 2000 election, and we were there thinking we were going to come back not knowing who won, but no one else really knew either when we got back, so. There was a little miscount.
BEHAR: Now I love your children. I love Gracie -- I mean, I don`t know the other two as well. I love Gracie. She is the most adorable child. And just like Eloise. And...
HASSELBECK: Yes, but you guys always have good talks when she comes in.
BEHAR: Yes, when you first came to the view, though, you told me you wanted five. Now you have three. Are you going to have two more?
HASSELBECK: Yes, I will not -- I don`t think, will have more kids.
BEHAR: No?
HASSELBECK: It`s not in the plan right now. But who knows? I tend to be poor at planning. I think that three is good. Three is good. I don`t know what I was talking about with five.
BEHAR: Did you give -- you had natural childbirth?
HASSELBECK: I did.
BEHAR: Me too. No eye makeup, no lipstick.
(LAUGHTER)
HASSELBECK: Funny.
What do you mean by natural, like, no...
BEHAR: Like vaginal?
HASSELBECK: Yes.
BEHAR: You did. Because I was watching "The Today Show," and they had a baby being born, right, from a cesarean, it was live this morning.
HASSELBECK: Yes.
BEHAR: And then when that 10-pound baby came out there, I thought that the nurses and everybody were very rough with that baby. There was -- but Whoopi says that that`s natural, to slap the baby around to make sure all the parts are working.
HASSELBECK: Right.
BEHAR: Did you see your baby right away?
HASSELBECK: Every birth is sort of different. And I`m still sort of, you know, post-traumatic from the last birthing experience. But I remember with Grace, she had a little trouble breathing at first. So they would take her and they kind of -- you know, to give her a little slap, get everything going, it`s fine.
BEHAR: It`s OK?
HASSELBECK: They`re fine. Babies are tough. I mean, look, you`re not talking abuse. There are actually, you know, medical professionals doing what they need. I think the alternative would be to sit there, look gently, hold the child, and yet they`re not getting all that fluid out of their body, they`re not breathing.
BEHAR: What about those babies that swim out of you? You ever see that? Leboyer.
HASSELBECK: Where are these dolphin babies? I don`t know what you`re talking about.
(LAUGHTER)
BEHAR: Little...
(CROSSTALK)
HASSELBECK: Guppies.
BEHAR: I mean, they come out and they just swim. It`s like Esther Williams, you know, remember her?
(LAUGHTER)
BEHAR: They`re just little Esthers all over the place. I don`t know, I just thought it was a little...
HASSELBECK: Little Michael Phelps.
BEHAR: ... rough on the kids.
HASSELBECK: You know, I didn`t see it, so I can`t say how rough it seemed. I do know that that they -- it`s jarring. I think birth in general is jarring...
BEHAR: Yes.
HASSELBECK: ... for any child. So they come in. There is a lot that has to be done. You know, they`re suctioning, they`re doing a lot. But they`re...
BEHAR: Yes, getting...
(CROSSTALK)
BEHAR: ... and dying, the worst, I totally did not approve of either one.
HASSELBECK: I can only speak for one side of that so far. But I think it`s...
BEHAR: Yes, so far.
HASSELBECK: You know, I would think that they`re doing what they need to do. But I don`t even know if I would want to see the birth on TV.
BEHAR: Yes. Now I was reading that this Celiac Disease, you didn`t even know you had it...
HASSELBECK: No.
BEHAR: ... until you were on "Survivor" because you were starving there on nine hours standing without food, for example.
HASSELBECK: Yes.
BEHAR: And then you realized, what?
HASSELBECK: Well, you know, going into "Survivor," and I probably wasn`t as open with the producers there as I could have been in terms of how I was feeling. I was really sick going in there.
BEHAR: Yes.
HASSELBECK: I was in pain every single day when I went to Australia.
BEHAR: What did you feel, stomach pains?
HASSELBECK: Stomach pain, bloating, lack of energy...
BEHAR: Like cramps?
HASSELBECK: ... pain all the time, yes. And, you know, I was diagnosed -- misdiagnosed at the time with IBS, Irritable Bowel Syndrome. And so when I went to Australia...
BEHAR: Can`t they think of something a little more sexy than Irritable Bowel Syndrome?
HASSELBECK: No, I mean, it`s complete B.S. for many people when they`re diagnosed with that because it`s essentially going in with a headache and someone saying, wow, you have a headache, thanks for nothing.
BEHAR: Yes, yes, yes.
HASSELBECK: The -- you know, being in Australia for a week, everyone else was starting to get more and more, you know, tired, weak. I felt better and better. I wasn`t having pain. I was feeling just almost clean there.
BEHAR: Because you weren`t really eating.
HASSELBECK: I wasn`t eating anything that I didn`t -- I didn`t realize what I wasn`t taking in was gluten, and it`s a protein found in barley oats, wheat, and rye. When I came back to the States, I started getting sick again, and I thought, what the -- I`m not -- I know I`m not allergic to the United States.
Came back, started doing more research, self-diagnosed myself with Celiac Disease, and then again six years later found Dr. Peter Green, head of the Celiac Disease Center in New York City, who diagnosed me formally with Celiac.
BEHAR: Wow. You`re like Darwin in the Galapagos.
HASSELBECK: Hey, you know?
(LAUGHTER)
BEHAR: You know?
HASSELBECK: I am.
BEHAR: You figured the whole thing out.
HASSELBECK: I did.
(CROSSTALK)
BEHAR: I love that story.
OK. Don`t go anywhere, I have more Twitter questions for Elisabeth when we come back.
HASSELBECK: I love those.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP FROM "SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE")
KRISTEN WIIG, ACTOR, "ELISABETH HASSELBECK": I just read something online, and I printed it out.
(LAUGHTER)
WIIG: Eight shows ago we were talking about Senator Barack Obama, and I said the Democratic Party engaged in criminal activities.
FRED ARMISEN, ACTOR, "JOY BEHAR": Why are we talking about this?
WIIG: Let me finish! Please! OK?
(LAUGHTER)
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Let. Me. Finish.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(LAUGHTER)
BEHAR: That`s funny, isn`t it?
HASSELBECK: It`s funny. It is funny.
BEHAR: They do us all the time.
HASSELBECK: They do.
BEHAR: Do you ever get -- people ask me if I`m offended. I`m flattered. Are you flattered?
HASSELBECK: I`m not flattered, but I`m not offended. You know, I mean, I don`t think -- I think she does a great job, Kristen Wiig, and I think it`s funny. I think she`s funny. They`re comedians...
BEHAR: Yes, she`s a very funny lady.
HASSELBECK: ... and you`ve got to enjoy it and roll with it.
BEHAR: She`s terrific.
HASSELBECK: And I love your, "so what, who cares?".
BEHAR: So what, who cares?
(LAUGHTER)
BEHAR: He got me down, I think.
All right. Here are some Twitter questions from people who just want to know stuff. Let`s see.
HASSELBECK: OK.
BEHAR: "Elizabeth, what is your response to the near non-existent percentage of blacks in the conservative Republican Party, both pre- and post-Obama?"
HASSELBECK: Well, I think oddly...
BEHAR: Oh, that`s interesting.
HASSELBECK: It is. But I think that there is probably a fact check needed there. I mean, if you look at -- if you`re...
BEHAR: I think it`s in the 90s, though, they`re mostly Democrats, black people.
HASSELBECK: But I -- no, if you look at Condoleezza Rice and you look at Colin Powell, the positions that they were able to hold.
BEHAR: Oh yes, at that level. They`re talking about the electorate.
HASSELBECK: At that level...
BEHAR: They`re talking about voters.
HASSELBECK: Look at how -- look at the positions that they held, though. Name me a Democrat who put a black woman, a black man in those positions before Obama.
BEHAR: I think Clinton, he had a couple.
HASSELBECK: I don`t know if they were...
BEHAR: Jimmy Carter.
HASSELBECK: ... secretary of state and such.
BEHAR: Well, we had Thurgood Marshall in the Supreme Court, I mean, there were things.
HASSELBECK: No.
BEHAR: Anyway, it`s a...
(CROSSTALK)
HASSELBECK: Inaccurate.
BEHAR: I asked you this, are you having more children?
HASSELBECK: I have print-outs of that.
BEHAR: How do you psych yourself up for the show being the lone conservative on "The View"?
HASSELBECK: That`s so funny to me. I sit in my office and do some stretching.
BEHAR: Do you? No, you don`t.
HASSELBECK: No. No. I think, you know, a lot of it is just being able to have a great conversation with everybody there.
BEHAR: We don`t go out there like that.
HASSELBECK: It`s not as though you need a pep talk before you go out just because you`re the only Republican. I think it -- you know, we`re able to have good discussions without some sort of, you know, push-ups and warm-ups beforehand.
BEHAR: That`s right. That`s true. I mean, this one says: "I`m actually quite intrigued by Elisabeth and her relationship you, Joy," she says, "two diametrically opposing views, but you seem to truly like each other. What is it about each other that you like?`
HASSELBECK: What do you like about me, Joy?
BEHAR: I have a lesbian fantasy, I don`t know.
(LAUGHTER)
BEHAR: Let`s see, no...
HASSELBECK: Well, I had thought you...
BEHAR: I`ve had those before though, I mean, you`re not the first.
(LAUGHTER)
HASSELBECK: Wow, I thought you`d behave more on this show than in the morning.
BEHAR: Oh, no. I don`t behave on any show.
HASSELBECK: I know you don`t. I know you don`t.
BEHAR: No, what I like about you is I think that you`re very fun and charming. And that what we do on the air is just strictly business.
HASSELBECK: It is. It is.
BEHAR: It is.
HASSELBECK: And I think too a lot is put on women who are having debates...
BEHAR: That`s right.
HASSELBECK: ... and the same expectation isn`t there for men, and the same critique isn`t there for men. And I would also say that, you know, I think we kind of have more in common than most people think.
BEHAR: Yes, we do.
HASSELBECK: You know, we kind of grew up in the same way...
BEHAR: Well, we`re both from Italian background.
HASSELBECK: Yes, I grew up in a, you know, small Italian community.
BEHAR: She had a brown wig on the other day and she looked like, you know, my cousin Tonia (ph).
HASSELBECK: Yes, well, that`s my natural color.
BEHAR: Yes, then I saw the fatch (ph), I saw the Italian fatch in there.
HASSELBECK: Yes, it`s there.
BEHAR: But when you`re a blonde, the Polish side comes out.
HASSELBECK: That`s right.
BEHAR: So anyway, any parting words before we go? I have to leave.
HASSELBECK: You have to go. Is this it?
BEHAR: I have to go.
HASSELBECK: Oh, but I`ve had so much fun...
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BEHAR: It`s so much fun.
HASSELBECK: I like it here, Joy.
BEHAR: OK.
HASSELBECK: I love your show.
BEHAR: Thanks for coming by, Elisabeth.
Her book is "The G-Free Diet," or the G-spot diet, it should be called.
HASSELBECK: No, it is not. No, "The G-Free Diet," all right.
BEHAR: All right.
HASSELBECK: Behave yourself.
BEHAR: Good night, everybody.
HASSELBECK: Good night.
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