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World Series Game One Tonight; Lewinsky Reveals Shame, Humiliation After Affair; Oscar de la Renta Dies at 82; Pistorius Sentenced to 5 Years

Aired October 21, 2014 - 06:30   ET

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MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: Thirty-one minutes past the hour.

Let's take a look at your headlines, and begin with breaking news -- Oscar Pistorius will spend five years in prison or at least that's the sentence he was given for murdering his girlfriend, Reeva Steenkamp, the defense says they expect him to serve only ten months. Prosecutors wanted him locked up for ten years. You'll recall Pistorius shot his Steenkamp in 2013 after he says he mistook her for an intruder.

Health care workers treating Ebola patients must train and wear new protective gear and they may not have any skin exposed, according to new guidelines from the CDC. CNN has also learned that four major military hospitals have been designated as Ebola treatment centers by the Pentagon for any U.S. soldiers who contracts the virus in West Africa. Evacuees will first be sent to Walter Reed Army Medical Facility in Washington.

If your car has been recalled for air bag problems, get it fixed now. That is the warning from the National Highway Safety Administration, they say inflators can rupture in the air bags, causing metal fragments to fly out when the bags inflate in crashes. The recall covers air bags made by Takata in close 5 million vehicles from multiple manufacturers, dating back to 2002.

That's not a criminal New York City police are chasing. It is a runaway carriage horse. The horse apparently broke free from its handler and bolted across midtown Manhattan. Police were able to corral the animal and return it to the stable. Now, of course as you can remember, there's been quite a lot of controversy there. Critics who are wanting horse-drawn carriage rides to be banned in the Big Apple. So, this is adding further fuel to that ongoing debate.

ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: Because this means the horses don't like carrying the carriages?

PEREIRA: That they ran, they want to be at work.

CAMEROTA: I see. He speaks for all horses.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: That makes a horse different from everyone else, how exactly? You can get away from it by running away from your job and don't worry about two cruisers coming after you.

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CUOMO: Got to have better fuel for the debate than that.

Did you see the horse running away the other day? That's a sign of exploitation. I don't know what is. If that horse could speak --

All right. So, here's some good news: baseball's World Series getting started tonight, the Royals hosting the Giants. Did you know it's been a 29-year drought for the Kansas City Royals? She did because her husband has been suffering all along.

CAMEROTA: I did know that. He loves them.

CUOMO: Andy Scholes is in Kansas City. Nice ribs in Kansas, don't kid yourself.

CAMEROTA: I know that.

CUOMO: So, Andy, Royals fans, they can't wait to get the game going tonight. Give us a preview.

ANDY SCHOLES, BLEACHER REPORT: Yes, Chris, it's an electric atmosphere here in Kansas City. Everywhere we go, we went to some barbeque place, had some ribs, they were excellent.

But everyone around town, they're wearing the royals blue right now, because the team, you know, they haven't been in the World Series since 1985. That drought will of course end here tonight.

Royals fans have had plenty to cheer about during the playoff run. The team has won eight straight games to start the postseason. No team has ever done that before.

Now, the Giants, they're unlike the Royals, they're used to trips to the fall classic. They're looking to win their third World Series in the past five years. Will they be able to stop the Royals' magical run?

The fans in Kansas City certainly hope not, because they've waited a long time for this moment.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You hope for this day to come. You wait and you wait and you wait and 29 years and now, it's here, you're like -- you know, it paid off.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I've been here all of my life. Season tickets with my dad, unbelievable. 1985 was awesome. 2014 -- again.

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SCHOLES: First pitch for game one here in Kansas City set for a little after 8:00 eastern. And the ticket prices for tonight's game one are going crazy. Just to stand in the stadium right now, going for more than 650 bucks.

So, clearly, the fans here in Kansas City, they've been saving their money for 29 years waiting for this moment to get back into the World Series.

CUOMO: Very cool for you to be able to be there, Andy. That's a lot of beef.

PEREIRA: Wait, wait, why was the word Giants not mentioned once during that whole conversation.

CUOMO: Because the first game is in Kansas City.

PEREIRA: Come on, can we talk about the Giants?

CUOMO: Do you feel you're being unfair to the Giants, Andy?

PEREIRA: Just saying.

SCHOLES: I know, I mentioned the Giants.

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PEREIRA: Barely.

SCHOLES: Michaela, they win the World Series in even years, they won this 2010, they won in 2012 and a lot of people think they'll win it this year.

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CUOMO: Squeaky wheel, Andy, write it off, squeaky wheel, squeaky wheel.

PEREIRA: Always gets the grease.

CUOMO: Kansas City Royals --

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CUOMO: We've given you some facts about the game as they're going along, especially if they're not that exciting. Royals, named after a beef, a livestock show.

CAMEROTA: I knew that.

CUOMO: Not like anything else Royal. That's how big beef is in Kansas City. The team is named after a livestock show.

PEREIRA: And the men on the Giants team are actual giants.

CUOMO: I don't know what it's named after, do you?

CAMEROTA: We will research that in the break and bring that to you.

Meanwhile, after years in seclusion, Monica Lewinsky is speaking out now about her affair with President Clinton and how she really felt about all this. We have her fascinating speech, straight ahead.

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MONICA LEWINSKY, FORMER WHITE HOUSE INTERN: Sixteen years ago, fresh out of college, a 22-year-old intern in the White House, and more than averagely, romantic, I fell in love with my boss, in a 22-year-old sort of way, it happened. But my boss was the president of the United States. That probably happens less often.

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CAMEROTA: That was Monica Lewinsky. Opening up to an audience in Philadelphia about her relationship with President Bill Clinton, and the humiliation that she experienced when it went public, calling herself, patient zero of online harassment.

Lewinsky said her new mission in life is to end cyberbullying. Lewinsky's speech coming on the same day she joined Twitter.

So, here to talk about all of that are CNN political analyst and editor in chief of "The Daily Beast," John Avlon, and his better half, Margaret Hoover, CNN political commentator and Republican consultant.

Fascinating to see Monica Lewinsky back and being sort of reflective, and that tone that she's using.

Margaret, what do you think?

MARGARET HOOVER, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: I think that Monica Lewinsky, like all Americans or all people deserves a second act in American life. This is a woman who as we all know was really banished and shamed and she spoke so eloquently and incredibly in a raw way, in a vulnerable way.

And I have, I frankly garnered such a huge amount of respect for her, for her courage, for her journey, and think that we in the media should, we're ready to move on. We don't want to relive the Clinton legacy. We don't want -- let's let her be a spokesperson for cyberbullying. She's an authority on this and she could be an incredible voice in this debate.

And I really put of respect for her and her process this is a real person who really suffered. She even spoke so candidly, she almost died.

CAMEROTA: She considered suicide. She talked about how she was feeling suicidal. In fact, let's listen to her talk about her public humiliation in the past years.

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LEWINSKY: I was patient zero. The first person to have their reputation completely destroyed worldwide via the Internet. When I ask myself, how best to describe how the last 16 years has felt, I always come back to that word: shame -- my own personal shame, shame that befell my family, and shame that befell my country, our country.

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CUOMO: John Avlon, fact: Monica Lewinsky paid a much bigger price for the affair than President Clinton. Fact or fiction?

JOHN AVLON, THE DAILY BEAST: Absolutely fact.

CUOMO: Why? Sexism? Good PR?

AVLON: No, you know, when you have the bully pulpit, people have to seen new context. If he would have been a manager at a sporting goods store, he would have been fired on day one. But when you have constitutionally protect office --

CUOMO: They tried to, they impeached him.

AVLON: But they can't, right, you know, unilaterally.

But I do think the speech was so thoughtful and funny at times. And she took the risk of intimacy, which great speeches have to do. And it reminds us 16 years after that constitutional crisis, that celebrity-driven scandal, the human collateral damage in that political witch hunt.

CUOMO: Witch hunt? How is it a witch hunt?

AVLON: Well, it was a politically motivated investigation to delegitimize a duly elected president of an opposition party. And whoever was caught in the crossfire was considered collateral damage. And there was an element of shaming, of humiliation, of cyberbullying, as she said. And she was patient zero to some extent.

Now, she survived, the president survived. He emerged with -- you know, left office with 60 percent approval ratings, and 15, 20 years later, you're able to see her in a deeper context that I think compels compassion. And that's what we -- should try to do a better job remembering in the first part.

CAMEROTA: I don't know that she survived, I mean, she survived literally.

AVLON: But she's alive, yes.

CAMEROTA: She's alive. But, I mean, her life has been a shadow of what it could have been, and she's talked about that. She didn't get jobs, she didn't have relationships, all because she was so shamed. But you know, I don't want to blame the victim here and I believe that she now after all that, because of the fallout, she was the victim.

AVLON: The president as well as the media and the investigators.

CAMEROTA: Of the cyberbullying, not of her action. But basically, shouldn't she have spoken out sooner? It is so poignant, it is so relatable. Maybe she shouldn't have waited 16 years to talk about it. HOOVER: I am really very cautious about criticizing anybody who's been

a victim to this extent. She was the first one, the only one that we've seen to be a cyberbullying victim to this extent. So, I think everybody has their own process, everyone has their own journey. Let's let her be a spokesperson for this. Let's let her speak out, and let's let her create a new identity for herself in the public eye that we can all respect and talk to and listen.

CUOMO: Didn't really happen, even after the "Vanity Fair" article, there is stink on her about this. And, I think - -

HOOVER: Only because we perpetuate it by saying things like that, Chris.

CUOMO: No, but I'm saying that the media won't leave her alone. She came out with "Vanity Fair," she wrote a very intelligent piece about it, right? Mocked right away, she should shut up. She should go away. If it happened today, if the sitting president, you know, we don't wish this on anybody on either side it, but do you think that there would have been this kind of reflexive ignoring of any kind of feminism, of any kind of gender balance, and just putting it all on her like happened then.

AVLON: Yes, I - - look. I mean, that was unprecedented in American history, right? I mean, we were all coming to grips with something in real-time that we never had to confront in real-time before.

CUOMO: We'd had presidents who had stepped out before.

AVLON: Absolutely, we'd absolutely had, but we'd never confronted it in real-time with evidence, and here's a country that has a tradition going back to, you know, the scarlet a and our puritan roots. So, this was a really tough, real-time confrontation with ourselves and our own hypocrisy. She got caught in the middle of it. Now, we're wiser now and I think the challenge is for us to then, when we see these scandals unfold in real-time, try to remember the human beings beneath them, as well as just that the pile on, and the spin, and the judgement.

CAMEROTA: And, you know, because she is now speaking out, and I think that this was my point, is that people respond differently.

AVLON: Sure.

CAMEROTA: So then there is sympathy, once you hear somebody in their own words, then there is sympathy. She joined Twitter, as we said, last night at I think 9:00 p.m. She tweeted - -

CUOMO: That was a risky move.

CAMEROTA: But, she tweeted this, and this is good news, I think. She tweeted #gratitude, #overwhelmed, #thank you.

CUOMO: She has 14,000 followers or so , but I'm just saying. If she wants to get the message out about cyberbullying, she's in the right place, being on Twitter. But I just hope she's ready to deal with what can happen there.

HOOVER: I think that clearly she is. She's taken her time, she's been amazingly thoughtful. I, you know, I want to hear more from her, and I really, I applaud her. I think she is a woman of real courage.

CUOMO: Yes.

HOOVER: And to put herself out there all over again, I mean, this is somebody that I want to hear more from and to allow her to create a new identity for herself so people can learn from her experience.

CAMEROTA: Margaret Hoover, John Avlon, thanks so much.

We want to know what you think about it. You can find us all on Twitter, too. Be part of the conversation. Also, quick programming note. Tonight Jake Tapper moderates the Florida governor's debate. The state's current governor, Rick Scott, and the former governor, Charlie Crist, go head to head 7:00 p.m. Eastern on CNN. Let's hope they both have fans.

CUOMO: So, Oscar de la Renta, he dressed first ladies, leading ladies, ladies who lunch. Pretty much anybody who wanted to be somebody needed to be seen in Oscar de la Renta at some point. This morning, we will remember the fashion designer, Mr. Oscar de la Renta. He died at the age of 82. We'll have a look back at his life and pioneering style. A man of true class that went well beyond fashion. Stay with us.

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PEREIRA: We hope you do indeed join us for that tonight, it's going to be a fantastic two hours. Anderson and I will lead you through all these great stories of us finding our roots. Quite the journeys, indeed.

Right now, though, we turn to some news breaking overnight. Iconic fashion designer Oscar de la Renta passed away. The 82-year-old made, most notably, made a name for himself back in the '60s when he dressed former first lady Jacqueline Kennedy. From there, his career soared, creations evolving into a staple of socialite celebrities and the leading ladies of film and television alike.

We want to turn to Eric Wilson, he's the fashion news director for "InStyle" magazine, to discuss the power this pioneer of fashion had on the industry. And I'm sure this news rocked your world quite a lot. I think so many of us looking back at how this man was able to stay so true to himself, Eric, yet stay relevant, right until recently with George Clooney's wedding.

ERIC WILSON, FASHION NEW DIRECTOR, "INSTYLE": Absolutely. He was really one of the founding pillars of American fashion. He helped create a very sophisticated look for American fashion that moved beyond blue jeans and work wear. We moved into twin sets and ball gown skirts because of Oscar de la Renta.

CAMEROTA: What made his fashion so unique? What defined it? WILSON: I think you could really summarize it by the words uptown,

sophistication, glamour, elegance. He really made clothes that women could just totally shine in, and that's true for more than five decades, and he really adapted over the years to create new looks that spoke to different generations.

CUOMO: Many become trendy, popular, successful in fashion. There was only one Oscar. What was it that allowed him to transcend even his business, and to be seen as somebody who had value in this society, beyond what he was putting out as product?

WILSON: Well, there's many answers to that question, but first and foremost, his personality. He was one of those designers who could charm anyone into an outfit. He could seduce the customer into trying on his clothes. And secondly, his philanthropy was incredible. I mean, the work he did in Dominican Republic with charities, orphanages, helping children here in New York is really quite legendary.

PEREIRA: Not to, you know, aside from very famous ball players, probably the most notable Dominican and very proudly. A bit of a diplomat and almost like an unofficial ambassador there. I think it's also interesting, too, that even after he was diagnosed with cancer, a tough time in his life to be sure, he was very ill, yet his business soared.

WILSON: Absolutely. There was a real turning point around "Sex and the City" when Sarah Jessica Parker mentioned his name on the show, that he recognized this was the moment to start attracting the daughters of the women he'd been dressing all these years.

PEREIRA: Clever.

WILSON: And cancer didn't stop him for an instant. He was working, you would you see him at the shows, even when he was in the worst of health over the last eight years or so, and he would continue working endlessly, just to make that business happen. Partly for his own interests, and partly for the people that worked for him.

PEREIRA: Did you have a favorite dress, a favorite gown? I'm sure you did. You had to have.

WILSON: I couldn't even begin, but I was just thinking of Michelle Dockery recently.

PEREIRA: Lady Mary from "Downton Abbey."

WILSON: Of course, I mean, that's an example.

PEREIRA: The one at the Globes?

WILSON: Golden Globes, yes. Sparkling silver dress, it was an example of how you make that ball gown look work for today's generation.

PEREIRA: Wonderful to have you here and remember this icon. His son, Moises is a designer in the company and likely will carry on the legacy of his father. Thanks so much for joining us, Eric Wilson from "InStyle."

WILSON: My pleasure.

CAMEROTA: Thanks, Eric..

CUOMO: Alright, we're going to be keeping an eye on the legacy of Oscar de la Renta as more information comes out about him, but that's just one of the stories. A lot of news this morning, so let's get to it.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Mr. Pistorius his rights.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just sentenced to five years in prison.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Things are going to change very dramatically for him.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: New guidelines for health care workers treating patients with Ebola.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Obviously there have been some missteps.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The guidelines up until this point were inadequate.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Brown's blood was found on Wilson's gun, inside Wilson's patrol car and on his uniform.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That tends to support Officer Wilson's testimony.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When your hands go up, the threat is over with, and Darren Wilson should have responded accordingly.

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CAMEROTA: Good morning, everyone. Welcome back to NEW DAY, I'm Alisyn Camerota along with Chris Cuomo. Great to be with you. And we begin with breaking news, Oscar Pistorius finally knows his fate, the blade runner sentenced to five years in prison for murdering his girlfriend, Reeva Steenkamp.

CUOMO: Now, that sentence itself could be a little shocking, but get this. He could only serve ten months of that sentence. Pistorius remaining stone-faced as the judge handed down her ruling, and he quickly left court in a police van. So, let's get to Robyn Curnow in Pretoria, she has the very latest. Robyn, any more reaction from down there how this sentence is being perceived?

ROBYN CURNOW, CNN CORRESPONDENT: We've had comments from Oscar Pistorius's uncle. He spoke outside the court. He said they're emotionally drained, exhausted. I think very importantly they felt quite angry, it was quite a strong statement from the Pistorius family, saying that they felt that the state had made the truth become totally irrelevant during this trial. We've also recently heard from the Steenkamp family, saying that they

thought, that they accepted this decision. Inside court, as you said, Oscar Pistorius's stoney-faced, stoic, very unemotional as he received that sentence. Everybody in court, too, Chris, pretty quiet, pretty unemotional afterwards. But, just take a look at the way the judge spoke directly to Oscar Pistorius as she handed down this five-year sentence.

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JUDGE THOKOZILE MASIPA, PRESIDED OVER PISTORIUS CASE: Count one, culpable homicide. The sentence imposed is the maximum imprisonment of five years.

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CAMEROTA: Robyn, we know that you recently spoke with Oscar Pistorius. What did he say?

CURNOW: Well, in the last few weeks, Oscar Pistorius seemed to become more accepting of his fate. I think he had been prepared by those around him that the possibility of a jail term was very real. And I got the sense, well he, he insinuated that he wasn't scared, that he wasn't afraid, that there was an acceptance about going to jail.

He seemed to want to contribute while in jail, suggested perhaps that he could perhaps start a gym club or help some of the inmates with literacy, with reading classes. So there has been, at least over the past few weeks, a preparation mentally and emotionally from him in terms of what happened today, was that he left court, went down (inaudible), got into a police van, and is being taken a local prison.

CAMEROTA: Robyn Curnow, thank you so much, and I just want to clarify, we said that he was just sentenced for murdering his girlfriend. It was actually culpable homicide. There's a distinction.

CUOMO: Absolutely.

CAMEROTA: In South Africa.

CUOMO: Everywhere. You know, it was a homicide charge, but there was no finding that he intended to kill Reeva Steenkamp, which is why he got a relatively light sentence. I'm saying that by American standards.

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