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Race Against Time to Free ISIS Hostages; U.S. Ally Reaching Deal to End Coup; Boehner Invites Netanyahu to Address Congress; Major Winter Storm on the Way

Aired January 22, 2015 - 06:00   ET

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JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: Time running out for two hostages held by ISIS.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm with you.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Japan is trying to open a line of communication with is.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Don't give up. I know are you not giving up.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: ISIS in Yemen, that could derail the war on terror.

JOHN KERRY, SECRETARY OF STATE: Our personnel are well protected.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think we ought to get our people out.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think we're going to see a state where there is no central government.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: John Boehner defying President Obama, extending an invitation to Benjamin Netenyahu.

REP. JOHN BOEHNER, HOUSE SPEAKER: I don't believe I'm poking anyone in the eye.

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ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY with, Chris Cuomo, Alisyn Camerota and Michaela Pereira.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning, welcome to your NEW DAY. It is Thursday, January 22, just before 6 a.m. in the East, and up first, a race against time with the lives of two hostages on the line. Japan says it has had no contact with ISIS. We're just hours away from the deadline to pay a $200 million ransom.

ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: Japan's prime minister vowing not to give into the terrorists, this as foreign ministers from 21 countries, including Secretary of State John Kerry meet in London today on how to battle ISIS in Iraq and Syria. We've got all of the angles covered for you this morning. Let's begin with Will Ripley live in Tokyo -- Will.

WILL RIPLEY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Alisyn, here there's a growing sense of urgency as the government tries to open some kind of a line of communication with ISIS, trying to buy more time. As the deadline approaches and the lives of two innocent men hang in the balance.

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RIPLEY (voice-over): This morning, less than 24 hours remain until ISIS's murderous deadline. Japanese officials say they've been trying to communicate with the Islamic militant group through third parties since Tuesday, turning to two governments in the region, Jordan and Turkey, for assistance. It's a race against time as the Japanese prime minister calls it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: To the prime minister of Japan, although you are more than 8,500 kilometers away from the Islamic state, you willingly have wanted to take part in this crusade.

RIPLEY: ISIS releasing this propaganda video Tuesday, threatening to kill two Japanese citizens, Kenji Goto and Haruna Yukawa, unless they receive $200 million. Forty-two-year-old Yukawa, an aspiring security contractor, reportedly captured in August. And this newly-released video shows 47-year-old Goto, just hours before his disappearance in late October. The video shows the freelance journalist along the Turkey/Syria border, preparing to cover what he calls the suffering of the Syrian people.

KENJI GOTO, FREELANCE JOURNALIST: It is my opportunity (ph), if something happens...

RIPLEY: The two reappearing this week, kneeling side by side in orange jumpsuits in front of a masked ISIS executioner.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You willingly have (INAUDIBLE).

RIPLEY: As the deadline looms closer, no indication if Japan will pay the ransom, the prime minister calling the deadly ultimatum unacceptable, though he hasn't explicitly ruled out the payment.

This latest hostage ultimatum coming after ISIS released videos showing the brutal executions of five western hostages since August.

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RIPLEY (on camera): Here in Tokyo, unnamed government sources are saying that Kenji Goto, the wife -- the wife of one of hostages, Kenji Goto's wife received an email in December after he went missing, from a group that is suspected to possibly be the ISIS kidnappers. That e- mail wanted a ransom between 8 and 16 million dollars. A sign that perhaps the terror group would be willing to accept a smaller amount. The question now: is the Japanese government willing to pay, and what would ISIS take? The urgency: getting the line of communication open, Alisyn.

CAMEROTA: Absolutely. Will Ripley, thanks so much for all that background. This is not the first time that ISIS has demanded millions for a hostage. Last August, the terror group wanted 100 million euros -- that's roughly $132 million -- before killing American journalist James Foley.

Are their demands a sign of financial desperation? Barbara Starr joins us from the Pentagon with more on their reign of terror. What do we know, Barbara?

BARBARA STARR, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Alisyn.

From the U.S. officials' point of view, it is all about the reign of terror. They believe that ISIS is continuing this for many reasons. Putting these videos on social media, they use it as a recruiting tool, believe it or not, and it does work for them. Also to terrorize the people already under their control in Syria and Iraq.

You know, ISIS has gained a lot of territory there in recent months, and what U.S. officials are closely watching, is ISIS stretched too thin? Do they have so much territory, so many people under their purported control at this point, that they may have trouble holding onto it and they may be needing to show their power because they are having trouble holding onto it?

U.S. officials watching a different ISIS trend even more closely. And that is the rebranding of ISIS. Export ISIS. We reported yesterday here on CNN that ISIS fighters, people claiming to be ISIS fighters were showing up in Yemen.

U.S. military officials tell me there are reports of ISIS fighters claiming to be ISIS fighters, showing up in southern Afghanistan. It is this issue of the export of their terror. Rebranding. People claiming to be ISIS going into the fight in other places.

That is one of the big concerns for the U.S., because if these types of export fighters, if you will, can come to the United States, carry out attacks here, claiming to be ISIS. It is a serious concern for homeland security -- Michaela.

MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: There is, indeed. Our thanks to you, Barbara.

Now to the crisis Yemen. Rebels holding the president captive have reached a tentative deal to end a violent standoff, agreeing to reform its constitution in order to get rebels to abandon government buildings. But who really controls this key U.S. ally? And just how much power does their president have?

CNN senior international correspondent Nick Paton Walsh got very rare access around the presidential compound, where damage from days of clashes is truly apparent.

Nick, incredible access you got.

NICK PATON WALSH, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: In the capital this morning, it appears as though this deal is holding to some degree. But a key element of it is yet to be realized. We are expecting, and part of the deal was that the Houthis would immediately release the presidential chief of staff. And that has not happened at this stage, according to the minister of information on her Twitter account.

So we're looking also at Houthi militia, who seem to be slowly removing themselves from around the presidential residence, the presidential palace. That was their side of the deal, too.

But the other side of the deal, that the government had to uphold, was substantial changes, it seems, to the new draft of the constitution. In fact, the terminology of the agreement was so wide, we don't quite know what the constitution will look like.

That's the key question for the U.S. here. Is their ally here, President Hadi, still going to be the man pulling the strings here? Or is he going to be a figurehead for a government effectively run by the Houthis, who really have proven they're the dominant force here on the streets of Sana'a.

A calmer day, but a lot of things still to get worked out. And that big question, when is the chief of staff coming home? That's not been answered. Things could still fall apart, although many wondering quite what the Yemeni president and army could do if they don't like how this is playing out -- Chris.

CUOMO: All right. Thank you very much, Nick. Please be safe there. We'll check back in with you later on.

Now, we're talking about Yemen, because it is the hub in the war on terror in some ways, with implications that could hit us right here at home. Now, few know the stakes better than Commander Kirk Lippold. He's the former commander of the USS Cole, when the warship was attacked by Al Qaeda while docked at a port, the port of Aden in 2000. Seventeen U.S. soldiers lost their lives. He's now a senior military fellow at Military Families United.

Commander, thank you for joining us.

COMMANDER KIRK LIPPOLD, FORMER COMMANDER OF USS COLE: Thank you, Chris.

CUOMO: Always a pleasure. Now, right now there are two U.S. warships. They're right there in the Red Sea. They could be very helpful. Obviously, in evacuating embassy personnel in Yemen. Should we do that now? What is the balancing test?

LIPPOLD: I think right now, and the next 24 hours are really going to tell. Obviously, the president has struck an agreement with the Houthi rebels that he will give them a more inclusive role in forming a new constitution which they didn't have before, which is why they continued to press their attacks in the capital.

But time will tell only very shortly. Because the reality is we need to make a decision. It is much better to conduct what we call a noncombatant evacuation operation, or a neo (ph) operation, where you do get these embassy people out under benign conditions where they're not under fire.

The last thing the Marines want to do, operating off the USS Iwo Jima, USS Fort McHenry, is go in in a hostile environment, where they have to create safe space, where they may have to incur civilian casualties, and trying to insure that we can get that embassy out safe. I think as you know, the last thing we want to do is have another Benghazi.

CUOMO: Understood. And that meaning that you see a threat coming, there's a chance to prepare and do things, and you wind up having hostage situations and much worse, so that's why we're keeping an eye on it. Now, why we're keeping an eye on Yemen at all, how important is what's going on there to U.S. interests all the way back here at home?

LIPPOLD: Well, Yemen really is the fulcrum of the war that we are currently waging against Al Qaeda.

CUOMO: Fulcrum is a good word. Why is it the fulcrum?

LIPPOLD: Because it is the balancing and tipping point where Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, which operates in free rein in some areas of Yemen, is still the greatest threat that Al Qaeda represents to this nation. In some ways they are competing with ISIS for recruits. They're trying to make sure they can strike us. I was very concerned that they're going to be able to launch an attack into Europe first, which clearly with the "Charlie Hebdo" attacks, that may have happened.

Their aim, ultimately, is to come to the United States and conduct an attack here. Because it would be spectacular. They would show that they have capability and that they still have the ability to man, train and equip their people to go out and do those type of terrorist operations.

CUOMO: What will you never forget about what happened on the USS Cole and what it taught you, not just about your fighting men and women but about the threat that exists there?

LIPPOLD: The biggest thing I think we as a nation learned is that when we are attacked by terrorists we must respond decisively and swiftly to make sure that they understand that American lives will be safeguarded anywhere in the world. I will never forget the 17 sailors that I lost. But by the same token, I don't want that loss to go in vain. We did nothing for 11 months. We had the 9/11 attacks. We're still living with the consequences of that today. We need to ensure that we hold these terrorists accountable for their deeds.

CUOMO: And yet, here we are again. Do we think that the government and the military that is in control right now in Yemen, can they hold there? And if not, what is the fate with these Houthi rebels? Can we work with them? What does this situation demand of the U.S. and the allies?

LIPPOLD: Well, Yemen is a very unique case. They -- the bottom line is they have never been a trustworthy nor reliable partner in the war on terror. They've allowed us to conduct operations.

CUOMO: They've helped more than some, Commander, as you know.

LIPPOLD: They have helped more than some. But you know, on a personal case, they still have one of the principal conspirators for USS Cole that they refuse to be allowed held accountable for what he did in killing 17 sailors.

By the same token, that government, albeit -- although it is more a government of the capital of Sana'a than it is the entire country, has allowed us to conduct operations, train with their people, teach them how to be better in counterterrorism operations so they can be more effective in not only countering AQAP, Al Qaeda on the Arabian Peninsula, but also in maintaining their territorial and government integrity as a nation.

CUOMO: So you have to have patience here to watch what happens, but also you're saying the U.S. and others must be ready to act, because the situation could be lost very quickly?

LIPPOLD: Absolutely. Because the last thing we want to do is see this government collapse, the Houthi rebels take over. You then have another stateless -- you know, broken state out there that doesn't control its territory, that cannot maintain control of AQAP operating on its territory. We don't need that type of entity.

We want to have a government that is capable of stretching its control out into the country to insure that these terrorists do not have sanctuary and safe haven.

CUOMO: If they can't do it, you're saying someone must do it for them.

LIPPOLD: Somebody has to.

CUOMO: Commander Lippold, thank you very much for your service.

LIPPOLD: Thank you, Chris.

CUOMO: Appreciate it -- Alisyn.

CAMEROTA: OK, Chris. Back at home here, House Speaker John Boehner defying President Obama over his policy on negotiations with Iraq. Boehner inviting Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to address a joint session of Congress next month about the Iranian threat. But the invitation is ruffling feathers at the White House.

Let's bring in White House correspondent Michelle Kosinski. She is live there. Tell us the latest, Michelle.

MICHELLE KOSINSKI, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Well, Republican congressional leadership in a press conference said two words: hell no, they won't be stopped by what President Obama wants to do. And this is being called a drama, a snub, a foreign policy confrontation. That Republicans reached out to the Israelis and invited the prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, to address a joint session of Congress in February.

He accepted. But all of this completely bypassing the White House. The White House said they haven't heard from the Israelis at all, and this is a departure from protocol as to what a world leader generally does before visiting another country.

House Speaker John Boehner says Netanyahu will discuss the threats posed by Iran and radical Islam.

This comes at a time that some in Congress, including some Democrats, want to impose more sanctions on Iran as Iran continues to delay in the negotiations over its nuclear program. The White House has said that they will veto additional sanctions, saying that negotiations are what are in the best interests of both the U.S. and Israel -- Michaela.

PEREIRA: Very interesting developments. Michelle Kosinski, thank you.

Want to turn to some breaking news now. A U.S. Navy cargo ship has run aground off the coast of Japan about six miles east of Okinawa. Right now we are told there are efforts under way to try and refloat that vessel. The 127 crew members are still on board. We have learned that they are uninjured. Fortunately, no leaks or hull damage has been reported. And at this point, no word on what exactly caused the accident.

CUOMO: Ukraine is now under siege. This is not just a skirmish. It's not localized civil unrest; this is a battleground. Ten civilians have been killed, dozens injured. Militants began shelling areas in Donetsk. Secretary of State John Kerry is accusing pro- Russian separatists of a blatant land grab. Ukraine claims it isn't just separatists; it is, in fact, Russian military. The president there says 9,000 Russian troops are fighting alongside rebel forces in Ukraine. Russia denies this, as they have denied any involvement from the beginning.

CAMEROTA: Take a look at these images. This is a massive fire destroying an apartment complex in Edgewater, New Jersey. The monster inferno is now contained, we're told. The firefighters are still on the scene battling it. The fire displacing more than 400 people, but incredibly, officials say everyone in this four-story building was able to get out safely. There's a local state of emergency that has been declared. And public schools in this town will be closed today. No word yet on what caused that fire.

PEREIRA: I'll tell you, we can smell the smoke here in Manhattan from across the river.

CAMEROTA: I drove by this on my way in this morning, and I thought, "Something big and major is happening over there. Should I stop and get some pictures of it?" I knew there was a news event unfolding.

CUOMO: We're about, where we live, probably seven, ten miles away.

CAMEROTA: Yes. CUOMO: It woke me up this morning. I thought there was something on fire in the house.

PEREIRA: You could still smell it here.

CUOMO: There's smoke on the streets here. This apartment building is alleged to have suffered...

PEREIRA: During conception (ph).

CUOMO: ... a big burn-down before.

CAMEROTA: Oh, my God.

CUOMO: So there's an investigation here, but the fact that everybody get out? What an amazing thing.

PEREIRA: Hey, I don't like to be the bearer of bad news. In fact, I won't be. I'm going to let Chad Myers do that. We have the year's first major snowstorm to sock the northeast this weekend. What, a foot of snow, and then round two right behind it, Chad?

CHAD MYERS, CNN METEOROLOGIST: Another one behind it for Monday. Now, the good news is, just like last week's ice storm for Philadelphia and parts of the Poconos, this happens on Saturday. It's already snowing in Oklahoma. But by Saturday morning, this storm gets into the northeast. And it will be cold enough to make snow.

Now I think in New York City it's going to change over to rain for a while, keeping the amounts down. But in the Poconos, Catskills, Adirondacks, Berkshires, for sure, there could be that eight-inch to 12-inch snowfall totals.

Here it is, all the way from Maine all the way back down, even to the west of Washington, D.C., Front Royal (ph) are going to pick up some snow. So maybe you'll want to go play in it, because it is, of course, a Saturday.

It depends on where the storm ends up. Is it in the ocean or closer? The closer it is, the warmer it is, but the farther off the drier it will be, so you won't get as much snow. It's this balance: where does the low set up?

So I'm going to go four to six for New York City, a little bit less, probably, on Long Island, because you're going to be warmer.

And here's the next storm system for Monday. I'm more impressed with this one, and that could make more headaches, because it's a Monday storm, not a Saturday storm. As it rolls through Monday afternoon into Tuesday, we'll keep watching it. More likely a nuisance storm, unless you're sliding around in it in your car, and then it's a big problem. So be safe. It's a Saturday.

PEREIRA: It is winter.

CUOMO: I see Alisyn's baptism by CNN gear out in the snow Monday morning.

PEREIRA: All right.

CAMEROTA: I hear you. Unbeknownst to you, I'm flying into New York. I'm flying out for the weekend, flying back in on Sunday. It sounds like I might not be able to get back for snow coverage.

CUOMO: We'll get you here.

PEREIRA: She's calling a snow day already. All right.

CAMEROTA: Thanks, Chad.

Well, the FBI wrapping up its investigation of former Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson. Will the officer who shot Michael Brown face federal charges?

CUOMO: Mitt Romney and Jeb Bush, only one can be the nominee. And so these two arch-nemeses have a date to hang out? What in the world could the potential Republican candidates be meeting about? We'll tell you.

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CAMEROTA: House Speaker John Boehner setting up a showdown with President Obama over nuclear talks with Iran. The speaker inviting Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to appear before Congress next month to address the Iranian threat, without informing the White House.

Here now to discuss this is Peter Beinart. He's our CNN political commentator and professor at City University of New York. And Margaret Hoover, a CNN political commentator, Republican consultant, and a Sirius XM host. Great to see you guys.

MARGARET HOOVER, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Good morning.

CAMEROTA: The White House feels as though Boehner is intentionally poking them with this Benjamin Netanyahu invitation, and it's hard to see it otherwise, Margaret.

HOOVER: They didn't -- they haven't actually said that. They said they're waiting to hear what's happened.

This does appear to be a direct response to the president coming to the chamber the other night and saying, "If you dare pass a sanctions bill, I will veto it." And it was not necessarily, as Republicans interpreted it, in the spirit of bipartisanship, facing the largest Republican Congress since 1920. The president to just start issuing veto threats isn't really in the spirit of working together.

So, you know, you can understand Boehner feels like it's his prerogative. He can invite whoever he wants to.

CUOMO: Unusual. Unusual. HOOVER: A little unusual but also bipartisan. I mean, there is a

sanctions bill moving in the Senate that is really being pushed by Senator Bob Menendez, a Democrat from New Jersey. So there is Democratic and Republican support for a sanctions bill that, as the president says, would derail negotiations with Iran.

CUOMO: What is the Israeli prime minister expected to say? Lay out what the arguments are here.

PETER BEINART, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: The Israeli prime minister will come and attack President Obama's Iran policy. Let me make no mistake about this. It's one thing for Boehner to disagree with Obama's policy.

It's another thing for him to invite a foreign leader into Congress with a specific intent of attacking his own president's policy. Imagine if Democrats in Congress, on the eve of the Iraq war, who were against the Iraq war, had invited the president of France to come to Congress to tell them why George W. Bush was wrong to want to invade Iraq.

CUOMO: The circumstances are a little different.

BEINART: The circumstances, but the point is, to invite a foreign leader specifically to come and attack your own president's policy? I can't think of any precedent for that.

HOOVER: I don't think it's that explicit, though. I think...

BEINART: What do you think he's going to do? I mean, he said already...

HOOVER: He's going to make a case for a strong -- a strong U.S. foreign policy against Iran, and who's better to deliver that?

BEINART: And he's going to endorse sanctions. He's going to endorse the sanctions that Obama administration is...

HOOVER: We'll see, they say that the topic of the conversation is actually going to be about radical Islamism and the Middle East and, you know, there is bipartisan support for Israel in Congress.

There are -- basically, there are three countries that I could think of where they have calculated that their support from the U.S. Congress is far more important than their relationship with the U.S. presidency. Taiwan, the Republic of China, Israel and, frankly, the relationship with -- between Cuba and the United States Congress is more important with the president, because they're the ones who control the embargo.

So these countries have made a calculation that their relationship with the Congress is far more important, and that is the key.

BEINART: But let's remember that Israel is deeply divided on this question. Benjamin Netanyahu is going to come and attack and support a sanctions bill, and attack a negotiating process, that his own intelligence agency -- there's a great piece out of Bloomberg today, noting that the Mossad, Israel's intelligence agency, actually, they take the Obama administration's position, believing that sanctions would blow up the negotiation process, which by the way, our intelligence agencies also take.

But what you -- Benjamin Netanyahu also remember, is facing an election in Israel in March. Essentially the U.S. is interfering in that election by giving him a huge soapbox to -- so he can go back to Israel and say, "Look how popular I am in the United States," while he's in the midst of a tough re-election fight.

HOOVER: It's Bibi's choice to come. And I mean, it's not -- to say the U.S. is interfering in Israel's election, I think, is a little bit much. I mean, you have American billionaires supporting Bibi's re- election.

BEINART: Well, that's exactly the -- Adelson is the key lynchpin here. Right? Shelden Adelson, the biggest funder of the Republican Party, is also a long-time huge funder of Benjamin Netanyahu. That's the lynchpin.

CAMEROTA: All right. Let's talk about our own elections back here, 2016. Joe Biden yesterday said that he would consider challenging Hillary Clinton in 2016. He hasn't decided. But in other words, that would not be a deterrent. Margaret, what do you make of Joe Biden's comments?

HOOVER: Hard to know if Joe -- Joe Biden is often loose-lipped. So it's hard to know if that was a strategic blunder if he was actually doing that on purpose or he -- if his tongue got ahead of his...

CAMEROTA: Skis?

HOOVER: ... planning. But I think it would be good for the Democratic primary and good for Hillary Clinton and good for the entire field to have more people who actually could be president running. Right now it's just -- Hillary has frozen the field. Everybody is waiting to see if she gets in. There will probably be a left-wing insurgent candidate, but that's it. That's not good, I think, for the Democratic Party.

CUOMO: Joe Biden is a supremely confident leader. He believes in himself.

HOOVER: Even when he's wrong.

CUOMO: But you know, is that a novel trait for politicians, that they have confidence even in the face of their own ignorance? Please.

But he believes that he can win.

CAMEROTA: OK.

CUOMO: I know this. He believes; he is not afraid of anybody.

CAMEROTA: But is that a kamikaze mission of his? BEINART: Yes. It's a political kamikaze mission. But I do think

Margaret's right that it would set up an interesting debate. And here's why.

He and Hillary Clinton have disagreed on a lot of the key foreign policy debates inside the Obama administration. On Afghanistan, he was much more reluctant to send U.S. troops. She's more hawkish at this point than he is. That would be a useful debate for the Democratic Party to have.

CAMEROTA: Romney and Jeb Bush are getting together in a meeting? What? What's happening?

HOOVER: It's interesting; it's been reported that this meeting was set up before Romney decided to tell donors that he's considering a run actively, and apparently, the meeting is still on. So, you know, it could be a -- sit-down at the table: does this really make sense for both of us to get in the race? What do we bring to the Republican Party? Do we both want to do this again?

I highly doubt Jeb Bush is going to persuade Mitt Romney not to run or vice-versa.

CUOMO: What a novel thing, though, for the big guys to meet themselves and have this kind of conversation.

HOOVER: Isn't that -- isn't that grown up?

BEINART: Actually, I really hate this so much.

CUOMO: What?

BEINART: I mean, what's essentially happening is, this -- voters are supposed to make decisions about which party -- about who people nominate and who we elect president. What we have now, this entire process has been basically donor-selection. And now the candidates are going to come together and say, "Oh, you know what? You managed to wrap up more donors than me, so I'll pull out." This is not the way a democratic process is supposed to work.

HOOVER: I -- but that's assuming that they're going to make a deal, which I highly doubt that. If Mitt Romney wants to run again, he's going to run again. Jeb Bush isn't going to convince him.

BEINART: But all the evidence, I don't think he's going to run, because I don't think he has the donor support.

CAMEROTA: To be a fly on the wall would be great. We'll see what happens. Peter Beinart, Margaret Hoover, thanks so much.

CUOMO: I do love the point that money is running the game right now. It's great to have you guys. Thank you very much.

All right. So here's our next story. For this family, it's the last shot at justice. We have new details about the civil rights investigation into Michael Brown's death. Do federal investigators have enough to charge Darren Wilson with violating Brown's rights? It's always been a very high bar. But we'll tell you the latest.

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