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Fate of ISIS Hostages Unclear; Romney to Announce 2016 Decision at 11am ET; Sneak Peak of Super Bowl Adds

Aired January 30, 2015 - 06:30   ET

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MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: Good to have you back with us here on NEW DAY.

It is unclear this morning whether a Jordanian fighter pilot and a Japanese journalist held captive by ISIS are still alive. The deadline to do a prisoner swap has long since passed. The terrorists seemingly have gone silent.

Let's get the very latest now from Jomana Karachi in Amman, Jordan.

What can you tell us now?

JOMANA KARADSHEH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Michael, what we know is that very little that the Jordanian government is choosing to come out with publicly. In a last few hours, we're hearing from the military here in a brief statement saying they're working around the clock to try to get an update on the fate of that captured pilot, Muath al-Kasasbeh.

Now, the Jordanian government's position has been made clear in the last 24 hours and they're insisting on that position. They say that offer to release the convicted, would-be suicide bomber as requested in the demand by ISIS is off the table now. They're not doing this until they get what they've been asking for -- proof of life.

The government says for the past few weeks, they have been engaged in indirect negotiations with ISIS to try and secure the release of the pilot. Throughout this process, they have been asking for any evidence to show that he is alive and well. And so far, they say they've not received that proof of life.

This country is on edge right now. Await anything word on his fate and, of course, the hardest hit by this is the family that have been going through unimaginable pain and suffering over the last month or so.

Chris, back to you.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: A horrible situation, dealing with a group that doesn't value life.

Thank you very much for the latest on that situation. An explosion at a maternity hospital left survivors scrambling through

rubble to find babies. Three lives were lost in this blast in Mexico, including two infants. The question is: who or what caused the blast?

The entire situation captured on camera. There were dozens of injury, including some 20 newborns, officials had inn Mexico everyone inside has been accounted for. A policeman seen in this dramatic photo, rescuing an infant from the rubble. He is being hailed a hero. We will stay on the story for you.

ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: The Senate passing a bill to approve construction of the Keystone oil pipeline. Nine Democrats joined Republicans to pass the measure. Republican House leaders will decide whether to vote on the Senate bill or try to reconcile it with their version, which already passed.

President Obama vows to veto any bill approving the pipeline while the administration continues to review the project.

PEREIRA: Now, Alisyn and Chris, for years, daredevils have attempted to conquer Niagara falls in a barrel this guy did the reverse-o. Yes, world-renowned ice climber Will Gadd. The first person to scale the 146-foot section along the edge of the famous horseshoe falls using nothing but ice hooks.

He says his biggest challenge wasn't chunks of falling ice, the frigid water dousing him, nor the death defying climb, but rather the year- long bureaucratic process to get permission to make the climb. He did get some, he said at the end of the day, I was hypothermic. He reached the top, apparently, he went up and down three times.

I salute you, Canadian (INAUDIBLE), just saying.

CAMEROTA: That's incredible.

CUOMO: Of course, he is. That's how you get to school up there.

CAMEROTA: That's incredible. The bureaucracy was worse than the hypothermia.

PEREIRA: Right? That looks intense.

CUOMO: That's the real deal.

PEREIRA: That's the real deal.

CUOMO: He did not let the man keep him down. Get the entendre?

PEREIRA: I saw that.

CUOMO: Felt good, felt good.

Team Hillary, they leak that this summer will be when they decide to run for president. A growing number of people now asking, do you want it or not? We have new insight as to why she delays. PEREIRA: And out here on NEW DAY, we're going to give you a sneak

peek at some of the hot new spots for Super Bowl Sunday. And do we mean hot. Too much or just right? You'd be the judge.

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CUOMO: Welcome back to NEW DAY.

I think this is a fair paraphrasing of President Obama to Mitt Romney -- I can't win the next election, but I can make sure you lose. Listen to what he said last night.

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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We've got a former presidential candidate on the other side who suddenly is just deeply concerned about poverty. That's great, let's go. Come on. Let's do something about it.

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CUOMO: I'm 47 percent sure he was talking about Mitt Romney.

To discuss why this is happening, CNN political analyst and editor in chief of the "Daily Beast," John Avlon, and CNN commentator and Republican consultant and Sirius XM host, Margaret Hoover. Those titles cannot be said any further.

MARGARET HOOVER, CNN COMMENTATOR: Good morning.

CUOMO: Avlon, why would the president waste his time on such?

JOHN AVLON, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: Oh, it is not wasting his time. I mean, first of all, he's just having fun, but he's pointing out the obvious, you know, flip-flop, and I think with the deeper point here, right?

I mean, the barb in the joke is look, if Republicans are going to care about poverty that may be ironic, but it's also a great thing in terms of moving the national agenda and maybe there's some common ground and maybe Democrats feel vindicated, because for a long time, Republicans have been MIA on the issue of urban poverty, particularly.

CAMEROTA: I had to check the calendar to make sure it wasn't 2012.

HOOVER: I thought -- no, but didn't he just say in the State of the Union he's not running any more elections?

You know, I agree with you. I think truly, if you, ask joking aside, it does seem a bit beneath the president who is not running another, another campaign to wade into this. You see I think in that instance, a guy who actually likes the partisan-ness, he likes the barbs and that is actually what I think has made part of the conversations and the negotiations with Congress over the last few years -- really gone rotten, because this is a guy who actually likes to win. And he likes to stick it to his opposition. But -- (CROSSTALK)

HOOVER: But it's -- I'm talking about President Obama right now.

CUOMO: It also applies to Mitt Romney.

HOOVER: Sure, it does. But, no, Mitt Romney is never going to stick a barb in like that it's not his style.

CAMEROTA: But Margaret's point is he's not staying above the fray. He's fighting again with Mitt Romney.

AVLON: Well look, he had a lot of practice with that, right? I mean you know, you got a whole election to talk about that. I do think it's a little -- I am all about bipartisanship and trying to find common ground.

CUOMO: Which you denote, by pounding a fist into an apparent wall. That's --

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CUOMO: That's all about compromise.

AVLON: But pretending you're going to take the politics out of politics or complaining when politicians act political, especially when they're having a little bit of fun and do a happy warrior, I think is a waste of time.

CUOMO: What did you write down on the "Wall Street Journal" and underline furiously, Margaret?

HOOVER: Barbs? It is good that Mitt Romney is talking about the poor. It's good that he's talking about poverty. Why wouldn't President Obama focus on --

CUOMO: Because Romney --

HOOVER: Rather than stick it to him politically. You already won the presidency.

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CUOMO: -- for the disorder and convenience of the Republican agenda.

AVLON: Boom.

HOOVER: You've already won, you're not running in 2016. Let Hillary Clinton. Let Martin O'Malley. You know what? Go make your presidential library, that's where you do your legacy.

CUOMO: I don't like it when you talk to me like I'm Obama. I don't like that.

CAMEROTA: Here's how Mitt Romney responded to the president, calling him out. He sent out a tweet, and he said this, "Mr. Obama, wonder why I'm concerned about poverty? The record number of poor in your term and your record of failure to remedy."

In other words, the president opened up this conversation and Mitt Romney stepped through the door.

AVLON: And that was a very well-vetted tweet.

CUOMO: It should have had a hashtag #boom.

AVLON: I think it is good. In all seriousness, let's have a debate about poverty. Different solutions, let's engage the debate. We haven't for decades on a bipartisan basis. Maybe it can turn into something constructive.

CUOMO: Segue, segue.

AVLON: Segue.

CUOMO: People want to talk about poverty, we should be talking about poverty. If you want to be president, shouldn't you be talking about these things?

CAMEROTA: Yes.

CUOMO: Why isn't Hillary Clinton? Does this mean she doesn't want it? Why being July? Is this just something just good for her but not good for the people? Because they need this debate?

AVLON: Yes. I mean, Hillary Clinton has been in her statements, in speeches since leaving the secretary of state's office, been very focused on the middle class, that's the core message, that's been the only message in effect.

What yesterday got floated is she might move an announcement date from spring to summer. Hillary Clinton, of all people, can afford to do this. But the problem is you got Godzilla in the Rose Garden. You got someone with a massive lead over the rest of the Democratic field doing a Rose Garden strategy.

And while she can pull it off, if anybody can, it does leave a lot of room for people to jabber, for other candidates to get stronger, that's danger of arrogance in that strategy.

CAMEROTA: Margaret, do you think she should sit it out until summer?

HOOVER: Look, I mean, she's the front-runner. As soon as she announces, all the arrows come at her.

AVLON: They are already coming at her.

HOOVER: She starts taking in all the flak. And so, actually, what it also does is gives her allies time to build up steam and to build up really a coordinated defense strategy to help protect her.

CAMEROTA: Very quickly. We want to show you an interesting exchange that happened in the Senate Armed Services Committee yesterday. It was between John McCain -- CUOMO: And everyone else.

CAMEROTA: And Code Pink. Code Pink protesters.

AVLON: I'm going with McCain on that.

CAMEROTA: Who were there to try to yell protests at --

HOOVER: To arrest a 91-year-old man.

CAMEROTA: Henry Kissinger, who you're referring to. Watch this.

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SEN. JOHN MCCAIN (R), ARIZONA: I've been a member of this committee for many years. And I have never seen anything as disgraceful and outrageous and despicable as the last demonstration that just took place. About you know -- you're going to have to shut up or I'm going to have you arrested. If we can't get the Capitol Hill police in here -- immediately? Get out of here, you low-life scum.

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AVLON: That's so good.

CUOMO: Now, what you can hear is yes, you have the right to protest. Everybody knows that. This happens in hearings.

The man was saying things that the senator found particularly offensive. And John McCain showed --

AVLON: I dig the inner Eastwood coming out there on the part of Johnny Mack.

I mean, look, Code Pink, the professional protester crowd really does have a way of irritating people and being their own worst enemy. What you saw there is John McCain's famous temper flaring, you got a 91- year-old former secretary of state, maybe controversial to some people. Cut down the B.S. a little bit.

HOOVER: And I don't know where those individuals are protesting were during Vietnam. But I know where John McCain was. John McCain was locked up in a hole being tortured by the Vietcong. So if anybody has a right to say you low lives get out of here, it's John McCain. The real story here is where the heck was the Capitol police?

CAMEROTA: In fact, John McCain talked about. He said he was going to look into it and do an investigation.

HOOVER: They have to. If we think Secret Service is bad. This is an incredible security risk.

CUOMO: Imagine what could have happened of those Code Pink people if they would have gotten too close to John McCain. People think he's too old to be president, let me tell you something, the more you know that guy, he's got plenty of firepower left. HOOVER: And you can carry in D.C. now.

CUOMO: She says with a smile.

CAMEROTA: John, Margaret, thanks so much.

CUOMO: Christmas came early.

All right. So, how about this? A lot of buzz around this year's Super Bowl commercials. Including one featuring a young lady named Kim Kardashian. It's gone viral and it isn't even a sex tape. That provocative entry and other laughers ahead.

Here's a sample.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Each month, millions of gigs of unused data are taken back by wireless companies. Tragic. Data you paid for, that can be used to see my makeup, my backhand, my outfits.

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CAMEROTA: It's good. All the crew guys' ears perk up. We're talking Super Bowl Sunday. Not just the biggest day for the NFL. Also for advertisers, do you ads sell for $4.5 million for a 30-second spot?

So, what commercials will we all be tweeting about this weekend?

Let's bring in Brian Stelter, CNN senior media correspondent, host of "RELIABLE SOURCES". Also here with us, Richard Kirshenbaum, author, columnist and CEO of the agency NSG/SWAT.

Gentlemen, this going to be good. There's some buzz already happening. Why don't we show the ad and then we'll chat about it I always love a puppy dog one. Apparently the world does, nine million views of Budweiser's lost dog. Take a look at it.

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PEREIRA: So, a big trend is these ads which we love the dog and the Budweiser and his Clydesdale buddies.

Richard, we're already seeing a trend in some of these ads being released ahead of time, aren't we?

RICHARD KIRSHENBAUM, CEO, NSG/SWAT: Yes. Well, people really want to see them ahead of time. They want to merchandise the $4.5 million. So, they do stuff before, they do it during and they do it after. It's very important.

PEREIRA: And there are some that are foregoing the ideas of buying the expensive Super Bowl ads and having an ad that runs around Super Bowl time, right? BRIAN STELTER, CNN SENIOR MEDIA CORRESPONDENT: You make it seem like

it's going to run around the Super Bowl, when it's only going to run in one small market. But it's the people who buy the national ads that I care about because they're making a state. Like the Budweiser ads, they're in the game every year, they always have to top themselves every year. I think they did this year.

PEREIRA: What if you put Kim Kardashian in an ad. Seven million views of the ad promoting data. Which isn't necessarily sexy, let's take a look.

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KIM KARDASHIAN: Hi, I'm Kim. Each month millions of gigs of unused data are taken back by wireless companies. Tragic. Data you paid for that can be used to see my makeup, my backhand, my outfits.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

PEREIRA: Kind of genius celebrity buzz there.

KIRSHENBAUM: It is.

Well, first of all, the Super Bowl is about celeb, it's about sex, it's about apple pies. Kim is doing a great job with the sex part of it and celeb part of it. She really is.

PEREIRA: Brian?

STELTER: Well, it's a way for them to promote a new campaign, and to make a statement. They're not AT&T, they're not Verizon, but they are T-Mobile and they are gaining subscribers. It's a way to show off on the biggest stage of all. You know that 100 million people are going to be watching for these ads. There's no other place in television or anywhere else in media to reach 100 million people.

PEREIRA: And it's not buzzy or snappy. But we all use data. So, they found a way to get our attention about something that matters.

STELTER: Everybody is going to be on their phones during the commercials. So, for that reason.

PEREIRA: You know, I've heard that sex sells, I'm not the first one to say that.

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STELTER: It's shocking how quickly an ad can find a way to have a sexual component.

PEREIRA: This one is overt. Let's look at the Victoria's Secret ad. What they do best.

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PEREIRA: Too much? KIRSHENBAUM: Well, first of all we have to realize that there are a

lot of men watching this. They're going to love this.

PEREIRA: But men aren't the ones going into the Victoria's Secret stores, generally, are they?

KIRSHENBAUM: Men and women will love this, it plays off the whole idea of the game. It's clever. Victoria's Secret has not advertised in seven years and they're back and it's a really, really smart play for them.

STELTER: And they're coming back for the first time in a long time into this game.

PEREIRA: Why are we seeing more companies come back?

STELTER: There's a little bit of a slowdown in advertising overall, so companies waited a little longer to buy ads. NBC didn't sell out the game until a couple of days ago. So, there's companies that maybe took a rest this year, they hadn't taken in a long time, because there was an opening for an ad.

KIRSHENBAUM: Right. But there's a new line-up. If you would have told me ten years ago that Chevy wouldn't be in the Super Bowl, but that wick's.com or Dove product for men would be, I'd be very surprise. But there's a lineup. There's a new America.

PEREIRA: There's a lot of women watching the game, they're part of the Super Bowl Sunday crowd that's sitting by the TV. Tweeting, et cetera. I think this one, the real men campaign let's take a look at this one. Because it got me. I'll admit it. It got me. It's a good one.

(VIDEO CLIP PLAYS)

PEREIRA: It just tugs at the heartstrings, and we haven't shown them all in their entirety.

KIRSHENBAUM: There's a trend also about celebrating the dad now and I think this really you know focuses on that. And it has indexed very well among women as well. Women really love it.

PEREIRA: OK. Last but not least. I want to get to this one. There's been a lot of -- controversy going on around it with the NFL at the center in terms of domestic violence. And this year, they have done a PSA. Let's take a look at it I'm curious how it came to be.

Let's take a look at it first.

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DISPATCHER: Do you have an emergency or not.

CALLER: Yes.

DISPATCHER: And you're unable to talk because? CALLER: Right, right.

DISPATCHER: Is someone in the room with you? Just say yes or no.

CALLER: Yes.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

CAMEROTA: So, I understand the NFL donated production time to do this. So, obviously they're putting their backs into this. You think it's --

KIRSHENBAUM: My friends at Gray (ph) Advertising did a fantastic job with this, I have to tell you. It's a very big issue. I think it's a powerful one. I think the spot is incredibly powerful and it's a powerful issue that needs to be addressed.

STELTER: It's the kind of thing it might be the only ad, I think it stops people from talking during the game or during the ads. It's the kind of thing people might not get up and get nachos during that commercial. I wonder what kind of conversations it will start in the rooms. Some conversations will get started as a result of that.

PEREIRA: Richard, Brian, we'll be watching, I know the two of you will as well.

Can't wait to hear your reactions. Tell us what commercials you're looking forward to seeing. You can tweet us @newday, or go to our Facebook page, Facebook.com/NewDay.

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell is holding a state of the NFL news conference, it's happening at 1:30 p.m. Eastern, catch it here live on CNN.

Tomorrow go inside football's biggest game with CNN's Rachel Nichols and Hall of Famer Dan Marino, for CNN's kickoff in Arizona, at 4:30 Eastern. You've got a lot of viewing to do.

We're following news today, including breaking news about the 2016 presidential race. Let's get to it.

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CUOMO: Terrorists continue to change their demands and the fate two of hostages is on the line.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have asked for a proof of life.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I am very pessimistic about the fate of the hostages.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They are attempting to elevate themselves into a political movement.

CAMEROTA: When Bowe Bergdahl was swapped for Taliban prisoners, critics of the move warned that the militants would return to the battlefield.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: One of them attempting to communicate with Taliban associates.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're confident that we would be able to mitigate any threat of reengagement by any of these members.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: An outbreak of the measles is sweeping across the United States.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're injecting chemicals into our children.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: For to you go out there and tell people not to vaccinate, that's egregious.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Instead of waiting for an outbreak, let's get ahead of it.

ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY, with Chris Cuomo, Alisyn Camerota and Michaela Pereira.

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ANNOUNCER: This is CNN breaking news.

CAMEROTA: Good morning, again everyone. Welcome back to NEW DAY.

We do have breaking news at this hour. CNN's Dana Bash has just learned that Mitt Romney has officially decided whether to run for president, and whether he will move forward with that run in 2016. We do not know what his decision is. But we understand that he will announce his decision on a phone call with his supporters at 11:00 a.m. Eastern this morning.

CUOMO: Well, here's the thing -- first we know that. A decision of this magnitude should always be made before 9:00 a.m. in the East, so we're going to have to wait a little bit. But we know now is the time he had to decide for various reasons.

Dana Bash is on the phone with some insight into this. Why now, Dana, what do we know?

DANA BASH, CNN CHIEF CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT (via telephone): Good morning.

The reason why now is because he has been very clear I'm told from multiple sources, that he gets that this is a decision that he has to make very soon, because he has done this twice before. And he understands that there are people waiting. There are people who he would need and when it comes to money, when it comes to support, when it comes to staff.

And so, it's something that kind of urgent that he has to -- has to decide. And when we say decide, it's unlikely I'm told to be you know, good morning, ladies and gentlemen, I'm running for president, or not. It's more likely to be the kind of baby step with a sort of a wink and a nod that we've seen from Jeb Bush, that we've seen from Chris Christie, from others.