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Aired April 23, 2015 - 07:30 ET
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STEPHANIE SCHRIOCK, PRESIDENT, EMILY'S LIST: -- the voters are looking for here and the Republicans have clearly made their main strategy in discrediting Hillary Clinton at every turn. You've mentioned the Benghazi committee earlier as well.
It's the same situation. They know they have to make this election about Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton knows that this election is actually about everyday Americans and what we're going to do moving this economy forward.
CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: But you want to lead the characters always a test. I think that the through line here is going to be this. These are just examples of one narrative, which is do you come clean, the Clintons as a machine, when you have someone asking you hard questions?
Benghazi, the e-mail servers, now the stuff about the CGI, is that a fair criticism? That the way they handle these situations may not be as immediate and open as people want.
SCHRIOCK: Well, I would say that, yes, she's been very open with everything. On the e-mails she turned over, you know, tens of thousands of e-mails.
CUOMO: Deleted others though.
SCHRIOCK: And actually publicly said please make them public.
CUOMO: But not all of them, only the 55,000, not everything that was on the server.
SCHRIOCK: I think it was a situation where previous secretaries have had similar situations with private e-mail accounts. So I think she is really rolling this out. I mean, it is just one thing after the other because the strategy for the Republicans is to tear down Hillary Clinton.
What we really would like to see is some sort of proactive future looking argument from the Republicans. But the Republicans don't have anything to offer the American people particularly on advancing the economy. What we look at Emily's list is absolutely critical.
CUOMO: That's why you decided to endorse her? SCHRIOCK: Absolutely. Emily's list was thrilled to endorse the day she got into the race. Emily's is looking at one of our biggest election cycles in the history of the organization, which happens to be 30 years old this year.
CUOMO: Congratulations.
SCHRIOCK: Thank you.
ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: Congratulations. You mentioned Benghazi and I do want to touch on that for a second because the select committee investigating it does want to hear again from Mrs. Clinton. Do you think that the campaign has any plan to allow her to be questioned further?
SCHRIOCK: I think this committee's going to continue as they have to dig, dig and dig. And it has come up with nothing over, over and over again. I just go back -- I hate to go back to the same point, but this is their strategy.
And Hillary Clinton's campaign I think has done a fabulous job in their first, not quite two weeks, of making this election already about everyday American people.
CUOMO: You've got to balance though doing what you're saying, which is clearly the truth, right? The American people want it to be about them and their futures --
SCHRIOCK: Absolutely.
CUOMO: -- that's true for women and men. But you can't make it that way without also investing yourself and your character on the line. That's part of the test for her. You can't duck the test.
SCHRIOCK: Well, if we're going to talk about character and leadership, and this is a woman who has committed her entire career to advancing women and families in this country. She's committed her entire career to really focusing on economic issues from the first job she had at the Children's Defense Fund.
You know, she was a superb secretary of state. She was a great senator of the state of New York and has really incredible record. She's one of the most experienced and qualified people, let's leave out gender even though I'm Emily's List, leave out gender.
She's one of the most qualified people who have ever run for president in the United States and she has roots in the middle class. I mean, that is why Emily's List and our 3 million members are excited about this campaign, not just to elect Hillary Clinton as president. But for us we'd like to break that glass ceiling. It has been far too long and it is time.
CAMEROTA: Stephanie Schriock, thanks so much for being on NEW DAY.
SCHRIOCK: Thank you.
CAMEROTA: Nice to see you.
CUOMO: Good to have you.
All right, so what do kids know about the race? We just heard from Emily's List. How about kids out there? They don't know anything. You are wrong. We talked to the Kiddie Cabinet about what's going on. They reconvened to talk about the election of 2016 and they are on it. Take a look.
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CUOMO: Who's this?
CHILDREN: Hillary Clinton.
CUOMO: Who is this?
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MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: More demonstrations are scheduled for this afternoon in Baltimore following the death of Freddie Gray. Protests intensify Wednesday, some in the crowd throwing bottles towards police. The head of the police union says the protests resemble a lynch mob. Five officers in the case have now given their side to investigators although one has remained silent.
CAMEROTA: The sky over Sana'a in Yemen lighting up with a new round of Saudi-led air strikes and now once-defiant Houthi rebels reportedly calling for peace talks. This as the world is asked to step in for help with the Yemenis looking for safety. The U.N. says the conflict has displaced an estimated 150,000 people.
CUOMO: The Middle East, North Africa, we often see these as issues of politics, but they are really about people, thousands of refugees risking it all for a better chance. Such desperation the EU called an emergency summit about it.
We have CNN senior international correspondent, Nick Paton Walsh, at a migrant detention center in Libya, a nation that has become a launch point for many migrants -- Nick.
NICK PATON WALSH, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: We hear what's happening on the shores of Europe, but behind me is a fraction of what's happening here in war-torn Libya. Now, there are 350 people here. About a third of them from where oppression causes so many to flee.
But harrowing stories from many women here who are in fact pregnant. One official here saying they actually tried to make the journey while pregnant, perhaps hoping it may improve the rights of their children if they finally get through to Europe.
If you ask the men in this detention facility whether or not they're trying to get to Europe, they all deny it. Perhaps feeling that will cause their fate to be further complicated.
But the officials running this facility say they're all pretty much without exception trying to get to Europe to some degree. This is an extraordinary small window on the number of people fleeing turmoil and poverty in Africa.
[07:40:00] But the key issue here so many unclear of their fate and the officials saying there simply isn't really a system here in Libya, verging on a failed state to some degree, to be able to even begin to think about repatriating them. Back to you.
PEREIRA: Essentially a crisis situation there, thanks for that, Nick.
Real interesting story here, a 14-year-old girl is back home in Mexico after she was sent to a woman in the United States, who claimed that that young girl was her daughter. She was forcibly, as you can see here, screaming.
She was forcibly removed from her middle school, sent to a Mexican National living in Houston. However the Mexican consulate demand that DNA testing was done and it was proven that she was not the woman's child.
Although right now it remains unclear why she was taken before her identity was confirmed. For her part the woman in Texas says her daughter was taken to Mexico years ago in a custody dispute.
CAMEROTA: How can that happen?
PEREIRA: I have no idea. What a terrifying thing. The little girl says she was terrified at first. She soon calmed down when she realized and hoped things would turn out. Again, DNA testing proved and she's being sent home.
CUOMO: I think it happens more than we think.
CAMEROTA: Don't they do DNA testing before they extract a child from their country.
PEREIRA: Way out of order.
CUOMO: Doesn't seem like they always do it the right way.
CAMEROTA: I guess not.
All right, it's time for CNN Money now. Business correspondent, Alison Kosik is in our money center. Hi, Alison. What's up with Google?
ALISON KOSIK, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Good morning to you. Google actually throwing its hat into the ring offering wireless service for your cell phone, the internet giant's new service will cost $20 a month for talk and text plus $10 per gigabyte of data. That's $15 to $20 cheaper than similar plans from AT&T and
Verizon, but here's the catch to this, it's invitation only and available on one Google phone at the moment.
Big CEOs taking one for the team, we've learned that Elon Musk made only $35,000 last year at Tesla Motors. But shed no tears, Musk is already a billionaire.
And American airlines CEO, Doug Parker will no longer get a salary instead, he's going to be paid only in stock. Again, no more tears because, Chris, he made more than $12 million last year.
CUOMO: OK, because I was getting a little teary there. Thank you very much, Alison.
All right, coming up, we've got the Kiddie Cabinet for you. Third and fourth graders, they don't know presidential politics, right? Think again.
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CUOMO: Who's this?
CHILDREN: Hillary Clinton.
CUOMO: Who is this?
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CUOMO: Polls, pundits, politicians, they all make picking a president such a mess. Not for the Kiddie Cabinet. Once again, we put the toughest election decisions to the youngest among us and they came up with answers that should be the envy of all. Take a look.
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CUOMO: Who knows that we have a presidential election upcoming? Everybody knows. Who thinks it's important? Everybody thinks it's important. Why do you think we're hearing about it so much so soon, Mariah?
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: Because Hillary Clinton is running.
CUOMO: Hillary Clinton, who is that? Who is Hillary Clinton, Iliana?
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: President Clinton's wife.
CUOMO: Is that all? Is that all Hillary Clinton is, is President Clinton's wife, Mariah? What kind of young women, stand up, what else has she done other than marry some man?
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: She's a Democratic candidate for president. CUOMO: Yes, she is. Daniel, do you think Hillary Clinton should be president of the United States?
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: Yes.
CUOMO: Why? Mariah, why?
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: Because Hillary Clinton will be the first woman president.
CUOMO: Look at all the young ladies nodding their heads. You know already that it's a done deal? We got over a year to go. Can't a lot of things happen between now and then to change your mind?
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: Yes, they can. Things can happen. People can like different people running for president can say different like ideas they have to make the country a better place and change people's minds.
CUOMO: Let's talk about some of them. Who is this, Daniel? His name rhymes with Marco Rubio. That is his name. Cuban-American, would be first Latino president and they say that he, right now it's still early, sizes up best against Hillary Clinton. Now what do you think of him? I'm going to beat your Hillary. I'm going to beat your Hillary. Does he look like a president?
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: It doesn't really matter how people look.
CUOMO: It matters. Daniel, what kind of person does the president have to be?
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: A good and fair person.
CUOMO: Good and fair. What else, Mariah?
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: They have to stand up for what they want and what the country wants.
CUOMO: Stand strong. Who's this? Me in ten years, no, who is it? Rand Paul, he is a senator. What do you think when you look at his face?
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: His hair.
CUOMO: He's got good hair. Not as good as you though, Sebastian, let's not get crazy here. You got a nice head of hair. I'm not going to joke. So he's got curly hair. Is that presidential?
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: No.
CUOMO: See that said it doesn't matter how you look. Guy got kicked out of office just because of his hair. So far the election has been about this. Hillary Clinton is saying, I'm going to go around the country and listen to what people want.
I'm not going to tell you what I'm going to do yet really. So can we make up our mind whether or not we want Hillary Clinton to be president if we don't know what she's going to do yet? Who says no? Who says yes, I don't care what she's going to do I believe it will be great? No hands.
Good. On the Republican side we've got like five, six people who are probably going to be in there. They are spending a lot of time saying why Hillary Clinton should not be president. Is that a good way to become president by telling you why someone else should be president?
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: No.
CUOMO: Michael and I are running for president. He stinks, vote for me. What's wrong with that?
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: What is wrong is that is that you are not helping.
CUOMO: Michael is not a nice person. Vote for me. How about that?
[07:50:09] UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: I wouldn't say it's nice. It's just like bragging about yourself and not letting the other person speak.
CUOMO: Michael has spoken. He is not smart enough. Vote for me. Is that good enough? So going after somebody else and saying they are bad is not enough to be president and it works, right?
Who would want to be president? Someday when you grow up, not today, not tomorrow? Nobody wants to be president of the United States? What do you want to be when you grow up, football player, astronaut?
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: Football or basketball or if sports doesn't work out, then it's probably going to be, like, a governor --
CUOMO: Something less, something easy on the side. Anybody can be governor, these days. Who thinks that during this campaign, you will hear somebody saying they can fix everything as well in the country? You don't hear anybody campaigning to be president telling you what they can't do, right?
UNIDENTIFIED CHILD: Well, I think I can't do all the things people want, but I could try doing as much as I could.
CUOMO: That is a great answer. Who agrees with me about how good that answer is?
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CUOMO: Wouldn't that be refreshing to hear? I can't do everything you want, but I will try my best. Wouldn't that be refreshing?
PEREIRA: I think you send the video to your brother. If football or basketball doesn't work out, I want to be governor.
CUOMO: I didn't like the aspersions on the curly hair. They were looking at my hair, and that's why I got a haircut. I don't want to run, just want respect.
PEREIRA: All right, guys, admit it. We all get a little annoyed when devices act up, and one Colorado man took it to the extreme with his computer. CNN's Jeanne Moos picks it up from there.
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JEANNE MOOS, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Ever get so mad at your computer, you wish you could clobber it? A Colorado Springs man took it a step further.
UNIDENTIFIED CALLER: Guys, I heard gunshots right over here. I wouldn't go that way.
MOOS: And ended up being the subject of 911 calls.
UNIDENTIFIED DISPATCHER: What type of weapons is involved?
UNIDENTIFIED CALLER: A gun.
MOOS: A .9 millimeter pistol. As police put it, man executes his computer in alley in behind his home.
UNIDENTIFIED CALLER: Six or seven shots coming from an alleyway.
MOOS: The 37-year-old Lucas Hinch shot his Dell computer because he was fed up with fighting it the last several months. He said he did not expect to attract the police.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I thought that my actions weren't even going to be questioned by anybody.
MOOS: Hinch told the Los Angeles Times, he has no regrets. It was glorious, angels sung on high even if he did get a summons for discharging a firearm.
(on camera): As for the victims final moments, the Dell kept giving Hinch what he called the blue screen of death before he finally put it out of its misery.
(voice-over): The killer did take some criticism, mostly for his lousy shooting. His shots are all over the place. You can tell he was in emotional distress. We have not seen a premeditated murder like this since the dad's rage protesting on Facebook.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This right here is my .45. That was the first round.
MOOS (on camera): The murder of the Dell XPS 410 led to other shocking confessions on the Colorado Springs Police Facebook page.
(voice-over): I have killed several printers with my bare hands. The shooting of the Dell was a crime of passion even the police answering the call could comprehend. After all, look what happened to them -- Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.
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CAMEROTA: I've been there, I can relate.
PEREIRA: He could upgrade, just saying, instead of violence.
CUOMO: I think it's a window into a little bit of a larger problem some people may have.
CAMEROTA: Anger management?
CUOMO: A little bit.
PEREIRA: Me and the sewing machine, I can tell you.
CAMEROTA: All right, meanwhile, we'll get back to our top story, will we be getting answers of what happened in Baltimore during the arrest of Freddie Gray. These officers have given their statements to investigators. Will we find out what's in them?
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Baltimore has had a history of having police brutality.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: In this type of incident you do not need probable cause to arrest, just reasonable suspicion.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The family has no confidence that the police can actually investigate the police.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Iranian warships heading towards American Navy destroyers.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We've sent ships to that part of the world to prevent a war between Saudi Arabia and Iran.
CUOMO: The Senate is finally set to vote on Loretta Lynch's nomination for attorney general.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She has waited longer for her confirmation vote than any attorney nominee since the Reagan administration.
CAMEROTA: One out of every eight couples suffers in the U.S. from infertility.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: An embryo is the potential for life and as such, it should be treated with dignity and respect.
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CUOMO: Welcome to your NEW DAY. It is Thursday, April 23rd, 8:00 in the east. Protests in Baltimore continue because answers are not coming. What happened to Freddie Gray? A young man was injured after being taken into police custody. People are not calming down. More protests are planned for today. It seems only clarity will create consensus.
CAMEROTA: Five of the officers involved in Gray's arrest have given statements to investigators, we are told. So is the public any closer to getting any answers. Let's begin our team coverage with CNN's Suzanne Malveaux in Baltimore -- Suzanne.
SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Alisyn. We have seen these protests grow in intensity. We also expect they are going to grow in size. We are expecting thousands of people to arrive here --
