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USA Wins Women's World Cup Final; Illegal Immigrant Confesses to Killing Women in San Francisco; U.S.-Iran Nuclear Talks Reaching Deadline; Interview with John Kirby. Aired 8-8:30a ET

Aired July 06, 2015 - 08:00   ET

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MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: Captain Carli Lloyd going where no woman has gone before, scoring the first ever hat trick in a World Cup final.

[08:00:02] All three goals coming in the thrilling first 16 minutes of the match. CNN's Coy Wire is live in Vancouver with the highlights on this historic win. Nary an hour of sleep, pumped beyond all time. What a great time in Vancouver last night.

COY WIRE, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: No doubt about it, to say the least, Michaela. We witnessed history in the making and we witnessed her story in the making. Carli Lloyd and Team USA broke records Sunday night, defeating Japan 5-2, doing what no other country has done, win a third women's World Cup title.

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WIRE: It was a game that felt like it was over almost soon it was begun.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Three goals in 15 minutes it was ridiculous.

WIRE: Watch parties across the globe witnessed a momentous night in Women's World Cup history. Team captain Carli Lloyd exploded in the first half scoring two goals within the first 6:00 of the game, paving the way for total domination over Japan.

And 13 minutes in Lauren Holiday drove home the third goal of the night, shattering Japan's defense for a 3-0 lead. Keeping up the pressure, Lloyd returned with a stunning maneuver, shooting a long shot from mid field blasting it past the goalie from over 50 yards away. Her third and unprecedented goal the first hat trick ever in a women's final.

Breaking the U.S. streak Japan managed to score by the end of the first half. And then celebrating goal number two when team USA planted the ball in their own net in the second half. Tobin Heath popped in a quick one for the fifth and final goal, clenching a record-breaking third title for the United States and a crushing defeat for Japan. USA holding the trophy for the first time in 16 years with the golden glove going to Hope Solo performing 540 shut out minutes, and Carli Lloyd honored with the golden ball as the overall best player at the World Cup. CARLI LLOYD, USA WOMEN'S TEAM CAPTAIN: Being able to score that many

goals in the first 15 minutes really got us going. This was an unbelievable moment. I'm really, really proud of the team.

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WIRE: And what a team they are. The passion was palpable. The goose bumps got me and the Team USA craze is absolutely contagious. But I can tell you it was more than about just this team. This was a truly a shining moment for all of women's sports in America in front of record-breaking audiences. Michaela?

PEREIRA: Record breaking audiences felt like a hometown crowd there in Vancouver, Canada. Pretty incredible, Coy. I'm glad you got to witness that.

In our last hour we actually spoke with team USA's unstoppable scoring machine Carli Lloyd. She told us what is behind her incredible drive.

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LLOYD: I just put my head down. I've gone to work, I worked hard. I do all the right things on and off the field. And I just want to be a good role model to all the young kids and boys out there as well, just to teach them the importance of doing all the right things in order to accomplish your dreams.

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ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: Wow, that's great. What a role model she is. We'll be talking more about that later.

But now we turn to the outrageous crime story that is sparking a national debate. A Mexican national deported from the U.S. five times confessing to shooting and killing a 32-year-old woman on a busy San Francisco pier, the murder reigniting the debate about illegal immigration. Why was a repeat felon released from jail and out on the streets? CNN's Dan Simon is in San Francisco for us with the very latest. What do we know, Dan?

DAN SIMON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Alisyn, good morning. This is really going to fire up critics of America's immigration system. Here you have the guy, a repeat felon, who was deported an astounding five times to his native Mexico, yet somehow he's able to freely roam San Francisco streets, find a gun, and shoot and kill a woman.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you shoot Kate Steinle, the lady who was down on Pier 14?

FRANCISCO SANCHEZ: Yes.

SIMON: Confessing to homicide, 45-year-old Francisco Sanchez is behind bars in California this morning, but he shouldn't be in the United States at all. Sanchez is an undocumented immigrant and repeat felon. The victim is 31-year-old Kate Steinle, killed with a single gunshot to the chest at a popular San Francisco pier last Wednesday.

JIM STEINLE, FATHER OF VICTIM: You could feel she was fighting and gasping for every breath.

SIMON: Kate's father, who was with her at the time, says no words were exchanged between Sanchez and his daughter. Officials say this was a random act of violence.

STEINLE: I have a little solace that I was with her. But I also have the overwhelming grief the moment she was shot.

SIMON: Sanchez has been deported five times to Mexico. In a jailhouse interview with CNN affiliate KGO, he said the lure of a paycheck kept him returning.

SANCHEZ: I'm looking for the jobs in the restaurant or roofing, landscaping or construction.

[08:05:00] SIMON: The shooting quickly seized by Donald Trump, the GOP presidential hopeful who made headlines for his inflammatory remarks about Mexican immigrants said the tragic shooting is, quote, "yet another example of why we must secure our border immediately."

Sanchez was held on an outstanding drug charge back in March, but that charge was dropped, and San Francisco officials said they no legal basis to hold him. Under the so called sanctuary law, they didn't transfer him back to immigration officials either because there was no warrant for his removal, so on April 15th, Sanchez was released.

SANCHEZ: I'm sorry for everybody.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Including Kate Steinle's family?

SANCHEZ: Yes.

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SIMON: Now listen to this. Prior to wandering to that popular tourist area, Sanchez says he popped some sleeping pills that he found in a dumpster. Then he said he found the gun wrapped in a t-shirt next to a bench. He says when he picked it up it went off. But originally he reportedly told police he was aiming for sea lions. John?

JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: Such a tragedy. Dan Simon for us in San Francisco, thanks so much.

New this morning, Chicago reeling from a deadly holiday weekend. In just three days seven people were killed, including a seven-year-old boy. Dozens of people were injured in the latest cycle of violence, and this has the city's top officer just simply enraged. CNN's Ryan Young is live in Chicago with the very latest. Good morning, Ryan.

RYAN YOUNG, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, John. You know, that top officer is very upset. I can tell you people in the community are equally upset about this -- 47 people shot over the weekend, like you said, seven of them dead. But a lot of people talking about Amir Brown, the seven-year-old who was standing on a sidewalk getting ready for fireworks like so many kids across this country when he was shot in the chest. Amir Brown died.

There's a conversation just about what is going on in this community. I can tell you there's been increased officer patrols throughout the week, and in fact they're working 12-hour shifts. But there was one scene we all remember from yesterday when the superintendent laid out the guns that they had confiscated over the weekend, so many, in fact, every hour since Friday they've been able to get an illegal gun off the street. It's a conversation so many people are having in Chicago about how to stop the violence. The superintendent talked strongly about it just yesterday afternoon.

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SUPERINTENDENT GARRY MCCARTHY, CHICAGO POLICE DEPARTMENT: If we don't hold criminals accountable, if people do not go to jail for illegal guns, if they do not fear the criminal justice system, if they feel repercussions from the gang they belong to for losing the gun outweighs the criminal justice sanctions that they would be subject to, we're going to stay in the position that we're in.

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YOUNG: And the superintendent even went as for a far to say maybe the system here is broken and somebody needs to step forward and make the system a lot stronger on people, especially when they have illegal weapons. And 67 people were killed last year, so you can see the numbers, actually 67 people were shot last year. You can see the numbers have gone down. I can tell you there has been a big conversation about the violence. In fact, the June 1st headline here was 161 people killed and 151 days. So a lot of conversation still going on, Michaela.

PEREIRA: The numbers are going down. They're still really unacceptable and very concerning. Ryan, thanks for that.

Escaped inmate David Sweat is back in prison this morning. So what is next for the convicted murder now that he's back behind bars for the first time in a month? Boris Sanchez is live in studio with us for the latest.

BORIS SANCHEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Michaela. After 22 days on the run David Sweat shot and captured last Sunday. Yesterday at 3:00 and he was transferred from a hospital in Albany to the Five Points Correctional Facility in Romulus, New York, that prison about 250 miles away from the Clinton Correctional Facility where he escaped. It's also a much newer prison. It was built in 2000 compared to Clinton Correctional which was built 170 years ago. Five Points is a maximum security facility. It houses almost 1,300 inmates with a staff of about 511 security and personnel.

As soon as David Sweat passes a 24-hour suicide watch, he's going to be moved into a special housing unit inside that prison where he will be kept in his cell by himself. Inside that cell all he will have is a bed, a sink, a toilet, a table to write on, as well as a facility- controlled shower. Officials tell us he will be confined to the cell for 23 hours a day making any chance of an attempted escape far slimmer. Alisyn?

CAMEROTA: All right, Boris, thanks so much for the update on that.

Meanwhile, nuclear negotiations with Iran coming down to the wire again. The latest deadline now just one day away, and they're wondering, will there will be a deal? CNN's Sunlen Serfaty is live at the White House with the latest. What's the White House saying?

SUNLEN SERFATY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Alisyn, both sides, the U.S. and the Iranians, are saying that they have never been closer to a deal, but there is still not a deal yet, and many of the major sticking points are still unresolved one day before this deadline.

[08:10:04] Over the weekend there was flurry of meetings, what officials described as tense. There were some preliminary agreements on some issues, but the secretary of state, John Kerry, really taking pains to go out of his way to emphasize and bring down that level of optimism, downplaying expectations.

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JOHN KERRY, SECRETARY OF STATE: If hard choices get made in the next couple of days, and made quickly, we could get an agreement this week. But if they are not made, we will not.

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SERFATY: And several of the most difficult issues -- the issues that have constantly bedeviled these negotiators throughout this whole process, they are still left unresolved, like the level of inspections at Iran's nuclear military sites, the questions also about Iran's past nuclear activities, and the big one, the big sticking point over the level of sanctions and how quickly those might be removed on Iran.

Now, Republicans are skeptical about the contours of this deal, the Senate foreign relations chairman warning the administration, cautioning not to rush into a bad deal because this is such a big legacy issue for the president. Now this morning both sides really do seem to be laying the groundwork, though, John, for a potential delay. even though they say tomorrow is still the goal.

BERMAN: Sunlen Serfaty for us at the White House, thanks so much, Sunlen.

So will the secretary come home with an agreement? And will that keep the Iranians in line? We're joined this morning by John Kirby, a spokesman for the State Department. Thanks so much for being with us, sir.

JOHN KIRBY, SPOKESMAN, STATE DEPARTMENT: Great to be with you. Thank you so much.

BERMAN: We're hoping you have news for us. We're sitting her at 8:11 here on July 6th. There is a deadline tomorrow, July 7th. Where do things stand right now at this minute?

KIRBY: It's important to remember that the July 7th deadline was really a technical extension, an extension of the agreements under the joint plan of action that all the parties signed. So it's a technical extension and only that.

BERMAN: OK. Wait a second. Are you preparing me for the possibility it might go beyond July 7th right now? Are you saying it may not be done by tomorrow?

KIRBY: We just don't know. I think Secretary Kerry was very clear yesterday that they're going to keep working very, very hard here, certainly this week. And if hard choices get made, if they can meet agreement on some of these key issues, we could have an agreement this week. But there's no guarantee of that.

BERMAN: All right, so any details about where the talks stand right now? They're still behind closed doors.

KIRBY: The negotiators are still working hard at it. All the ministers met today, in fact, just recently. There's still, again, a lot of work to be done on both the political level and the technical level, too.

BERMAN: All right, I spoke to Aaron David Miller a short time ago. He was working like six different state departments over the years. And we heard from a number of other officials too. And just by watching what is going on there, no one's hair is on fire there. No one is running around yelling and screaming, saying this is all going to fall apart. No foreign minister has walked out of the negotiations in a huff. Isn't it reasonable to infer then by that that this thing is about to be -- there is about to be a deal there?

KIRBY: I think you need to be careful, John. There has been progress made, but there are still very difficult decisions that haven't been reached yet. So I think one of the reasons why you're not seeing people with hair on fire is because they've been working at this for two or three years now. This is the culmination of an awful lot of work.

And so there are still disagreements to be hashed out. But in general, I mean, these are ministers that have known each other, worked with each other now on the particular issue for some time. And they're just working through their way through it.

BERMAN: So disagreements about what? As we sit here this morning, how about anywhere, anytime inspections? Are inspectors going to be able to go in Iran whenever they want wherever they want?

KIRBY: I don't want to do any negotiating here in public on national TV, so I want to be careful about that. But I can tell you, in terms of access, in April all the parties including Iran agreed to having a set of parameters that would allow the IAEA to inspect as they needed to inspect, wherever they wanted go whenever they needed to do to inspect to make sure that the concerns were adequately addressed over Iran's past or potential military dimensions of the program. BERMAN: You brought up the past as well. There's another element of

this, another roadblock appears to be Iran's willingness to discuss or own up to whatever past military plans they had to do with nuclear weapons. Any progress there?

KIRBY: Well, again, these are all part of the things they're discussing now. And I would be reticent to get into that.

BERMAN: You're not going to talk to me about that now. I appreciate that.

So Secretary Kerry makes clear that he's willing to walk away from a deal. He's still willing to walk away. He won't accept what he calls a bad deal.

So where are we then next week if he does walk away? What's the state of U.S. relations with Iran? What is the state of Iran's relations with the rest of the world if this thing falls apart this week and, as the secretary has threatened, he walks away?

KIRBY: Well, as you said, the secretary has been made clear that we're not going to sign up to a bad deal, and if we don't get an agreement this week, he will walk away.

[08:15:08] He's willing to do that, because what we're after here is an Iran that is not able to pursue and possess a nuclear weapons capability. Now, a relationship with Iran is complicated across a whole spade of other issues. So, beyond the nuclear deal, there are still issues we have with the regime in Tehran, with their support of terrorism around the region and other activities that they're involved in, human rights.

So, there's a relationship here that is not going to be solved immediately with a deal. But the deal is a very, very important thing that we'd like to pursue.

BERMAN: Along those lines, do you feel like the United States is any closer today than it was yesterday or a week ago to stopping Iran's support for Hezbollah or any groups that the United States considers terrorist related? Is the United States any closer than it was yesterday or a week ago to getting the Americans held by Iran released?

KIRBY: Our focus is right now in the room now getting -- trying to get to an agreement on a nuclear deal and not specifically in these negotiations dealing with all those other issues. I will say on the sidelines of the discussions, as we always do, we bring up the case of those Americans that are being detained in Iran every time we get a chance.

But other issues with Iran like I said state sponsorship of terrorism, we know that's not going to get solved here in Vienna with this deal. It's something we still have to address and we'll continue to address with Iran.

BERMAN: Do you think a nuclear deal would make that easier -- would make it easier to get these U.S. people who are being held over there, these Americans held, released? Do you think it would be easier to get Iran to stop supporting terrorists around the world?

KIRBY: It's really hard to say. I mean, Secretary Kerry has said if we get a deal, you know, certainly there's a potential there for that to lead to openings with Iran on other issues. But that is way down the line right now. Again, the focus is on getting the deal.

BERMAN: John Kirby, always a pleasure to talk to you. Thanks so much for being with us on the NEW DAY.

KIRBY: Thanks, John. Good to be with you. Thank you.

BERMAN: Michaela?

PEREIRA: All right. John, it is a real mess this morning in Greece. The country's finance minister quit overnight after voters rejected Europe's bailout offer. The deal would have temporarily fixed the debt crisis but called for other austerity measures mandated by creditors.

Now, world markets are rattled. There's no clear answer for what's next. Greece could be forced to abandon the euro and move to a new currency.

CAMEROTA: South Carolina's lawmakers debating removal of the Confederate flag from capitol grounds. The flag is at the center of controversy, following the church massacre in Charleston. A two- thirds majority necessary in both legislative chambers to remove the flag. It could be an uphill battle, with many still strongly supportive of the flag.

BERMAN: Now, get a hold of this. A single-engine plane crashed on a California beach. The whole episode obviously caught on video.

It happened in Carlsbad over this holiday weekend. The plane flipped and partially submerged. Look at that.

You see that, and the next thing it will shock you. The pilot is OK.

PEREIRA: That's remarkable.

BERMAN: The pilot is OK. A 12-year-old boy on the ground was sent to the hospital with minor injuries. Officials say the plane went down when the engine lost power.

CAMEROTA: That's clarifying.

PEREIRA: What's so odd it doesn't seem like people ran out of the way.

BERMAN: They probably didn't know what was going on.

PEREIRA: I suppose it happens so fast, it feels surreal.

CAMEROTA: You're watching for awhile thinking -- PEREIRA: What is it going to happen? Yes.

CAMEROTA: -- is this really what it looks like? Right.

PEREIRA: I know, incredible.

CAMEROTA: That's scary.

All right. Back to San Francisco now because outrage after an illegal immigrant murdered a woman in cold blood. Does the crime prove Donald Trump's point about immigrants? Our political panel tackles that, next.

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[08:22:21] CAMEROTA: The murder of a young woman in San Francisco by an undocumented immigrant with a history of crime and five deportations reigniting that debate about illegal immigration. The political fallout just beginning, including from Donald Trump who's made this issue a center piece of his presidential campaign.

Here to talk about this is our CNN political commentator and Republican strategist, Kevin Madden, and CNN political commentator and Democratic strategists Paul Begala. Paul is also the senior advisor for a super PAC supporting Hillary Clinton.

Gentlemen, great to have you here.

KEVIN MADDEN, REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST: Good morning. Great to be with you.

PAUL BEGALA, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: Good morning.

CAMEROTA: Paul, let me start with you.

The terrible tragedy in San Francisco, doesn't it give Donald Trump some cred to say, exhibit A, this is exactly what I was talking about?

BEGALA: Well, I'm sure he will seize it even if it doesn't give it to him. Mr. Trump is not shy about sharing his views. Good manners in any human decency requires that I offer my sympathies to the Steinle family. It's a horrendous murder, just absolutely vicious and outrageous. And we ought to get to the bottom of it.

We ought to find out what broke down in the immigration system. We ought to find out how this guy got his hands on a gun. We ought to find it out.

But we know the facts of the policy are there administration has put more armed personnel on the U.S.-Mexico border than any presidents since Woodrow Wilson was chasing Pancho Villa around 100 years ago.

CAMEROTA: But, Paul, hold on a second, because that's not what critics of the president's immigration policy object to. What they object to is that ICE wanted a hold put on this guy. They requested a hold on him when he was taken into custody of sheriff's deputies prior to this murder and they let him go because San Francisco is a city that can be lenient with undocumented workers. And so, they didn't want to hold him. That's a problem.

BEGALA: That's a valid point. I'm a liberal. I believe in the central government, a strong central government. We should have strong cities and states. But a city should not be able to set its own immigration policy. I think that's a uniquely federal role.

And the problem is the national system is broken now. I sympathize with people in San Francisco who want to take action or people in my home state of Texas that want to take action. But we need a comprehensive solution.

And the president has been pushing for it. And, frankly, it's the congressional Republicans that blocked it. Some of them, like Marco Rubio, even helped to write a comprehensive reform before they came out against a comprehensive reform.

We do have to have a national solution. It has to be comprehensive. Until we get that, we're going to have problems like this.

BERMAN: Kevin, I know the immigration discussion and debate is one that Republicans -- members of both parties -- have strong feelings on it. It came up a lot four years ago in the presidential election.

[08:25:03] Is Donald Trump injecting himself into the debate, though, is it moving that debate somewhere that has Republicans in this campaign uncomfortable?

MADDEN: Well, it does shift the debate away from a comprehensive approach, the one that Paul is talking about, and in a Republican primary what it does is put an emphasis on just enforcement.

Now, enforcement is crucial. Paul just eliminated the fact that sanctuary cities that's bad public policies that even Democrats and Republicans can agree on. But what happens is when it shifts to who's to blame and when it shifts only to enforcement, you tend to lose half the debate for those Latino Americans, those Hispanic-Americans who want to know about what you're going to do to promote and welcome legal immigration.

And legal immigration is an important part of modernizing the overall system, because I think Republicans and Democrats agree. The current system is broken. That's, I think where the political debate -- Republicans have missed out on the second part and as a result have been a difficult place with Hispanic voters.

BERMAN: He's not making it easier.

Kevin, let me ask you the impossible here, I'm going to ask you an existential question about Donald Trump, namely, why is he doing all this? Because there's been speculation from the beginning every four years, there's speculation he does this just to build his brand.

Well, over the weekend he correctly noted this isn't necessarily helping his brand. Listen to what he's saying. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE (via telephone): This isn't good for my brand. I think it's bad for my brand. I don't care I lose customers. I lose people.

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BERMAN: So, if he's not doing this to make deals, you know, and make money on this, why is he saying all this? Are you beginning to think he actually wants to be president?

MADDEN: Well, no, look. There's an old saying there's no such thing as a bad publicity. I think Donald Trump adheres to that rule.

He doesn't care about being the discipline of a candidate or, you know, focusing on building an infrastructure in the early primary states. Donald Trump, I think what he's trying to do is drive a conversation that is focused on Donald Trump.

I think the issues of that are important to Republican voters. I think he uses it as a vehicle to promote his own personal viewpoints and promote his personality and all the different products that come with a Donald Trump candidacy, but, you know, it's going to remain to be seen on whether or not Republican primary voters catch on to that or not.

CAMEROTA: Paul, I want to switch topics quickly.

BEGALA: I do want to say, I'm sorry to do this, Alison, but I do want to say, Republicans and Democrats ought to join and not allow Mr. Trump to get away with using this murder to smear an entire ethnicity. You know, nobody used the South Carolina shooting to smear white people and we ought not use this outrageous random murder in San Francisco and let Mr. Trump to use that to denigrate every immigrant in this country.

CAMEROTA: OK, let's talk about gay marriage, because former Governor of Arkansas Mike Huckabee was out on the Sunday shows this weekend talking about it. He's not alone. There are Republican candidates who do not really accept what the Supreme Court decided in terms of gay marriage and what they fear is the Supreme Court has singlehandedly redefined marriage.

Here is Mike Huckabee.

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MIKE HUCKABEE (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: One of the mistakes we've heard over the course of the same-sex marriage debate is that marriage is all about just love and feeling and sentimentality. Redefinition of love is to something that is purely sentimental and emotional has been destructive, and I think it will prove to be destructive in every definition of marriage, be it heterosexual or homosexual or polygamy, or whenever the marriage redefinition ends up taking us over the course of the next few years (END VIDEO CLIP)

CAMEROTA: Paul, what do you think of those comments, bringing in polygamy and saying that marriage is really not supposed to be about love?

BEGALA: I don't know. I don't know if the microphone can pick up this sigh. Governor, come on --

BERMAN: I heard it.

BEGALA: OK, good. In the interview, he also though said, marriage should be about a commitment, lifelong. This is exactly what the gay community wants and now has, is the kind of permanent very middle class commitment that straight people have been able to have for centuries.

I think it's a terrible idea politically for Mike Huckabee to be out there talking about it. As a Democrat, I love it, OK? We need Mike's opinions about everybody else's marriage more. But the truth is, just as a citizens he ought not be trying to pretend that somehow two gay people have a different -- should have a different class of status than straight people.

CAMEROTA: Kevin, what do you think of the comments? Quickly.

MADDEN: Look, I think Mike Huckabee does speak to principles that he holds very deeply. I think the politics of it, if you look at the polls, it doesn't make sense for Mike Huckabee to profess his beliefs on this, but you have to remember that folks that are opponents of same-sex marriage oftentimes, it's a deeply held religious belief, and they make that case on principle, sometimes to the detriment of the politics of it. And there may be disagreements on it. Paul and I, other Americans have many disagreements on this.