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Aired September 01, 2015 - 08:30 ET
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[08:30:00] SHERIFF RON HICKMAN, HARRIS COUNTY, TEXAS: And we start talking about, you know, you know, pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon, you know, killing cops, taking pictures of dead people, you know, that's a rhetoric that has to be separated and held accountable. Is that the message that the Black Lives Matter -
MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: And black Lives Matter has come out and spoken out against those comments. They believe that those were from a splinter group that had nothing to do with them.
Sheriff Ron Hickman, there's a time for these other conversations.
HICKMAN: No, that -
PEREIRA: Obviously right now we know that your department is in mourning. The wife of this deputy is in mourning. We appreciate you updating us on what you know on the investigation and we'll stay in touch with you, OK?
HICKMAN: Thank you.
PEREIRA: Thank you, sir.
John.
JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: All right, Michaela.
Another batch of Hillary Clinton's e-mails released overnight. Thousands of pages coming to light. But do voters care what's inside of them? We'll discuss.
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PEREIRA: All right, here we go with the five things for today.
Number one, a new poll revealing that neurosurgeon Ben Carson is tied with Donald Trump now in Iowa, both at 23 percent among Republicans, part of an ongoing trend of political newcomers surging in the polls.
[08:35:10] Meanwhile, a new batch of Hillary Clinton e-mails released by the State Department. More than 7,000 pages from her tenure as secretary of state. Some 125 were retroactively classified and redacted.
The suspect who allegedly shot and killed Texas Deputy Darren Goforth was found mentally incompetent to stand trial on a felony assault charge back in 2012. In fact, he spent six months in a mental hospital.
The funeral for slain cameraman Adam Ward is today. On Monday, family and friends and 1,000 other mourners gathered at his former high school to say good-bye. Ward and reporter Alison Parker were killed last week by a foreman coworker.
A federal judge could rule on Deflategate today. On Monday, John - Tom - John Brady, interesting - Tom Brady and NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell appeared in court but were unable to settle their dispute over the quarterback's four-game suspension.
For more on the five things, be sure to visit newdaycnn.com.
Sorry, Mr. Berman, I didn't mean to inject your name into the Deflategate.
ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: (INAUDIBLE) feel about it.
BERMAN: There's only one Brady.
Donald Trump, Ben Carson, all tied up in a new Iowa poll. And in just the last few minutes, a new internet battle between Trump and Jeb Bush. Man oh man did things just heat up. Stay with us.
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[08:40:24] BERMAN: Growing support among Iowa Republicans for neurosurgeon Ben Carson. He is now tied with Donald Trump, each at 23 percent, according to a new Monmouth poll.
But the big news this morning just moments ago, a brand new salvo in the internet battle between Donald Trump and Jeb Bush. This is getting real, folks. Here to discuss, CNN political commentator, former political director for Ronald Reagan, Jeffrey Lord, Republican strategist Alex Castellanos, also chairman of Purple Strategies.
Let me bring you up to speed, gentlemen. Yesterday, Donald Trump on his Instagram posted something about Jeb Bush and the issue of immigration. Let's watch that quickly.
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ON SCREEN TEXT: Jeb Bush's thoughts on illegal immigration.
Francisco Sanchez, charged with murder
JEB BUSH (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Yes, they broke the law, but it's not a felony.
ON SCREEN TEXT: Santana Gaona, convicted murder.
Brian Omar Hyde, charged with murdering three people.
BUSH: It's kind of - it's - it's a - it's a - it's an act of love. ON SCREEN TEXT: Love?
Forget love, it's time to get tough!
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BERMAN: All right, that was Donald Trump on Jeb Bush. How would Jeb Bush respond? Well, now we have the answer because just minutes ago, Jeb Bush putting out this YouTube video and he's tweeting out the link, which all in all calls Donald Trump a big, fat liberal. Watch this.
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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I lived in New York City and Manhattan all my life, OK? So, you know, my views are a little bit different than if I lived in Iowa.
ON SCREEN TEXT: Liberal, things that say.
Liberal things that believe.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Partial birth abortion.
TRUMP: I'm very pro-choice. I am pro-choice in every respect. And as far as it goes.
As far as single payer, it works in Canada. It works incredibly well in Scotland.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BERMAN: All right, you get the idea here. This goes on for a minute using Trump's own words to paint him, Alex, as a liberal. Who won this internet battle?
ALEX CASTELLANOS, FOUNDER OF NEWREPUBLICAN.ORG: Well, both of them. It's early in the process. And right now a lot of Republicans are concerned that they're losing their country or their country's in decline. And they want a president as big as their fears. They want an alpha male. And Donald Trump certainly is that, you know. He says anything very bold and aggressive. Now you're seeing - so that helps him. But now you're also seeing Jeb Bush stand up to the bully. A very strong presentation there from Jeb. So this actually helps both of them.
CAMEROTA: Jeffrey, you know what Donald Trump's changing of positions used to be called is flip-flopping. But in this - in this campaign, it seems to be that he's evolved. Will voters hold him responsible for the very liberal things that he used to say?
JEFFREY LORD, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: No, I don't think so. They didn't hold Ronald Reagan responsible either. And, you know, what's interesting is, in the 1976 Ford/Reagan standoff, Ronald Reagan campaigned in the Texas primary saying that he used to be a Democrat and the Ford people in the Republican establishment of the day attacked him for being (INAUDIBLE) a Democrat and cited his positions in that day. So, you know, we've sort of been there and done that. I really don't think this is going to have much steam.
BERMAN: Alex, is Donald Trump Ronald Reagan?
CASTELLANOS: Well, I was about to say, I keep - I'm stunned when Jeffrey says that. You know, Ronald Reagan campaigned around this country for -
LORD: I didn't say he was Reagan. I just said -
CASTELLANOS: You keep comparing him to Ronald Reagan, who had a core, a conservative core, even when he was a Democrat and certainly he - that conservative core defined his presidency. Are you really saying that Donald Trump is an ideological conservative? No one's going to believe that.
LORD: No, no, no, no, no. What I'm - what I'm saying is that their - their opponents in both cases, the Republican establishment, attacked them in precisely the same way by holding their earlier beliefs as a liberal against them. They did it to Ronald Reagan. They -
CASTELLANOS: But - no, but the point is Ronald Reagan - no, Jeffrey, the point is Ronald Reagan had believes. Donald Trump has no beliefs. Donald Trump has (INAUDIBLE) in whatever is convenient.
LORD: Oh, I don't believe that at all. I mean, you know, he's an alpha male. He's part of this (ph) belief.
CAMEROTA: Jeffrey, what about that? I mean what about - doesn't - don't these things - when you show what Donald Trump used to believe versus what he says today, can't it leave the impression that he does things for political expediency?
LORD: You know, that works against his persona. I mean his persona is that he says what he believes here. And I think at this point that is so well established over decades that I just don't think that this affects him.
CASTELLANOS: I think -
LORD: I don't think people will believe it.
CASTELLANOS: If I may, I think there's another way to look at it. We know he is a fairly ruthless businessman. He says so. He says we need a tough guy. And one thing we know about Trump is, he says what works, not necessarily what he believes. And it doesn't really tell us anything about how he'd govern.
[08:44:55] You know, a lot of people in the Republican Party are concerned about Trump because they'd actually like the Republican nominee for president to be a Republican. And Donald Trump isn't.
BERMAN: You know who's probably smiling about this?
LORD: Well, I - I don't think - I don't think that's the case at all. BERMAN: You know who's probably smiling about this right now? Dr. Ben Carson.
LORD: I think - no, I mean he's certainly -
CASTELLANOS: Yes, he is.
LORD: He certainly helped Ronald Reagan in the day. You know, Roger Stone, who worked for Ronald Reagan, will tell you so.
BERMAN: Let's shift gears to Dr. Ben Carson right now, tied with Donald Trump in the polls right now, on vacation and smiling as Donald Trump and Jeb Bush go negative at each other. So does Carson have a ceiling, Alex, and does Donald Trump or anyone else have the guts to actually go after him?
CASTELLANOS: Well, I don't know what Donald Trump will do. But I'll say this. You can look at the Republican outsiders, the top three in the Republican field, Trump, Carson and right now Fiorina, for example, in that poll Iowa, and Trump is the angry populist outsider. Carson and Fiorina are the conservative outsiders. And when you add them up they're either equal to or larger than Donald Trump. I think that's where this primary is going. It's heading in a conservative direction, not in an unprincipled angry populist direction.
CAMEROTA: Jeffrey, 10 seconds for your response.
LORD: Yeah, I would add Ted Cruz to that field. What is very significant is that collectively they're about 65 percent in one of these polls. That tells you all you need to know about the antipathy towards the Republican establishment,.
CAMEROTA: It sure does. Alex, Jeffrey, thanks so much. Great debate. Great talking to you guys.
Michaela.
LORD: Thanks, guys.
PEREIRA: All right, actor/director Ed Burns finally seeing his project through to reality. It took him like 20 years to come to fruition. He's going to join us ahead with a preview of his new TNT series, "Public Morals."
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[08:50:14] (CLIP FROM "PUBLIC MORALS" ON TNT)
PEREIRA: It's your call, man. It's your call. That was the fantastic Edward Burns and his new show, "Public Morals," a sneak peak into the gritty world of vice cops in the '60s in New York City. Burns stars as Terry Muldoon, a cop in the Public Morals Division, a plainclothes unit of the NYPD. He's here with me this morning.
Hey, really a pleasure to meet you.
EDWARD BURNS, ACTOR, DIRECTOR AND EXECUTIVE PRODUCER, "PUBLIC MORALS": Hey. Good morning.
PEREIRA: Been a fan of yours for awhile there, fella.
BURNS: Thank you.
PEREIRA: Congratulations on this because it's -- from what I understand, this was a baby two decades in the making for you.
BURNS: Yes. It sort of came about by marrying two passion projects that I've had for a long time. Years ago on the set of "Private Ryan," my father and my uncle came to visit. They met Steven. They were telling Steven these stories about what it was like to be a cop.
PEREIRA: Because they were both NYPD.
BURNS: They're both retired NYPD. And afterwards, Steven said you need to make a movie about those guys. And then I wrote a script for DreamWorks, which was my attempt at sort of an Irish-American Godfather set against the cops. Couldn't get that movie made for a number of different reasons.
Other passion project was my great grandfather was this Hell's Kitchen character. We have these old photographs of him with his champion pitbulls that he used to fight up on a roof in Hell's Kitchen. So we had this kind of gangster side to the family.
So I think becomes --When I found these photographs, I became obsessed with Hell's Kitchen history and gangsters. And then I had four scripts about hell's kitchen gangsters I couldn't get made. So years later when TNT approaches me about doing a television show, I said why not take the two passion projects and put them together and that's "Public Morals."
PEREIRA: It's so interesting to see how those projects that would have been big films are making their way to bigger audiences and getting some good budgets and getting to do like bigger, meatier pieces in cable. Did that give you - because I know this is deeply intensely personal to you - Did it give you more freedom or did it add more pressure to you as the creator?
BURNS: I mean, probably a little bit of both. There are a couple of things that are happening in cable television, which is very exciting. One is the audience that used to go to the art house theater to watch independent film, they now know cable TV is where I'm getting that kind of storytelling. So that was obviously the big draw for me to go to television.
The other thing is, you know, the executives are sort of reminding me of what it must have been like in the '60s and '70s when you had the studio executives giving creative freedom to all those great film makers and we had that golden age of American cinema.
PEREIRA: Right. So interesting, too, because you were talking to me a little earlier about, you know, your tremendous history, and you were even mentioning it now, in New York. This must have felt like a bit of a - I don't know - a mix of a postcard from the past and a bit of a love letter to the city that you love and grew up in.
BURNS: Yeah, it is. I mean, it's both. One is I -- when I first moved into Manhattan, had no money. So the only thing I could do was walk around. I would cover every neighborhood. I was always a little bit of a New York City history buff. So you'd walk down certain streets and see an old building, do a little research as to what that building was, what that neighborhood was like. That certainly informed sort of those old scripts that I wrote and informed this.
And the other thing was, you know, I was just always obsessed with all things New York, movies and television. So the show not only pays homage, but I'm also dipping into French connection, Damon Runyon, you know, Dead End Kids. So pulling from, you know, whatever that is, 60 years of filmed entertainment that I've been obsessed with and kind of brought it all into the show.
PEREIRA: I love it. Well, look, this is going to be a new obsession for me. Thanks for that. I need something to get me through the next few months. Make sure to tune into "Public Morals" Tuesdays at 10:00 p.m. on TNT.
Alisyn.
[08:55:56] CAMEROTA: OK, Michaela. When life gave one Massachusetts police officer lemons, a stranger made lemonade. It's "The Good Stuff" and it's coming right up.
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CAMEROTA: OK, time now for "The Good Stuff." When life gave one Massachusetts police officer lemons, a total stranger made lemonade. Sergeant Michael Mazzola of the Grafton P.D. is battling cancer. It's kept him off the job for months but an unlikely hero stepped in to help.
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TYLER HARDIMAR, SOLD LEMONADE TO HELP OUT SICK POLICE OFFICER: I just wanted to because I wanted to raise money for the police officer because he has kids.
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PEREIRA: OK, I love Tyler.
CAMEROTA: I should have warned you. That's six-year-old Tyler Hardimar. He heard the officer's story and without any prompting, he started a lemonade stand for the officer's medical bills.
PEREIRA: I love it.
CAMEROTA: Word got out, hundreds of people showed up, including the entire police department. We're going to need some tissues over here. Before you knew it, Tyler's Lemonade Stand raised more than $1500. Now hold on -
BERMAN: That's an expensive lemonade.
CAMEROTA: -- because what does Tyler want in return, you ask?
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HARDIMAR: He might say like wow, thank you. Thank you so much.
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PEREIRA: Oh, this is just so special.
CAMEROTA: There you go.
PEREIRA: This is really magical. A six-year-old making a difference in a grown man's life.
CAMEROTA: That's so great.
PEREIRA: That's special. Thank you for that, Alisyn.
CAMEROTA: You're welcome.
PEREIRA: All right, with that, we send it over to "NEWSROOM" with Carol Costello. A bit of a tear-jerker to end the show today.
