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Bush Pushes Back Against Trump and Rubio; CNN Money Now; NYC Mayor Talks Income Equality; New Season of "Somebody's Gotta Do It". Aired 8:30-9a ET
Aired October 01, 2015 - 08:30 ET
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[08:30:00] ANA NAVARRO, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Campaigns don't get panicked. They don't get nervous. What they do is they recalibrate to meet the conditions of a changing terrain. And I think that's what Jeb has to do. What any effective campaign has to do. The terrain in this 2016 cycle is very different than what anybody expected, frankly.
And as far as though, you know, the back and forth regarding Marco, that we want to turn into a telenovela, well, you know, what Jeb said is true. Jeb was governor when Marco was a, you know, newly elected green state legislator from west Miami, Florida, just a couple of miles down from where I live. And Jeb was a very active governor who brought in a lot of changes on a lot of policy issues and he had a group of legislators who were supportive with him and who worked with him. And it was a good vibe in Tallahassee. Marco was part of that group.
CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Well, Jeffrey, Ana's face on panic is beautiful and obviously placid. So if she's not worried about Jeb Bush, what would be the worry going forward? It is still so early. We don't know what happens in this race, especially if those at the top don't stay there. Then it becomes totally different. What should be the state of play for him?
JEFFREY LORD, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: Well, his problem is that he's dropping in the polls. That's the thing. I mean once upon a time he was considered the front runner. And he's dropping in the polls. You're starting to see these stories pop up about his nervous contributors and this kind of thing. I mean this - this is definitely a problem.
CUOMO: You think it -
LORD: Somebody else is going to be - somebody is going to be the alternative eventually to Donald Trump, and it will get down to one person versus one person. Now at the moment what we've got here are outsiders who are carrying the day, and that person seems to be Ben Carson, frankly. So Jeb has really got a problem here. His fundraisers know it. And I think he's going to continue to have a problem.
CUOMO: A quick hand raise. Who thinks that the CNBC guideline of you have to be at 3 percent to be in the debate is a good idea? Either of you? Jeffrey thinks it's a good idea.
ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: (INAUDIBLE). CUOMO: Oh, both of you think it's a good idea -
CAMEROTA: There you go.
CUOMO: Because it's going to wind up cutting out people maybe even like Governor Christie.
CAMEROTA: Absolutely, there might be a bigger happy hour debate, as we've seen -
NAVARRO: It might - I mean, you know, we -
CAMEROTA: Yes, quickly.
NAVARRO: We keep - we keep talking about - about Jeb Bush's numbers. How about Chris Christie? When was the last time we discussed him?
LORD: Right. That's a good point, Ana.
NAVARRO: This guy was supposed to be the front runner and he may now be relegated to the kids table, which, I mean, just the thought of Chris as a kid's table is amusing enough.
CAMEROTA: There you - well, on that -
CUOMO: Come on.
CAMEROTA: On that note -
NAVARRO: I pity the other kids at that table.
CUOMO: Come on.
LORD: It will be good.
CAMEROTA: Jeffrey - Jeffrey, Ana, thank you very much. That next GOP debate is at the end of October.
CUOMO: Uh-huh.
CAMEROTA: Michaela.
MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: I do love the image from inside Ana Navarro's mind.
All right, New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio managed Hillary Clinton's Senate campaign some 15 years ago. Now he's not ready to endorse her for president. Why is that? You'll hear straight from him, ahead.
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[08:36:49] PEREIRA: All right, here we go with the five things to know for your NEW DAY on this Thursday.
At number one, Hurricane Joaquin upgraded to a Category 3 hurricane, swirling winds at 120 miles an hour. Eighty million people along the East Coast are preparing for that storm.
Russia and the U.S. agreeing to meet for de-confliction talks as soon as today. The White House claiming Russian air strikes in Syria are targeting the enemies of President Assad, not ISIS.
Afghan forces retaking control of the city of Kunduz from the Taliban, but they say they're still fighting pockets of insurgents hiding in residential areas. U.S. forces providing support through air strikes near the airport there.
New details about when we're going to find out if Vice President Joe Biden will enter the 2016 race? Insider telling CNN the vice president will likely unveil his decision later this month.
And Donald trump lashing out at political rivals in a CNN interview. He claims he never attacks first, calling himself a counterpuncher.
For more on the five things, you can always visit newdaycnn.com for the latest.
Chris.
CUOMO: New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio has close ties to Hillary Clinton. Everybody knows that. So he's going to endorse here, right? Wrong. He's going wait and he'll tell you why, next.
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CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN MONEY CHIEF BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Good morning. I'm Christine Romans. It's time for "CNN Money Now."
Is Twitter finally ready to bring back its co-founder as CEO? New CEO Jack Dorsey could be named CEO this morning. Dorsey's been doing the job for the past three months on an interim basis, but he already has a CEO job. He runs the payment platform Square. Betting wisdom (ph) is he'll run both companies. Twitter shares are up on these reports.
[08:40:13] Donald Trump's hotels, hacked. Hackers sneaked a computer virus into Trump hotels across the U.S. and Canada. The malware grabbed payment information, including credit card number, expiration dates and security codes for the full years. It's still unclear if hackers managed to pull all that info from the system. You could be effected if you visited between May 2014 and June 2015.
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PEREIRA: New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio speaking out about the 2016 race, giving his take on the two frontrunners and also explaining how he wants to make America more inclusive. CNN's Poppy Harlow spent a lot of time with the mayor and she joins us now.
POPPY HARLOW, CNN CORRESPONDENT: We did, Michaela. We took the subway up to the south Bronx. That is the poorest congressional district in the country. We talked about income inequality. He's put forth his progressive agenda. Very liberal. Wants to see minimum wage across the country at $15 an hour, raise taxes on the wealthy. How is he doing to sell it and are the Democratic candidates saying enough on that front? Listen.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. Mayor.
BILL DE BLASIO, NEW YORK CITY MAYOR: Thank you.
What kind of work are you doing?
How are you?
HARLOW: You wanted to bring me here.
DE BLASIO: Yes.
HARLOW: Why?
DE BLASIO: Because that is an example of the neighborhood, Melrose in the Bronx, that is really suffering, but there are things that can be done to address income inequality.
HARLOW (voice-over): Mayor de Blasio wanted to take us on the two (ph) trains up to the south Bronx to show us one of the affordable housing projects his administration has been promoting.
DE BLASIO: We went from a neighborhood where the median household income is $179,000 to here in the Bronx, $21,000 for a family, below the poverty level, is the median income here in this neighborhood.
HARLOW: In 20, 25 minutes.
DE BLASIO: Correct. That's all it took to go from one world to another, effectively. And I've often talked about the tale of two cities. You know, our mission is to try and create more fairness, more opportunity across the board, and we're using the tools of the city government to do it.
HARLOW: And to those who say, Mr. Mayor, that sounds two socialist. Capitalism, not perfect. America, not perfect economically, but the best example there is in a world. What do you say to them?
DE BLASIO: There's no contradiction between a free enterprise system and a very energetic role in government creating fair regulation and making some of the adjustments we need so that people can participate in a society fully.
HARLOW: Where is that right balance because you don't want a society where everyone has the same?
DE BLASIO: I don't think it's conceivable to have such a society with human beings involved. I want a society where there's opportunity for all. I want a society where no one's left out economically or otherwise.
[08:45:05] HARLOW: Homelessness in this city has risen under your administration from 50,000 to 57,000 people right now. Why? DE BLASIO: Because of the same tale of two cities I talked about. The
weight of the economic crisis of the last few years has been felt more and more. What we found in this city is while people were becoming economically less stable, losing their jobs or in jobs that just didn't pay much more than minimum wage, the cost of housing kept going up. So the basic economics stopped working for more and more New Yorkers.
ROBERT REICH, FORMER U.S. LABOR SECRETARY: I could not agree more. In fact, I think that --
One of the most difficult trends in America right now, which is income segregation, it is not just racial segregation. It is income segregation. As we are segregating by income, we are creating different societies that have almost nothing to do with one another.
HARLOW: I've read half of New Yorkers are at or near the poverty line right now.
DE BLASIO: 46 percent. 46 percent, yep.
HARLOW: You were Hillary Clinton's campaign manager for her 2000 Senate race. You've said you have, quote, "tremendous respect for her" but you have not come out and endorsed her. Why?
DE BLASIO: Because I want to see the vision flushed out. I think when she announced her candidacy, I thought she was arguably the most capable and experienced person to ever run for the office. But I said we're facing a profound economic crisis and the kind of inequality we've never seen before. We need a set of solutions.
To her great credit she has, with each passing week, put more meat on the bone.
HARLOW: So she's getting you closer to her?
DE BLASIO: Well, I think she's getting a lot of Democrats closer because she's speaking to the issues at hand. But the point is there are still some outstanding issues that I, for one, need to see and I think a lot of people need to see a little bit more on. But this is why we have these debates.
HARLOW: Donald Trump came forward with his tax proposal. What do you make of the plan?
DE BLASIO: The one part I like, and I give him credit for, is calling for the closing of the carried interest loophole because I think his voice actually matters on this. But the rest of the plan is very suspect. And it looks to me like a plan that continues to reward wealth instead of work. It certainly looks like a plan were wealthy Americans do better, actually pay less taxes.
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HARLOW: On the note of Donald Trump, I want to show you what he brought me. Take a look. He brought me a hat and he told me that it is quite obvious, Michaela, this is his quote, "It is quite obvious if you want to get a good idea across in America you need to put on a hat." I asked him if he was envious of Donald Trump's poll numbers. He put on his hat and he said, ah, let's see if it works for the progressive agenda. He's making a hard push.
PEREIRA: Donald Trump's saying is "Make America great again." Very interesting play on that.
HARLOW: It says "Make America fair again."
PEREIRA: All right, Poppy. Excellent conversation. Thanks so much.
HARLOW: Thank you, Mick.
PEREIRA: Alisyn?
CAMEROTA: Well, Mike Rowe is back and he's here to tell us the adventures he'll take on in this season. Oh, and he's brought some very special guests. Stick around.
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[08:51:16] PEGGY ROWE, MIKE ROWE'S MOM: You told me this season would be different.
MIKE ROWE, CNN HOST, "SOMEBODY'S GOTTA DO IT": What are you talking about?
P. ROWE: I saw you jumping off a burning building on YouTube.
M. ROWE: Mom, I would never do that.
P. ROWE: I saw you drag racing on Facebook.
M. ROWE: That wasn't me.
P. ROWE: I saw you parachuting on Instagram.
M. ROWE: You're on Instagram?
P. ROWE: Michael, we're everywhere.
M. ROWE: What is he doing?
JOHN ROWE, MIKE ROWE'S DAD: Periscoping.
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PEREIRA: I am in love with his parents.
CAMEROTA: That is fantastic.
PEREIRA: Fantastic.
CAMEROTA: That was CNN's host of "SOMEBODY'S GOTTA DO IT," Mike Rowe, and his parents there.
PEREIRA: Peg and John.
CAMEROTA: Talking about some of the crazy stunts that their son will take on in the new season of the hit show. So what will Mike take on next? And how do his mom and dad feel about it?
PEREIRA: We need to know.
CAMEROTA: Luckily we have them here. Mike Rowe and his parents, Peggy and John Rowe, join us now. Welcome, guys.
P. ROWE: Hi.
PEREIRA: And I see Mike squirming a little bit. His parents are about to -
M. ROWE: Please, I'll be fine over here on the end.
PEREIRA: -- lift the veil.
M. ROWE: Talk amongst yourselves. I'm good.
CAMEROTA: Peggy, how do you feel about the crazy stunts that Mike does? Because he does a whole bunch of them.
P. ROWE: I don't like the dangerous ones.
CAMEROTA: I don't either.
PEREIRA: But do you find out about them before or after?
P. ROWE: Never before. The day he jumped out of an airplane, he called that evening and he said well, it's over and I'm still alive.
(LAUGHTER)
P. ROWE: What's over? Oh, I jumped out of an airplane with a parachute.
CAMEROTA: Oh my gosh. John, was he like this as the child? An adventurer, a daredevil.
J. ROWE: Not really, no. It was all news to us.
PEREIRA: It's not the first time you guys have been part of the show. Like you were on a little bit last year, I think, right?
P. ROWE: We were. Yes. We've done shows with him before.
M. ROWE: I've been exploiting them for years, Michaela.
PEREIRA: For years. What do you make of all of this fuss around your son?
P. ROWE: Oh, we love it. No, it's fun. J. ROWE: He used the right word.
PEREIRA: Exploit.
J. ROWE: Exploit.
P. ROWE: Well what he does is he makes himself scarce, so when he calls and he says, would you like to hang out with me for a couple of days?
PEREIRA: You're thrilled.
P. ROWE: Of course we're thrilled.
CAMEROTA: Right. But he doesn't mention there is going to be a camera crew there and you are going to be shooting a promo.
P. ROWE: Not always. But it's fun. I mean, for two older people, you know, we don't have that much excitement in our lives anymore.
J. ROWE: What other older person do you mean? (ph)
(LAUGHTER)
PEREIRA: But let's talk about this next episode. There is some excitement and some zen. A nice juxtaposition of the two extremes.
M. ROWE: Yeah, you know, the way the show works, typically we have a plan and then we have some stuff that isn't a plan. So we intentionally went to Texas to profile a place, where you have been, Alisyn.
CAMEROTA: I love the stunt ranch because you do jump off high things and you also can zipline through fire, as I did. Did you do that?
PEREIRA: Sounds awesome.
CAMEROTA: Did you blow stuff up and then zipline through it?
M. ROWE: There were guns, there were explosions, there was fire and I wasn't exactly sure what we were going to do with it, so we just decided to redo the open to the show, you know, like a Bruce Willis movie, right, which was kind of exciting. Anyway, then we wound up in Chicago at the Field Museum --
PEREIRA: Little icky.
M. ROWE: It's a little icky -
PEREIRA: Not gonna lie.
M. ROWE: But there's a woman there called Anna and she does really amazing things with squirrels. She stuffs them and makes skin samples.
PEREIRA: A statement I've never heard before, "does really interesting things with squirrels."
M. ROWE: You have got to get out more, Michaela. It's a big, beautiful world.
CAMEROTA: But were you grossed out when you had to dissect a squirrel?
M. ROWE: No. I haven't been grossed out really in a long time.
PEREIRA: You know what he used to do for a living, right?
CAMEROTA: Oh, yeah, yucky things.
M. ROWE: Yeah, that's -
PEREIRA: This is him.
CAMEROTA: I get that.
PEREIRA: This is him.
M. ROWE: Fairly immune.
PEREIRA: And then on the flipside, you zenned out...
M. ROWE: We found a guy in Ventura who basically makes vertical towers out of rocks, but he balances them in a way that when you look at it you just say that can't be possible.
PEREIRA: It's mystifying.
M. ROWE: Like that.
PEREIRA: I'm obsessed with this kind of stuff.
M. ROWE: And, you know, it's not crazy glue or anything.
PEREIRA: Nope. Yeah, you proved that.
M. ROWE: Yeah, I stopped by for five minutes and stayed for a day until I - well, almost figured out how to do it.
[08:55:02] CAMEROTA: And Peggy and John, this is who you raised. A man of many hats.
M. ROWE: Gotta be proud.
P. ROWE: It's hard to believe.
CAMEROTA: Literally.
PEREIRA: But you know what? We love him to death. He's part of the family and we really appreciate that Mike Rowe's - Cousin Mike, we call him.
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J. ROWE: People like him.
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PEREIRA: We like him all the time.
CAMEROTA: Thanks so much.
PEREIRA: Peggy and John, really a delight.
CAMEROTA: Great to meet you guys. Thank you.
PEREIRA: You survived, Mike, but you're sweating over there.
M. ROWE: I know I'm sweating --
CAMEROTA: Of all of the stunts, this is making you most nervous.
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M. ROWE: I just want to get out of here with my dignity.
(CROSSTALK)
M. ROWE: Yes, well whatever's left.
(LAUGHTER)
J. ROWE: What does that mean?
CAMEROTA: All right. You can catch the latest episode of "SOMEBODY'S GOTTA DO IT" this Sunday night 10 p.m. Eastern right here on CNN.
"The Good Stuff" next.
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CUOMO: Carl Bates is a proud farmer from Illinois, but a recent cancer diagnosis left him unable to harvest his crops. So guess what? The entire community did it for him.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He's never going to complain about anything. You know, never wants to ask for help, but he'd be the first one in line to do this for somebody else.
It got to be to the point that there was so many people showing up that they actually had to tell people we have enough.
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CUOMO: Had to turn people away.
PEREIRA: That's incredible! Look at that!
CUOMO: Normally it takes a week to clear those 450 acres, they got it done in 10 hours. Carl is still fighting cancer. He says he's the proudest of his bumper crop of friends.
