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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Our foreign policy is a complete and total disaster. Weakness, confusion and disarray.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Carly! Carly!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Carly! Carly!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Carly! Carly!

[05:58:22] SEN. TED CRUZ (R-TX), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: An extraordinary leader and the next vice president of the United States, Carly Fiorina.

CARLY FIORINA (R), VICE-PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: This is the fight of our time.

TRUMP: Cruz can't win. What he's doing picking vice presidents?

JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: Bernie Sanders laying off hundreds of campaign workers.

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (D-VT), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I am very good in arithmetic, and we are behind.

DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR: Local authorities found prescription opiate medications on Prince.

DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: They want to know where these medications came from.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are way too cavalier with the prescribing of these medications.

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ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY with Chris Cuomo, Alisyn Camerota and Michaela Pereira.

Good morning. Welcome to your NEW DAY. It's Thursday, April 28, 6 a.m. in the east. And up first, Donald Trump outlining his foreign policy plan with a

very blunt message: America comes first. His doctrine was admittedly thin on details, drawing a negative reaction across the political spectrum.

While that was going on, Ted Cruz was trying to get some attention of his own by announcing his running mate, Carly Fiorina. Will it make a difference with voters in Indiana? We're going to speak live with Carly Fiorina in our 7 a.m. hour, and she can tell you for herself.

ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: On the Democratic side, Bernie Sanders campaign begins laying off hundreds of workers. What is Bernie's path forward now?

We have the 2016 race covered the way only CNN can. Let's begin with CNN's Phil Mattingly. He is live in Washington for us.

Good morning, Phil.

PHIL MATTINGLY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Alisyn.

For weeks it has appeared Donald Trump has been struggling with who exactly he wants to be on the campaign trail. The boisterous showman who's electrified thousands at his rallies, or a deal maker who behind the scenes is a respected statesman. Over the course of 12 hours yesterday, it became very clear he has not made up his mind yet.

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MATTINGLY (voice-over): A tale of two Donald Trumps.

TRUMP: We're just about ready to put it away, folks.

MATTINGLY: Fresh off a resounding five-state victory.

TRUMP: Now we're down to two stragglers. Let's be nice. Two stragglers.

MATTINGLY: Mocking Ted Cruz's last-ditch effort to blunt his march forward by announcing his running mate, Carly Fiorina.

TRUMP: Cruz can't win. What's he doing picking vice presidents?

MATTINGLY: And ridiculing his alliance with Republican rival John Kasich.

TRUMP: This little marriage of the two of them, boy, did that backfire. I call them the colluders. Right? The colluders. I love -- I love talking about it, because stupid decisions.

MATTINGLY: A far cry from the serious scripted GOP front-runner on display during a foreign policy speech just a few hours earlier.

TRUMP: America first will be the major and overriding theme of my administration. MATTINGLY: Reading from a teleprompter, Trump offered few specifics,

instead, repeating campaign pledges on ISIS and NATO, threatening to upend decades-old alliances.

TRUMP: The U.S. must be prepared to let these countries defend themselves.

MATTINGLY: And forge new ones with countries traditionally seen as threats.

TRUMP: Some say the Russians won't be reasonable. I intend to find out.

MATTINGLY: The speech prompting formal rival Lindsey Graham to declare, "Ronald Reagan must be rolling over in his grave."

Could Cruz's gamble with Fiorina deliver a win in Indiana? Many political insiders say it's do or die for him.

CRUZ: Some might ask why now? It is unusual to make the announcement as early as we're doing so now. I think all would acknowledge this race, if anything, it is unusual.

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MATTINGLY: Now, guys, there are 57 delegates at stake in Indiana, and there is no question about it. If Donald Trump has a big win, a sweeping win in the state, his path to the nomination becomes very clear.

So it's a crucial moment for Ted Cruz, one he's trying to take advantage of with this vice-presidential pick, not just because of the math. So guys, when you talk to Cruz advisors, they're acknowledging they're also pushing back against a hardening narrative: Donald Trump, presumptive Republican nominee -- Alisyn and Chris.

CUOMO: The old narrative is hardening, Phil Mattingly. Never good for heart health or political health.

Let's discuss with CNN Politics executive editor Mark Preston; CNN politics editor Juana Summers; and Jackie Kucinich, the Washington bureau chief of "The Daily Beast." So Preston, nobody was expecting an exegesis on foreign policy from Donald Trump.

CAMEROTA: I sort of was.

CUOMO: But you had -- that was a very Camerota-esque word.

Now, you will have Newt Gingrich who said, "No, no, no, they all have it wrong." He did it -- put out a tweet yesterday. He said, "The only word that mattered yesterday, America. He gets it."

And he did a good job of doing that. He was panned for lack of details in that speech, but he was going to be embraced throughout the day and will continue to be embraced for what he said. He wasn't speaking to you and you and me. He was speaking to middle America, and what he said yesterday was "Our allies need to -- need to come in, and they need to start paying their own way." And he need to say -- he also said, make America great many times, and that plays very well and has played very well for him this campaign.

CAMEROTA: Jackie, he wasn't only panned for sort of lack of specifics. He was also panned for mixed messages. You know, is it isolationism? Are we supposed to stay home? Are we supposed to intervene when Christians are being persecuted? You know, which one is it?

KUCINICH: I mean, I think when I look at that speech, the answer to your questions are yes. Because it really was sort of all over the map, which is one of the reasons I think you saw some snarky tweets from someone like Lindsey Graham.

CAMEROTA: Let me just read it, because it's fun to read this one. Lindsey Graham, who of course, has been on the record no fan of Donald Trump, says, "Not sure who's advising Trump on foreign policy, but I can understand why he's not revealing their names."

KUCINICH: Yes. And you also got the sense if anyone had been able to ask any follow-up questions, Donald Trump would have not been able to answer them. Because it was a very stilted, very reading what's on the teleprompter kind of speech and showed a lack of depth of knowledge in an area that's really a critical commander in chief test.

CUOMO: Well, that's an interesting perspective. Juana, let's bring you in on this. Because yesterday when we were interviewing Mr. Trump, he said something that I thought might be a tell of what would be coming in the speech, and sure enough, it was.

I said, "How do you feel about President Obama's call to put in more troops, special operators into Syria? Do you agree with that?"

He said, "I like the move. I don't like that he's telling everybody, though."

This is a -- that's a very common tactic. Why is it employed, this idea that telling people is what the risk is, that keeping it quiet, the strategy? That was one of his main points about how to change the military strategy in the speech.

JUANA SUMMERS, CNN POLITICS EDITOR: It was. And one of the more interesting things, I thought about that speech. You hear this whenever Donald Trump talks about foreign policy.

[06:05:05] But another thing he mentioned that's really interesting, in a number of ways, Donald Trump actually stepped away from Republican Party orthodoxy. He actually said a couple of things that were almost praising some moves by the Obama administration. So this is not the kind of speech you would hear from a typical foreign policy hawk and defense analyst here in Washington, D.C. As Mark noted, this could be a speech that plays really well for him in middle America.

One other thing I wanted to note that was really interesting to me about this speech: the most incendiary things Donald Trump has talked about when it comes to foreign policy on the trail, so that he'll build that big, beautiful wall between the United States and Mexico, that plan to temporarily bar Muslims from entering the country, those kinds of things, not in that speech today. And I thought that was a really fascinating thing to kind of look at the evolution of how far he's come in foreign policy and how he's looking to have a more somber approach as he heads towards potentially clinching that general -- that general election, going ahead to the nomination.

CAMEROTA: Those things are very notable, Mark, and what Juana was saying, some of the things that he was talking about yesterday could have been plucked from the Obama doctrine of foreign policy in terms of "we'll never be involved in wars," and what Obama said is a candidate. We'll never been involved in unnecessary wars. I mean, he was echoing some of that. So it's interesting that it plays so well with his base.

MARK PRESTON, CNN POLITICS EXECUTIVE EDITOR: Well, it does. And what else was interesting is that he was critical of George W. Bush and how we got into Iraq. But as much as he was criticized by the likes of Lindsey Graham yesterday, he was also praised by -- by Senator Bob Corker from Tennessee.

And why that's important is that Corker is what you see as somebody considered to be an establishment insider. And at a time right now when it looks like -- that Trump is going to become the nominee, I think you're going to see more establishment types start to get behind his candidacy.

CUOMO: Look, here's -- the problem with Trump going into this would be, on one level, the same problem for all these guys, Jackie, no matter who you are, Hillary Clinton included. Foreign policy is very complex, and it doesn't yield a lot of progress in this day and age. So it's hard to go out there and say, "Here's what I was going to do."

That's why he's getting hit with this stick that America first? That sounds like the 1930s. We know what that spawned. We know what that helped lead to. Is there anywhere he could have gone in this speech where it would have been universally accepted?

KUCINICH: Well, no, and you're right. Foreign policy is something that also has a million different opinions.

Now, unlike other candidates, Hillary Clinton does have a little bit more experience as the former secretary of state in this department, so her Republican challenger is probably going to have to know a little bit more than (UNINTELLIGIBLE) candidates.

CUOMO: Right, but that comes with a record, though, Jackie. The plus/minus on that is she doesn't have a little more experience; she has infinitely more experience. You know, she traveled more than any other secretary of state in the modern age, but that comes with the record, where you look around the world right now, and it's not the happiest place. She's have to own that, as well.

KUCINICH: You're absolutely right. But again, there is going to have to be a little bit more just base knowledge in order to even be on the same level as her on a debate stage.

And you're right: there's a lot to criticize in Hillary Clinton's record on that, but, you know, the bar is a little bit higher for these Republican candidates.

Also, you know, Ted Cruz is a senator. Carly Fiorina does have some background in foreign policy. So it is -- I mean, so the playing field is a little bit different than Donald Trump than maybe it had been for other Republican nominees in the past.

CAMEROTA: Juana, let's talk about Carly Fiorina. Yesterday, the other big news is that Ted Cruz tapped her to be his vice-presidential pick. Why, of all his choices, Carly Fiorina?

SUMMERS: There are a lot of reasons. Obviously, the Cruz campaign, first of all, the move itself to go ahead and name a vice-presidential nominee now, Ted Cruz not being the presumptive nominee, is trying to deprive Donald Trump of some of the oxygen. Everyone is talking about how close he is coming to clinching the nomination. Ted Cruz is looking to be a part of the conversation. He is making a forceful counter to the Clinton campaign by naming a woman.

In picking Fiorina, he is making a forceful counter to the Clinton campaign by naming a woman. He is very obviously looking ahead to the large stock of delegates that are at store in California's primary in early June. Carly Fiorina obviously ran for Senate there unsuccessfully in the primary against Barbara Boxer but has a record there, as well. He's looking for somebody who can energize the base and fire them up, hopefully suck some votes away from Donald Trump and perhaps, on a second ballot, the RNC go ahead and pick up a win.

Whether that will work, though, this is a really big gamble. Ted Cruz is running the risk of either looking incredibly brilliant or just having a big failure on his hands if this does not go his way.

CUOMO: Juana analyzes it perfectly. I just don't know that Fiorina checks any of those boxes. You know, and certainly, I mean, just the California box, yes, she ran there. She got pummeled, and she hasn't been so nice about Ted Cruz, even in an environment where nobody's being that nice. She distinguished herself.

Here's some of the things that Carly Fiorina, Ted's new best friend, had to say about the senator during the race.

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FIORINA: Ted Cruz is just like any other politician. He says one thing in Manhattan. He says another thing in Iowa. He says whatever he needs to say to get elected, and then he's going to do as he pleases.

I find it odd that Senator Ted Cruz did not renounce his dual Canadian citizenship until 2015 when it became clear he was running for president.

(END VIDEO CLIP) CAMEROTA: Does that come back to haunt them?

PRESTON: Well, I mean, if I'm Donald Trump, I am putting this out in an ad and just running it on a loop or maybe I'm not at all. Because in many ways, this was just a desperation attempt.

[06:10:06] Right now all we should be talking about for the next three hours is the fact that Carly Fiorina is Ted Cruz's vice-presidential pick. But guess what? He's having to share the spotlight with Donald Trump on a foreign policy speech that, in many ways, in a presidential campaign, is generic. These speeches happen all the time.

So Ted Cruz, mathematically eliminated from getting the nomination before the convention...

CUOMO: So why would we discuss it at all if it weren't in this current environment? Normally if you have no shot at beating me and you say, "This is who I'm going to run with," usually you get more laughed at than you do lauded for the move.

PRESTON: Right. Because you have one shot, and that is to try to take it to Cleveland. And you try to win on the floor, hoping that Carly Fiorina can shore up any support that you can get at this point to stop Donald Trump from getting to 1,237 delegates.

CAMEROTA: Jackie, there have been a lot of moments in this campaign that are unusual, and yesterday was no exception. Let's play a moment of Carly Fiorina when she was accepting the V.P. nomination. Watch this.

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FIORINA (singing): I know two girls that I just adore. I'm so happy I can see them more. Because we travel on the bus all day, we get to play. We get to play.

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CAMEROTA: Poetic?

KUCINICH: It was unusual. I don't know. That didn't -- that didn't bother me as much as I think --

CUOMO: She held -- I thought she held the note well. I thought it was a bold move. I respect it.

CAMEROTA: Absolutely. I will never criticize anyone's singing, as you guys know.

CUOMO: I've just got to admit, I'm telling you what: I'm not -- I'm unwowed.

KUCINICH: We'll see how this -- Indiana, it comes down to Indiana and if, you know, Carly's song helps her there, great. I mean, if Ted Cruz can't win Indiana or do very well, it doesn't matter who his running mate is, because it's going to be impossible for him to block Donald Trump.

But that's the thing about hail Marys, right? If they're caught in the end zone, you're brilliant. If they're dropped, well, you know, you shouldn't have done a hail Mary.

CUOMO: He's just got to finish the prayer. He's got -- today, he should have come out and say the "full of grace" part. Because this was a true hail -- this is a true prayer.

CAMEROTA: All right, panel, thank you very much.

Coming up in our next hour, Ted Cruz's newly-minted running mate, Carly Fiorina, joins us live right here on "NEW DAY."

PEREIRA: We sing on set, and you give us the stink eye.

CUOMO: Well, what does that tell you?

PEREIRA: You're deaf.

As for the Democrats, reality appears to be setting in for Bernie Sanders. His campaign begins laying off hundreds of staffers. He vows to continue his fight all the way to the convention, though.

Athena Jones live in Washington with more of what's going on inside his campaign -- Athena.

ATHENA JONES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning. Big changes are coming to the Sanders' team. They're laying off more than 200 staffers. This is after he lost four out of the five states that voted on Tuesday night, which of course, brings his rival, Hillary Clinton, closer to securing the nomination. Now, Sanders' team says this is the natural progression of every campaign.

So the workers that will be affected are the workers in states that just voted but so will some workers in other states and so will some members of the national staff.

So while the Sanders' team is saying there's nothing to see here, this is not a big deal, these are not generally the moves you make when you think you're going to be the nominee and have to mount a national 50- state campaign in just a matter of weeks. But as you mentioned, Sanders is still vowing to stay in the race until the convention. Take a listen to what he had to say yesterday.

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SANDERS: I am very good in arithmetic, and I can count delegates. And we are behind today. If we do not win, we intend to win every delegate that we can so that, when we go to Philadelphia in July, we're going to have the votes to put together the strongest progressive agenda that any political party has ever seen.

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JONES: So Sanders has his eye on the convention. Meanwhile, Clinton has his eyes squarely on presumptive GOP nominee Donald Trump.

Back to you, Alisyn.

CAMEROTA: Dana, thank you very much for that.

We do have some breaking news to tell you about that came in overnight in the investigation of Prince's death. A law enforcement official telling CNN the singer had prescription painkillers on him and in his home when he died.

CNN's Stephanie Elam is live outside of Prince's Paisley Park estate with the details. What have you learned, Stephanie?

STEPHANIE ELAM, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Alisyn.

Yes, at this point we understand that local authorities have looped in the DEA to get their help with this investigation. What is -- what they want to know is who is prescribing these drugs to him and whether or not they were being overprescribed to the iconic artist.

Also learning here that the time that the plane landed in Lurine (ph), Illinois, carrying Prince -- this was about a week before he died coming back from his concerts in Atlanta. They believed then that he was treated for a prescription pain medication reaction of some sort and that he continued on with that flight and was possibly given some sort of treatment for this reaction. They do believe it was probably because of these opioids.

[06:15:10] However, we know that the autopsy has been done. We won't know for a few more weeks, they're saying, exactly what was in that toxicology.

I'll send it back to you, Chris.

CUOMO: All right, Stephanie, appreciate it. Thank you very much for the report. We will stay on that story, of course.

Other news this morning: former House speaker Dennis Hastert admitting he sexually abused several teenage boys when he was a high-school wrestling coach. Two alleged victims testified at Hastert's sentencing hearing yesterday, where he apologized for, quote, "mistreating them." The judge branding the 74-year-old former speaker of the House as a, quote, "serial child molester." Hastert was sentenced to 15 months in prison for bank fraud linked to the sexual abuse and must register as a sex offender.

PEREIRA: Wow. Quite a close call at Atlanta's Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport. It is now being investigated by the FAA. A Delta plane cleared for takeoff Wednesday just as another Delta flight crossed the runway as it taxied after landing. An air-traffic controller realized the error and immediately told Delta Flight 873 to abort takeoff. The pilot was then forced to slam on those brakes. Those planes were only about a mile apart at the time. Thankfully, no one was injured.

CAMEROTA: I don't like that. CUOMO: Like you say, a mile apart, like, oh, that's far. Not at

those speeds it isn't.

CAMEROTA: All right. Meanwhile, Bernie Sanders is laying off hundreds of campaign staffers. Is political reality setting in for the Vermont senator? Our panel will tackle that, next.

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[06:20:29] CAMEROTA: Hundreds of Bernie Sanders' campaign staffers will soon be out of a job. The campaign is downsizing. Even if the candidate vows to keep up the fight against Hillary Clinton in the Democratic race.

Let's talk about this with our panel: Mark Preston, Jackie Kucinich and Juana Summers. Great to have you all back.

So Mark, Bernie is not saying that he's laying off his -- some of his campaign staffers, because there's no path to the nomination. He has a different explanation for it. Let me read that to you. He says here, "It will be hundreds of staff members. We've had a very large staff which is designed to deal with 50 states in this country. Forty of the states are now behind us." So we have had a great staff, great people. They're just -- they're superfluous here. We don't need them anymore.

PRESTON: Right. So if he was going to be in a position right now to win the Democratic nomination, you wouldn't be cutting staff; you'd be reallocating the staff into a general election mode. So clearly, we're at a point in the campaign where it is winding down, but it's not ending. And he's been very, very vocal about that.

CUOMO: But I thought he had so much money. Did he burn through it, or is this about something else?

PRESTON: No, I think, you know, we heard that earlier. I think he -- here's a reality that he's very good at arithmetic, which makes me feel good because he's a U.S. senator. He knows how to do math.

And he realizes that, you know, his position in life right now is not going to be the Democratic nominee but to become the voice for the liberal wing of the Democratic Party. Something that Howard Dean tried to do after his 2004 run. It was unsuccessful.

CAMEROTA: Let's talk about that, Jackie. What is the end game? What's the successful end game for Bernie Sanders?

KUCINICH: Well, he hinted there that he's still going to the convention, but I think increasingly, it's going to be about the Democratic platform and making sure that the issues that he's brought into this campaign and has hammered this entire time gets inserted in this platform that will be crafted before the Democratic convention.

So those issues stay alive and still, you know, keep him alive in a sense, you know, as they go into the general election campaign. CUOMO: Juana, we were just hearing Mark Preston say Howard Dean in

2004. I guess that's the best analog, but can you remember anybody going into the convention as a No. 2 with as much strength as Bernie Sanders will have, and what do you think that strength could mean at the convention?

SUMMERS: Absolutely. I think that what that strength will mean at the convention is that the Clinton campaign is going to be looking at how can they make sure that this is locked up ahead of the convention. Bernie Sanders obviously responding last week to the fact that he might not, in fact, be the nominee, made a road map, essentially, for how Secretary Clinton could perhaps win over his supporters. That she -- the responsibility will be on her. And that she'll have a lot of work to do; she'll need to bring these issues that Jackie talked about, like Wall Street, like the corrupt -- the corrupt banks that Bernie Sanders talks about all the time, the progressive platform that he's run on.

She needs to be talking about those issues to win over his supporters for the general election and to make sure that she can go ahead and sew this thing up over whoever the Republican nominee is.

So I think, I'm a Clinton campaign right now, that's what I'm looking at, and that's the play book I'm looking at moving forward, is making sure that those people show up and vote for me in the general.

CAMEROTA: Mark, as we've talked about Hillary Clinton does seem to be pivoting to the general election. She talks more about Trump, less about Bernie Sanders. She put out a fundraising e-mail yesterday using language that we hadn't really heard before in her fundraising appeals. Here it is: "Trump's unpredictable, often dangerous rhetoric has created a volatile atmosphere in this race that requires us to be even more prepared than before. This campaign is going to need deep resources for the wild ride that likely awaits us. If you're ready to fight by Hillary's side, chip in right now."

PRESTON: Donald Trump has billions of dollars and if he wants to use his money to try to defeat Hillary Clinton, she's going to need every nickel, every dime that she can get to do it.

But that message, not only directed at Democrats to donate to her, but really directed at Republicans who are scared that Donald Trump is going to become their nominee, because he is unpredictable not only politically but on the world stage, as well. You know, the knock against Donald Trump has been do you want to give him the nuclear codes? Do you want his finger on the button? And that's what we see there.

CUOMO: Jackie, a lot of people in the game yesterday were questioning why he chose foreign policy to make this statement. Not only is he playing into Hillary Clinton's strength, but he is playing into this perception that Preston was just articulating that there are a lot of people who may not like Hillary Clinton to the center and to the right out there in the electorate.

But when it comes to foreign policy, they may just be too afraid of what would happen under a Trump presidency. You think there's anything to that?

KUCINICH: I do. I mean, Donald Trump likes to project strength, and that's what this speech yesterday was about.

[06:25:10] You know, I think one of the more interesting fundraising appeals and one you're going to see a lot more in the coming days is the women card that Donald Trump mentioned yesterday. It struck me, I only got, like, one or fundraising appeals off of that yesterday from various Democratic organizations. That's going to be a windfall. I mean, in addition to what you're talking about with foreign policy.

CUOMO: Right. But I don't know that that breaks new ground for Hillary, necessarily.

KUCINICH: That's true.

CUOMO: I mean, his numbers with women are what they are. Hers with women are what they are. Alisyn was doing a good point of contrasting with that yesterday.

But on foreign policy, do you think that -- Juana, I'll ask it to you, but do you think that this could be a dividing line where even people who don't like Hillary Clinton say, you know, there's too much at stake. You know, strength is one thing when you're talking about a wall and all that other stuff. But when you're talking about it to other countries who have nuclear capabilities and we need, it's too dangerous.

SUMMER: I think if we fast forward to a general election, in fact, Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton are their respective party's nominees and put them on a debate stage in late September or October. You're going to see a very big contrast for two different foreign policy visions of the world. I that is going to demand that Donald Trump respond in more specificity than we saw during the speech yesterday.

He did paint a vision that, I think, as Mark said in the earlier segment, will work for those outside of Washington. It is certainly not full of specifics, not full of details. But he talked about America first. He talked about strength. He slammed President Obama's foreign policy failures as reckless and rudderless.

But if you put those two on a stage and there will be a very, very stark contrast. I think that Donald Trump is probably going to be looking at boning that up and changing -- perhaps change his tone a little bit when it comes to the issue of foreign policy. I'm not sure how far he'll go or how effective it will be against someone with as much experience as Hillary Clinton.

CAMEROTA: OK, panel. Thank you very much. Great to have all of your insights with us -- Michaela.

PEREIRA: All right. We're watching some weather. The central part of the country battered by severe storms. Is the region out of the woods yet or is more in the forecast? We'll get the latest, next.

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