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[08:00:05] UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Cubs have won the World Series!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The curse is broken.

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ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY with Chris Cuomo and Alisyn Camerota.

ALISYN CAMEROTA, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning, everyone. Welcome to your NEW DAY. It is Thursday, November 3rd, 8:00 in the east.

Up first, the curse is broken. Chicago Cubs winning the World Series for the first time in more than century, 108 years to be exact. Their game-seven victory over the Cleveland Indians was one for the ages.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Boy, oh boy. And the lore of it, 108 stitches on a baseball, 108 years since the Cubs won. Was that a sign? They certainly feel that all along Chicago's north side because they've been partying all night long and into this morning.

We've got all the bases covered for you. Let's begin with Andy Scholes live in Cleveland. You got to witness history of the good kind firsthand.

ANDY SCHOLES, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: Certainly did, Chris. What a game. What a night. Game seven last night going to go down as one of the greatest baseball games ever. And the emotions that both fan bases had to go through throughout the night enough to last a lifetime, particularly the highlights. Bottom of the eighth inning, Indians down by two. Rajai Davis sent the crowd at Progressive Field into a frenzy as he crushed this one for a two-run homerun, went right off the camera in leftfield. You can check out LeBron James going nuts. He was pumped up that the game was now tied.

We go to extra innings, and after a short rain delay, Cubs left fielder Ben Zobrist coming through in the clutch. He hits an RBI double in the 10th inning. He would be your World series MVP. Bill Murray weeps as his Cubs win in an absolute thriller 8-7 to end their 108-year World Series drought.

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KRIS BRYANT, CUBS THIRD BASEMAN: This is what you dream for as a kid. I'm 24 years old and I'm the luckiest guy on the planet.

JAKE ARRIETA, CUBS PITCHER: I feel like a wet dog. Everybody stinks in here. I know I do. It's sweat, champagne, beer --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's fine.

ARRIETA: It's fine. It stings. It definitely stings.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How excited are you to get back to Chicago to celebrate with the fans?

THEO EPSTEIN, CUBS PRESIDENT OF BASEBALL OPERATIONS: Jed Hoyer is not in charge. I'm going on a bender.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SCHOLES: Got to love Cubs GM Theo Epstein. His new nickname, "curse breaker." He of course broke the 86-year drought for the Red Sox, now the 108-year for the Cubs. Many people consider him a miracle worker in baseball.

And Chris, I've got to tell you, the Cubs returning home to Chicago earlier this morning. You see Anthony Rizzo. He had the World Series trophy getting off the bus. What a scene. And all the players I talked to in the clubhouse last night, they said they could not wait to party with all the Cubs fans there in Chicago.

CUOMO: Boy, that was some moment, some moment. All right, Andy. Congratulations to you. Enjoy it.

So you had thousands of delirious fans watching the gathering at Chicago's Wrigley Field. Remember this game was played in Cleveland. They were there all night anyone. CNN's Brynn Gingras live outside that historic ballpark in Chi-town. What was it like?

BRYNN GINGRAS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, Chris. Well, the sun is coming up and people are just not going home. They're just going to continue into this Thursday. And I can tell you that right now there are a number of cars backed up heading toward Wrigley Field, and it's most likely to get a peek at that. That's something Cubs fans did not think they'd see for a long time, World Series champions. That has been ground zero for Cubs fans, people coming here, taking pictures.

So much excitement has been filling the streets ever since that last out in Cleveland. I've got to tell you, it wasn't even the fact that they won this game. Talking to fans, they said, it's how they won this game, with such dramatic fashion, as you just heard Andy describe. One woman said she got a manicure before the game, and she bit off all of her finger nails because she was so nervous about how this was all going to turn out.

But fans really just continuing the celebration, so excited that this drought is over. And among those fans, we, of course, have some big Chicago natives. President Barack Obama tweeting out his congratulations to Chicago even though he's a White Sox fan. He, of course, was saying you can come to the White House before I vacate. Also, Hillary Clinton, a Chicago native, she was just pouring out with excitement watching this game and also tweeting, saying "They did it 100 years later and the drought is finally over fly the W." And Alisyn, all morning we've been seeing cars go by flying that "W." I think the next step into Thursday is canceling work for many of these people and then waiting for the parade to continue the celebration, Alisyn.

CAMEROTA: Totally understood. Not a boss in the world would crash down on those employees. Thanks so much, Brynn.

So turning now to the presidential race. All the focus is on the big battleground states of course. And Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are hitting those critical swing states as a series of new polls show a tightening race. We are just five days away from election day. CNN's Joe Johns is live in Washington with more. Good morning, Joe.

[08:05:13] JOE JOHNS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Alisyn. In the closing days Donald Trump continuing his personal struggle with message discipline as Hillary Clinton's closing arguments to get out the vote are sounding much more somber than her campaign would have preferred with the tightening in the polls continuing just five days to go.

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JOHNS: Donald Trump reminding himself to stay on message.

DONALD TRUMP, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We've got to be nice and cool, nice and cool. Stay on point, Donald. Stay on point.

JOHNS: Making his big push in battleground Florida as new CNN polls show the race tightening in several swing states.

TRUMP: I have been watching Hillary the last few days. She's totally unhinged.

JOHNS: Hillary Clinton striking a grave tone, targeting minority voters in Nevada by using Trump's own words against him.

CLINTON: Someone who demeans women, mocks the disabled, insults Latinos and African-Americans.

JOHNS: Clinton also aggressively setting her sights on the red state of Arizona where Trump holds a five-point lead.

CLINTON: If Donald Trump were to win this election, we would have a commander in chief who is completely out of his depth and whose ideas are incredibly dangerous. Or maybe, heaven forbid, start a real war instead of just a Twitter war.

JOHNS: Both candidates ramping up attacks, Clinton calling Trump dark and divisive.

CLINTON: We know that the presidency doesn't change who you are. It reveals who you are.

JOHNS: As Trump hits her on trustworthiness and on Obamacare.

TRUMP: Real change begins with immediately repealing and replacing Obamacare. You think Hillary's going to restore honesty to government? I don't think so, folks.

JOHNS: And hammering away at the recent FBI scrutiny over Clinton's private e-mail server.

TRUMP: They just found 650,000 emails. I have a feeling those e- mails are going to be -- there's going to be some beauties in there.

JOHNS: In an interview with "People" magazine, Clinton calling the FBI email review just noise and distraction while remaining confident in the final stretch.

CLINTON: Everything he has said and done both in his career and in this campaign is a pretty good preview of what's to come.

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JOHNS: The focus on the battleground states continues today. Donald Trump in Jacksonville, Florida, and Selma, North Carolina. Hillary Clinton also in the Tar Heel state once again in Winterville and Raleigh. Chris, back to you.

CUOMO: All right, Joe, thank you very much.

So much to discuss. Let's bring in the right person to talk to on the Trump side, Donald Trump's campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway. Good to see you my friend. So we see the polls moving closer, especially in battleground states. Why?

KELLYANNE CONWAY, TRUMP CAMPAIGN MANAGER: Especially in blue states, also. Because Donald Trump's closing with a positive message. He's talking about his love for the country, his love for the people, what he's going to do to help them solve everyday problems. And Hillary Clinton unfortunately is going lower and lower. They're going totally negative. People don't like that. Female voters especially don't like that. They feel like they deserve and should be respected, Chris, to have a substantive conversation.

So this is a contrast of two campaigns, particularly in these closing arguments. Hillary Clinton and even the president and vice president of the United States are talking about Donald Trump, and Donald Trump is talking about the American people. I think that's the difference.

CUOMO: I hear him doing two things. Bashing Clinton about the emails, bashing Obamacare, and both of those are resonant. I also hear him channeling someone who I think I know. I want to play this sound bite. I know you're hearing this plenty this morning, but let's play Donald Trump talking to himself.

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TRUMP: It's feeling like it already, isn't it?

(APPLAUSE)

TRUMP: We've got to be nice and cool, nice and cool. Stay on point, Donald. Stay on point. No side tracks, Donald. Nice and easy. Nice. Because I've been watching Hillary the last few days, she's totally unhinged. We don't want any of that. She has become unhinged.

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CUOMO: You know what the giveaway was, he does not refer to himself as Donald. He says Trump. Is he channeling you? Is that the advice you're giving him?

CONWAY: Oh, look I think Donald Trump does his best when he's talking about issues, and when people get to see the Donald Trump that we know, who's incredibly gracious, really funny, and is doing this for all the right reasons, I mean, I think people will look back at this campaign, particularly after he wins on Tuesday, Chris, and they'll say we totally missed how much Americans appreciated, and I hear at these rallies, it make me very emotional, how much America appreciated the fact that he and his family made enormous sacrifices to run for president.

Americans have told pollsters for decades we want somebody who is not of the political system. We want a true outsider not just to disrupt the place, but to be the voice of the forgotten man, forgotten woman.

[08:10:03] He didn't need the money, the fame, the power, the prestige, the position. He has all of that. And he and his family, who are just amazing, have sacrificed enormously. And I think it just gives him a connected issue with people. Some people talk about the new ABC News/"Washington Post" poll. The most telling statistic in the last week in that poll is the question, which candidate, Clinton or Trump, cares more about people like you? Do you know they're tied on that? President Obama was beating Mitt Romney by like 82 percent to 15 percent on that measure. It's not a measure that Republican candidates usually do well on, and yet Trump and Clinton are tied on that sort of compassion/empathy/connected tissue.

CUOMO: Some people argue if it were anyone else running against Hillary Clinton you'd have a yawning gap on that --

CONWAY: It would not --

CUOMO: Cyclically the Democrats are supposed to lose. I mean, I don't have to tell you this, but for the audience, ordinarily after two terms --

CONWAY: And she will.

CUOMO: -- shift to the other side.

Let me ask you this, why is it so hard for all the sacrifice, all the work he's done, why is it so hard for him to do what should be most easy for him at this level of the game, control his mouth, control what he says. Control -- CONWAY: He's doing it perfectly.

CUOMO: Well, for a couple of days --

CONWAY: -- Obamacare --

CUOMO: But he's literally talking to himself out loud to remind himself, don't attack anybody. Why is it so hard for him?

CONWAY: It's not that way. I also think he's got to be seeing the cesspool that become of the Clinton campaign and realizing this is just not what people want. This is not the Democratic Party that you and I grew up in, Chris. It is first of all so far to the left I can't even reach my hand out and touch it. But secondly, just from a messaging perspective, we are so far removed now from the belief in hope, or from the audacity of hope. This is negative to go after Jim Comey, attack Donald Trump --

CUOMO: But there the offer of it was just on there with the hat. Nobody has brought negativity to the race the way Trump has.

CONWAY: That's not fair. I mean, he's had an unprecedented deluge of negative coverage against him --

CUOMO: Because he's said outrageous things targeting groups of people that usually the media is trying to protect, not watch them be exposed for their vulnerability. That has to factor into it, no?

CONWAY: When he is talking about, you said he is railing against Obamacare, there's a reason for that.

CUOMO: Absolutely.

CONWAY: These premiums are going up 116 percent in Arizona, 53 percent in Pennsylvania, the state where I'll be with Melania Trump today and Donald Trump tomorrow. We're going to win the blue state of Pennsylvania because his message of trade and illegal immigration and jobs, when he goes to Pennsylvania, he says to the men and women there, your jobs got shipped to Mexico and China. I'll bring them back. They say, you know what, I know there's just a couple days left. If you have the time, come to a Trump rally. You'll be very moved by what you see, because people are there, 15,000 people will be there in Hershey, Pennsylvania, tomorrow night.

CUOMO: How many will be booing me when I walk into the place.

CONWAY: Zero. Zero.

CUOMO: And Trump makes eye contact, what's the chance he calls me out like he did Katie Tur, as if it's some kind of sport.

CONWAY: This election is not about you or even about Donald Trump. It's about the people. And it took somebody, honestly, to live his version of the American dream and run for president who is so far outside the system that he's a credible messenger to shake it up. You've got Hillary Clinton, somebody who is not under one, but two FBI investigations. That's not normal. Most people I know are not under --

CUOMO: You've got these multiple probes against him and you've got historic negatives on both sides.

CONWAY: For different reasons. People are negative towards him for different reasons. They think she lies for a living. They're not going to vote for someone they believe is the best illustration we have of a rigged, corrupt system. The hash-tag "drain the swamp" has been such an incredibly resonant and popular I think Twitter and Facebook meme I guess you would call it, because he's saying drain the swam, he's saying it's just corrupt and rigged from stem to stern. I have a whole list here on my phone, I can't even read it, on the small screen of all the speeches over half a million dollars that Bill and Hillary Clinton gave, and it's all connected to folks who are either trying to give money -- we can't be inured to this. This is big news.

CUOMO: No, but I'm saying she's running against a guy who you yourself called out earlier in the campaign for building his wealth on the backs of the little guy. That's why he's not pulling away in this point in the race.

CONWAY: No. He's not pulling away because you all love to talk about how the demographic has shifted, the blue states, the blue wall. We are in her head and we are forcing her and Tim Kaine and President Clinton and President Obama and Vice President Biden into traditionally blue states. Why was Tim Kaine in Wisconsin the other day? Why is she in Michigan this weekend? Why has Bill Clinton been hanging out in Pennsylvania if, as they try to hoodwink everybody in the media, they're competing in Texas, they're going to turn Indiana --

CUOMO: They're not competing in Texas.

CONWAY: No they're not. But everybody wrote those stories. CNN carried that story.

CUOMO: And it was wrong to do. I didn't do it, but it was wrong to do.

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CUOMO: But why are they also out there as your people? Because they are worried about who's going to come out and vote on both sides. And in a great irony, Trump, who was talking about how the election is rigged because of us and everything else that he could finger, now there is some truth of voter suppression going on in a very important place like North Carolina, and it seems to be against African- Americans.

[08:15:04] And it seems to ring very familiar with promises that your campaign made. We're going to suppress that vote. We know how to do it.

CONWAY: That's just not true.

CUOMO: Trump telling people go and watch and you know what I mean by watch. And now you got white supremacists answering his call --

CONWAY: He's denounced completely --

CUOMO: You have but not Trump --

CONWAY: Yes, he has. Yes, he has.

CUOMO: When that man doesn't like something that's said nobody can stop him from talking about it, he is loud and proud.

CONWAY: He has completely and --

CUOMO: Not about Duke --

CONWAY: -- renounced.

CUOMO: Not about this KKK --

CONWAY: Now you sound a little desperate and partisan.

CUOMO: Not personally. I'm not -- listen, all I'm desperate for is some type of closure that is positive in this election.

CONWAY: Positive closure? Go tell Hillary Clinton that point, Chris, because they are going full-on negative and you know it. For tens of millions of dollars --

CUOMO: They are negative, yes.

CONWAY: OK. Well, you want a positive closure, go watch --

CUOMO: Trump is saying she should be impeached, she will be impeached --

CONWAY: She won't be impeached because she won't be elected president.

CUOMO: He's saying it.

(CROSSTALK)

CONWAY: But she will be under his cloud of scandal and she will be and I think it matters to people. People on Tuesday are going to say I think I'll vote for the candidate who is not under two FBI investigations. There's only one choice that fits that bill.

People -- we can't have this national nightmare spill over into after the election and I am personally offended as an American who loves democracy who grew up in a Democratic household, I'm personally offended that the Democratic strategy right now is wait out the clock, rush through the election cycle, maybe nobody will notice you're under two investigations-

CUOMO: Wait a clock, you just had Donald Trump who won't come on this show, who won't do news interviews, who's putting his hat over his eyes put his hat over his eyes saying don't mess it up. Don't mess it up. That's not trying to wait out the clock?

CONWAY: No, it's not trying to wait out the clock. We're competing in blue states like Wisconsin and Michigan. We're forcing them to go back on the air in Colorado which is now tied according to a media polls --

CUOMO: Sure, Nevada just had a huge turnaround also.

CONWAY: Nevada, we're up six. And you know, we've been talking about this, I've been talking about the undercover Trump voter for months, under hail of criticism, including on CNN. But I would say oh, poor Kellyanne I just say, see, told you so. People will vote for him.

It's not that they're embarrassed to say so it's that they already decided they want new and different direction for the country. They're not going to vote for her and now they're finding reason to vote for him --

COUMO: And people have to decide. The only poll that counts is on Tuesday.

CONWAY: But look, Donald Trump, and Chris what really counts is Donald Trump has already committed that when he's elected for all people, including those who didn't support him.

CUOMO: He's going to have a lot of work to do, Kellyanne, because he has divided this country.

CONWAY: I hope you will be part of the work, because it's very important that people in prominent positioning like realize we have country to put back together to heal. You can't possibly be happy that people in poverty don't have health insurance. They need to own this --

CUOMO: I get it. I get the issues and I will be there. Don't make it easy to be there when you're threatened at rallies and you told maybe it should be easier to attack the media and change the First Amendment laws. But again, this will be decided on Tuesday.

CONWAY: Yes, thank you. God bless you.

CUOMO: Kellyanne, keep your energy up.

Alisyn?

CAMEROTA: All right. Let's talk about the other side. We want to bring in Democratic Congressman Patrick Murphy. He's running for the U.S. Senate in Florida against Marco Rubio. He is also a supporter of Hillary Clinton.

Congressman, good morning.

REP. PATRICK MURPHY (D), FLORIDA: Good morning, Alisyn. How you doing?

CAMEROTA: I'm doing well. Let's look at Florida. The all-important state of Florida can be very

interesting to see the numbers in the polls there right now. CNN's poll of polls, which is where they we crunch together all of the latest polls, it shows Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump in a dead heat at 45 to 45.

And, Congressman, you know I hear also some people say given the Hispanic population, in Florida, why isn't Hillary Clinton doing better there?

MURPHY: Well, I sense a lot of momentum as I'm traveling the state. I was with Secretary Clinton just the other day, with Vice President Biden yesterday, going to be with President Obama today and I sense so much enthusiasm out there.

So, I think what we're really going to see, and especially last few days, is great turnout, and we've already seen some record turnout from Hispanic voters.

But look, it's Florida. It's always going to, you know, be a swing state. It's always going to tighten up at the end, but I think there's a lot of momentum not only for Secretary Clinton but in our race against Marco Rubio because, look, at the end of the day, Floridians want a senator that's going to show up for work every day.

CAMEROTA: Let's talk about your race again, Marco Rubio all eyes also on this race yours because you know it's been a tough swing the balance of power in the Senate, and, of course, Marco Rubio himself ran for president. It's neck and neck.

Let me show you the latest CNN poll. Marco Rubio's getting 49 percent. You are getting 48 percent. How do you think the presidential race has affected your Senate race?

MURPHY: Well, there's no question historically that most folks the ticket. And then they go down ballot accordingly.

But you know let's not forget that Donald Trump beat Marco Rubio by 20 points in his home state of Florida. As I travel the state when I'm talking to Republicans, Democrats, independents, they tell me the same thing, hey, Patrick, we know at least you're going to show up to work. Marco Rubio has the worst voting record of any senator from Florida in nearly 50 years.

So, there's a reason why we are neck and neck. People want someone who is going to show up. They want someone that's going to stay strong.

[08:20:00] Marco Rubio's flip-flopped on key issues like immigration reform. Which is why he got booed off the stage last week in Orlando at a Puerto Rican event there. People don't want Marco Rubio anymore. And I feel really good about the momentum we have won two debates and a lot of great turnout right now here in Florida.

CAMEROTA: By the way, we want to mention to our views that we did invite Senator Rubio on NEW DAY this morning as well but his campaign declined.

I'm going to ask you, Congressman, about a story in "The Hill" newspaper about your campaign. It says that the FBI has been investigating an alleged illegal donation scheme involving a Saudi family and your campaign. Basically, it suggests that there were straw donors set up of some kind. CNN has not independently corroborated or confirmed this story.

Did you know about this FBI investigation?

MURPHY: No. And our campaign follows the letter of the law. We've never been contacted by the authorities. No one on my campaign has been contacted.

As you saw in the story, it's a lot of speculation. Look, there is a reason why the authorities didn't even comment on this. It's another attempt by the Republican super PACs, these right wing groups, trying to distract from the fact that Marco Rubio is a no-show. That he doesn't even like his job. And they're going to continue trying to push these negative stories, nonsense, to distract the voters here in Florida.

But at the end of the day, Floridians see through this nonsense and they want a senator that's going to show up. I'm proud of my 97 percent voting record. Proud to be one of the most independent members of Congress because I'll always do what's best for Florida.

CAMEROTA: So, just to be clear, until "The Hill" published this you didn't know there was an FBI investigation?

MURPHY: No. And our campaign has never been contacted by the authorities. So, you know, we continue to follow the letter of the law, and again, this is just speculation and Republican groups trying to distract and they're going to continue trying to push this story. But we're not concerned, and nor have we been contacted.

CAMEROTA: Do you think Marco Rubio's campaign is behind planting this story or somehow leaking it?

MURPHY: Well, I don't want to be a conspiracy theorist. Who knows?

What I do know is there are right wing Republican groups out there, and this is all they do, literally, is they are out there pushing misinformation, coming up with frivolous claims on all the different Democratic campaigns that they're trying to push these stories to try to distract from the fact that their candidates are continuing to support Donald Trump, continuing to endorse Donald Trump.

I mean, look at Senator Rubio, right? After everything Donald Trump said about him, after Donald Trump beat him by 20 points, after Marco Rubio called Donald Trump a con man and said he couldn't be trusted with the nuclear codes, Marco Rubio still endorsed him. And even after everything that came out about Donald Trump being a sexual assaulter, Marco Rubio doubled down on his endorsement of Donald Trump, showing that he will continue to put his own political ambitions in front of what's best for Florida. CAMEROTA: Congressman Patrick Murphy, we appreciate you coming on NEW

DAY and helping to explain all of this to us this morning.

MURPHY: Thank you, Alisyn.

CAMEROTA: Thanks for being here.

Let's get to Chris.

CUOMO: All right. We got breaking news to report. Iraq's ministry of defense tells CNN coalition forces have entered Mosul for the first time since 2014. They are trying to free that city, obviously, from ISIS.

Let's get right to CNN's senior international correspondent Arwa Damon on the front lines -- Arwa.

ARWA DAMON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Chris.

Well, they managed to enter the Intisad (ph) neighborhood and this is to the east/southeast of Mosul. But according to two senior officials with the Iraqi army's ninth division, that is a division that did enter into the city, they have at this point just cleared two blocks describing the fighting as being incredibly intense, very slow going, not just because of the severity of the resistance that ISIS itself is putting up, but also because of the concern for the civilian population. Remember, upwards of 1.2 million civilians believed to be inside that city.

And a lot of these people it is worth noting their last interaction with Iraqi security forces more than two years ago was when those forces put their weapons down and fled the ISIS onslaught, leaving the population there, and many others throughout this country, to a -- an ordeal that is truly unimaginable.

We've been speaking to some people who have been fleeing the fighting from other areas. One woman telling us of how she was enslaved by ISIS, she was a mother taken away from her children, raped, and then gave birth to an ISIS baby, and all she can do at this stage is really hope that he never finds out about his father, and it's just the beginning of this battle, just nightmare-like stories we're going to be hearing about.

CAMEROTA: Oh, my gosh, Arwa. Every story that you tell us, every personal story that you bring us is just so searing. Thank you so much for being there on the front lines for us and sharing all of your reporting. Of course, we'll check back with you.

So, back here, it's a race to the finish. What will the candidates say in their final push to Tuesday?

[08:25:03] Supporters on both sides make their case, next.

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CUOMO: More polls, new numbers. The race is getting tighter between Clinton and Trump. So, what do they need to do to get voters to choose them next Tuesday?

Here to make the case, for their candidates, I say that slowly and deliberately for a reason, CNN political commentator and Clinton supporter, Bakari Sellers, and CNN political commentator, former Donald Trump campaign manager, Cory Lewandowski.

I will cut you off if you mention the other candidate. Either of you.

So, we're going to start.

Bakari Sellers, on the issue of trust, OK, both of these candidates get a big stink bomb number. Arguably, Trump has edged ahead of Clinton in this. What is your argument for why Hillary Clinton can be trusted?