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Migrants in Hungary Start Walk to Germany; Press Conference on Fox Lake Police Shooting; Should U.S. Do More to Help Migrants; Interview with John Kirby. Aired 1:30-2p ET

Aired September 04, 2015 - 13:30   ET

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[13:30:00] BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN ANCHOR: Arwa, what's the plan here? How far do they think they'll get? How far do they want to get?

ARWA DAMON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, if they have to walk all the way to Germany, that's what they're going to do. They pretty much go as far as they can tonight and, at some point, somewhere they will stop. They do have sort of a refugee leader that is calling out the various points that they're taking breaks at.

This is the main highway, though, that connects Budapest to Vienna and these people decided to take matters into their own hands. A lot of them have been waiting at that Budapest train station for days, if not longer, and many of them were just exhausted, they were mentally, emotionally, physically drained. They couldn't take seeing their children sleeping on the floor anymore and they did not want to wait for the various different European leaders to make the decisions that needed to be made to come up with a long-term solution.

You can see residents providing their support, handing out water. This is heartening to see for those making this arduous trek because this is not a government that is friendly to their plight. This is not a government that people theses with everything they have been going through.

So to see citizens of this country coming out basically supporting them as they move along. One woman was in tear and saying, "I am sorry for what my prime minister has been doing." It's exhausting, especially for the children.

KEILAR: Arwa Damon following this march onward into Western Europe where these refugees are trying to find safety and security.

Hillary Clinton spoke about this, this growing refugee crisis in Europe. She said the U.S. needs to find ways to help.

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HILLARY CLINTON, (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE & FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE: I think the entire world has to come together. It should not be just one or two countries, or just Europe and the United States. We should do our part as should the Europeans. But this is a broader, global crisis. We now have more refugees than we've had in many years, I think, since the Second World War. As we've seen, tragically, people are literally dying to escape the conflict in Syria.

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KEILAR: I am going go to Admiral Kirby in just a moment.

Admiral Kirby, stand by. I need to break out of this. We'll ask you some questions about this growing crisis.

Let's go to Fox Lake. There is a press conference going on, on the manhunt for suspects involved in the shooting of a cop.

DET. CHRISTOPHER COVELLI, LAKE COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT: We are receiving an outpouring of support from corporations and businesses both in the immediate area as well as the region. I'm joined by the vice president of Motorola Solutions. Motorola Solutions, upon learning of the tragic death of Lieutenant Gliniewicz in this senseless murder immediately came to the Lake County Sheriff's Office and pledged $50,000 to any tip that leads to the apprehension and conviction of the offenders in this case. In addition to that, we've received a number of pledges in offers from corporations and businesses offering the same thing. In fact, any corporations or businesses that are wanting to contact us regarding this can contact Lake County Undersheriff Raymond Rose and he'll coordinate the money regarding the reward from the tip leading to the apprehension and conviction.

Due to that and the number of tips we've had incoming, the FBI has graciously been assisting us form beginning, is offering us fully staffed, fully functional tip line it will be staffed by FBI agents from the task force. We've had so many reports coming in, very good tips and leads that this is going to be extremely helpful and help us process these leads and send investigators out in a timely matter.

The phone number for tips regarding to the murder of Lieutenant Gliniewicz is 800-callFBI. That will be operational 24 hours a day, seven days a week, and it will be staffed during that entire time.

In addition to that, they've created a web site specifically for this investigation. It's www. FBI.gov/Foxlake. At that web site, individuals, if they have leads or tips or suggestions that will aid in this investigation, they can submit them, and not only that, they can submit images and videos if they choose to do so. This is going to be extremely helpful to us.

We are grateful for Motorola's Solutions' support and the pledge they've offered. We're grateful to this community. And we're working very hard.

I'm going to turn the mic over to Ali Capata, vice president of Motorola Solutions, to say a few words, and then, Chief Filenko.

[13:35:23] ALI CAPATA, VICE PRESIDENT, MOTOROLA SOLUTIONS: Thank you.

The fatal shooting of Lieutenant Gliniewicz was a horrible act against a public servant who put his life on the line everyday for 30 years to protect the people of Fox Lake. While the loss of every first responder is a tragedy, this occurred in an area that many of our Motorola Solutions headquarter area employees and their families call home. My local team worked with Lieutenant Gliniewicz and respected his tireless leadership and commitment to enhancing public safety.

Today, in support of the Fox Lake Police Department's efforts to solve this horrible crime, Motorola Solutions is pledging $50,000 for -- a $50,000 reward for the arrest and conviction of those responsible.

On behalf of Motorola Solutions, the thoughts and prayers of our employees are with Lieutenant Gliniewicz's family as well as his colleagues in the Fox Lake Police Department. We're with them during this difficult time as they work to bring the people responsible for this tragedy to justice.

Thank you.

GEORGE FILENKO, COMMANDER, LAKE COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT: Ladies and gentlemen, I'm sure there are going to be questions, but let me review a couple of things.

There were some questions asked about a weapon recovered yesterday. I can confirm it was the officer's weapon recovered at the scene. We received confirmation yesterday and we're following up on some forensics from that weapon as we speak.

The other thing I want to make clear is that we are still reviewing a substantial amount of video. We've coordinated with the FBI, who have the ability to the chronologically put together video segments we've collected from a number of areas within the community. Once that's ready, we'll review those.

We've been contacted by a number of sources overnight who have provided video that we didn't realize was in the area, one of them being the Lake County Department of Transportation. Some of you familiar with the area know they have intersection cameras. One of the things we have historically known about those cameras is that it's usually recycled within a matter of several hours. They were astute enough to hold video.

Now I'll be open to some questions.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Would you make clear about the weapon? Can you tell us how many times it had been fired? And can you tell us where in proximity to the lieutenant's body was the weapon found?

FILENKO: It was found near the lieutenant's remains. I can't reveal how many times it was fired.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Was it the murder weapon?

FILENKO: Can't reveal that, either.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Do you still believe the suspects are armed or do you have reason to believe that was the weapon that was used, they fled the scene and left it behind? FILENKO: I'll tell you I believe the subjects are dangerous and I'll

reiterate this. They murdered a police officer so they're capable of doing anything.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: You were reviewing a video yesterday with Homeland Security. What have you found out?

FILENKO: That hasn't returned. I know I've been reading comments within the media about that particular video. There is some difficulty there because it's not a chip. It's not a DVD. It's a hard drive. So I'm still waiting for results from that. Once we get those, we'll coordinate with the FBI and turn that video to them as well.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Two white men and one black man, is that correct?

FILENKO: That's correct.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: How many other videos have you received so far?

FILENKO: I don't have an exact number. I'll say several.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: As you talk about assembling the chronology of the videotape, do you have images of people you believe are the suspects?

FILENKO: We have images of people we believe are subjects that we'd be interested in talking to.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Is that from the video you spoke about yesterday?

FILENKO: No, this is other video we've acquired within the last 24 hours.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: What about that DOT video?

FILENKO: We haven't acquired that yet. We're hoping it might show us foot traffic. The video you're referring to has images of individuals on it.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Do you have any information about a potential vehicle?

FILENKO: Not at this time.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: (INAUDIBLE QUESTION)

FILENKO: I'm not able to answer that question.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Is that video from a residence or a business? Just to clarify?

[13:40:05] FILENKO: There are a mix of videos from residences and businesses.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Commander, the lieutenant indicated in his radio transmission he was pursuing the suspects on foot, but unless you can correct me, it doesn't rule out the possibility the suspects have an automobile there that they might have gotten into and left the scene. Can you clarify it? Is there a possibility they drove away and they are miles from here now?

FILENKO: It's a possibility. You remember if you looked at the area that roadway is located remotely. However, there's two main roadways surrounding that so there could have been a vehicle. There's a possibility parked in either one of those roadways or industrial section.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Have you gotten tips from businesses about employees who have not been to work since this incident? Schools or anything else that gives you some indication of who you might be looking for?

FILENKO: We've gotten -- some of the things that we do is, when we canvass, we do pull records, specifically the high school. We've gone there. We've asked for absentee records. If we go to a business and we're canvassing we're asking if employees haven't shown up. That's part of the canvassing process.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Can you tell us the caliber of the weapon?

FILENKO: The caliber of the weapon recovered is a .40 caliber. I'm not certain about the make of the weapon.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Can you describe to us what is the search effort, the canvassing looking like? Is it a lot of online stuff or phone calls?

FILENKO: The answer to your question about whether it's phone calls, online, walk ins, detectives knocking on doors. Yes, all of those.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Can you describe what the surveillance video that was recovered that was sent to Homeland Security, have you seen it? Can you describe what you saw?

FILENKO: We've got Homeland Security pulling that. But I want to emphasize now, we've acquired several more videos that are more relevant than that one.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Have you seen those?

FILENKO: Have I seen those? I have not had the -- I have not reviewed those yet. I understand the FBI -- again, tremendous assistance -- is putting together those videos for us, is vetting some things. We'll have the opportunity to review those within the next several hours.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: What is it about those videos that makes you believe they'll be more useful?

FILENKO: Timelines and consistency.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Do they have a sometime stamp?

FILENKO: Well, there's timelines and consistency. We can tell chronologically, again, the FBI has the technology to put these videos in sequential order.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Can you tell us from what from these timelines -- when did they see the suspects, you believe maybe the killers, how soon after the murder happened did they first show up?

FILENKO: Well, we've got videos that we examine before and after. So before the actual what we believe time of the murder or the approximate time and thereafter.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Do they show individuals going into the area where the murder took place?

FILENKO: I won't reveal that at this point.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: So all these video, what is the one piece of video you're most optimistic about?

FILENKO: We're optimistic about all of these videos right now because they all come together chronologically. They're not separate, not independent. They're different cameras putting a storyline together.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Is there one particular people or people throughout those videos?

FILENKO: Let's say there's a commonality.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: For clarification, does the video show two white men and one black man?

FILENKO: There's a commonality and an interest in those videos.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: The other thing you were waiting for the crime lab results. Have you gotten anything back from the crime lab?

FILENKO: We've gotten preliminary results from the crime lab that's why I'm confirming it was the officer's weapon recovered at the scene. I'm not at liberty to reveal any of the forensic information at all.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: When will you be able to know that?

FILENKO: When we make an arrest.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Commander, can you make clear to those of us here, do you believe the killers are still local or not and can you shed light on why you believe it?

FILENKO: Well, again, I'll explain this that we historically have seen that, especially in locations that are uncommon locations and are probably only known to people that are local -- and when I mean local it doesn't necessarily mean the Fox Lake area, it could mean some of the adjoining communities. Those are not common -- that area is not common, it's not a public area. So generally what we find is -- again, I'll use this term that individuals are more comfortable hiding in place. I know that the general public sense this is belief at times that people automatically go on the run or try to escape. Yes, that's still a possibility. We don't know. But historically, what we found is they still localize. We're hoping they're still within our reach.

[13:45:26] KEILAR: We're going to jump out of this press conference going on in Fox Lake, Illinois, about the murder of that police officer. Three suspects still at large.

I want to bring in Tom Fuentes. He's a CNN law enforcement analyst, a former FBI assistant director.

One of the things, Tom, that you're really -- I heard you, you were watching that. You were baffled that they have a lot of video, they've had substantial in the scheme of things amount of time, and yet we haven't seen it and they haven't seen it.

TOM FUENTES, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST: This is what baffled me, Brianna. They recovered the first video. They said, "We gave it to Homeland Security, they're going to analyze it." I thought to myself just then, not to brag about the FBI, but what is Homeland Security's capabilities with this? I was an agent for 10 years in the Chicago Division. We would take evidence that need to have serious enhancement like a bank robbery film or other video from a security camera that was not -- either on a hard drive, not just a simple thing to analyze. We would go to the airport, have it packaged, give it to a United Airlines pilot who would fly it to Washington. An agent would meet the plane and receive it from the pilot. That evidence would have been at Quantico within three hours of being handed to the first agent at the crime scene. Why Homeland Security got this three days ago and the police haven't seen it yet. They haven't given the results of that video. They haven't given further information of the individuals supposed to be on that, I don't know what -- there must be an excuse for this. I don't know what it is.

KEILAR: Tom Fuentes, we'll continue to follow this story throughout the hour and throughout the day, thank you.

Up next, the responsibility to help. Should the U.S. be stepping into this refugee crisis? I will be asking the State Department spokesman about what the U.S. is doing now, and get reactions for calls to the U.S. to do more. Stay with us.

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[13:51:34] KEILAR: We do want to get back to that growing refugee crisis we are seeing in Europe. Hundreds of refugees from Syria are now walking out of Hungary's capital city and trying to get all the way to Germany.

Joining me to talk about this crisis and the United States' role is State Department spokesman, Admiral John Kirby.

The U.K. says they will take in thousands more. How many refugees has the U.S. taken in and how many more are they prepared to take in?

ADM. KIRBY, STATE DEPARTMENT SPOKESMAN: We have taken in about 1,500 this year alone, and I think you will see a like number here before the end of the year is out here probably, so nearly, you know, double. We would expect to see the United States will take in even more going forward. One of the things we are also doing is contributing funds to this, and we are the largest donor, and we have another $25 million to deal with this specific issue inside Europe.

KEILAR: So you are saying 1,500, so far, and there could be that many more, and that is looking about 3,000. Explain to me, is that a cap or is that -- explain that, because we look at the numbers, Germany leading the charge at 800,000. Why is there a difference?

KIRBY: No -- no, I wouldn't describe it as a cap, and that's where we are right now. Going forward, I think it's fair to say that we are going to continue to look at this and the numbers could grow. I think it's possible those numbers could grow. We are glad to see the E.U., and you cited Germany and Ireland, is also going to take in refugees. It's important to remember that really the long-term answer here is political stability inside Syria so the people can go home to their own country and live peaceful lives and we understand that's a ways away but that's at the core of the issue here.

KEILAR: Stability inside Syria. We are also seeing people who are escaping other countries, North Africa, for instance, and Iraq as well, and a lot of them are fleeing from ISIS. Does this come down to the -- besides from a political solution in Syria, but just in the region in general, if you don't defeat ISIS, is this a side affect that is unpreventable?

KIRBY: I don't know if it's unpreventable, but you make a good point, it isn't just about the political situation in Syria. Many you cited, North Africa, are escaping violent extremism and terrorism, particularly, ISIL in Iraq and Syria are causing a flow of these refugees. And that's why it's so important for us to have a multi- facetted approach against ISIL. Not just military strikes but using all the lines of effort to try to get rid of this group and to restore good governance in there area where they've been able to dominate. It's going to take a long time. The flow of foreign fighters is a problem, particularly across the border with Turkey.

One of the things Secretary Kerry has done at the State Department is establish a working group to deal with the refugee issue, not just in Europe, although that's a core crux of their initial meeting recently, but also from other places around the world.

[13:55:20] KEILAR: John Kirby, thank you so much for talking to us about this very important story. We do appreciate it.

That is it for me. I will be back at 5:00 p.m. eastern in "The Situation Room." I'll see you then.

"Newsroom" with Ana Cabrera starts here after a quick break.

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