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Gitmo Detainees: Supreme Court Challenges; Terror Watch: Saudis on Edge

Aired November 10, 2003 - 19:00   ET

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ANDERSON COOPER, HOST (voice-over): Forty-eight hours after the bombing in Riyadh, is the holy city of Mecca the next target?

Two sniper suspects, two trials, now two conflicting defenses.

Are hundreds of terrorist suspects being held illegally? Now the Supreme Court will have its say.

Crossing the border for cheap stomach stapling surgery. Is it safe?

Prince Charles returns to Britain. How will he battle the rumors?

And our special series "Sleepless in America." Tonight, a sleep- deprived nation.

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ANNOUNCER: Live from the CNN Broadcast Center in New York, this is ANDERSON COOPER 360.

COOPER: Good evening. Welcome. Thanks for joining us on 360 on this Monday evening.

In just a moment, we'll take you live to Saudi Arabia, where thousands of Saudi troops are being deployed to protect the holy city of Mecca. The fear, that terror could strike again after this weekend's deadly blast in Riyadh.

First, however, a bold legal move with global consequences. The first legal challenge to the war on terror to be heard by the U.S. Supreme Court. The court will decide whether terrorist suspects at a Guantanamo Bay camp in Cuba are being held illegally. They have not been charged and have never seen a judge.

CNN's Bob Franken has more.

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BOB FRANKEN, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It is true that the justices will review for the first time the president's powers in the war on terrorism. But arguments in these cases will be limited to whether United States courts have jurisdiction over the detention of foreign nationals captured abroad and incarcerated at the Guantanamo Bay Naval Base, Cuba.

DONALD RUMSFELD, DEFENSE SECRETARY: I could characterize Guantanamo Bay, Cuba as the least worst place we could have selected.

FRANKEN: Lower courts have agreed with the Bush administration that the detainees held at this least worst place, Guantanamo Bay, are not subject to U.S. judicial review, since the naval base is on sovereign Cuba territory.

JOHN ASHCROFT, ATTORNEY GENERAL: They are not in the judicial system. These people are detained as a part of the waging of the war by the president of the United States.

FRANKEN: The two cases involve prisoners from Britain, Australia and Kuwait, among the 600-plus whose treatment has been hotly controversial around the world.

MICHAEL RATNER, DETAINEES ATTORNEY: These people have been in that jail almost two years, that prison, and they have essentially had the key thrown away. No right to an attorney, no right to counsel, no right to a court hearing.

FRANKEN (on camera): The justices will hear the administration argue that the treatment and isolation of the detainees are necessary for their interrogation.

Bob Franken, CNN, the Supreme Court.

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COOPER: A quick news note for you on the detainees in Cuba. At least 64 people have been released from Gitmo in the past 18 months. One of them, a Pakistani cleric, Mohamed Sagir (ph), is suing the U.S. government for $10.4 million, alleging illegal detention, torture and humiliation.

We go now to Saudi Arabia, where King Fahd has vowed to crack down on terrorists with an iron fist. Saturday's car bombing in Riyadh killed at least 17 people, and the Saudis are bracing for even more attacks.

Nic Robertson is one of the only Western journalists in Saudi Arabia. He joins us now on the videophone.

Nic, new warnings tonight of possible attacks, including some against Islam's holiest site, Mecca. How are Saudi authorities responding to the threat against Mecca?

NIC ROBERTSON, CNN SR. INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Simply stepping up security at the moment, improving as much as they can their intelligence assets there, sending 4,600 troops to the holy city. This is the holy month of Ramadan. Critical to the Saudi government, given that millions of Muslims go on pilgrimage to Mecca every year, critical that Saudi Arabia doesn't get the image of a country that's unstable. Critical, therefore, that there isn't a bomb or any other terror attack that goes off inside that holy city. So very important for the government. And they are doing everything they say that they can. They do, however, say that they recognize it is impossible to stop absolutely every effort by any terror group because they say many of the people lining up against them are willing to throw down their lives in suicide missions -- Anderson.

COOPER: Well, let's talk about some of the strategy of al Qaeda. This latest bombing, does it seem like their strategy may be changing?

ROBERTSON: It certainly gives that appearance at this time. The fact that Arabs have been targeted, other Muslims have been targeted this time, would give that appearance. But what we are being told here by government sources is they are getting an indication that the possibility that they believe that maybe al Qaeda made a mistake here, because they are talking to al Qaeda detainees who they have rounded up over recent weeks, and some of them that they've talked to believe that this compound was actually an American compound, not a compound that Arabs were living in.

They are Lebanese, Jordanians and others who were living in that particular compound. So there's a belief here possibly that al Qaeda made a mistake in targeting that particular compound -- Anderson.

COOPER: Nic Robertson joining us live from Riyadh. Nic, thanks very much.

On Friday, the news came that the U.S. Embassy in Riyadh was being shut down. The very next day, terrorists struck in the city. Now, U.S. intelligence officials are struggling to predict what might come next and what exactly the terrorists are after.

National security correspondent David Ensor reports.

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DAVID ENSOR, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): From U.S. officials an ominous warning. The weekend attack is "not the end." There is intelligence suggesting additional attacks could come in Saudi Arabia at any time.

RICHARD BOUCHER, STATE DEPARTMENT SPOKESMAN: That's a continuing threat.

ENSOR: U.S. officials warned Friday that attacks could come soon in Saudi Arabia. The ranking Democrat on Senate Intelligence noted that this was a time U.S. intelligence got it right.

SEN. JOHN "JAY" ROCKEFELLER (D), WEST VIRGINIA: There had been a lot of chatter about the probability of something of this sort.

ENSOR: Traveling in the region, Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage praised Saudi efforts since the al Qaeda attacks last May to crack down on the terrorist group. He was a fatalist about future attacks. RICHARD ARMITAGE, DEPUTY SECRETARY OF STATE: We, the defenders, have to be right 100 percent of the time, and the terrorists only have to be right once.

ENSOR: U.S. officials say this latest attack "looks and smells like al Qaeda," though that's not yet been proven. And they say the attacks appear designed to destabilize the Saudi monarchy. But with word the victims of the weekend bombing are mostly Arabs and include five children, some officials suggest the attack could backfire, turning many Arabs against al Qaeda.

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ENSOR: The heightened concern is not just about Saudi Arabia. The State Department has ordered the U.S. Embassy in Sudan closed this week. U.S. officials say there is credible information pointing to an al Qaeda threat in Khartum, too -- Anderson.

COOPER: All right. Ominous news. David Ensor, thanks very much.

In Iraq, air strikes are back. It may steam like an old tactic, but over the weekend, U.S. F-16 warplanes hit some new targets. Here's Pentagon correspondent Chris Plante.

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CHRIS PLANTE, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): When U.S. fighter jets bombed targets around Saddam Hussein's home town of Tikrit Friday and Saturday, it marked the first time in recent months that air strikes have been used against Iraqi insurgents. U.S. military officials told CNN that F-16 fighter jets were called in to provide close air support and dropped three 500-pound bombs.

The F-16s delivered precision-guided munitions on targets described by the U.S. as structures that were being used by anti- coalition forces. Officials say the weekend bombing runs northeast of Tikrit were in the Sunni triangle north of Baghdad, an area where the U.S. says opposition forces store weapons caches, set up ambushes and keep safe houses. President Bush, on a fund-raising stop in Little Rock Arkansas, said the U.S. will not back down.

GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: This collection of killers is trying to shake the will of America. and the civilized world. America will not be intimidated.

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PLANTE: Officials say that the aggressive new tactics and the air strikes are intended not only to go after the enemy, but also to send a message to would-be insurgents. If you are planning on coming after the coalition, you better think twice -- Anderson.

COOPER: All right. Chris Plante at the Pentagon, thank you.

Right now we are following a number of stories for you. Let's take a look "Cross Country."

Sassoon City, California: explosive delivery. Police say they have two suspects in a rash of pipe bombings. At least eight bombs -- take a look at that -- eight bombs, five of which exploded, have been planted in mailboxes in this month. No one has been hurt, luckily.

Brooklyn, New York: garbage surprise. Police say some school kids found a U.S. Army-issued missile launcher from Iraq in a Brooklyn garbage can. Investigators say an unidentified member of the U.S. military back from war apparently gave it a friend who then dumped it in the trash. The missile launcher did not work and no one was hurt.

Chesapeake, Virginia: not guilty. That's the plea today from this man, the sniper suspect Lee Boyd Malvo. Jury selection is now under way in his capital murder trial. Malvo's lawyers say they're going to argue he was basically brainwashed by his alleged accomplice, John Allen Muhammad. Muhammad's trial continues in nearby Virginia Beach. We'll have more on this coming up later.

Grove City, Pennsylvania: suspects caught. State police have found two teens suspected of killing their counselor at a private juvenile detention and treatment center. The boys escaped and were on the run for more than 12 hours.

Little Rock, Arkansas: campaigning for cash. President Bush visits Arkansas and South Carolina. And the first lady heads to Maine for fund-raisers. Now, in just one day, they are expected to rake in more than $2.4 million.

And that is a look at stories "Cross Country" tonight.

Coming up: Rosie O'Donnell's $100 million court battle. A guilty verdict could bury her financially. Find out where the case stands now.

Plus, fatigued, tired, run down? I don't know about you, but sometimes I am. Why are so many of us getting shortchanged on shut- eye? Tonight we begin our special weeklong series "Sleepless in America."

Also tonight: revived toddler. Find out how she was brought back to life almost an hour after being pronounced dead. It is an amazing story you're not going to want to miss.

But first, let's take a look "Inside the Box" at the top stories on tonight's network newscasts.

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COOPER: Well, Rosie O'Donnell was back in court today for what is likely to be one of the last installments of her ongoing, nail- biting legal program. O'Donnell and her former publisher have been duking it out in court over who is to blame for the "Rosie" magazine's demise.

CNN's Mary Snow has the latest on today's testimony. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

MARY SNOW, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): With her testimony on the stand over, Rosie O'Donnell showed up for the final stages of her trial against Gruner + Jahr both relieved, she said, and eager.

ROSIE O'DONNELL, FMR. TALK SHOW HOST: The nerves are gone. As soon as I was able to tell my story, I am quite happy with the progress of the trial. And I am looking forward to Judge Gammerman's (ph) decision.

SNOW: While much of the trial has focused on name calling, the last stage turned to the money. O'Donnell's lawyers are claiming that books were cooked to keep O'Donnell at the magazine. They zeroed in on a clause in the joint agreement that would have allowed either party to walk away from their contract if they lost more than $4.2 million by June of 2002.

In an email to G + J's CEO in Germany, the U.S. chief financial officer wrote: "The management team of G + J USA is recommending to you that we manage the financials, such that we don't fall below the required threshold point so that we can continue to publish 'Rosie.'" "We are asking for your approval to this strategy."

G + J's Germany CEO testified on videotape that he didn't recall ever getting the e-mail, but that the company does not manage books or manipulate numbers. O'Donnell's lawyers claim that because the magazine was losing money, G + J was making editorial changes in violation of O'Donnell's contract to boost sales.

O'DONNELL: Well, I'm sad to say that the case is not over today. Our law team fully expected that we would be done today. But unfortunately the opposing side still has more to do.

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SNOW: And now the trial resumes on Wednesday, when both sides are expected to rest their case. And then this case will go to the judge. Just how long that timetable for a decision is unclear, but lawyers say it could take several weeks -- Anderson.

COOPER: All right. Mary Snow, thanks for the update.

While we are still crunching some numbers, this fast fact for you: if publisher G + J wins this lawsuit, Rosie O'Donnell could feel some real financial pain. The publisher is seeking $100 million from O'Donnell, meaning she could lose more than 85 percent of her estimated net worth of $115 million. We're actually going to have a lot more of the details on the Rosie O'Donnell legal battle in a few minutes, when we talk with "The New York Times" reporter covering the case, David Carr.

We're following a number of international stories as well tonight. Let's check the "UpLink."

Washington: fence mending. For the first time since the Vietnam War ended in 1975, that country's defense minister meets with his U.S. counterpart in Washington. Fan Van Trau (ph) had lunch with Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld at the Pentagon today after meeting with Secretary of State Colin Powell.

Khali (ph), Colombia: American hostage freed. A U.S. citizen is back with his family after being kidnapped last weekend by right wing paramilitaries. Colombian troops burst into a house last night, rescued the man and made three arrests. Very lucky indeed.

Guatemala: last hoorah. A former Guatemala City mayor leads in the race for president with former dictator, Efrain Rios Montt, a distant third. Now, without the presidency, Rios Montt will lose his immunity to prosecution for human rights violations when his term in Congress ends in January. Human rights groups accuse him -- Rios Montts, that is -- of carrying out massacres during Guatemala's civil war that ended in 1996.

Manila, Philippines: Ms. Afghanistan. An Afghan woman, her name is Vita Samadzi (ph), is the first winner of the beauty for a cause prize in the Miss Earth Pageant. She didn't win the title of Miss Earth. Miss Honduras did that.

What's more, Ms. Afghanistan could actually face prosecution when she gets home. She was wearing a bikini in the beauty contest.

And that is a look at tonight's "UpLink."

Tonight, we kick off a special series for you, "Sleepless in America." All week long, we're going to look at the latest in research and innovations to help a nation of groggy heads get a better night's sleep.

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COOPER (voice-over): If you didn't get enough sleep last night, well, you're not alone.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I just kept waking up in intervals throughout the night.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Five.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Six.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I get about five and a half to six hours of sleep.

COOPER: For nearly one in two Americans, a good night's sleep is merely a pipe dream. This week, in our series "Sleepless in America," we'll attempt to figure out why something that should come so naturally can for so many of us be so difficult.

Coming up, we'll look at the widespread problem of sleep deprivation and why for many the quest for rest begins at the local pharmacy. And in the days ahead, could our kids be on to something? We'll look at the restorative power of napping. We'll also go to the military, where cutting edge research could soon make sleeping pills obsolete. We'll also investigate what happens when sleep is anything but peaceful. We'll take a close look at the frightening world of sleep disorders.

And finally, can a night at a sleep clinic provide real solutions? I'll find out first hand.

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COOPER: Well, just how sleep deprived are we? Coming up tonight in our special series, we'll look at what you can do to fight exhaustion. We'll talk with someone who gets people to sleep for a living.

Also, celibacy in the priesthood. The call for the reform of a century's old tradition.

And a little later, crossing the border to get a deal on stomach stapling surgery? Does that sound like a good idea? You'd actually be risking your life just to save a little cash?

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COOPER: We are back now with more of our weeklong series, "Sleepless In America." Tonight, a nation deprived. As sleepy as you may feel, you can take some comfort at least in knowing that you are not alone.

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COOPER (voice-over): Ask anyone, and chances are they'll tell you they are not getting enough sleep.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sleep deprived? Sometimes yes. Five days a week, yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Definitely I'm sleep deprived.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm tired during the day. That's the problem.

COOPER (voice-over): In fact, 43 percent of all Americans consider themselves moderately to severely sleep deprived. Which might begin to explain why in the past year the National Sleep Foundation says we've spent nearly $1.5 billion on prescription sleep drugs like Ambian (ph). And sleeplessness is costly in money and lives. The group says more than 100,000 accidents a year are caused by drivers asleep at the wheel.

So what is it about our culture that makes us lose so much sleep? Job-related stress might have something to do with it, if you ask, say, Tony Soprano. Then throw in fears of the economy, terrorism, troubles at home, all key stressers keeping us tossing and turning.

For young Americans, sleep doesn't come any easier. In fact, between homework, extracurricular activities and the ubiquitous Internet, teens are sleeping less than ever. An average of only six hours a night.

So is there a solution to this chronic sleep depravity? Pharmaceutical companies certainly hope so. They are already racing to find the next Ambian (ph).

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COOPER: Well, why aren't we sleeping and what's the safest way to get the shut-eye we need? We're joined now by Dr. Conrad Iber. He's the president of the American Academy of Sleep Medicine.

Doctor, thanks for being with us. Before we talk about prescription medication, what can people at home do to help themselves sleep at night?

DR. CONRAD IBER, PRESIDENT, AMERICAN ACADEMY OF SLEEP MEDICINE: Well, I think the first thing is regularity. People need to establish for the clock and the brain that sets our sleep time, regular sleep time to go to sleep, regular habits.

A good parameter for not getting enough sleep on Saturday morning is sleeping in. If you wake up on a weekday and you are still sleepy and want to go back to sleep, or off on Saturday you sleep another 30 or 40 minutes, then you are probably chronically sleep deprived.

COOPER: Well, that's -- I mean, I can sleep 18 hours and I'm still sleepy. But maybe that's another larger issue. You also recommend not having a clock visible?

IBER: Yes. If you watch a clock, it often makes you more vigilant, more alert. And certainly, stimuli in the bedroom, television, radio, often changes in light from the television or noise from the radio, can keep you awake. There are certain habits that are important to have to improve what's called the hygiene of sleep.

One is a regular sleep time. The other is going to bed when you are sleepy. Thirdly, not to have excess noise. Of course, that might even be a bed partner who snores in the bedroom. And to keep this regular schedule throughout the week and weekend.

There's certain things obviously that interfere with sleep. Caffeine, a drug that's very, very commonly used. Billions of dollars are spent on caffeine, and that drug...

COOPER: Some people are basically just over-caffeinated. But I guess increasingly, people kind of turn to prescription pills. And, I mean, there are some very good ones out there. But are people kind of over-medicating themselves on this stuff?

IBER: Well, there are some problems. But remember, not all people use prescription drugs. For instance, alcohol is used almost as frequently as prescription drugs, and alcohol actually causes sleep disruption. So alcohol is a bad drug, if you will. Over-the-counter medicines are often used more than prescriptions. But prescriptions are an issue. Prescriptions are related to some of the excess risk of falling, for instance, in the elderly, who often use prescriptions perhaps to an excessive degree. Prescriptions should be used for a short period of time, perhaps weeks to manage difficult periods with insomnia.

COOPER: And I guess with some people, are prescriptions being used to kind of mask just bad sleeping habits?

IBER: Or disease. For instance, prescriptions can be used to mask people who are having sleeplessness due to sleep apnea or what's called the restless leg syndrome, other diseases that cause sleeplessness during the night. But more often prescriptions are used for perhaps too long a period of time to be safely used.

As I mentioned, one of the complications is excess falling in the elderly. Covering up diseases is another complication, particularly people who have respiratory disease.

COOPER: Right. And the key, I guess, is you just have to communicate with your doctor and you have to figure out what's going to work best for you.

Doctor Conrad Iber, appreciate you joining us. Thanks very much.

IBER: Thank you.

COOPER: Our series "Sleepless in America' continues all week. Tomorrow, we'll look at napping. It's not just for kids anymore. At least it shouldn't be, according to some. What cat naps might do for you.

Also, Wednesday, the innovations by the military that could one day make sleeping pills a thing of the past. They're doing some fascinating research.

Thursday, when sleep is one long nightmare. We'll go inside the world of sleep disorders.

And on Friday, a night at a sleep clinic. Could it work for you? I'll let you know if it worked for me. I'm actually going to spend the night at a sleep clinic.

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COOPER (voice-over): A toddler pronounced dead is brought back to life.

Rosie's publishers take the stand.

And stomach stapling surgery south of the border.

We'll be right back.

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COOPER: Time for our top stories. Let's check "The Reset."

Washington, D.C. Court review. The Supreme Court has agreed to hear arguments whether terror suspects held at the Guantanamo Bay Naval Base can contest their detention in U.S. courts. The Bush administration claims the detainees can be held indefinitely without being charged or tried.

Washington, D.C. on alert. A brief alert was declared at the White House after a small plane strayed into restricted air space over Washington. The plane was escorted to an airport in North Carolina, where authorities concluded that the pilot posed no threat.

Washington, D.C. AOL -- AWOL no longer. The Air National Guard says it no longer considers Simon Holcombe (ph) absent without leave and it will allow her to stay in the United States while she resolves family issues. Holcombe and her partner were both serving in Iraq, when her husband's ex-wife sued custody of their seven kids. Holcombe could have lost custody if she had returned to Iraq. Simone (ph) I believe is her first name.

Baltimore, Maryland. Visionary study. New research suggests more than 300,000 older Americans could save their eyesight by taking Vitamin C, E, betacaritine and zinc or zinc oxide. Those supplements have been shown to prevent mascular degeneration, a leading cause of blindness among the elderly.

Washington, D.C. Numbers game. The FCC has approved a rule allowing cell phone users who switch carriers to keep using the same phone number. In some cases, they'll also be able to switch their home phone numbers to cell phones.

And that is a look at our "Reset."

And this is just in to CNN. A warning from the Homeland Security Department. The department warns state and local law enforcement to keep a close eye on their uniforms. This after Saturday's car bombing at Saudi Arabia. Now sources have said that terrorists were wearing Saudi security uniforms, which helped them penetrate security. Officials have said the bombing appears to be the work of al Qaeda and that the use of the uniforms was a new method of operations. So this is a warning going out here in the U.S.

An alert police detective is getting credit for saving a California toddler who had been pronounced dead from drowning. And late this afternoon, good news about her recovery.

Miguel Marquez has the amazing story.

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MIGUEL MARQUEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It is a near- drowning and a near death that may also be a near miracle.

BRIAN OXMAN, FAMILY FRIEND: She recognizes her mom and her dad, and she is grabbing at their hands and hugging them.

MARQUEZ: Last Friday, 10-month-old Mikhaila Jesperson (ph) fell into her family's pool. How long she was in the 52-degree water is unknown. At 9:06 a.m., the 911 call went out.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: 911, what is the your emergency?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My baby fell in the pool and she's drowneded. (ph)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is she breathing?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, she's not.

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MARQUEZ: Two minutes later, police arrived and started CPR.

STEVE RUBIN, FULLERTON POLICE DEPT.: We didn't detect a pulse or any breathing. The baby was very cold to the touch.

MARQUEZ: The toddler was rushed to Anaheim Memorial Medical Center. At 10:06 a.m., police say, a doctor there pronounced her dead.

DET. MICHAEL KENDRICK, FULLERTON POLICE DEPT.: This child could have been put in a body bag, zipped up and transported to the coroner's office and put in a fridge.

MARQUEZ: The coroner was on the way and Michael Kendrick, the police photograph, was taking pictures for evidence, when the little corpse began to twitch, then began to breathe.

KENDRICK: She had been pronounced dead about 45 minutes, and I just couldn't believe. I was shocked that, you know, this child was actually breathing.

MARQUEZ (on camera): Anaheim Memorial Medical Center, the hospital where Mikhaila Jesperson was originally taken, says, because of federal law, it can say nothing about the case.

Jesperson has since been transferred to Children's Hospital of Orange County.

(voice-over): Doctors there say it is still too early to know if Mikhaila suffer longterm damage.

Miguel Marquez, CNN, Los Angeles.

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COOPER: Just a remarkable story.

And two of the rescuers who helped save the toddler will be guests next hour on "PAULA ZAHN NOW."

Now, "Justice Served." In Chesapeake, Virginia, jury selection begins in the trial for the second sniper suspect, Lee Boyd Malvo.

Plus, waiting for a verdict. Jurors just ended a third day of deliberations in the Robert Durst murder trial.

Here to talk about both high profile cases, Court TV's Lisa Bloom.

Lisa, thanks for being with us.

LISA BLOOM, COURT TV: Hi, Anderson.

COOPER: Let's talk about this Malvo trial. He has pleaded not guilty. Clearly, it seems, though, they are going to be arguing some sort of brain washing on the part of Muhammad to Malvo.

BLOOM: Malvo, it's going to be all about not guilty by reason of insanity. And studies show that those who plead insanity have higher rates of conviction than those who don't because you have to agree to the underlying crime. You have to concede that you committed the crime. Juries don't want to let crazed lunatics ought on the streets. That's the bottom line.

I think it's a very risky defense for this 17-year-old, who's now 18. But 17 at the time.

COOPER: Is there anything we've seen thus far in Muhammad's trial that may give a hint of how Malvo's trial is going to go?

BLOOM: Well, it's going to be about who was the mastermind. Malvo says, as you said, that Muhammad was the mastermind, that he brainwashed him, that he controlled him, that he planted ideas in his mind.

But there's a little bit of a stretch from that to the insanity defense. After all, for the insanity defense, Malvo has to say that he was unable to control his actions at all, not just that he was influenced by the older man.

COOPER: Interesting. It's definitely going to be interesting to see.

Let's talk about this Robert Durst trial. We thought it would be a late night of deliberation. They have now been -- the jury has been told to go home. But they are returning tomorrow on a holiday. The judge, at one point, I guess, had to order pizza. Maybe it -- there was -- it seems, at least, like there is momentum towards some sort of a verdict.

BLOOM: Well, the jury is certainly taking their deliberations seriously. They're staying late, they're deliberating tomorrow, on a court holiday.

COOPER: Are you surprised how long they have been deliberating? BLOOM: I am surprised. I mean, after all, Durst admits that he killed and chopped up his neighbor and put his body in garbage bags in Galveston Bay. You'd think...

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BLOOM: Yes, I say it like that. But, you know -- and -- and keeping in mind, this is Texas, a very law and order state.

Now, these long deliberations could mean a couple of things. One is that the jury is simply going very methodically and carefully through the evidence, like they did in the Westerfield case last summer, ultimately coming back with a conviction. Or one or two people are actually holding out, believing Durst's story that this was a killing in self-defense.

COOPER: Yes, and what a story it is. I mean, with the cross- dressing and the mute woman. The whole thing is just sort of unbelievable. It's like a bad made-for-TV Lifetime movie.

BLOOM: Yes.

COOPER: Did he do himself any favors by testifying?

BLOOM: I don't think so, Anderson.

This is a man who has an incredible memory for a lot of details. But when it comes down to the killing that he admits he did of his neighbor, he simply doesn't recall details. He doesn't remember chopping up the body, putting him in a bag. He doesn't even remember who pulled the trigger, whether it was the neighbor or whether he pulled the trigger himself. I don't think he helped himself at all. He didn't do well on cross-examination.

COOPER: All right. Lisa Bloom, thanks very much.

BLOOM: Thanks.

Well, America's Catholic bishops are meeting in Washington this week. Not -- it's what's not on the agenda that is getting most of the attention. That's a campaign for optional celibacy. Excuse me.

CNN's Jeff Flock reports.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: St. Louis, Missouri; Silver Spring, Maryland; Oakland, California.

JEFF FLOCK, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Thousands of letters from parishioners to the Catholic bishops this week asking that priests be allowed to marry.

SR. CHRISTINE SCHENK, FUTURE CHURCH: It's not just some radical fringe element. This is bedrock Catholics who know something needs to happen. BOB MOTYCKA, FORMER PRIEST: I said, you know, I'd like to be a married priest. And they said, Well, it's time for a new job.

FLOCK: Bob Motycka, nearly 20 years a priest, before quitting to take a wife, is part of the trend -- 58,000 priests in 1965, 43,000 now. About 500 parishes without a priest then, more than 3,000 now.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There will be a priest here only half-time.

FLOCK (on camera): Really? Even for as large of a church as this?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right.

FLOCK (voice-over): At the 3, 000-Family St. Mathias in Milwaukee, Father Joseph Oftemeier (ph) co-wrote this letter to the bishops, saying if priests could marry, more would serve.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: To me, it's almost duh.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't think that's logical and I would disagree with that.

FLOCK: Milwaukee Archbishop Timothy Dolan says Protestant denominations with married clergy also have shortages. Priests, he says, like this one, Father Michael McGovern, are married to God, as they should be.

FR. MICHAEL MCGOVERN, ST. JULIANA, CHICAGO: It's a freedom to be wherever God wants me to be in a particular situation without looking at my watch or my calendar to think about, I've also got my wife and my kids that I owe a responsibility to.

FLOCK: What to do about the lack of priests is on the Conference of Bishop's agenda this week. Priest celibacy is not.

I'm Jeff Flock, CNN, in Milwaukee.

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COOPER: We're going to have more on the bitter legal fight starring Rosie O'Donnell straight ahead. Just what's at stake for the former talk show host? We'll look at her possible fate coming up.

Also, cutting the fat at a cheaper price. But is it worth the risk?

Also, a little bit later on, why London loves America's favorite tabloid talk king, Jerry Springer, debuting in a very unlikely venue.

Stay with us.

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COOPER: CNN.com/360. That's where you can send e-mail, instant feedback any time. A little later, earlier we brought you up to date on the Rosie O'Donnell suit. The legal battle between O'Donnell and the publisher of her now defunct magazine is now entering its final stages. It has been a colorful case. One followed closely by "New York Times" reporter David Carr. He joins us now. David, thanks for being with us.

You know, all the sort of theatrics outside the courtroom aside, it really boils down to money and there was some testimony today about possible cooking of books. What is it really going to boil down to?

DAVID CARR, "NEW YORK TIMES": It was fun with the county (ph) inside the courtroom. And boy, we were all running if are the coffee pot at lunch. We were waist deep in numbers, many of which were designed to demonstrate that in an effort to keep Rosie O'Donnell locked up in a partnership she wanted to get out of, Gruner and Jahr fudged the numbers and made it...

COOPER: Because they both basically had this escape clause that said if anyone loses more than $4.2 million they can back out.

CARR: Her lawyers argue that precisely the time she wanted to run away from this partnership they close the side door and in a sense breached their fiduciary duty to Rosie O'Donnell, her partner -- their partner.

COOPER: How did the german head of Gruner and Jahr do. I guess they produced this e-mail which seems to be kind of a smoking gun, at least, from an outside perspective.

CARR: I would say it was more like a smoking Howitzer. It was a pretty damning document. The CFO who wrote it had the misfortune of being his second day on the job when he wrote it. And he was up there trying to explain something that looked like prima facia evidence that they worked the numbers to keep Rosie locked into the partnership.

COOPER: Now, a lot of people, conventional wisdom is that the judge could say -- I mean, there's going to be 1 more day of testimony judge could take weeks to come up with some sort of verdict, but you think it could actually happen on Wednesday.

CARR: I don't know about that, Anderson. It was funny, because at the end of the day, and it was a long, tough day for all of us, including the defendant Rosie O'Donnell. She said to the judge, "should I come back on Wednesday, because tomorrow is a break day." He said, "I'm going to have some interesting things to stay. I think, you might want to come by."

So, I don't know if he was just being cute or if that was an indication that maybe he'll throw a lightning bolt right there on the spot and settle the whole dang thing.

COOPER: A lot of money at stake for both sides. Do you think anyone is going to get the money they're talking about?

CARR: I doubt he's going to hand out more than 2 nickels to anybody. He doesn't seem compelled by the case. He doesn't think the asset in question was worth very much, and he doesn't seem very impressed by the fight that's before him. He clearly would like to get this out of his courtroom.

COOPER: All right, David Carr from the "New York Times," thanks very much.

CARR: Oh, Pleasure, Anderson.

COOPER: Time to check on pop culture news on "The Current." The "Matrix: Revolutions" opened with record business. The trilogy's finale took in $204 million dollars in its global bow. Critics have hailed it as by far the best Matrix movie released so far in the second half of this year.

"CROSSFIRE" co-host, Tucker Carlson, is developing a new weekly series for PBS. The bow-tied conservative is expected to bring PBS a new audience in return for a stylish PBS tote bag. So that's a good exchange

"USA Today" reports that "Shrek 2" will open next May with some new members in the cast. Antonio Banderas will be playing Pussin Boots. Can't wait to see whose playing Boots

Madonna's new children's book is out today. Her long time fans may be disappointed to lean that "Mr. Peabody's Apples" is in fact not a double entendre. Sorry about that.

Well, in the fight against fat, more and more people are going under the knife for gastric bypass surgery. We talked about that last week. The risks are substantial. Just last week we told you a Boston Hospital stopped offering a type of the surgery after a patient died when doctors say a staple gun misfired. Another concern for patients are the monetary concern. But as Jason Bellini reports, you can overcome that by heading to the border.

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JASON BELLINI, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Melanie Fisher, minutes before going under.

MELANIE FISHER, SURGERY PATIENT: Bye, America.

BELLINI: She's coming to Mexico for her surgery. Melanie made this calculation.

FISHER: I will die if I don't have the surgery done.

BELLINI: Back home in Iowa, her insurance company, she says, disagreed. She couldn't prove she was morbidly obese enough for them to pay for the operation.

FISHER: My grandparents both died of diabetes, my mother's diabetic, all my aunts are diabetics. There's a loss of limbs and blindness.

BELLINI: She says, in the U.S. there was no way to afford an operation that in total costs upwards of $30,000. So the Fishers decided to turn her surgery into a Mexico familiarly adventure. FISHER: Vacation surgery, great!

We budgeted everything in and it's under $10,000 for three people to go to Mexico to have it done.

BELLINI (on camera): Melanie tells me before today she never allowed anyone to take her picture. She was too embarrassed by the way she looks.

(voice-over): She allowed me to come along, because she thought her story might give others like her hope. But doctors who do weight loss surgery in the U.S. say Melanie is taking a serious risk. When they get surgery in the U.S...

DR. RICHARD LAZZARO, SURGEON: They have been evaluated by cardiologists, pulmonary specialists, psychologist specialists, nutritionists.

BELLINI: Melanie gets her doctor's consultation the day before surgery.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Melanie, we could have any complications, any.

BELLINI: Melanie's surgery, according to Igary (ph) was perfectly routine.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So far, so good.

BELLINI: But experts say 1 in 7 patients do have postoperative complications.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Complications can arise after surgery. Having your specialist thousands of miles away is not in the best interest of a patient.

BELLINI: Melanie, however, feels she's made it through the riskiest part of her gamble. Jason Bellini, CNN, Mexico.

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COOPER: Well, Coming up next on 360, wait until you hear the story we can't tell you about Prince Charles. It's the wildest story you won't hear from us tonight.

Also tonight, Jerry Springer, the opera. Coming up.

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COOPER: For today's "Fresh Print," we wanted to look at all the fresh print about the story no one is talking about. That's right, I'm referring -- or not referring, as the case may be -- to the mystery of the Prince Charles story that wasn't.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) COOPER (voice-over): Consider the latest headlines out of the U.K. Camilla fury. My Charles would never do that. Queen, I support Charles. William fears political to ruin his father.

What are they all talking about? Sorry, they can't tell you, and neither can we. Not only is there a gag order keeping British papers from spilling the details, those zany journalistic standards of ours won't even permit us here at CNN to tell you everything.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The prince hasn't come out and denied these allegations, which we can't report.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Legal nightmare. If I say the wrong thing, I'm going to get hauled off to the bloody tower and that will be the end of me.

COOPER: Or even see some of their more scandalous headlines.

Why? Because the claim no one is talking about, outside Charles saying he didn't do the thing no one can say he did, came from only one paper, quoting only one source even they called hardly reliable.

The royals agree, saying the source has suffered from post- traumatic stress and alcoholism, and that police found his past claims to be unsubstantiated.

In other words, no one can tell you what the source says Prince Charles did, but Prince Charles wants you to know he definitely didn't do it.

At this point you may be tempted to ask, is this any way to report a news story? Well, I really couldn't say.

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Well, today on "The Jerry Springer Show," and I quote from the official Jerry Web site, quote, "Juan had sex with his fiancee's transsexual uncle and he is here to plead forgiveness from her." End quote.

Now, if you can believe it, this isn't the most outlandish Jerry show out there today. That title goes to "Jerry Springer: The Opera," beginning a campy, trash-filled run in London's West End. Here's CNN's Robyn Curnow.

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ROBYN CURNOW, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): A chorus of dancing Ku Klux Klanners and diaper-wearing divas. And that's just the first act of "Jerry Springer: The Opera."

As for the Springer character, well, in true operatic style, he meets a messy end.

JERRY SPRINGER, TALK SHOW HOST: I understand I go to hell. So.

CURNOW: To hell and back on stage, a musical interpretation of Springer's brash TV talk show.

SPRINGER: Opera really is our show put to music, because our show has all the traditional themes of opera, of classic opera. It has the chaos, the mock tragedy, the farce, gender misidentification.

CURNOW: The so-called shock opera that's been billed at triumph, tragedy and trailer trash.

SPRINGER: My mother would have been so proud. Gerald, you got culture, you're in opera.

CURNOW: Critics say it's high culture meets low culture, an odd theatrical mix that seemed great for the box office. More than $3 million in tickets already sold for this run, against all expectations.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It was developed in a little fringe venue. We had a lot of work to do, and we didn't expect it to have much of a life beyond a small run in a little fringe venue.

CURNOW: If the reviews mean anything, "Jerry Springer: The Opera" should have a long run.

Next stop, Broadway?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Thank you, Shantel (ph).

CURNOW: Robyn Curnow, CNN, London.

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COOPER: But has Jerry Springer seen it? That's the question.

So, is it true McDonald's wants to rewrite the dictionary? Tonight, at least we're getting the final word.

Plus, tomorrow, the raw power of nap time. Maybe those kids in kindergarten are actually on to something.

But first, today's buzz -- should the Gitmo detainees have access to family and lawyers? What do you think? Vote now, at cnn.com/360. Results, when we come back.

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COOPER: Time now for the buzz. We asked you, should the Gitmo detainees have access to family lawyers? Sixty-three percent of you said yes, 37 percent voted no. This is not a scientific poll, just your buzz.

Tonight, taking McJobs to "The Nth Degree." McDonald's is complaining to Merriam Webster about a word appearing in the newest edition of its collegiate dictionary. The word is McJob, which Merriam Webster defines as, quote, "A job, usually in the retail or services sector, that is low-paying, often temporary and offers minimal or no benefits or opportunity for promotion." McDonald's says the definition is inaccurate, although they stopped short of calling it a whopper. But is McDonald's really in a position to start dictating language usage to the rest of us? I mean, if you ask me, first I'd like to know exactly what province their french fries come from, and why a significant portion of happy meals look only mildly sanguine at best.

I mean, what's next? If we let corporations define what words mean, imagine it -- KFC, adjective, healthy, life extending. Example, Mabel observed a strict KFC diet. White Castle, noun, a majestic palace populated by perforated white meat. Olestra, noun, anything yummy that is not leaky or explosive.

No, my friends, for the sake of George Orwell and Ray Crock, we have got to draw the linguistic line. Handing over linguistic control to just any old clown is not only un-American, frankly it's a prospect that makes me grimace. See.

All right, that wraps up our program tonight. Coming up next, "PAULA ZAHN NOW."

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ANDERSON COOPER, HOST (voice-over): Forty-eight hours after the bombing in Riyadh, is the holy city of Mecca the next target?

Two sniper suspects, two trials, now two conflicting defenses.

Are hundreds of terrorist suspects being held illegally? Now the Supreme Court will have its say.

Crossing the border for cheap stomach stapling surgery. Is it safe?

Prince Charles returns to Britain. How will he battle the rumors?

And our special series "Sleepless in America." Tonight, a sleep- deprived nation.

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ANNOUNCER: Live from the CNN Broadcast Center in New York, this is ANDERSON COOPER 360.

COOPER: Good evening. Welcome. Thanks for joining us on 360 on this Monday evening.

In just a moment, we'll take you live to Saudi Arabia, where thousands of Saudi troops are being deployed to protect the holy city of Mecca. The fear, that terror could strike again after this weekend's deadly blast in Riyadh.

First, however, a bold legal move with global consequences. The first legal challenge to the war on terror to be heard by the U.S. Supreme Court. The court will decide whether terrorist suspects at a Guantanamo Bay camp in Cuba are being held illegally. They have not been charged and have never seen a judge.

CNN's Bob Franken has more.

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BOB FRANKEN, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It is true that the justices will review for the first time the president's powers in the war on terrorism. But arguments in these cases will be limited to whether United States courts have jurisdiction over the detention of foreign nationals captured abroad and incarcerated at the Guantanamo Bay Naval Base, Cuba.

DONALD RUMSFELD, DEFENSE SECRETARY: I could characterize Guantanamo Bay, Cuba as the least worst place we could have selected.

FRANKEN: Lower courts have agreed with the Bush administration that the detainees held at this least worst place, Guantanamo Bay, are not subject to U.S. judicial review, since the naval base is on sovereign Cuba territory.

JOHN ASHCROFT, ATTORNEY GENERAL: They are not in the judicial system. These people are detained as a part of the waging of the war by the president of the United States.

FRANKEN: The two cases involve prisoners from Britain, Australia and Kuwait, among the 600-plus whose treatment has been hotly controversial around the world.

MICHAEL RATNER, DETAINEES ATTORNEY: These people have been in that jail almost two years, that prison, and they have essentially had the key thrown away. No right to an attorney, no right to counsel, no right to a court hearing.

FRANKEN (on camera): The justices will hear the administration argue that the treatment and isolation of the detainees are necessary for their interrogation.

Bob Franken, CNN, the Supreme Court.

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COOPER: A quick news note for you on the detainees in Cuba. At least 64 people have been released from Gitmo in the past 18 months. One of them, a Pakistani cleric, Mohamed Sagir (ph), is suing the U.S. government for $10.4 million, alleging illegal detention, torture and humiliation.

We go now to Saudi Arabia, where King Fahd has vowed to crack down on terrorists with an iron fist. Saturday's car bombing in Riyadh killed at least 17 people, and the Saudis are bracing for even more attacks.

Nic Robertson is one of the only Western journalists in Saudi Arabia. He joins us now on the videophone.

Nic, new warnings tonight of possible attacks, including some against Islam's holiest site, Mecca. How are Saudi authorities responding to the threat against Mecca?

NIC ROBERTSON, CNN SR. INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Simply stepping up security at the moment, improving as much as they can their intelligence assets there, sending 4,600 troops to the holy city. This is the holy month of Ramadan. Critical to the Saudi government, given that millions of Muslims go on pilgrimage to Mecca every year, critical that Saudi Arabia doesn't get the image of a country that's unstable. Critical, therefore, that there isn't a bomb or any other terror attack that goes off inside that holy city. So very important for the government. And they are doing everything they say that they can. They do, however, say that they recognize it is impossible to stop absolutely every effort by any terror group because they say many of the people lining up against them are willing to throw down their lives in suicide missions -- Anderson.

COOPER: Well, let's talk about some of the strategy of al Qaeda. This latest bombing, does it seem like their strategy may be changing?

ROBERTSON: It certainly gives that appearance at this time. The fact that Arabs have been targeted, other Muslims have been targeted this time, would give that appearance. But what we are being told here by government sources is they are getting an indication that the possibility that they believe that maybe al Qaeda made a mistake here, because they are talking to al Qaeda detainees who they have rounded up over recent weeks, and some of them that they've talked to believe that this compound was actually an American compound, not a compound that Arabs were living in.

They are Lebanese, Jordanians and others who were living in that particular compound. So there's a belief here possibly that al Qaeda made a mistake in targeting that particular compound -- Anderson.

COOPER: Nic Robertson joining us live from Riyadh. Nic, thanks very much.

On Friday, the news came that the U.S. Embassy in Riyadh was being shut down. The very next day, terrorists struck in the city. Now, U.S. intelligence officials are struggling to predict what might come next and what exactly the terrorists are after.

National security correspondent David Ensor reports.

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DAVID ENSOR, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): From U.S. officials an ominous warning. The weekend attack is "not the end." There is intelligence suggesting additional attacks could come in Saudi Arabia at any time.

RICHARD BOUCHER, STATE DEPARTMENT SPOKESMAN: That's a continuing threat.

ENSOR: U.S. officials warned Friday that attacks could come soon in Saudi Arabia. The ranking Democrat on Senate Intelligence noted that this was a time U.S. intelligence got it right.

SEN. JOHN "JAY" ROCKEFELLER (D), WEST VIRGINIA: There had been a lot of chatter about the probability of something of this sort.

ENSOR: Traveling in the region, Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage praised Saudi efforts since the al Qaeda attacks last May to crack down on the terrorist group. He was a fatalist about future attacks. RICHARD ARMITAGE, DEPUTY SECRETARY OF STATE: We, the defenders, have to be right 100 percent of the time, and the terrorists only have to be right once.

ENSOR: U.S. officials say this latest attack "looks and smells like al Qaeda," though that's not yet been proven. And they say the attacks appear designed to destabilize the Saudi monarchy. But with word the victims of the weekend bombing are mostly Arabs and include five children, some officials suggest the attack could backfire, turning many Arabs against al Qaeda.

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ENSOR: The heightened concern is not just about Saudi Arabia. The State Department has ordered the U.S. Embassy in Sudan closed this week. U.S. officials say there is credible information pointing to an al Qaeda threat in Khartum, too -- Anderson.

COOPER: All right. Ominous news. David Ensor, thanks very much.

In Iraq, air strikes are back. It may steam like an old tactic, but over the weekend, U.S. F-16 warplanes hit some new targets. Here's Pentagon correspondent Chris Plante.

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CHRIS PLANTE, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): When U.S. fighter jets bombed targets around Saddam Hussein's home town of Tikrit Friday and Saturday, it marked the first time in recent months that air strikes have been used against Iraqi insurgents. U.S. military officials told CNN that F-16 fighter jets were called in to provide close air support and dropped three 500-pound bombs.

The F-16s delivered precision-guided munitions on targets described by the U.S. as structures that were being used by anti- coalition forces. Officials say the weekend bombing runs northeast of Tikrit were in the Sunni triangle north of Baghdad, an area where the U.S. says opposition forces store weapons caches, set up ambushes and keep safe houses. President Bush, on a fund-raising stop in Little Rock Arkansas, said the U.S. will not back down.

GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: This collection of killers is trying to shake the will of America. and the civilized world. America will not be intimidated.

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PLANTE: Officials say that the aggressive new tactics and the air strikes are intended not only to go after the enemy, but also to send a message to would-be insurgents. If you are planning on coming after the coalition, you better think twice -- Anderson.

COOPER: All right. Chris Plante at the Pentagon, thank you.

Right now we are following a number of stories for you. Let's take a look "Cross Country."

Sassoon City, California: explosive delivery. Police say they have two suspects in a rash of pipe bombings. At least eight bombs -- take a look at that -- eight bombs, five of which exploded, have been planted in mailboxes in this month. No one has been hurt, luckily.

Brooklyn, New York: garbage surprise. Police say some school kids found a U.S. Army-issued missile launcher from Iraq in a Brooklyn garbage can. Investigators say an unidentified member of the U.S. military back from war apparently gave it a friend who then dumped it in the trash. The missile launcher did not work and no one was hurt.

Chesapeake, Virginia: not guilty. That's the plea today from this man, the sniper suspect Lee Boyd Malvo. Jury selection is now under way in his capital murder trial. Malvo's lawyers say they're going to argue he was basically brainwashed by his alleged accomplice, John Allen Muhammad. Muhammad's trial continues in nearby Virginia Beach. We'll have more on this coming up later.

Grove City, Pennsylvania: suspects caught. State police have found two teens suspected of killing their counselor at a private juvenile detention and treatment center. The boys escaped and were on the run for more than 12 hours.

Little Rock, Arkansas: campaigning for cash. President Bush visits Arkansas and South Carolina. And the first lady heads to Maine for fund-raisers. Now, in just one day, they are expected to rake in more than $2.4 million.

And that is a look at stories "Cross Country" tonight.

Coming up: Rosie O'Donnell's $100 million court battle. A guilty verdict could bury her financially. Find out where the case stands now.

Plus, fatigued, tired, run down? I don't know about you, but sometimes I am. Why are so many of us getting shortchanged on shut- eye? Tonight we begin our special weeklong series "Sleepless in America."

Also tonight: revived toddler. Find out how she was brought back to life almost an hour after being pronounced dead. It is an amazing story you're not going to want to miss.

But first, let's take a look "Inside the Box" at the top stories on tonight's network newscasts.

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COOPER: Well, Rosie O'Donnell was back in court today for what is likely to be one of the last installments of her ongoing, nail- biting legal program. O'Donnell and her former publisher have been duking it out in court over who is to blame for the "Rosie" magazine's demise.

CNN's Mary Snow has the latest on today's testimony. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

MARY SNOW, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): With her testimony on the stand over, Rosie O'Donnell showed up for the final stages of her trial against Gruner + Jahr both relieved, she said, and eager.

ROSIE O'DONNELL, FMR. TALK SHOW HOST: The nerves are gone. As soon as I was able to tell my story, I am quite happy with the progress of the trial. And I am looking forward to Judge Gammerman's (ph) decision.

SNOW: While much of the trial has focused on name calling, the last stage turned to the money. O'Donnell's lawyers are claiming that books were cooked to keep O'Donnell at the magazine. They zeroed in on a clause in the joint agreement that would have allowed either party to walk away from their contract if they lost more than $4.2 million by June of 2002.

In an email to G + J's CEO in Germany, the U.S. chief financial officer wrote: "The management team of G + J USA is recommending to you that we manage the financials, such that we don't fall below the required threshold point so that we can continue to publish 'Rosie.'" "We are asking for your approval to this strategy."

G + J's Germany CEO testified on videotape that he didn't recall ever getting the e-mail, but that the company does not manage books or manipulate numbers. O'Donnell's lawyers claim that because the magazine was losing money, G + J was making editorial changes in violation of O'Donnell's contract to boost sales.

O'DONNELL: Well, I'm sad to say that the case is not over today. Our law team fully expected that we would be done today. But unfortunately the opposing side still has more to do.

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SNOW: And now the trial resumes on Wednesday, when both sides are expected to rest their case. And then this case will go to the judge. Just how long that timetable for a decision is unclear, but lawyers say it could take several weeks -- Anderson.

COOPER: All right. Mary Snow, thanks for the update.

While we are still crunching some numbers, this fast fact for you: if publisher G + J wins this lawsuit, Rosie O'Donnell could feel some real financial pain. The publisher is seeking $100 million from O'Donnell, meaning she could lose more than 85 percent of her estimated net worth of $115 million. We're actually going to have a lot more of the details on the Rosie O'Donnell legal battle in a few minutes, when we talk with "The New York Times" reporter covering the case, David Carr.

We're following a number of international stories as well tonight. Let's check the "UpLink."

Washington: fence mending. For the first time since the Vietnam War ended in 1975, that country's defense minister meets with his U.S. counterpart in Washington. Fan Van Trau (ph) had lunch with Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld at the Pentagon today after meeting with Secretary of State Colin Powell.

Khali (ph), Colombia: American hostage freed. A U.S. citizen is back with his family after being kidnapped last weekend by right wing paramilitaries. Colombian troops burst into a house last night, rescued the man and made three arrests. Very lucky indeed.

Guatemala: last hoorah. A former Guatemala City mayor leads in the race for president with former dictator, Efrain Rios Montt, a distant third. Now, without the presidency, Rios Montt will lose his immunity to prosecution for human rights violations when his term in Congress ends in January. Human rights groups accuse him -- Rios Montts, that is -- of carrying out massacres during Guatemala's civil war that ended in 1996.

Manila, Philippines: Ms. Afghanistan. An Afghan woman, her name is Vita Samadzi (ph), is the first winner of the beauty for a cause prize in the Miss Earth Pageant. She didn't win the title of Miss Earth. Miss Honduras did that.

What's more, Ms. Afghanistan could actually face prosecution when she gets home. She was wearing a bikini in the beauty contest.

And that is a look at tonight's "UpLink."

Tonight, we kick off a special series for you, "Sleepless in America." All week long, we're going to look at the latest in research and innovations to help a nation of groggy heads get a better night's sleep.

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COOPER (voice-over): If you didn't get enough sleep last night, well, you're not alone.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I just kept waking up in intervals throughout the night.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Five.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Six.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I get about five and a half to six hours of sleep.

COOPER: For nearly one in two Americans, a good night's sleep is merely a pipe dream. This week, in our series "Sleepless in America," we'll attempt to figure out why something that should come so naturally can for so many of us be so difficult.

Coming up, we'll look at the widespread problem of sleep deprivation and why for many the quest for rest begins at the local pharmacy. And in the days ahead, could our kids be on to something? We'll look at the restorative power of napping. We'll also go to the military, where cutting edge research could soon make sleeping pills obsolete. We'll also investigate what happens when sleep is anything but peaceful. We'll take a close look at the frightening world of sleep disorders.

And finally, can a night at a sleep clinic provide real solutions? I'll find out first hand.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

COOPER: Well, just how sleep deprived are we? Coming up tonight in our special series, we'll look at what you can do to fight exhaustion. We'll talk with someone who gets people to sleep for a living.

Also, celibacy in the priesthood. The call for the reform of a century's old tradition.

And a little later, crossing the border to get a deal on stomach stapling surgery? Does that sound like a good idea? You'd actually be risking your life just to save a little cash?

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COOPER: We are back now with more of our weeklong series, "Sleepless In America." Tonight, a nation deprived. As sleepy as you may feel, you can take some comfort at least in knowing that you are not alone.

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COOPER (voice-over): Ask anyone, and chances are they'll tell you they are not getting enough sleep.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sleep deprived? Sometimes yes. Five days a week, yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Definitely I'm sleep deprived.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm tired during the day. That's the problem.

COOPER (voice-over): In fact, 43 percent of all Americans consider themselves moderately to severely sleep deprived. Which might begin to explain why in the past year the National Sleep Foundation says we've spent nearly $1.5 billion on prescription sleep drugs like Ambian (ph). And sleeplessness is costly in money and lives. The group says more than 100,000 accidents a year are caused by drivers asleep at the wheel.

So what is it about our culture that makes us lose so much sleep? Job-related stress might have something to do with it, if you ask, say, Tony Soprano. Then throw in fears of the economy, terrorism, troubles at home, all key stressers keeping us tossing and turning.

For young Americans, sleep doesn't come any easier. In fact, between homework, extracurricular activities and the ubiquitous Internet, teens are sleeping less than ever. An average of only six hours a night.

So is there a solution to this chronic sleep depravity? Pharmaceutical companies certainly hope so. They are already racing to find the next Ambian (ph).

(END VIDEOTAPE)

COOPER: Well, why aren't we sleeping and what's the safest way to get the shut-eye we need? We're joined now by Dr. Conrad Iber. He's the president of the American Academy of Sleep Medicine.

Doctor, thanks for being with us. Before we talk about prescription medication, what can people at home do to help themselves sleep at night?

DR. CONRAD IBER, PRESIDENT, AMERICAN ACADEMY OF SLEEP MEDICINE: Well, I think the first thing is regularity. People need to establish for the clock and the brain that sets our sleep time, regular sleep time to go to sleep, regular habits.

A good parameter for not getting enough sleep on Saturday morning is sleeping in. If you wake up on a weekday and you are still sleepy and want to go back to sleep, or off on Saturday you sleep another 30 or 40 minutes, then you are probably chronically sleep deprived.

COOPER: Well, that's -- I mean, I can sleep 18 hours and I'm still sleepy. But maybe that's another larger issue. You also recommend not having a clock visible?

IBER: Yes. If you watch a clock, it often makes you more vigilant, more alert. And certainly, stimuli in the bedroom, television, radio, often changes in light from the television or noise from the radio, can keep you awake. There are certain habits that are important to have to improve what's called the hygiene of sleep.

One is a regular sleep time. The other is going to bed when you are sleepy. Thirdly, not to have excess noise. Of course, that might even be a bed partner who snores in the bedroom. And to keep this regular schedule throughout the week and weekend.

There's certain things obviously that interfere with sleep. Caffeine, a drug that's very, very commonly used. Billions of dollars are spent on caffeine, and that drug...

COOPER: Some people are basically just over-caffeinated. But I guess increasingly, people kind of turn to prescription pills. And, I mean, there are some very good ones out there. But are people kind of over-medicating themselves on this stuff?

IBER: Well, there are some problems. But remember, not all people use prescription drugs. For instance, alcohol is used almost as frequently as prescription drugs, and alcohol actually causes sleep disruption. So alcohol is a bad drug, if you will. Over-the-counter medicines are often used more than prescriptions. But prescriptions are an issue. Prescriptions are related to some of the excess risk of falling, for instance, in the elderly, who often use prescriptions perhaps to an excessive degree. Prescriptions should be used for a short period of time, perhaps weeks to manage difficult periods with insomnia.

COOPER: And I guess with some people, are prescriptions being used to kind of mask just bad sleeping habits?

IBER: Or disease. For instance, prescriptions can be used to mask people who are having sleeplessness due to sleep apnea or what's called the restless leg syndrome, other diseases that cause sleeplessness during the night. But more often prescriptions are used for perhaps too long a period of time to be safely used.

As I mentioned, one of the complications is excess falling in the elderly. Covering up diseases is another complication, particularly people who have respiratory disease.

COOPER: Right. And the key, I guess, is you just have to communicate with your doctor and you have to figure out what's going to work best for you.

Doctor Conrad Iber, appreciate you joining us. Thanks very much.

IBER: Thank you.

COOPER: Our series "Sleepless in America' continues all week. Tomorrow, we'll look at napping. It's not just for kids anymore. At least it shouldn't be, according to some. What cat naps might do for you.

Also, Wednesday, the innovations by the military that could one day make sleeping pills a thing of the past. They're doing some fascinating research.

Thursday, when sleep is one long nightmare. We'll go inside the world of sleep disorders.

And on Friday, a night at a sleep clinic. Could it work for you? I'll let you know if it worked for me. I'm actually going to spend the night at a sleep clinic.

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COOPER (voice-over): A toddler pronounced dead is brought back to life.

Rosie's publishers take the stand.

And stomach stapling surgery south of the border.

We'll be right back.

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COOPER: Time for our top stories. Let's check "The Reset."

Washington, D.C. Court review. The Supreme Court has agreed to hear arguments whether terror suspects held at the Guantanamo Bay Naval Base can contest their detention in U.S. courts. The Bush administration claims the detainees can be held indefinitely without being charged or tried.

Washington, D.C. on alert. A brief alert was declared at the White House after a small plane strayed into restricted air space over Washington. The plane was escorted to an airport in North Carolina, where authorities concluded that the pilot posed no threat.

Washington, D.C. AOL -- AWOL no longer. The Air National Guard says it no longer considers Simon Holcombe (ph) absent without leave and it will allow her to stay in the United States while she resolves family issues. Holcombe and her partner were both serving in Iraq, when her husband's ex-wife sued custody of their seven kids. Holcombe could have lost custody if she had returned to Iraq. Simone (ph) I believe is her first name.

Baltimore, Maryland. Visionary study. New research suggests more than 300,000 older Americans could save their eyesight by taking Vitamin C, E, betacaritine and zinc or zinc oxide. Those supplements have been shown to prevent mascular degeneration, a leading cause of blindness among the elderly.

Washington, D.C. Numbers game. The FCC has approved a rule allowing cell phone users who switch carriers to keep using the same phone number. In some cases, they'll also be able to switch their home phone numbers to cell phones.

And that is a look at our "Reset."

And this is just in to CNN. A warning from the Homeland Security Department. The department warns state and local law enforcement to keep a close eye on their uniforms. This after Saturday's car bombing at Saudi Arabia. Now sources have said that terrorists were wearing Saudi security uniforms, which helped them penetrate security. Officials have said the bombing appears to be the work of al Qaeda and that the use of the uniforms was a new method of operations. So this is a warning going out here in the U.S.

An alert police detective is getting credit for saving a California toddler who had been pronounced dead from drowning. And late this afternoon, good news about her recovery.

Miguel Marquez has the amazing story.

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MIGUEL MARQUEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It is a near- drowning and a near death that may also be a near miracle.

BRIAN OXMAN, FAMILY FRIEND: She recognizes her mom and her dad, and she is grabbing at their hands and hugging them.

MARQUEZ: Last Friday, 10-month-old Mikhaila Jesperson (ph) fell into her family's pool. How long she was in the 52-degree water is unknown. At 9:06 a.m., the 911 call went out.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: 911, what is the your emergency?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My baby fell in the pool and she's drowneded. (ph)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is she breathing?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, she's not.

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MARQUEZ: Two minutes later, police arrived and started CPR.

STEVE RUBIN, FULLERTON POLICE DEPT.: We didn't detect a pulse or any breathing. The baby was very cold to the touch.

MARQUEZ: The toddler was rushed to Anaheim Memorial Medical Center. At 10:06 a.m., police say, a doctor there pronounced her dead.

DET. MICHAEL KENDRICK, FULLERTON POLICE DEPT.: This child could have been put in a body bag, zipped up and transported to the coroner's office and put in a fridge.

MARQUEZ: The coroner was on the way and Michael Kendrick, the police photograph, was taking pictures for evidence, when the little corpse began to twitch, then began to breathe.

KENDRICK: She had been pronounced dead about 45 minutes, and I just couldn't believe. I was shocked that, you know, this child was actually breathing.

MARQUEZ (on camera): Anaheim Memorial Medical Center, the hospital where Mikhaila Jesperson was originally taken, says, because of federal law, it can say nothing about the case.

Jesperson has since been transferred to Children's Hospital of Orange County.

(voice-over): Doctors there say it is still too early to know if Mikhaila suffer longterm damage.

Miguel Marquez, CNN, Los Angeles.

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COOPER: Just a remarkable story.

And two of the rescuers who helped save the toddler will be guests next hour on "PAULA ZAHN NOW."

Now, "Justice Served." In Chesapeake, Virginia, jury selection begins in the trial for the second sniper suspect, Lee Boyd Malvo.

Plus, waiting for a verdict. Jurors just ended a third day of deliberations in the Robert Durst murder trial.

Here to talk about both high profile cases, Court TV's Lisa Bloom.

Lisa, thanks for being with us.

LISA BLOOM, COURT TV: Hi, Anderson.

COOPER: Let's talk about this Malvo trial. He has pleaded not guilty. Clearly, it seems, though, they are going to be arguing some sort of brain washing on the part of Muhammad to Malvo.

BLOOM: Malvo, it's going to be all about not guilty by reason of insanity. And studies show that those who plead insanity have higher rates of conviction than those who don't because you have to agree to the underlying crime. You have to concede that you committed the crime. Juries don't want to let crazed lunatics ought on the streets. That's the bottom line.

I think it's a very risky defense for this 17-year-old, who's now 18. But 17 at the time.

COOPER: Is there anything we've seen thus far in Muhammad's trial that may give a hint of how Malvo's trial is going to go?

BLOOM: Well, it's going to be about who was the mastermind. Malvo says, as you said, that Muhammad was the mastermind, that he brainwashed him, that he controlled him, that he planted ideas in his mind.

But there's a little bit of a stretch from that to the insanity defense. After all, for the insanity defense, Malvo has to say that he was unable to control his actions at all, not just that he was influenced by the older man.

COOPER: Interesting. It's definitely going to be interesting to see.

Let's talk about this Robert Durst trial. We thought it would be a late night of deliberation. They have now been -- the jury has been told to go home. But they are returning tomorrow on a holiday. The judge, at one point, I guess, had to order pizza. Maybe it -- there was -- it seems, at least, like there is momentum towards some sort of a verdict.

BLOOM: Well, the jury is certainly taking their deliberations seriously. They're staying late, they're deliberating tomorrow, on a court holiday.

COOPER: Are you surprised how long they have been deliberating? BLOOM: I am surprised. I mean, after all, Durst admits that he killed and chopped up his neighbor and put his body in garbage bags in Galveston Bay. You'd think...

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BLOOM: Yes, I say it like that. But, you know -- and -- and keeping in mind, this is Texas, a very law and order state.

Now, these long deliberations could mean a couple of things. One is that the jury is simply going very methodically and carefully through the evidence, like they did in the Westerfield case last summer, ultimately coming back with a conviction. Or one or two people are actually holding out, believing Durst's story that this was a killing in self-defense.

COOPER: Yes, and what a story it is. I mean, with the cross- dressing and the mute woman. The whole thing is just sort of unbelievable. It's like a bad made-for-TV Lifetime movie.

BLOOM: Yes.

COOPER: Did he do himself any favors by testifying?

BLOOM: I don't think so, Anderson.

This is a man who has an incredible memory for a lot of details. But when it comes down to the killing that he admits he did of his neighbor, he simply doesn't recall details. He doesn't remember chopping up the body, putting him in a bag. He doesn't even remember who pulled the trigger, whether it was the neighbor or whether he pulled the trigger himself. I don't think he helped himself at all. He didn't do well on cross-examination.

COOPER: All right. Lisa Bloom, thanks very much.

BLOOM: Thanks.

Well, America's Catholic bishops are meeting in Washington this week. Not -- it's what's not on the agenda that is getting most of the attention. That's a campaign for optional celibacy. Excuse me.

CNN's Jeff Flock reports.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: St. Louis, Missouri; Silver Spring, Maryland; Oakland, California.

JEFF FLOCK, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Thousands of letters from parishioners to the Catholic bishops this week asking that priests be allowed to marry.

SR. CHRISTINE SCHENK, FUTURE CHURCH: It's not just some radical fringe element. This is bedrock Catholics who know something needs to happen. BOB MOTYCKA, FORMER PRIEST: I said, you know, I'd like to be a married priest. And they said, Well, it's time for a new job.

FLOCK: Bob Motycka, nearly 20 years a priest, before quitting to take a wife, is part of the trend -- 58,000 priests in 1965, 43,000 now. About 500 parishes without a priest then, more than 3,000 now.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There will be a priest here only half-time.

FLOCK (on camera): Really? Even for as large of a church as this?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right.

FLOCK (voice-over): At the 3, 000-Family St. Mathias in Milwaukee, Father Joseph Oftemeier (ph) co-wrote this letter to the bishops, saying if priests could marry, more would serve.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: To me, it's almost duh.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't think that's logical and I would disagree with that.

FLOCK: Milwaukee Archbishop Timothy Dolan says Protestant denominations with married clergy also have shortages. Priests, he says, like this one, Father Michael McGovern, are married to God, as they should be.

FR. MICHAEL MCGOVERN, ST. JULIANA, CHICAGO: It's a freedom to be wherever God wants me to be in a particular situation without looking at my watch or my calendar to think about, I've also got my wife and my kids that I owe a responsibility to.

FLOCK: What to do about the lack of priests is on the Conference of Bishop's agenda this week. Priest celibacy is not.

I'm Jeff Flock, CNN, in Milwaukee.

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COOPER: We're going to have more on the bitter legal fight starring Rosie O'Donnell straight ahead. Just what's at stake for the former talk show host? We'll look at her possible fate coming up.

Also, cutting the fat at a cheaper price. But is it worth the risk?

Also, a little bit later on, why London loves America's favorite tabloid talk king, Jerry Springer, debuting in a very unlikely venue.

Stay with us.

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COOPER: CNN.com/360. That's where you can send e-mail, instant feedback any time. A little later, earlier we brought you up to date on the Rosie O'Donnell suit. The legal battle between O'Donnell and the publisher of her now defunct magazine is now entering its final stages. It has been a colorful case. One followed closely by "New York Times" reporter David Carr. He joins us now. David, thanks for being with us.

You know, all the sort of theatrics outside the courtroom aside, it really boils down to money and there was some testimony today about possible cooking of books. What is it really going to boil down to?

DAVID CARR, "NEW YORK TIMES": It was fun with the county (ph) inside the courtroom. And boy, we were all running if are the coffee pot at lunch. We were waist deep in numbers, many of which were designed to demonstrate that in an effort to keep Rosie O'Donnell locked up in a partnership she wanted to get out of, Gruner and Jahr fudged the numbers and made it...

COOPER: Because they both basically had this escape clause that said if anyone loses more than $4.2 million they can back out.

CARR: Her lawyers argue that precisely the time she wanted to run away from this partnership they close the side door and in a sense breached their fiduciary duty to Rosie O'Donnell, her partner -- their partner.

COOPER: How did the german head of Gruner and Jahr do. I guess they produced this e-mail which seems to be kind of a smoking gun, at least, from an outside perspective.

CARR: I would say it was more like a smoking Howitzer. It was a pretty damning document. The CFO who wrote it had the misfortune of being his second day on the job when he wrote it. And he was up there trying to explain something that looked like prima facia evidence that they worked the numbers to keep Rosie locked into the partnership.

COOPER: Now, a lot of people, conventional wisdom is that the judge could say -- I mean, there's going to be 1 more day of testimony judge could take weeks to come up with some sort of verdict, but you think it could actually happen on Wednesday.

CARR: I don't know about that, Anderson. It was funny, because at the end of the day, and it was a long, tough day for all of us, including the defendant Rosie O'Donnell. She said to the judge, "should I come back on Wednesday, because tomorrow is a break day." He said, "I'm going to have some interesting things to stay. I think, you might want to come by."

So, I don't know if he was just being cute or if that was an indication that maybe he'll throw a lightning bolt right there on the spot and settle the whole dang thing.

COOPER: A lot of money at stake for both sides. Do you think anyone is going to get the money they're talking about?

CARR: I doubt he's going to hand out more than 2 nickels to anybody. He doesn't seem compelled by the case. He doesn't think the asset in question was worth very much, and he doesn't seem very impressed by the fight that's before him. He clearly would like to get this out of his courtroom.

COOPER: All right, David Carr from the "New York Times," thanks very much.

CARR: Oh, Pleasure, Anderson.

COOPER: Time to check on pop culture news on "The Current." The "Matrix: Revolutions" opened with record business. The trilogy's finale took in $204 million dollars in its global bow. Critics have hailed it as by far the best Matrix movie released so far in the second half of this year.

"CROSSFIRE" co-host, Tucker Carlson, is developing a new weekly series for PBS. The bow-tied conservative is expected to bring PBS a new audience in return for a stylish PBS tote bag. So that's a good exchange

"USA Today" reports that "Shrek 2" will open next May with some new members in the cast. Antonio Banderas will be playing Pussin Boots. Can't wait to see whose playing Boots

Madonna's new children's book is out today. Her long time fans may be disappointed to lean that "Mr. Peabody's Apples" is in fact not a double entendre. Sorry about that.

Well, in the fight against fat, more and more people are going under the knife for gastric bypass surgery. We talked about that last week. The risks are substantial. Just last week we told you a Boston Hospital stopped offering a type of the surgery after a patient died when doctors say a staple gun misfired. Another concern for patients are the monetary concern. But as Jason Bellini reports, you can overcome that by heading to the border.

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JASON BELLINI, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Melanie Fisher, minutes before going under.

MELANIE FISHER, SURGERY PATIENT: Bye, America.

BELLINI: She's coming to Mexico for her surgery. Melanie made this calculation.

FISHER: I will die if I don't have the surgery done.

BELLINI: Back home in Iowa, her insurance company, she says, disagreed. She couldn't prove she was morbidly obese enough for them to pay for the operation.

FISHER: My grandparents both died of diabetes, my mother's diabetic, all my aunts are diabetics. There's a loss of limbs and blindness.

BELLINI: She says, in the U.S. there was no way to afford an operation that in total costs upwards of $30,000. So the Fishers decided to turn her surgery into a Mexico familiarly adventure. FISHER: Vacation surgery, great!

We budgeted everything in and it's under $10,000 for three people to go to Mexico to have it done.

BELLINI (on camera): Melanie tells me before today she never allowed anyone to take her picture. She was too embarrassed by the way she looks.

(voice-over): She allowed me to come along, because she thought her story might give others like her hope. But doctors who do weight loss surgery in the U.S. say Melanie is taking a serious risk. When they get surgery in the U.S...

DR. RICHARD LAZZARO, SURGEON: They have been evaluated by cardiologists, pulmonary specialists, psychologist specialists, nutritionists.

BELLINI: Melanie gets her doctor's consultation the day before surgery.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Melanie, we could have any complications, any.

BELLINI: Melanie's surgery, according to Igary (ph) was perfectly routine.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So far, so good.

BELLINI: But experts say 1 in 7 patients do have postoperative complications.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Complications can arise after surgery. Having your specialist thousands of miles away is not in the best interest of a patient.

BELLINI: Melanie, however, feels she's made it through the riskiest part of her gamble. Jason Bellini, CNN, Mexico.

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COOPER: Well, Coming up next on 360, wait until you hear the story we can't tell you about Prince Charles. It's the wildest story you won't hear from us tonight.

Also tonight, Jerry Springer, the opera. Coming up.

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COOPER: For today's "Fresh Print," we wanted to look at all the fresh print about the story no one is talking about. That's right, I'm referring -- or not referring, as the case may be -- to the mystery of the Prince Charles story that wasn't.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) COOPER (voice-over): Consider the latest headlines out of the U.K. Camilla fury. My Charles would never do that. Queen, I support Charles. William fears political to ruin his father.

What are they all talking about? Sorry, they can't tell you, and neither can we. Not only is there a gag order keeping British papers from spilling the details, those zany journalistic standards of ours won't even permit us here at CNN to tell you everything.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The prince hasn't come out and denied these allegations, which we can't report.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Legal nightmare. If I say the wrong thing, I'm going to get hauled off to the bloody tower and that will be the end of me.

COOPER: Or even see some of their more scandalous headlines.

Why? Because the claim no one is talking about, outside Charles saying he didn't do the thing no one can say he did, came from only one paper, quoting only one source even they called hardly reliable.

The royals agree, saying the source has suffered from post- traumatic stress and alcoholism, and that police found his past claims to be unsubstantiated.

In other words, no one can tell you what the source says Prince Charles did, but Prince Charles wants you to know he definitely didn't do it.

At this point you may be tempted to ask, is this any way to report a news story? Well, I really couldn't say.

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Well, today on "The Jerry Springer Show," and I quote from the official Jerry Web site, quote, "Juan had sex with his fiancee's transsexual uncle and he is here to plead forgiveness from her." End quote.

Now, if you can believe it, this isn't the most outlandish Jerry show out there today. That title goes to "Jerry Springer: The Opera," beginning a campy, trash-filled run in London's West End. Here's CNN's Robyn Curnow.

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ROBYN CURNOW, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): A chorus of dancing Ku Klux Klanners and diaper-wearing divas. And that's just the first act of "Jerry Springer: The Opera."

As for the Springer character, well, in true operatic style, he meets a messy end.

JERRY SPRINGER, TALK SHOW HOST: I understand I go to hell. So.

CURNOW: To hell and back on stage, a musical interpretation of Springer's brash TV talk show.

SPRINGER: Opera really is our show put to music, because our show has all the traditional themes of opera, of classic opera. It has the chaos, the mock tragedy, the farce, gender misidentification.

CURNOW: The so-called shock opera that's been billed at triumph, tragedy and trailer trash.

SPRINGER: My mother would have been so proud. Gerald, you got culture, you're in opera.

CURNOW: Critics say it's high culture meets low culture, an odd theatrical mix that seemed great for the box office. More than $3 million in tickets already sold for this run, against all expectations.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It was developed in a little fringe venue. We had a lot of work to do, and we didn't expect it to have much of a life beyond a small run in a little fringe venue.

CURNOW: If the reviews mean anything, "Jerry Springer: The Opera" should have a long run.

Next stop, Broadway?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Thank you, Shantel (ph).

CURNOW: Robyn Curnow, CNN, London.

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COOPER: But has Jerry Springer seen it? That's the question.

So, is it true McDonald's wants to rewrite the dictionary? Tonight, at least we're getting the final word.

Plus, tomorrow, the raw power of nap time. Maybe those kids in kindergarten are actually on to something.

But first, today's buzz -- should the Gitmo detainees have access to family and lawyers? What do you think? Vote now, at cnn.com/360. Results, when we come back.

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COOPER: Time now for the buzz. We asked you, should the Gitmo detainees have access to family lawyers? Sixty-three percent of you said yes, 37 percent voted no. This is not a scientific poll, just your buzz.

Tonight, taking McJobs to "The Nth Degree." McDonald's is complaining to Merriam Webster about a word appearing in the newest edition of its collegiate dictionary. The word is McJob, which Merriam Webster defines as, quote, "A job, usually in the retail or services sector, that is low-paying, often temporary and offers minimal or no benefits or opportunity for promotion." McDonald's says the definition is inaccurate, although they stopped short of calling it a whopper. But is McDonald's really in a position to start dictating language usage to the rest of us? I mean, if you ask me, first I'd like to know exactly what province their french fries come from, and why a significant portion of happy meals look only mildly sanguine at best.

I mean, what's next? If we let corporations define what words mean, imagine it -- KFC, adjective, healthy, life extending. Example, Mabel observed a strict KFC diet. White Castle, noun, a majestic palace populated by perforated white meat. Olestra, noun, anything yummy that is not leaky or explosive.

No, my friends, for the sake of George Orwell and Ray Crock, we have got to draw the linguistic line. Handing over linguistic control to just any old clown is not only un-American, frankly it's a prospect that makes me grimace. See.

All right, that wraps up our program tonight. Coming up next, "PAULA ZAHN NOW."

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