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Iowa Hustle: Gephardt Blasts Dean; Mission: Moon & Mars

Aired January 14, 2004 - 19:00   ET

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ANDERSON COOPER, HOST (voice-over): The president's ambitious plan to put a man on Mars.

Attacks on Dean intensify as the Iowa hustle heats up.

The Fastows make a deal. Did they bring down the other Enron executives?

Conquering depression: tonight, a therapy that might work for you.

A death row killer taunts his victim's mother in cyber space. Can he be stopped.

And, Armani, Versace, and Stan Herman? He's the man who keeps the masses in uniform.

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ANNOUNCER: Live from the CNN Broadcast Center in New York, this is ANDERSON COOPER 360.

COOPER: And good evening. Thanks for joining us on 360. A lot going on.

If you dare to go out tonight, bundle up in the Northeast, like this person here. I can't even tell if that's a man or a woman. At this hour, in many cities across the region, temperatures are below zero; some places dangerously below zero. We have a live report on the big chill coming up.

But first tonight, our top story: heeded words on the presidential campaign trail. Democratic candidate Richard Gephardt blasting front-runner rival Howard Dean. The latest poll suggests the two are running neck and neck, just five days before the Iowa caucuses.

Senior political correspondent, Candy Crowley, has the latest on the Iowa hustle.

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CANDY CROWLEY, CNN SR. POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Richard Gephardt thinks Howard Dean changed his views on gun control, trade and Medicare to make himself the hit of the party. He did not exactly call him a liar.

REP. RICHARD GEPHARDT (D-MO), DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: To me, there is no room for the cynical politics of manufactured anger and false conviction.

CROWLEY: In a high-stakes struggle for an Iowa first, the gracious gentleman from Missouri let loose. He did not call Dean unelectable, but he walked around the edges.

GEPHARDT: Now we find out he thinks there is an upside to the terrorists running the Palestinian Authority. And we thought George W. Bush was unprepared to be president of the United States.

CROWLEY: Dean, battling to secure his lead over Gephardt in Iowa, was out of state most of Wednesday, trying to push back against a threat to his grip on New Hampshire.

HOWARD DEAN (D), DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I think General Clark is a good guy. But I truly believe he's a Republican.

CROWLEY: Camp Dean also had to sink up Dean's criticism for George Bush for going it alone in Iraq with a 1995 letter Dean wrote to President Clinton urging unilateral action in Bosnia.

DEAN: That's consistent with what I've been saying for a year. I've gone through all the circumstances in which I would use force. One of them is to stop genocide if other world bodies refuse to abide what their obligation is.

CROWLEY: In fact, Dean argued in the letter that international efforts had failed in Bosnia. Still, when you're battling on two fronts, another day on defense is not what the doctor ordered.

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COOPER: It is getting personal almost, Candy. Is this -- I mean, there are those who say, look, this is just politics as usual. Five days to go. This kind of stuff is expected.

CROWLEY: You know, I think there's a lot of truth in that. I mean, it always takes a slightly different form, but I have to tell you, in the last election, when John McCain and George Bush were going at each other in South Carolina, it was pretty bitter.

It does make it more difficult when you say things like this which sort of approach that line. It's going to make it more difficult later, when the party has a nominee, to sort of say -- you know, come up and say, well, I now support him. And then we ask things like, but didn't you say this and didn't you say that? That is more difficult. But in the end, what matters is next Monday, not four months from now.

COOPER: All right. That is where their eyes are focused, next Monday. Candy Crowley, thanks very much for that. We 're going to talk more about this a little later on in the program.

This afternoon, President Bush unveiled the most ambitious plan for space exploration in decades. The goal? The moon and Mars.

CNN senior White House correspondent, John King, reports.

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JOHN KING, CNN SR. WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The president wants man to return to the moon, and then set sight on Mars and beyond.

GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I do not know where this journey will end. Yet we know this: human beings are headed into the cosmos.

KING: The ambitious new mission for the space program includes landing robots on the moon by 2008, a manned lunar mission as early as 2015, a permanent moon base and launch pad, new unmanned missions to Mars and Jupiter's moons, and ultimately a manned mission to Mars in 25 years or so.

BUSH: Mankind is drawn to the heavens for the same reason we are once drawn into unknown lands and across the open sea.

KING: Setting a new course in space became a Bush priority after last year's Shuttle Columbia tragedy, and will require major changes at NASA, urgent work on developing a new space vehicle, completing commitments to the International Space Station, and then retiring the aging shuttle fleet by 2010.

It has been more than 30 years since man walked on the moon. Back then it was a Cold War race. Now, Mr. Bush says other countries are welcome to join what he calls a journey. Critics call it a waste, saying robots like the new Mars Rover are less expensive and more effective than manned mission. Mr. Bush takes issue.

BUSH: We need to see and examine and touch for ourselves. And only human beings are capable of adapting to the inevitable uncertainties posed by space travel.

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KING: Now, here on Earth, one of the big debates will be, can the country afford this at a time of record budget deficits? Mr. Bush says yes. But actually, Anderson, he proposes only a very modest down payment, $12 billion over five years. If all is going well, a president five or six years down the road would face the tougher decision of spending tens and tens of billions more -- Anderson.

COOPER: And a tough decision that would be. John King, at the White House, thanks for that tonight.

We want to hear what you think. Today's "Buzz" question is this: Is a moon and Mars mission worth the multi-billion-dollar cost? What do you think? Vote now, cnn.com/360. We're going to have results at the end of the program. We're already getting a lot of e-mails on this topic. Moving on, another cash request is in the works for President Bush. This one to promote marriage. White House officials say President Bush will seek at least $1.5 bill for training to help couples develop and sustain, "healthy marriages." Administration officials have the support of conservative groups on the proposal. Some groups are pressing the president to go further and request a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage.

Some new developments in the war in Iraq today. Major arrests by American troops today. And a surprising document surfaces written by Saddam Hussein, apparently shedding light on what he thinks are foreign fighters.

CNN's national security correspondent, David Ensor, has the details.

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DAVID ENSOR, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The document was captured along with Saddam Hussein, and it was written by him after he lost power, U.S. officials say. It warns his supporters to be cautious about linking up with foreign jihadists and foreigners coming into Iraq to attack American troops.

DAN SENOR, SENIOR ADVISER, U.S. ADMINISTRATION IN IRAQ: While he is not being terribly cooperative, the documents found with him, the information found around him are being helpful.

ENSOR: Senior al Qaeda figures under interrogation have said Osama bin Laden refused their suggestions before the Iraq war to work with Saddam Hussein, according to knowledgeable officials. The former Iraqi leader warning against cooperating too closely with the jihadists is another piece of evidence challenging the Bush administration's assertions before the war about Saddam's ties to terrorist.

BUSH: We know he has ties with al Qaeda. He's got connections with al Qaeda.

ENSOR: U.S. officials do warn against making too much of the Saddam document. They say there is evidence of some limited cooperation against coalition forces in Iraq between Baathist diehards and foreign jihadists, and that not all foreign fighters are Islamic extremists. Meantime, there is more progress against insurgents attacking coalition forces. The arrest of number 54 of the most wanted, Khamis Sirhan al-Muhammad.

BRIG. GEN. MARK KIMMITT, U.S. ARMY SPOKESMAN: He was an enabler for the resistance attacks on Iraqis.

ENSOR: U.S. forces also took in four nephews of the man they most want to find, Saddam's close confidante, Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri.

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ENSOR: Saddam's document is not conclusive evidence his supporters in al Qaeda haven't cooperated much. But it does appear to complicate things for those who are arguing that they have -- Anderson.

COOPER: All right. David Ensor. Didn't think it could get much more complicated, but it seems to have done just that. All right. David, thanks very much, from Washington.

Now, David just mentioned today's capture of Khamis Sirhan al- Muhammad, number 54 on the Iraqi 55 most wanted list, here is a quick fast fact for you about that list. There are 13 people still at large on it. The highest-ranking fugitive is Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri. You just heard David mention him as well. He's the former vice chairman of Iraq's Revolutionary Command Council, number six on the most wanted list.

Freezing, cold weather is sweeping Northeastern states right now. In fact, a reporter from The Associated Press actually found some ice factory workers so cold they were staying in the freezer just to keep warm. That is not a good sign.

CNN's Adaora Udoji has more on the Northeast bitter chill.

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ADAORA UDOJI, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Today it was hard to hide...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's freezing.

UDOJI: ... from the bitter Arctic temperatures along the East Coast. In Maine, that meant seven below zero, which sent a blanket of smoky fog along the shore. The lowest readings? Pittsfield, Massachusetts, a wind chill of minus 31 degrees.

Some simply ran to work. Blocks of ice rose up in Boston Harbor. Still, not everyone complained or wore a jacket.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I would rather the cold than the hot. So this should get us prepared for it.

UDOJI: Not so. Desperate commuters bombarded AAA with calls. Hundreds flocked to stores, couldn't buy heaters fast enough. And in Boston...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Pine Street is on high alert tonight. We're sheltering about 700 men and women.

UDOJI: ... the city's largest homeless shelter was packed. Workers stocked up on blankets to head out and bring people in tonight. They're worried about even colder temperatures forecast for the rest of the week.

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UDOJI: Tomorrow they are forecasting -- some forecasters are saying one degree. And, of course, with the wind chill factor, it's going to be much colder. And just exactly 10 minutes ago, Anderson, we conducted our own little experiment.

We actually cracked an egg on the sidewalk here. We're just trying to get a sense of exactly how close it is. And 10 minutes later, it's actually quite hard. Ice. There it is. Tomorrow and Friday expecting even colder temperatures.

COOPER: Wow. All right. Adaora, I appreciate you standing outside for us. Take your egg, get back inside, get warm. Thanks very much, Adaora.

"Cross Country" now, a number of developing stories we're watching. Let's take a look at what's going on.

Columbus, Ohio: the serial highway shootings. Police link another incident to the string of shootings along Interstate 270. Confirmed, target number 19. A car hit in the hood by a bullet earlier this month. No one was hurt, thankfully.

Moving on to Chicago: partial building cave-in. Take a look at this. You are looking at a thrift store that partially collapsed this afternoon, apparently because of a nearby demolition project. One person suffered minor injuries. It could have been a lot worse.

San Jose, California: pro quarterback's night in jail. San Francisco 49er Jeff Garcia picked up on suspicion of drunk driving last night. He was penalized with a night in the slammer. Garcia faces a court date in early March.

Butler, Pennsylvania: constant reminder. A woman who allegedly drove drunk collided head-on with a car, killed a man, will be forced to carry a picture of him in his casket for the next five years. That is the woman there.

A judge issued that mandate as part of a probation form Jennifer Langston (ph). Her lawyers argued it was cruel and unusual punishment.

New York: greenery at Ground Zero. Architect Michael Arad unveiled some modifications to his plan for the World Trade Center memorial today. Take a look. There it is.

His revised version features a lush forest of trees surrounding the footprint of the twin towers. Initial reactions seem positive. We'll hear more about this coming up.

That's "Cross Country" for you tonight.

Just hours ago, another Enron executive copped a plea. Two key figures now going to jail. Will they turn on their former bosses, however? That is the question. We're going to get the latest.

Plus, our week-long series, "Conquering Depression." Can you find the key to happiness on a therapist's couch?

And moving on, Kobe Bryant on the offense. Fair or foul? His legal team does a full-court press against his alleged victim. We'll have all that and more. But first, let's take a look "Inside the Box" on the top stories on tonight's network newscasts.

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COOPER: Light snow falling here in New York. It's about 14 degrees. Cold all along the Northeast here in the U.S.

Score big one for the government in the Enron scandal today. Just hours ago, former CFO, Andrew Fastow, pled guilty to two felony counts for his role in the energy giant's collapse. He agreed to serve a 10-year prison term and cooperate with authorities. Then, just a short time later, a couple hours ago, Fastow's wife, Lea, former assistant treasurer to Enron, she entered a plea. She will serve a much shorter sentence.

As CNN's Ed Lavandera reports, some families who got burned by Enron's collapse say the court may be kowtowing to a pair of lawbreakers.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let us through, guys. All right. Let us through.

ED LAVANDERA, CNN DALLAS BUREAU CHIEF (voice-over): Andrew Fastow is the so-called mastermind of Enron accounting scandal. Prosecutors expect to use him to topple the last two pillars of Enron's corporate leadership, Jeffrey Skilling and Kenneth Lay. Both of those men say they're innocent.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We wish we could undone that harm, but we can't. What we can do is what the folks involved in this effort have been doing the last two years. And that is to work like crazy to find those responsible and punish them in a way that is just and that also serves as a warning to other morally challenged executives.

LAVANDERA: Fastow's wife, Lea, pled guilty to fraud and will spend five months in prison. Efforts are being made to send the Fastows away at different times so their two young boys aren't left without parents.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm up at about 4:30 just to get here by 7:30.

LAVANDERA: Tom Maderas (ph) doesn't understand why the justice system is working so hard to take care of the Fastow's child care situation. Maderas (ph) lost his job at Enron and most of his savings. Now he spends four hours a day commuting to and from a lower-paying job. And his wife now works, too. He says his children have been left with half a parent.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They only see the Fastows' kids. They're not thinking about the 4,500 other people who also have children that struggle daily. And they're being raised by day care, not by a nanny, not by mommy. LAVANDERA: Maderas (ph) feels no sympathy for the Fastows. He says they should have thought about their children when they were making millions of dollars at Enron.

Ed Lavandera, CNN, Dallas.

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COOPER: Well, tonight, a suburban Atlanta family is trying to cope with a crime seemingly so random, so unexpected, it defies explanation. Last night, a sudden surprise home invasion by a armed man left a 55-year-old father and his 17-year-old son dead in their homes. Their community is devastated.

CNN's Martin Savidge has the latest.

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MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): There was no apparent connection, authorities say, between the gunman who broke into the home and the father and son murdered inside. Fifty-five- year-old Bill Venable apparently struggled with the intruder. His 17- year-old son, Billy, was upstairs with his mother and heard the commotion.

SAM VENABLE, VICTIM'S BROTHER: She said, "Don't go down there." And he did to help his dad. And, of course, he got shot, too. Got killed.

SAVIDGE: The unidentified attacker was also killed a short time later in a shootout with police. The suspect not only broke into the homes of the victims, but into the lives of 1,400 students and faculty at Tucker High School, where Bill Venable was a teacher and also wrestling and football coach. His son was on the football team.

GAIL THOMAS, GRIEF COUNSELOR: If you had walked in the building earlier, you would have seen the state of shock a lot of kids were in, the state of denial.

SAVIDGE: Tucker High sits at the end of Main Street. And one way or another, the principal says, what happens outside of school eventually makes its way inside.

SCOTT BUTLER, PRINCIPAL, TUCKER HIGH SCHOOL: He's been teaching here 16 years, 130 kids a day. Can you imagine how many lives he's touched?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I gave my heart and soul to him for four years, since eight grade, playing football. He was more of a father.

SAVIDGE: But unlike most fathers, Bill and his son not only shared the dinner table, for four years they shared every day at school. As a result, family members say Billy not only gave his heart to his father but apparently also his life.

(END VIDEOTAPE) SAVIDGE: Outside the high school now in Tucker, there is a vigil that is under way. Police haven't said what they think may have triggered this crime. They are still trying to identify the suspect.

Meanwhile, the victims are extremely well known. The coach was teaching in this school district for about 25 years. His son was a high school senior with plans to go to Auburn University this fall -- Anderson.

COOPER: Yes. It is just unthinkable. Martin Savidge, thanks very much for that tonight.

We're tracking number of developing stories right now around the globe. Let's check the "UpLink."

Erez, Gaza: killer mom. A female suicide bomber, 21 years old, mother of two, well, she blue herself up at checkpoint. At least four Israelis killed, 10 people wounded. Two militant groups, Hamas and the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, claimed responsibility for the attack.

Brazil: American pilot arrest, and 10 American Airlines crewmembers detained. Why? Well, you see it there.

They refused to cooperate in the fingerprinting and photographing process. The pilot lifted his middle finger while being photographed. He says it was a joke. He's since apologized.

But the Brazilians weren't laughing. The pilot could face six to 12 months in jail.

And Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam: bird flu. A major fear of chicken right now. The World Health Organization says a bird flu that has raced through chicken farms in Asia killed at least three people in Vietnam. They say it could become a bigger problem for the region than SARS. Officials are scrambling to try to control the outbreak right now.

And that is what's going on with the "UpLink" tonight.

Conquering depression, it is not easy. But some new research has some surprising conclusions about a certain kind of therapy. Could it work for you? Part three of our special series is coming up in just a moment.

Also tonight, a killer online, taunting his victim's mother. You're going to meet the mom fighting to stop this cyber attacker. She joins me live.

And a little bit later on, are the Democrats in disarray, or is what's going on in Iowa just good old-fashioned politics? That is our "Midweek Crisis."

First, today's "Buzz" question. Is a Moon-Mars mission worth the multi-billion-dollar cost? Vote now, cnn.com/360. We'll have results at the end of the program.

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COOPER: Well, tonight we continue our special series, "Conquering depression." Last night we talked about antidepressant medication. Tonight, talk therapy.

In a moment, you're going to hear about a particular kind of therapy that has become increasingly popular. But first, let's look back, a brief analysis of our own on how far we've come since Dr. Freud.

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COOPER (voice-over): Today's therapy is part of American culture. You see it in movies and on TV.

BILLY CRYSTAL, ACTOR, "ANALYZE THIS": Have you been under a lot of stress lately?

ROBERT DE NIRO, ACTOR, "ANALYZE THIS": Like to see your best friend murdered?

CRYSTAL: That would qualify.

DE NIRO: Yes, I've got a lot of stress.

COOPER: But long before there was Frasier there was Freud. The father of psychoanalysis gave us the talking cure, tracing adult psychological problems to repressed childhood experiences, particularly sexual desires. You might even say Freud gave us Woody Allen, who highlighted neuroses in his films.

WOODY ALLEN, ACTOR, "BANANAS": I was a nervous child. I was a bed wetter when I was younger. I used to sleep with an electric blanket and I was constantly electrocuting myself.

COOPER: Freud had apostles who rejected his emphasis on sex as the basis for neuroses. They formed their own schools of analytic thought.

Alfred Adler started individual psychology. He coined the term "inferiority complex." Carl Jung's analytical psychology emphasized symbolism, focusing on the inner self in touch with a collective unconscious.

Karen Horney rebelled against Freud's view of femininity. Penis envy? Not a chance. She created the idea of basic anxiety, the feeling of being small and insignificant, helpless and endangered.

Behavioral therapy evolved from the insights of B.F. Skinner, who believed we're all products of our own environment.

Now, there's cognitive therapy, a more active approach to change, focusing more on the present instead of the past. And, of course, today, most popular of all, there is TV. You might call it couch potato therapy. Not very effective, but free psychological advice on almost every channel. DR. PHIL: You need to stop indulging yourself and get back in the game.

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COOPER: You need to stop doing that.

There are a lot of treatment options out there, of course, if you're depressed. But new research suggests that cognitive behavioral therapy may be among the most effective forms of talk therapy for people fighting depression.

Just a short time ago, I spoke with Jeffrey Young, noted psychologist and director of the Cognitive Therapy Center in New York. I started by asking him how cognitive therapy is different than other kinds of therapy.

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DR. JEFFREY YOUNG, DIRECTOR, COGNITIVE THERAPY CENTER, NEW YORK: We're teaching self-help skills the patient can use to get better on their own. And most therapies, they try to provide insight, understanding, but they don't actually give the patient tools they can use to actually get out of the depression.

COOPER: So you are not talking about dream analysis and what happened in your childhood. You're talking more about sort of skill sets for every day living now?

YOUNG: Right. Like how to change the way you're thinking about things, how to change your actual behavior right now. Not where did it come from, not why you're doing it. But just let's -- here are some techniques for change.

COOPER: Don't you have to know some of what happened in the past and why you might be doing something in order to change it now?

YOUNG: If you deal with chronic depression, which are people who have been depressed most of their lives, the therapy has to be altered. And it is very helpful then to look back in the past.

COOPER: I understand you actually give homework assignments to your patients. How does that work? Give me an example.

YOUNG: Right. Well, typically, the most common one, a daily mood log. Whenever they start feeling upset, sad, anxious, they take the sheet out. And it has different columns on it.

And at first, they fill out what was the event. Like, say, it might be a female patient, where her boyfriend didn't call her that night even though he was supposed to. Then the next column she writes down what she's feeling when he doesn't call her. So she might say, sad and anxious.

Then in the next column, we say, what are your automatic thoughts? What are you thinking to yourself? And she might say, he doesn't love me anymore. He wants to break up with me.

Then in the last column, they have to come up with a healthy answer, which is what the therapist helps them to do. Something like, my boyfriend hasn't called many times before. He always stays with me. He loves me.

I have no other signs. And for me to jump to this conclusion is just part of my depression.

COOPER: I've read some of the research, and the results seem pretty encouraging. I mean, there was just an article in the "Wall Street Journal" about a new study that was done. I guess it was published just last week in which the relapse rate of patients who were on antidepressant medication was 60 to 80 percent, I believe. If they stopped within a year, they might relapse into depression.

But with cognitive therapy, the relapse rate was only something like 25, 30 percent, was it?

YOUNG: Exactly. That's right, Anderson. And I think that's a very important difference, because a lot of people, they go only for medication because they know they can get better quickly. But what they don't realize is, when they go off the medication, the chances are, as you just said, 75 to 80 percent that within a year they will become depressed again.

So, basically, the medication doesn't in any way prevent future depressions. Whereas with cognitive therapy, we're actually teaching them skills, which even when the therapy is over, like those homework assignments, they can keep doing them. So when they start to get depressed again, they can start using the same skills and start doing...

COOPER: So it's not necessarily therapy that takes years and years and years?

YOUNG: No. Typically, it is 15 to 20 sessions of therapy. So it's actually a very short-term therapy.

COOPER: All right. Jeff, thanks very much.

YOUNG: Thank you, Anderson.

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COOPER: And for more information on depression, you can contact the National Institute of Mental Health toll free at 1-866-615-6464, or you can log on to its Web site at www.nimh.gov.

Our series, "Conquering Depression." continues tomorrow night, with a look at the young and hopeless, the fight against teenage depression. We're going to talk with the band Good Charlotte, who are reaching out to young people in need, telling them to hold on through their music.

Then on Friday, we wrap up the series with a special look at men and depression. Why are men often called depression's silent sufferers?

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COOPER (voice-over): Why Kobe Bryant's case may hinge on what's inside sealed medical records.

Our "Midweek Crisis." As Iowa heats up, are the Democrats in disarray?

And, do you know this man? He's the most famous designer you probably never heard of.

We'll be right back.

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COOPER: Coming up next on 360, Democrats turning on each other. Is it democracy in action or a party deeply divided?

Plus, Kobe Bryant's offensive. Is the mental history of his alleged victim fair game? We're going to take a closer look.

And a death row killer running free online. A victim's mother tries to pull the plug on her daughter's killer. She joins us live.

But first, let's look at other top stories in "The Reset."

Washington back to space. President Bush wants the U.S. to go back to the moon and then on to planet Mars. He announced his plans hours ago including a manned Lunar landing by 2015, permanent moon base and a manned mission to Mars by 2030.

Iraq, soldiers suicide. One in every 7 soldiers, whose death in Iraq is classified nonhostile has committed suicide. That, according to the Pentagon, which announced plans to today to try to combat the rising numbers. At least 21 troops have committed suicide since March of last year.

The Supreme Court: defending detainees. Pentagon lawyers are now defending the right of al Qaeda detainee being held at Gitmo. They filed a friend of the court brief saying it is unconstitutional for detainees convicted by military tribunals to be denied appeals in civilian court.

Columbus Ohio: highway shootings one more time. This story is not going away. Another car struck by a bullet on interstate 270. And the police link it to the 18 other attacks. No one was hurt, but the gun fire cracked a car's windshield. They don't know who's doing it.

That's tonight's "Reset."

With the Iowa caucuses just five days away now, the Democratic candidates and, by extension, the Democratic Party are facing a two- tiered crisis, an ongoing crisis that's also our midweek crisis.

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COOPER (voice-over): It's hard this early in the political season to tell how serious this crisis will be, but Democrats seem unusually divided right now, not just on issues, but in how they campaign.

HOWARD DEAN, (D) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I'm going after everybody, because I'm tired of being the pin cushion.

COOPER: Maybe because he took the lead so unexpectedly or because he's rejecting Clinton's formulas or because his rep as a straight talker, Howard Dean has been a pin cushion.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, I think Howard Dean should take his tax hiking, government expanding, latte drinking...

COOPER: The fights are getting brutal in commercials, even face to face.

AL SHARPTON, (D) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: It seems as though you discovered blacks and browns during this campaign.

CAROL MOSELEY BRAUN, (D) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I don't mean to pick on you. I know Howard Dean can take up for himself. But the fact of the matter is, the "Congressional Quarterly," says you voted with President Bush 53 percent of the time, you voted for the Patriot Act, you voted to deploy the missile defense system. And yet you stand up here and call up here and call Howard a hypocrite.

COOPER: The question is, will the current crisis ultimately demolish or toughen the nominee?

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COOPER: And, of course, we don't know the answer to that question for a while, but it doesn't mean we can't talk about it right now. Joining me from Los Angeles, we have political analyst, Carlos Watson. And in D.C., Democratic strategist, Julian Epstein. Appreciate both of you joining us.

Julian, let me start off with you. In Iowa, personal attacks, Gephardt almost calling Dean a liar, coming close to it. For a lot of outsiders, it is exciting to watch, but is it really good for the Democratic party?

JULIAN EPSTEIN, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: No, it's not good for the Democratic Party. And you can be sure that Republicans will use many of these tactics against whoever the nominee is. There's really -- Carlos pointed this out last night. Negative campaigning is as much a part of American politics as baseball is part of the culture. We can think back to the Bush versus McCain, we can think back, as Carlos pointed out last night, Clinton's-Tsongas, Carter and Kennedy, Ford and Reagan. The real question is, are these negative attacks effective. And secondly, are they over the top? I think, in terms of the effectiveness, clearly with the surge in the candidacies of Edwards and Clark, I think the evidence is pretty clear that they're not that effective.

And whether they're over the top is the second question. And Gephardt's attack, really on Dean today, calling him essentially a liar, in his campaign calling him a liar, I think is not going to be effective for Gephardt. And shows that Gephardt's candidacy is really a candidacy that's moving into a desperation phase.

COOPER: Let me jump in here. Carlos, I know you think this is sort of more politics as usual, not quite as critical of this as Julian is. But do you think these attacks, this sort of divergence of ideas is reflective of deeper divisions within the Democratic party?

CARLOS WATSON, POLITICAL ANALYST: I think in many ways you see a new Democratic party emerging. And again, maybe I will take a step back and say that I consider these attack and the negative campaign not only to be business as usual, but probably a six on a scale of ten. Much more devisive was Bush-McCain in 2000. And even more divisive was 1968, we saw a split convention.

But going forward, what will this do to the party? I actually think the new party 's merging. You see Howard Dean bringing new people to the polls. And you actually hear a lot of people, for all of the bitterness that's going on, you hear a lot of people saying they expect a record turnout in Iowa Monday.

COOPER: I got to jump in here thought. Because let me show you results from this Pew Center (ph) survey. And I'd like to get Julian in on this. Carlos is calling this the new Democratic party, but when you compare it to the Republicans on issues, very divided. In Republican support for the war, 85 percent say yes, Democrats: 39 percent to 54 percent.

If you look at other issues like preemptive war justified, do people think so? Republicans, 82 percent yes, Democrats pretty much split.

Julian, I've got to ask you again, are Democrats sort of hopelessly divided or, at least, is this going to hurt them going into this election?

EPSTEIN: I think you have to call a spade a spade. Look, Democrats are as divided, particularly over the unique issue of the Iraqi war, than I've ever seen them divided on any issue.

They are a party that's often divided, a house that's often divided freuently, because of the demographic nature. I think the party is ideologically more diverse, demographically more diverse than the Republicans. So you expect some amount of division. Iraq is a nuclear bomb in terms of that division, however.

The other thing that's most interesting, if you compare what the Republicans were able to do in 2000, the establishment was essentially, able to annoint the candidacy of George Bush. Here the establishment wants a candidate other than Dean. And the establishment has been unable to do that.

So, I think, these are very trying times for Democrats. But the point, in response to Carlos is, he would call it a six on a scale of one to ten, the difference between this and the Bush-McCain race, is that the negative campaigning has gone on for longer.

The second point is that one of the front-runners in Iowa today is a candidate known as undecideded. And the undecideds and the independents clearly, in all the poll data shows this, are being very turned off by negative campaigning. So I think the Gephardt strategy is a misfire.

COOPER: Final thought, Carlos.

WATSON: To put all this in perspective, Richard Gephardt is not just fighting to win in Iowa, he literally is fighting for his political life. He's been in office for 27 years. And as Julian has said before, if he losses Monday, he doesn't just step out of the race, he steps out of politics. So expect more bitter campaigning, not less, like it or not.

EPSTEIN: Yes, but Anderson, final point, if you got a second.

COOPER: I already -- take it.

EPSTEIN: The notion of going after Dean -- Gephardt going after Dean is nuts. The people that Gephardt ought to be going after are the independents and the centrists. Shooting at Dean right now is a real mistake. That's why Edwards is moving up. Real mistake on the part of Gephardt.

COOPER: All right. Leave it at there. Julian Epstein, Carlos Watson good to talk to you. Thanks very much. Got a lot in.

The Iowa Caucuses aren't always the best predictor of who will win the party's nomination. A quick news note for you, 1980, George H.W. Bush wins Iowa, but the nomination goes to Ronald Reagan. 1988 Bob Dole tops the Iowa Caucuses but loses the GOP to then Vice- President Bush. Finally in 1992, Iowan Tom Harkin wins in a landslide, but the nomination goes to Arkansas governor, Bill Clinton, who only received 2.8 percent of the vote in Iowa.

Well, justice served now. NBA star, Kobe Bryant's, defense team wants his jury to see the medical records of the woman accused of -- accusing him of rape. Bryant's lawyers say she's bi-polar, depressed and that may explain why -- what they call "her false accusation."

Court TV anchor, Lisa Bloom is on the case for us. Lisa, good to see you.

LISA BLOOM, COURT TV: Hi.

COOPER: Should they be able to open up these records? Should the jury be able to see them?

BLOOM: First of all, I've read both the prosecution and the defense papers. The defense argues, essentially, that because she's bi-polar she has no credibility. That's a big leap that I don't think is established in their papers. They are going to have to prove to the satisfaction to the Judge.

There's about 2 million people who are bi-polar. You're doing this wonderful special on depression all week. Bi-polar disorder is, essentially manic depression. Depression doesn't correlate in any way with psychosis, with delusions, with hallucinations, that's what they're going to need to show.

COOPER: Right, but the defense is saying, look, if she has some sort of track record of unusual behavior, of behavior involving sex, maybe that has some sort of impact on this case.

BLOOM: But wait a second. Unusual behavior, behavior involving sex. Now, we're getting into rape shield laws, if we're talking about her sexual history. That's protected.

They have to show a clear link between some problem with her credibility, hallucinating. Does she see things, does she make things up? That's psychotic behavior, that's not bi-polar disorder. That's the link they're going to have to show to the satisfaction of the judge.

COOPER: Do you think the judge is going to rule that this can be shown to the jury?

BLOOM: Hard to say, because the prosecution's papers are filed mostly under seal, so it is hard to know what their argument is. The defense paper not under seal, I think they want the media to see it, they want the media to get the idea that she's this crazy, lunatic sex addict so we'll talk about it and she'll be defamed.

COOPER: It's interesting, the defense actually pointed to, as proof that this woman is bi-polar, which we do not know this, the defense pointed...

BLOOM: Statement of her boyfriend on "The Today Show." And isn't that a wonderful example of the co-dependent dance between the media and lawyers now in high profile cases?

COOPER: Well, what is the lesson in that? Don't have your friends talk on TV?

BLOOM: The lesson is, we're watching them and they're watching us. The lawyers are watching the media. Witnesses are giving their first testimony, in a sense, to the media, going on these shows and talking about the case. He was trying to help her. He lets one word slip, bi-polar, we got a 20 page brief now...

COOPER: Do you think they're intimating that basically she asked for it?

BLOOM: That she asked to be rape?

COOPER: Yes. Do you think the defense is intimating that?

BLOOM: No.

COOPER: Yes. Not that she -- but she -- but yes, in effect.

BLOOM: I think they're saying she asked for sex and, therefore, perhaps she couldn't deny consent. But no means no at any point, that's the law very clearly. And look, she conceded, she went into the room voluntarily, she flirted with him, she wanted to kiss him. But at some point she said no. And that that's enforceable.

COOPER: All right, we'll see. Lisa Bloom, thanks very much.

BLOOM: Thanks.

COOPER: Well, convicted killer taunts the family of one of his victim from death row, no less. Find out how. It's all happening, coming up.

Bono didn't get in trouble for swearing at the Golden Globes, but watch out, the FCC is talking about cracking down.

Just ahead, bad language to the "Nth Degree."

You're going to meet man behind fashion for workers out there, a lot Americans. We'll be right back.

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Just hours ago, a woman named Mary Kate Gach filed a $40 million lawsuit against a killer sitting on death row. The killer murdered Mary Kate's daughter. But the suit is over shocking Internet postings in which the killer gloats about his crime.

Brian Cabell reports.

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BRIAN CABELL, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Jack Trawick is a convicted killer with a pension for writing about his crimes on the Internet. In a Web site which is now closed down, he wrote about Stephanie Gach who he was convicted of murdering 12 years ago, absolutely no remorse. The attorneys from Gach's family provided postings in which he boasted about the crimes and taunted the victim's family.

(on camera): There are similar sites on the Internet, this one for example is called the cells. This is operated from France. It featured several serial killers and seems to glorify them. Efforts to reach the operator by air time were unsuccessful.

(voice-over): Such Web sites says victim rights advocates, are needlessly cruel and offensive.

NANCY RUNE, PARENTS OF MURDERED CHILDREN: I do believe prisons can control what prisoners send out of prison and should be able to, you know, give some punishment for criminals who revictimize family members.

CABEL: Last year the courts ruled they can post their writing on the Internet. It is their right of free speech.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The courts have said many times offensive speech, the solution is either not to listen to it or engage in counter speech. But we're all better off as a society when free speech is allowed to flourish.

CABEL: That's small constellation for the mother of Stephanie Gach, she filed a lawsuit against Trawick, the prison and Web site designer for intentional infliction of emotional distress, invasion of privacy and libel. The prison incidentally agrees with the complaint and will try to halt Trawick's Internet postings.

Brian Cabell, CNN, Atlanta.

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COOPER: It's an unbelievable story. We weren't able to get in touch with the Web master who posted the killers letters. The murder victim's mother Mary Kate Gach has chosen not to look at the Web page understandably. We have seen. We will not put it on the air. In fact, I'm not going mention this man's name. Frankly, I won't give him anymore attention than he's already got.

Mary Kate Gach and her attorney George Jones III, join us from Montgomery, Alabama. We appreciate both of you being with us. I'm sorry it's under these circumstances, Mary Kate.

The first time you heard they were on the Internet, what went through your mind?

MARY KATE GACH, MURDER VICTIM'S MOTHER: Outrage, anger, confusion. I was stunned. To think that after everything that had happened, tragedy and losing my child and then the long process that I had gone through, that there was one more thing that I was not even on the road map. That I didn't -- I never would have imagined that such a thing as this.

COOPER: Not only that someone would do something like this, although I guess this person is capable of just about anything, but that it would be possible to do this. I mean...

GACH: Yes.

COOPER: Did you know that it might be possible?

GACH: No. No. I think the public is not aware of this. From what I can gather, people don't know about this.

COOPER: Mary Kate, what do you think this person, this man, this killer is getting out of this?

Why is he doing this?

GACH: He wants attention. And he wants to entertain himself. This is why he killed. He's one of those.

COOPER: And when you hear lawyers or people talking about this person has a First Amendment right to say these things, to do whatever he wants on the Internet, what do you think about that?

GACH: I think that they haven't been here, of course, first of all. By the way, most of the people I talk to say he should not -- this should not happen. He should not have these freedoms. He's in prison. He's on death row. He's being punished. And that means harsh treatment and he should not have these freedoms.

COOPER: If it's all right, I'm going to ask your lawyer a question.

George, obviously this man's speech is protected by the first amendment.

What's the lawsuit about?

What are you hoping to do?

GEORGE JONES III, MARY KATE GACH'S ATTORNEY: Well, first, let me say this case is not about controversial speech. It is not about repugnant speech. It is about accepting responsibility for training people to kill. This man intends a portion of what he posted on the Internet to be a training manual for people to go out and commit rape and murder. And you can't just publish anything that you want to and then wave the sword of the First Amendment and say you're not subject to action. He has committed tortious activity against my client by invading her privacy. He's selling souvenirs about the murder, he's making money off of it. He is profiting from it.

COOPER: It is just remarkable.

Mary Kate, just -- if we could just -- I just want to ask you one question before I go about your daughter. I hate to always talk about the villains in all these things.

Just tell us a little bit about your daughter, what was she like?

GACH: She was a college student. She had just passed her 21st birthday. She was looking forward to her life. She was planning it. She was dreaming. She was a normal 21-year-old. And lovely and very idealistic and very caring about injustice in the world. Wanted to do something to make the world better. Someone you would be proud to have as a daughter.

COOPER: Well, her name was Stephanie Gach. She was murder in 1992. And I'm sure she would be proud of you, Mary Kate, tonight. Thank you for being with us. George -- George Jones III, as well, thank you. Bono got away with it. His bad language at the Golden Globes. We'll take it to the "Nth degree."

Plus, a fashion designer, a man you've likely never heard of, but I bet you've seen his work or maybe even wear his clothes. We'll be right back.

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COOPER: Time to check tonight's "Current." Let's see what's going on with in the world of pop culture.

"Taboo" the musical starring Boy George and funded by Rosie O'Donnell will close. That's right, close next month after 100 performances. The show's failure is a huge defeat for O'Donnell but a dramatic victory for the theory that Darwinian notions of natural selection apply not merely to biological evolution but also to social and cultural phenomena. Think about it.

Enrique Iglesias is expecting a bouncing baby uncle. That's right. His 87-year-old grandfather's 40-year-old wife is pregnant. Wrap your brain around that one. April is the due date for the avuncular bundle of joy.

The cast of "Friends" is now in production on their final episode. The plot is very hush-hush. But we can tell you that something happens to justify a spinoff.

Oh, and they're going to stop making "Frasier."

Jessica Simpson is promoting her new line of fragrances and body care products. They're said to be kissable and lickable and they make you smell like the morning dew on a freshly scrubbed nitwit. That's what I'm told.

All right. So you get up in the morning, you get dressed, you go to work and if you are not a model or a millionaire, it is highly unlikely you're ever going to wear designer fashions, right? Not so fast. Take a look.

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COOPER (voice-over): When you think of popular designers, what names come to mind? Ralph Lauren, Calvin Klein, Stan Herman? Who?

It turns out Stan Herman may be the most famous designer you've never heard of. Ever ordered a Big Mac, picked up a Fedex or flown on JetBlue? If so, you've seen a Herman original because Stan Herman is one of the world's top designers of uniforms.

About 33 million Americans workers wear uniforms, and Stan Herman has been designing them for decades. From TWA in the 70s to today's high speed train, the Acela Express. Herman believes there's no reason workers shouldn't look their best.

STAN HERMAN, FASHION DESIGNER: The uniform has to be good. If the uniform is good, then they look their best. If it's not good, they don't care about it. It is a very personal thing. Uniforms are the most personal kind of dressing in the world.

COOPER: Fashion critics are notoriously tough. For Herman, what matters most is what the people who wear his uniforms think.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They cut your figure. The uniform is very sharp. It distinguishes them from the people around them.

COOPER: By year's end, 80,000 Fedex workers can look forward to their first uniform redesign in nearly a decade. And what will they be wearing? Stan Herman, of course.

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And we are very pleased. Stan Herman joins us here. Thanks very much. Nice to meet you. So what do you look for when designing a uniform?

HERMAN: Well, you look for the corporation first. They're the ones who hire you.

COOPER: They tell what colors they want?

HERMAN: Yes, you know, if it's Avis it's red. If it's Fedex, it's purple and orange, if it's JetBlue...

COOPER: But are there times when you say I want a dramatic fashionable uniform and then they say, tone it down a little, Stan.

HERMAN: Most of them listen to me. For instance, if you have, if you do Acela, you've got all the history of Amtrack, hundreds of years, so you have to worry about what they're going to think.

COOPER: We're looking at a shot of UPS versus Fedex. I know you're a little biased because you did the Fedex. What do you think of the UPS uniforms? What's up with the brown?

HERMAN: Listen, I'm quoted as saying I'm a blue guy. This is a blue country. I'm a blue guy. There's nothing wrong with brown. It looks good. Prada does it very well.

COOPER: But not at UPS. Maybe Prada should be UPS.

HERMAN: I would love it.

COOPER: And you're going to be redesigning the Fedex...

HERMAN: Yes. I'm redesigning Fedex for this next decade. We're very excited about it. I'm going around the world with them.

COOPER: And I also understand you have some ideas for an anchor uniform. Because, you know, I hate thinking about what I'm wearing.

HERMAN: Well, they asked me to do an anchor uniform. So what I did was I did five days. First day -- do they have a shot of it? COOPER: There we go.

HERMAN: The first day, it is Monday. People come to work. You have to look nice.

COOPER: So that's me on the left on Monday. Blue tie.

HERMAN: The second day you become more scholarly. The bowtie.

COOPER: A little Tucker Carlson there.

HERMAN: By the third day you are more Mafioso.

COOPER: Mafiosi? You want me to be a little Mafioso? Stan.

HERMAN: What you do is you put the little -- you tuck the little handkerchief, do the Windsor tie twice so that it's a little thicker. DB. You would look good in DB. By the third day, Thursday, everybody...

COOPER: What's DB, by the way?

HERMAN: Double breasted. By the third day you want to be in a sweater, a zip sweater. Very hip, very chic...

COOPER: I heard when Dan Rather wore a sweater, I heard their ratings shot up through the roof a couple years ago.

HERMAN: Andy Williams did that, too. All the big ones. And by the end of the week you are wearing your own clothes, you're wearing cashmere, or you're wearing just...

COOPER: It's sort of (UNINTELLIGIBLE) revisited look there on the right..

HERMAN: Very good.

COOPER: You know, you are a huge success. You also sell clothing on QVC.

HERMAN: Yes, I just celebrated ten years on QVC. I sell my -- at home, my lifestyle.

COOPER: You're the man. Good to meet you.

HERMAN: That was fast.

COOPER: It sure was.

Still coming up, can Bono really say that on TV? Not if the FCC chairman gets his way. And wait till he hears what I have to say about all this when I take it to the "Nth Degree." Please don't write me nasty e-mails. We'll be right back.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) COOPER: Time now for "The Buzz." We asked you, "is a moon-Mars mission worth the multibillion dollar cost?" Here's what you said. 32 percent said yes. 68 percent voted no. Not a scientific poll. Just your buzz. We appreciate you voting.

Tonight, taking bad language, evil language, if you will, back to the Nth degree. Recently we told you about a new FCC ruling that said the singer Bono's use of an expletive on TV last year was OK because he used it as an adjective.

Now, FCC Chairman Michael Powell wants to overturn that ruling. Powell wants a new rule making clear you can't say you're... great let alone you're... your groupies.

And Congressman Doug Ose has introduced a new bill too filthy to even read on TV that would ban not just that word but seven other words and phrases as well. But some curses are tricky. They hide in other words.

For instance, a titmouse saying in the pussy willow tree as I ate a prickly pear with Dick Gephardt and Don Johnson. Disgusting, yes, but still permissible in the new bill. The only way to be sure no curses get on the air is to ban the actual sounds.

Consider this sentence. If a curse of any kind can be uttered in this country, we'll fall into a moral morass wholly of our own making, if you ask me. But if curse sounds were banned, that sentence would be free of curses and thus sound like this.

If a (bleep) of any kind can be uttered in this (bleep), we'll fall into a moral (bleep) of our own making if you (bleep) me.

That's how we and the FCC like our sentences on TV. Inoffensive and squeaky clean.

That wraps up the program tonight. Thanks for watching. Coming up next, "Paul Zahn Now."

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ANDERSON COOPER, HOST (voice-over): The president's ambitious plan to put a man on Mars.

Attacks on Dean intensify as the Iowa hustle heats up.

The Fastows make a deal. Did they bring down the other Enron executives?

Conquering depression: tonight, a therapy that might work for you.

A death row killer taunts his victim's mother in cyber space. Can he be stopped.

And, Armani, Versace, and Stan Herman? He's the man who keeps the masses in uniform.

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ANNOUNCER: Live from the CNN Broadcast Center in New York, this is ANDERSON COOPER 360.

COOPER: And good evening. Thanks for joining us on 360. A lot going on.

If you dare to go out tonight, bundle up in the Northeast, like this person here. I can't even tell if that's a man or a woman. At this hour, in many cities across the region, temperatures are below zero; some places dangerously below zero. We have a live report on the big chill coming up.

But first tonight, our top story: heeded words on the presidential campaign trail. Democratic candidate Richard Gephardt blasting front-runner rival Howard Dean. The latest poll suggests the two are running neck and neck, just five days before the Iowa caucuses.

Senior political correspondent, Candy Crowley, has the latest on the Iowa hustle.

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CANDY CROWLEY, CNN SR. POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Richard Gephardt thinks Howard Dean changed his views on gun control, trade and Medicare to make himself the hit of the party. He did not exactly call him a liar.

REP. RICHARD GEPHARDT (D-MO), DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: To me, there is no room for the cynical politics of manufactured anger and false conviction.

CROWLEY: In a high-stakes struggle for an Iowa first, the gracious gentleman from Missouri let loose. He did not call Dean unelectable, but he walked around the edges.

GEPHARDT: Now we find out he thinks there is an upside to the terrorists running the Palestinian Authority. And we thought George W. Bush was unprepared to be president of the United States.

CROWLEY: Dean, battling to secure his lead over Gephardt in Iowa, was out of state most of Wednesday, trying to push back against a threat to his grip on New Hampshire.

HOWARD DEAN (D), DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I think General Clark is a good guy. But I truly believe he's a Republican.

CROWLEY: Camp Dean also had to sink up Dean's criticism for George Bush for going it alone in Iraq with a 1995 letter Dean wrote to President Clinton urging unilateral action in Bosnia.

DEAN: That's consistent with what I've been saying for a year. I've gone through all the circumstances in which I would use force. One of them is to stop genocide if other world bodies refuse to abide what their obligation is.

CROWLEY: In fact, Dean argued in the letter that international efforts had failed in Bosnia. Still, when you're battling on two fronts, another day on defense is not what the doctor ordered.

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COOPER: It is getting personal almost, Candy. Is this -- I mean, there are those who say, look, this is just politics as usual. Five days to go. This kind of stuff is expected.

CROWLEY: You know, I think there's a lot of truth in that. I mean, it always takes a slightly different form, but I have to tell you, in the last election, when John McCain and George Bush were going at each other in South Carolina, it was pretty bitter.

It does make it more difficult when you say things like this which sort of approach that line. It's going to make it more difficult later, when the party has a nominee, to sort of say -- you know, come up and say, well, I now support him. And then we ask things like, but didn't you say this and didn't you say that? That is more difficult. But in the end, what matters is next Monday, not four months from now.

COOPER: All right. That is where their eyes are focused, next Monday. Candy Crowley, thanks very much for that. We 're going to talk more about this a little later on in the program.

This afternoon, President Bush unveiled the most ambitious plan for space exploration in decades. The goal? The moon and Mars.

CNN senior White House correspondent, John King, reports.

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JOHN KING, CNN SR. WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The president wants man to return to the moon, and then set sight on Mars and beyond.

GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I do not know where this journey will end. Yet we know this: human beings are headed into the cosmos.

KING: The ambitious new mission for the space program includes landing robots on the moon by 2008, a manned lunar mission as early as 2015, a permanent moon base and launch pad, new unmanned missions to Mars and Jupiter's moons, and ultimately a manned mission to Mars in 25 years or so.

BUSH: Mankind is drawn to the heavens for the same reason we are once drawn into unknown lands and across the open sea.

KING: Setting a new course in space became a Bush priority after last year's Shuttle Columbia tragedy, and will require major changes at NASA, urgent work on developing a new space vehicle, completing commitments to the International Space Station, and then retiring the aging shuttle fleet by 2010.

It has been more than 30 years since man walked on the moon. Back then it was a Cold War race. Now, Mr. Bush says other countries are welcome to join what he calls a journey. Critics call it a waste, saying robots like the new Mars Rover are less expensive and more effective than manned mission. Mr. Bush takes issue.

BUSH: We need to see and examine and touch for ourselves. And only human beings are capable of adapting to the inevitable uncertainties posed by space travel.

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KING: Now, here on Earth, one of the big debates will be, can the country afford this at a time of record budget deficits? Mr. Bush says yes. But actually, Anderson, he proposes only a very modest down payment, $12 billion over five years. If all is going well, a president five or six years down the road would face the tougher decision of spending tens and tens of billions more -- Anderson.

COOPER: And a tough decision that would be. John King, at the White House, thanks for that tonight.

We want to hear what you think. Today's "Buzz" question is this: Is a moon and Mars mission worth the multi-billion-dollar cost? What do you think? Vote now, cnn.com/360. We're going to have results at the end of the program. We're already getting a lot of e-mails on this topic. Moving on, another cash request is in the works for President Bush. This one to promote marriage. White House officials say President Bush will seek at least $1.5 bill for training to help couples develop and sustain, "healthy marriages." Administration officials have the support of conservative groups on the proposal. Some groups are pressing the president to go further and request a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage.

Some new developments in the war in Iraq today. Major arrests by American troops today. And a surprising document surfaces written by Saddam Hussein, apparently shedding light on what he thinks are foreign fighters.

CNN's national security correspondent, David Ensor, has the details.

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DAVID ENSOR, CNN NATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The document was captured along with Saddam Hussein, and it was written by him after he lost power, U.S. officials say. It warns his supporters to be cautious about linking up with foreign jihadists and foreigners coming into Iraq to attack American troops.

DAN SENOR, SENIOR ADVISER, U.S. ADMINISTRATION IN IRAQ: While he is not being terribly cooperative, the documents found with him, the information found around him are being helpful.

ENSOR: Senior al Qaeda figures under interrogation have said Osama bin Laden refused their suggestions before the Iraq war to work with Saddam Hussein, according to knowledgeable officials. The former Iraqi leader warning against cooperating too closely with the jihadists is another piece of evidence challenging the Bush administration's assertions before the war about Saddam's ties to terrorist.

BUSH: We know he has ties with al Qaeda. He's got connections with al Qaeda.

ENSOR: U.S. officials do warn against making too much of the Saddam document. They say there is evidence of some limited cooperation against coalition forces in Iraq between Baathist diehards and foreign jihadists, and that not all foreign fighters are Islamic extremists. Meantime, there is more progress against insurgents attacking coalition forces. The arrest of number 54 of the most wanted, Khamis Sirhan al-Muhammad.

BRIG. GEN. MARK KIMMITT, U.S. ARMY SPOKESMAN: He was an enabler for the resistance attacks on Iraqis.

ENSOR: U.S. forces also took in four nephews of the man they most want to find, Saddam's close confidante, Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri.

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ENSOR: Saddam's document is not conclusive evidence his supporters in al Qaeda haven't cooperated much. But it does appear to complicate things for those who are arguing that they have -- Anderson.

COOPER: All right. David Ensor. Didn't think it could get much more complicated, but it seems to have done just that. All right. David, thanks very much, from Washington.

Now, David just mentioned today's capture of Khamis Sirhan al- Muhammad, number 54 on the Iraqi 55 most wanted list, here is a quick fast fact for you about that list. There are 13 people still at large on it. The highest-ranking fugitive is Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri. You just heard David mention him as well. He's the former vice chairman of Iraq's Revolutionary Command Council, number six on the most wanted list.

Freezing, cold weather is sweeping Northeastern states right now. In fact, a reporter from The Associated Press actually found some ice factory workers so cold they were staying in the freezer just to keep warm. That is not a good sign.

CNN's Adaora Udoji has more on the Northeast bitter chill.

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ADAORA UDOJI, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Today it was hard to hide...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's freezing.

UDOJI: ... from the bitter Arctic temperatures along the East Coast. In Maine, that meant seven below zero, which sent a blanket of smoky fog along the shore. The lowest readings? Pittsfield, Massachusetts, a wind chill of minus 31 degrees.

Some simply ran to work. Blocks of ice rose up in Boston Harbor. Still, not everyone complained or wore a jacket.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I would rather the cold than the hot. So this should get us prepared for it.

UDOJI: Not so. Desperate commuters bombarded AAA with calls. Hundreds flocked to stores, couldn't buy heaters fast enough. And in Boston...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Pine Street is on high alert tonight. We're sheltering about 700 men and women.

UDOJI: ... the city's largest homeless shelter was packed. Workers stocked up on blankets to head out and bring people in tonight. They're worried about even colder temperatures forecast for the rest of the week.

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UDOJI: Tomorrow they are forecasting -- some forecasters are saying one degree. And, of course, with the wind chill factor, it's going to be much colder. And just exactly 10 minutes ago, Anderson, we conducted our own little experiment.

We actually cracked an egg on the sidewalk here. We're just trying to get a sense of exactly how close it is. And 10 minutes later, it's actually quite hard. Ice. There it is. Tomorrow and Friday expecting even colder temperatures.

COOPER: Wow. All right. Adaora, I appreciate you standing outside for us. Take your egg, get back inside, get warm. Thanks very much, Adaora.

"Cross Country" now, a number of developing stories we're watching. Let's take a look at what's going on.

Columbus, Ohio: the serial highway shootings. Police link another incident to the string of shootings along Interstate 270. Confirmed, target number 19. A car hit in the hood by a bullet earlier this month. No one was hurt, thankfully.

Moving on to Chicago: partial building cave-in. Take a look at this. You are looking at a thrift store that partially collapsed this afternoon, apparently because of a nearby demolition project. One person suffered minor injuries. It could have been a lot worse.

San Jose, California: pro quarterback's night in jail. San Francisco 49er Jeff Garcia picked up on suspicion of drunk driving last night. He was penalized with a night in the slammer. Garcia faces a court date in early March.

Butler, Pennsylvania: constant reminder. A woman who allegedly drove drunk collided head-on with a car, killed a man, will be forced to carry a picture of him in his casket for the next five years. That is the woman there.

A judge issued that mandate as part of a probation form Jennifer Langston (ph). Her lawyers argued it was cruel and unusual punishment.

New York: greenery at Ground Zero. Architect Michael Arad unveiled some modifications to his plan for the World Trade Center memorial today. Take a look. There it is.

His revised version features a lush forest of trees surrounding the footprint of the twin towers. Initial reactions seem positive. We'll hear more about this coming up.

That's "Cross Country" for you tonight.

Just hours ago, another Enron executive copped a plea. Two key figures now going to jail. Will they turn on their former bosses, however? That is the question. We're going to get the latest.

Plus, our week-long series, "Conquering Depression." Can you find the key to happiness on a therapist's couch?

And moving on, Kobe Bryant on the offense. Fair or foul? His legal team does a full-court press against his alleged victim. We'll have all that and more. But first, let's take a look "Inside the Box" on the top stories on tonight's network newscasts.

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COOPER: Light snow falling here in New York. It's about 14 degrees. Cold all along the Northeast here in the U.S.

Score big one for the government in the Enron scandal today. Just hours ago, former CFO, Andrew Fastow, pled guilty to two felony counts for his role in the energy giant's collapse. He agreed to serve a 10-year prison term and cooperate with authorities. Then, just a short time later, a couple hours ago, Fastow's wife, Lea, former assistant treasurer to Enron, she entered a plea. She will serve a much shorter sentence.

As CNN's Ed Lavandera reports, some families who got burned by Enron's collapse say the court may be kowtowing to a pair of lawbreakers.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let us through, guys. All right. Let us through.

ED LAVANDERA, CNN DALLAS BUREAU CHIEF (voice-over): Andrew Fastow is the so-called mastermind of Enron accounting scandal. Prosecutors expect to use him to topple the last two pillars of Enron's corporate leadership, Jeffrey Skilling and Kenneth Lay. Both of those men say they're innocent.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We wish we could undone that harm, but we can't. What we can do is what the folks involved in this effort have been doing the last two years. And that is to work like crazy to find those responsible and punish them in a way that is just and that also serves as a warning to other morally challenged executives.

LAVANDERA: Fastow's wife, Lea, pled guilty to fraud and will spend five months in prison. Efforts are being made to send the Fastows away at different times so their two young boys aren't left without parents.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm up at about 4:30 just to get here by 7:30.

LAVANDERA: Tom Maderas (ph) doesn't understand why the justice system is working so hard to take care of the Fastow's child care situation. Maderas (ph) lost his job at Enron and most of his savings. Now he spends four hours a day commuting to and from a lower-paying job. And his wife now works, too. He says his children have been left with half a parent.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They only see the Fastows' kids. They're not thinking about the 4,500 other people who also have children that struggle daily. And they're being raised by day care, not by a nanny, not by mommy. LAVANDERA: Maderas (ph) feels no sympathy for the Fastows. He says they should have thought about their children when they were making millions of dollars at Enron.

Ed Lavandera, CNN, Dallas.

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COOPER: Well, tonight, a suburban Atlanta family is trying to cope with a crime seemingly so random, so unexpected, it defies explanation. Last night, a sudden surprise home invasion by a armed man left a 55-year-old father and his 17-year-old son dead in their homes. Their community is devastated.

CNN's Martin Savidge has the latest.

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MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): There was no apparent connection, authorities say, between the gunman who broke into the home and the father and son murdered inside. Fifty-five- year-old Bill Venable apparently struggled with the intruder. His 17- year-old son, Billy, was upstairs with his mother and heard the commotion.

SAM VENABLE, VICTIM'S BROTHER: She said, "Don't go down there." And he did to help his dad. And, of course, he got shot, too. Got killed.

SAVIDGE: The unidentified attacker was also killed a short time later in a shootout with police. The suspect not only broke into the homes of the victims, but into the lives of 1,400 students and faculty at Tucker High School, where Bill Venable was a teacher and also wrestling and football coach. His son was on the football team.

GAIL THOMAS, GRIEF COUNSELOR: If you had walked in the building earlier, you would have seen the state of shock a lot of kids were in, the state of denial.

SAVIDGE: Tucker High sits at the end of Main Street. And one way or another, the principal says, what happens outside of school eventually makes its way inside.

SCOTT BUTLER, PRINCIPAL, TUCKER HIGH SCHOOL: He's been teaching here 16 years, 130 kids a day. Can you imagine how many lives he's touched?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I gave my heart and soul to him for four years, since eight grade, playing football. He was more of a father.

SAVIDGE: But unlike most fathers, Bill and his son not only shared the dinner table, for four years they shared every day at school. As a result, family members say Billy not only gave his heart to his father but apparently also his life.

(END VIDEOTAPE) SAVIDGE: Outside the high school now in Tucker, there is a vigil that is under way. Police haven't said what they think may have triggered this crime. They are still trying to identify the suspect.

Meanwhile, the victims are extremely well known. The coach was teaching in this school district for about 25 years. His son was a high school senior with plans to go to Auburn University this fall -- Anderson.

COOPER: Yes. It is just unthinkable. Martin Savidge, thanks very much for that tonight.

We're tracking number of developing stories right now around the globe. Let's check the "UpLink."

Erez, Gaza: killer mom. A female suicide bomber, 21 years old, mother of two, well, she blue herself up at checkpoint. At least four Israelis killed, 10 people wounded. Two militant groups, Hamas and the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, claimed responsibility for the attack.

Brazil: American pilot arrest, and 10 American Airlines crewmembers detained. Why? Well, you see it there.

They refused to cooperate in the fingerprinting and photographing process. The pilot lifted his middle finger while being photographed. He says it was a joke. He's since apologized.

But the Brazilians weren't laughing. The pilot could face six to 12 months in jail.

And Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam: bird flu. A major fear of chicken right now. The World Health Organization says a bird flu that has raced through chicken farms in Asia killed at least three people in Vietnam. They say it could become a bigger problem for the region than SARS. Officials are scrambling to try to control the outbreak right now.

And that is what's going on with the "UpLink" tonight.

Conquering depression, it is not easy. But some new research has some surprising conclusions about a certain kind of therapy. Could it work for you? Part three of our special series is coming up in just a moment.

Also tonight, a killer online, taunting his victim's mother. You're going to meet the mom fighting to stop this cyber attacker. She joins me live.

And a little bit later on, are the Democrats in disarray, or is what's going on in Iowa just good old-fashioned politics? That is our "Midweek Crisis."

First, today's "Buzz" question. Is a Moon-Mars mission worth the multi-billion-dollar cost? Vote now, cnn.com/360. We'll have results at the end of the program.

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COOPER: Well, tonight we continue our special series, "Conquering depression." Last night we talked about antidepressant medication. Tonight, talk therapy.

In a moment, you're going to hear about a particular kind of therapy that has become increasingly popular. But first, let's look back, a brief analysis of our own on how far we've come since Dr. Freud.

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COOPER (voice-over): Today's therapy is part of American culture. You see it in movies and on TV.

BILLY CRYSTAL, ACTOR, "ANALYZE THIS": Have you been under a lot of stress lately?

ROBERT DE NIRO, ACTOR, "ANALYZE THIS": Like to see your best friend murdered?

CRYSTAL: That would qualify.

DE NIRO: Yes, I've got a lot of stress.

COOPER: But long before there was Frasier there was Freud. The father of psychoanalysis gave us the talking cure, tracing adult psychological problems to repressed childhood experiences, particularly sexual desires. You might even say Freud gave us Woody Allen, who highlighted neuroses in his films.

WOODY ALLEN, ACTOR, "BANANAS": I was a nervous child. I was a bed wetter when I was younger. I used to sleep with an electric blanket and I was constantly electrocuting myself.

COOPER: Freud had apostles who rejected his emphasis on sex as the basis for neuroses. They formed their own schools of analytic thought.

Alfred Adler started individual psychology. He coined the term "inferiority complex." Carl Jung's analytical psychology emphasized symbolism, focusing on the inner self in touch with a collective unconscious.

Karen Horney rebelled against Freud's view of femininity. Penis envy? Not a chance. She created the idea of basic anxiety, the feeling of being small and insignificant, helpless and endangered.

Behavioral therapy evolved from the insights of B.F. Skinner, who believed we're all products of our own environment.

Now, there's cognitive therapy, a more active approach to change, focusing more on the present instead of the past. And, of course, today, most popular of all, there is TV. You might call it couch potato therapy. Not very effective, but free psychological advice on almost every channel. DR. PHIL: You need to stop indulging yourself and get back in the game.

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COOPER: You need to stop doing that.

There are a lot of treatment options out there, of course, if you're depressed. But new research suggests that cognitive behavioral therapy may be among the most effective forms of talk therapy for people fighting depression.

Just a short time ago, I spoke with Jeffrey Young, noted psychologist and director of the Cognitive Therapy Center in New York. I started by asking him how cognitive therapy is different than other kinds of therapy.

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DR. JEFFREY YOUNG, DIRECTOR, COGNITIVE THERAPY CENTER, NEW YORK: We're teaching self-help skills the patient can use to get better on their own. And most therapies, they try to provide insight, understanding, but they don't actually give the patient tools they can use to actually get out of the depression.

COOPER: So you are not talking about dream analysis and what happened in your childhood. You're talking more about sort of skill sets for every day living now?

YOUNG: Right. Like how to change the way you're thinking about things, how to change your actual behavior right now. Not where did it come from, not why you're doing it. But just let's -- here are some techniques for change.

COOPER: Don't you have to know some of what happened in the past and why you might be doing something in order to change it now?

YOUNG: If you deal with chronic depression, which are people who have been depressed most of their lives, the therapy has to be altered. And it is very helpful then to look back in the past.

COOPER: I understand you actually give homework assignments to your patients. How does that work? Give me an example.

YOUNG: Right. Well, typically, the most common one, a daily mood log. Whenever they start feeling upset, sad, anxious, they take the sheet out. And it has different columns on it.

And at first, they fill out what was the event. Like, say, it might be a female patient, where her boyfriend didn't call her that night even though he was supposed to. Then the next column she writes down what she's feeling when he doesn't call her. So she might say, sad and anxious.

Then in the next column, we say, what are your automatic thoughts? What are you thinking to yourself? And she might say, he doesn't love me anymore. He wants to break up with me.

Then in the last column, they have to come up with a healthy answer, which is what the therapist helps them to do. Something like, my boyfriend hasn't called many times before. He always stays with me. He loves me.

I have no other signs. And for me to jump to this conclusion is just part of my depression.

COOPER: I've read some of the research, and the results seem pretty encouraging. I mean, there was just an article in the "Wall Street Journal" about a new study that was done. I guess it was published just last week in which the relapse rate of patients who were on antidepressant medication was 60 to 80 percent, I believe. If they stopped within a year, they might relapse into depression.

But with cognitive therapy, the relapse rate was only something like 25, 30 percent, was it?

YOUNG: Exactly. That's right, Anderson. And I think that's a very important difference, because a lot of people, they go only for medication because they know they can get better quickly. But what they don't realize is, when they go off the medication, the chances are, as you just said, 75 to 80 percent that within a year they will become depressed again.

So, basically, the medication doesn't in any way prevent future depressions. Whereas with cognitive therapy, we're actually teaching them skills, which even when the therapy is over, like those homework assignments, they can keep doing them. So when they start to get depressed again, they can start using the same skills and start doing...

COOPER: So it's not necessarily therapy that takes years and years and years?

YOUNG: No. Typically, it is 15 to 20 sessions of therapy. So it's actually a very short-term therapy.

COOPER: All right. Jeff, thanks very much.

YOUNG: Thank you, Anderson.

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COOPER: And for more information on depression, you can contact the National Institute of Mental Health toll free at 1-866-615-6464, or you can log on to its Web site at www.nimh.gov.

Our series, "Conquering Depression." continues tomorrow night, with a look at the young and hopeless, the fight against teenage depression. We're going to talk with the band Good Charlotte, who are reaching out to young people in need, telling them to hold on through their music.

Then on Friday, we wrap up the series with a special look at men and depression. Why are men often called depression's silent sufferers?

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COOPER (voice-over): Why Kobe Bryant's case may hinge on what's inside sealed medical records.

Our "Midweek Crisis." As Iowa heats up, are the Democrats in disarray?

And, do you know this man? He's the most famous designer you probably never heard of.

We'll be right back.

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COOPER: Coming up next on 360, Democrats turning on each other. Is it democracy in action or a party deeply divided?

Plus, Kobe Bryant's offensive. Is the mental history of his alleged victim fair game? We're going to take a closer look.

And a death row killer running free online. A victim's mother tries to pull the plug on her daughter's killer. She joins us live.

But first, let's look at other top stories in "The Reset."

Washington back to space. President Bush wants the U.S. to go back to the moon and then on to planet Mars. He announced his plans hours ago including a manned Lunar landing by 2015, permanent moon base and a manned mission to Mars by 2030.

Iraq, soldiers suicide. One in every 7 soldiers, whose death in Iraq is classified nonhostile has committed suicide. That, according to the Pentagon, which announced plans to today to try to combat the rising numbers. At least 21 troops have committed suicide since March of last year.

The Supreme Court: defending detainees. Pentagon lawyers are now defending the right of al Qaeda detainee being held at Gitmo. They filed a friend of the court brief saying it is unconstitutional for detainees convicted by military tribunals to be denied appeals in civilian court.

Columbus Ohio: highway shootings one more time. This story is not going away. Another car struck by a bullet on interstate 270. And the police link it to the 18 other attacks. No one was hurt, but the gun fire cracked a car's windshield. They don't know who's doing it.

That's tonight's "Reset."

With the Iowa caucuses just five days away now, the Democratic candidates and, by extension, the Democratic Party are facing a two- tiered crisis, an ongoing crisis that's also our midweek crisis.

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COOPER (voice-over): It's hard this early in the political season to tell how serious this crisis will be, but Democrats seem unusually divided right now, not just on issues, but in how they campaign.

HOWARD DEAN, (D) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I'm going after everybody, because I'm tired of being the pin cushion.

COOPER: Maybe because he took the lead so unexpectedly or because he's rejecting Clinton's formulas or because his rep as a straight talker, Howard Dean has been a pin cushion.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, I think Howard Dean should take his tax hiking, government expanding, latte drinking...

COOPER: The fights are getting brutal in commercials, even face to face.

AL SHARPTON, (D) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: It seems as though you discovered blacks and browns during this campaign.

CAROL MOSELEY BRAUN, (D) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I don't mean to pick on you. I know Howard Dean can take up for himself. But the fact of the matter is, the "Congressional Quarterly," says you voted with President Bush 53 percent of the time, you voted for the Patriot Act, you voted to deploy the missile defense system. And yet you stand up here and call up here and call Howard a hypocrite.

COOPER: The question is, will the current crisis ultimately demolish or toughen the nominee?

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COOPER: And, of course, we don't know the answer to that question for a while, but it doesn't mean we can't talk about it right now. Joining me from Los Angeles, we have political analyst, Carlos Watson. And in D.C., Democratic strategist, Julian Epstein. Appreciate both of you joining us.

Julian, let me start off with you. In Iowa, personal attacks, Gephardt almost calling Dean a liar, coming close to it. For a lot of outsiders, it is exciting to watch, but is it really good for the Democratic party?

JULIAN EPSTEIN, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: No, it's not good for the Democratic Party. And you can be sure that Republicans will use many of these tactics against whoever the nominee is. There's really -- Carlos pointed this out last night. Negative campaigning is as much a part of American politics as baseball is part of the culture. We can think back to the Bush versus McCain, we can think back, as Carlos pointed out last night, Clinton's-Tsongas, Carter and Kennedy, Ford and Reagan. The real question is, are these negative attacks effective. And secondly, are they over the top? I think, in terms of the effectiveness, clearly with the surge in the candidacies of Edwards and Clark, I think the evidence is pretty clear that they're not that effective.

And whether they're over the top is the second question. And Gephardt's attack, really on Dean today, calling him essentially a liar, in his campaign calling him a liar, I think is not going to be effective for Gephardt. And shows that Gephardt's candidacy is really a candidacy that's moving into a desperation phase.

COOPER: Let me jump in here. Carlos, I know you think this is sort of more politics as usual, not quite as critical of this as Julian is. But do you think these attacks, this sort of divergence of ideas is reflective of deeper divisions within the Democratic party?

CARLOS WATSON, POLITICAL ANALYST: I think in many ways you see a new Democratic party emerging. And again, maybe I will take a step back and say that I consider these attack and the negative campaign not only to be business as usual, but probably a six on a scale of ten. Much more devisive was Bush-McCain in 2000. And even more divisive was 1968, we saw a split convention.

But going forward, what will this do to the party? I actually think the new party 's merging. You see Howard Dean bringing new people to the polls. And you actually hear a lot of people, for all of the bitterness that's going on, you hear a lot of people saying they expect a record turnout in Iowa Monday.

COOPER: I got to jump in here thought. Because let me show you results from this Pew Center (ph) survey. And I'd like to get Julian in on this. Carlos is calling this the new Democratic party, but when you compare it to the Republicans on issues, very divided. In Republican support for the war, 85 percent say yes, Democrats: 39 percent to 54 percent.

If you look at other issues like preemptive war justified, do people think so? Republicans, 82 percent yes, Democrats pretty much split.

Julian, I've got to ask you again, are Democrats sort of hopelessly divided or, at least, is this going to hurt them going into this election?

EPSTEIN: I think you have to call a spade a spade. Look, Democrats are as divided, particularly over the unique issue of the Iraqi war, than I've ever seen them divided on any issue.

They are a party that's often divided, a house that's often divided freuently, because of the demographic nature. I think the party is ideologically more diverse, demographically more diverse than the Republicans. So you expect some amount of division. Iraq is a nuclear bomb in terms of that division, however.

The other thing that's most interesting, if you compare what the Republicans were able to do in 2000, the establishment was essentially, able to annoint the candidacy of George Bush. Here the establishment wants a candidate other than Dean. And the establishment has been unable to do that.

So, I think, these are very trying times for Democrats. But the point, in response to Carlos is, he would call it a six on a scale of one to ten, the difference between this and the Bush-McCain race, is that the negative campaigning has gone on for longer.

The second point is that one of the front-runners in Iowa today is a candidate known as undecideded. And the undecideds and the independents clearly, in all the poll data shows this, are being very turned off by negative campaigning. So I think the Gephardt strategy is a misfire.

COOPER: Final thought, Carlos.

WATSON: To put all this in perspective, Richard Gephardt is not just fighting to win in Iowa, he literally is fighting for his political life. He's been in office for 27 years. And as Julian has said before, if he losses Monday, he doesn't just step out of the race, he steps out of politics. So expect more bitter campaigning, not less, like it or not.

EPSTEIN: Yes, but Anderson, final point, if you got a second.

COOPER: I already -- take it.

EPSTEIN: The notion of going after Dean -- Gephardt going after Dean is nuts. The people that Gephardt ought to be going after are the independents and the centrists. Shooting at Dean right now is a real mistake. That's why Edwards is moving up. Real mistake on the part of Gephardt.

COOPER: All right. Leave it at there. Julian Epstein, Carlos Watson good to talk to you. Thanks very much. Got a lot in.

The Iowa Caucuses aren't always the best predictor of who will win the party's nomination. A quick news note for you, 1980, George H.W. Bush wins Iowa, but the nomination goes to Ronald Reagan. 1988 Bob Dole tops the Iowa Caucuses but loses the GOP to then Vice- President Bush. Finally in 1992, Iowan Tom Harkin wins in a landslide, but the nomination goes to Arkansas governor, Bill Clinton, who only received 2.8 percent of the vote in Iowa.

Well, justice served now. NBA star, Kobe Bryant's, defense team wants his jury to see the medical records of the woman accused of -- accusing him of rape. Bryant's lawyers say she's bi-polar, depressed and that may explain why -- what they call "her false accusation."

Court TV anchor, Lisa Bloom is on the case for us. Lisa, good to see you.

LISA BLOOM, COURT TV: Hi.

COOPER: Should they be able to open up these records? Should the jury be able to see them?

BLOOM: First of all, I've read both the prosecution and the defense papers. The defense argues, essentially, that because she's bi-polar she has no credibility. That's a big leap that I don't think is established in their papers. They are going to have to prove to the satisfaction to the Judge.

There's about 2 million people who are bi-polar. You're doing this wonderful special on depression all week. Bi-polar disorder is, essentially manic depression. Depression doesn't correlate in any way with psychosis, with delusions, with hallucinations, that's what they're going to need to show.

COOPER: Right, but the defense is saying, look, if she has some sort of track record of unusual behavior, of behavior involving sex, maybe that has some sort of impact on this case.

BLOOM: But wait a second. Unusual behavior, behavior involving sex. Now, we're getting into rape shield laws, if we're talking about her sexual history. That's protected.

They have to show a clear link between some problem with her credibility, hallucinating. Does she see things, does she make things up? That's psychotic behavior, that's not bi-polar disorder. That's the link they're going to have to show to the satisfaction of the judge.

COOPER: Do you think the judge is going to rule that this can be shown to the jury?

BLOOM: Hard to say, because the prosecution's papers are filed mostly under seal, so it is hard to know what their argument is. The defense paper not under seal, I think they want the media to see it, they want the media to get the idea that she's this crazy, lunatic sex addict so we'll talk about it and she'll be defamed.

COOPER: It's interesting, the defense actually pointed to, as proof that this woman is bi-polar, which we do not know this, the defense pointed...

BLOOM: Statement of her boyfriend on "The Today Show." And isn't that a wonderful example of the co-dependent dance between the media and lawyers now in high profile cases?

COOPER: Well, what is the lesson in that? Don't have your friends talk on TV?

BLOOM: The lesson is, we're watching them and they're watching us. The lawyers are watching the media. Witnesses are giving their first testimony, in a sense, to the media, going on these shows and talking about the case. He was trying to help her. He lets one word slip, bi-polar, we got a 20 page brief now...

COOPER: Do you think they're intimating that basically she asked for it?

BLOOM: That she asked to be rape?

COOPER: Yes. Do you think the defense is intimating that?

BLOOM: No.

COOPER: Yes. Not that she -- but she -- but yes, in effect.

BLOOM: I think they're saying she asked for sex and, therefore, perhaps she couldn't deny consent. But no means no at any point, that's the law very clearly. And look, she conceded, she went into the room voluntarily, she flirted with him, she wanted to kiss him. But at some point she said no. And that that's enforceable.

COOPER: All right, we'll see. Lisa Bloom, thanks very much.

BLOOM: Thanks.

COOPER: Well, convicted killer taunts the family of one of his victim from death row, no less. Find out how. It's all happening, coming up.

Bono didn't get in trouble for swearing at the Golden Globes, but watch out, the FCC is talking about cracking down.

Just ahead, bad language to the "Nth Degree."

You're going to meet man behind fashion for workers out there, a lot Americans. We'll be right back.

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Just hours ago, a woman named Mary Kate Gach filed a $40 million lawsuit against a killer sitting on death row. The killer murdered Mary Kate's daughter. But the suit is over shocking Internet postings in which the killer gloats about his crime.

Brian Cabell reports.

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BRIAN CABELL, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Jack Trawick is a convicted killer with a pension for writing about his crimes on the Internet. In a Web site which is now closed down, he wrote about Stephanie Gach who he was convicted of murdering 12 years ago, absolutely no remorse. The attorneys from Gach's family provided postings in which he boasted about the crimes and taunted the victim's family.

(on camera): There are similar sites on the Internet, this one for example is called the cells. This is operated from France. It featured several serial killers and seems to glorify them. Efforts to reach the operator by air time were unsuccessful.

(voice-over): Such Web sites says victim rights advocates, are needlessly cruel and offensive.

NANCY RUNE, PARENTS OF MURDERED CHILDREN: I do believe prisons can control what prisoners send out of prison and should be able to, you know, give some punishment for criminals who revictimize family members.

CABEL: Last year the courts ruled they can post their writing on the Internet. It is their right of free speech.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The courts have said many times offensive speech, the solution is either not to listen to it or engage in counter speech. But we're all better off as a society when free speech is allowed to flourish.

CABEL: That's small constellation for the mother of Stephanie Gach, she filed a lawsuit against Trawick, the prison and Web site designer for intentional infliction of emotional distress, invasion of privacy and libel. The prison incidentally agrees with the complaint and will try to halt Trawick's Internet postings.

Brian Cabell, CNN, Atlanta.

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COOPER: It's an unbelievable story. We weren't able to get in touch with the Web master who posted the killers letters. The murder victim's mother Mary Kate Gach has chosen not to look at the Web page understandably. We have seen. We will not put it on the air. In fact, I'm not going mention this man's name. Frankly, I won't give him anymore attention than he's already got.

Mary Kate Gach and her attorney George Jones III, join us from Montgomery, Alabama. We appreciate both of you being with us. I'm sorry it's under these circumstances, Mary Kate.

The first time you heard they were on the Internet, what went through your mind?

MARY KATE GACH, MURDER VICTIM'S MOTHER: Outrage, anger, confusion. I was stunned. To think that after everything that had happened, tragedy and losing my child and then the long process that I had gone through, that there was one more thing that I was not even on the road map. That I didn't -- I never would have imagined that such a thing as this.

COOPER: Not only that someone would do something like this, although I guess this person is capable of just about anything, but that it would be possible to do this. I mean...

GACH: Yes.

COOPER: Did you know that it might be possible?

GACH: No. No. I think the public is not aware of this. From what I can gather, people don't know about this.

COOPER: Mary Kate, what do you think this person, this man, this killer is getting out of this?

Why is he doing this?

GACH: He wants attention. And he wants to entertain himself. This is why he killed. He's one of those.

COOPER: And when you hear lawyers or people talking about this person has a First Amendment right to say these things, to do whatever he wants on the Internet, what do you think about that?

GACH: I think that they haven't been here, of course, first of all. By the way, most of the people I talk to say he should not -- this should not happen. He should not have these freedoms. He's in prison. He's on death row. He's being punished. And that means harsh treatment and he should not have these freedoms.

COOPER: If it's all right, I'm going to ask your lawyer a question.

George, obviously this man's speech is protected by the first amendment.

What's the lawsuit about?

What are you hoping to do?

GEORGE JONES III, MARY KATE GACH'S ATTORNEY: Well, first, let me say this case is not about controversial speech. It is not about repugnant speech. It is about accepting responsibility for training people to kill. This man intends a portion of what he posted on the Internet to be a training manual for people to go out and commit rape and murder. And you can't just publish anything that you want to and then wave the sword of the First Amendment and say you're not subject to action. He has committed tortious activity against my client by invading her privacy. He's selling souvenirs about the murder, he's making money off of it. He is profiting from it.

COOPER: It is just remarkable.

Mary Kate, just -- if we could just -- I just want to ask you one question before I go about your daughter. I hate to always talk about the villains in all these things.

Just tell us a little bit about your daughter, what was she like?

GACH: She was a college student. She had just passed her 21st birthday. She was looking forward to her life. She was planning it. She was dreaming. She was a normal 21-year-old. And lovely and very idealistic and very caring about injustice in the world. Wanted to do something to make the world better. Someone you would be proud to have as a daughter.

COOPER: Well, her name was Stephanie Gach. She was murder in 1992. And I'm sure she would be proud of you, Mary Kate, tonight. Thank you for being with us. George -- George Jones III, as well, thank you. Bono got away with it. His bad language at the Golden Globes. We'll take it to the "Nth degree."

Plus, a fashion designer, a man you've likely never heard of, but I bet you've seen his work or maybe even wear his clothes. We'll be right back.

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COOPER: Time to check tonight's "Current." Let's see what's going on with in the world of pop culture.

"Taboo" the musical starring Boy George and funded by Rosie O'Donnell will close. That's right, close next month after 100 performances. The show's failure is a huge defeat for O'Donnell but a dramatic victory for the theory that Darwinian notions of natural selection apply not merely to biological evolution but also to social and cultural phenomena. Think about it.

Enrique Iglesias is expecting a bouncing baby uncle. That's right. His 87-year-old grandfather's 40-year-old wife is pregnant. Wrap your brain around that one. April is the due date for the avuncular bundle of joy.

The cast of "Friends" is now in production on their final episode. The plot is very hush-hush. But we can tell you that something happens to justify a spinoff.

Oh, and they're going to stop making "Frasier."

Jessica Simpson is promoting her new line of fragrances and body care products. They're said to be kissable and lickable and they make you smell like the morning dew on a freshly scrubbed nitwit. That's what I'm told.

All right. So you get up in the morning, you get dressed, you go to work and if you are not a model or a millionaire, it is highly unlikely you're ever going to wear designer fashions, right? Not so fast. Take a look.

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COOPER (voice-over): When you think of popular designers, what names come to mind? Ralph Lauren, Calvin Klein, Stan Herman? Who?

It turns out Stan Herman may be the most famous designer you've never heard of. Ever ordered a Big Mac, picked up a Fedex or flown on JetBlue? If so, you've seen a Herman original because Stan Herman is one of the world's top designers of uniforms.

About 33 million Americans workers wear uniforms, and Stan Herman has been designing them for decades. From TWA in the 70s to today's high speed train, the Acela Express. Herman believes there's no reason workers shouldn't look their best.

STAN HERMAN, FASHION DESIGNER: The uniform has to be good. If the uniform is good, then they look their best. If it's not good, they don't care about it. It is a very personal thing. Uniforms are the most personal kind of dressing in the world.

COOPER: Fashion critics are notoriously tough. For Herman, what matters most is what the people who wear his uniforms think.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They cut your figure. The uniform is very sharp. It distinguishes them from the people around them.

COOPER: By year's end, 80,000 Fedex workers can look forward to their first uniform redesign in nearly a decade. And what will they be wearing? Stan Herman, of course.

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And we are very pleased. Stan Herman joins us here. Thanks very much. Nice to meet you. So what do you look for when designing a uniform?

HERMAN: Well, you look for the corporation first. They're the ones who hire you.

COOPER: They tell what colors they want?

HERMAN: Yes, you know, if it's Avis it's red. If it's Fedex, it's purple and orange, if it's JetBlue...

COOPER: But are there times when you say I want a dramatic fashionable uniform and then they say, tone it down a little, Stan.

HERMAN: Most of them listen to me. For instance, if you have, if you do Acela, you've got all the history of Amtrack, hundreds of years, so you have to worry about what they're going to think.

COOPER: We're looking at a shot of UPS versus Fedex. I know you're a little biased because you did the Fedex. What do you think of the UPS uniforms? What's up with the brown?

HERMAN: Listen, I'm quoted as saying I'm a blue guy. This is a blue country. I'm a blue guy. There's nothing wrong with brown. It looks good. Prada does it very well.

COOPER: But not at UPS. Maybe Prada should be UPS.

HERMAN: I would love it.

COOPER: And you're going to be redesigning the Fedex...

HERMAN: Yes. I'm redesigning Fedex for this next decade. We're very excited about it. I'm going around the world with them.

COOPER: And I also understand you have some ideas for an anchor uniform. Because, you know, I hate thinking about what I'm wearing.

HERMAN: Well, they asked me to do an anchor uniform. So what I did was I did five days. First day -- do they have a shot of it? COOPER: There we go.

HERMAN: The first day, it is Monday. People come to work. You have to look nice.

COOPER: So that's me on the left on Monday. Blue tie.

HERMAN: The second day you become more scholarly. The bowtie.

COOPER: A little Tucker Carlson there.

HERMAN: By the third day you are more Mafioso.

COOPER: Mafiosi? You want me to be a little Mafioso? Stan.

HERMAN: What you do is you put the little -- you tuck the little handkerchief, do the Windsor tie twice so that it's a little thicker. DB. You would look good in DB. By the third day, Thursday, everybody...

COOPER: What's DB, by the way?

HERMAN: Double breasted. By the third day you want to be in a sweater, a zip sweater. Very hip, very chic...

COOPER: I heard when Dan Rather wore a sweater, I heard their ratings shot up through the roof a couple years ago.

HERMAN: Andy Williams did that, too. All the big ones. And by the end of the week you are wearing your own clothes, you're wearing cashmere, or you're wearing just...

COOPER: It's sort of (UNINTELLIGIBLE) revisited look there on the right..

HERMAN: Very good.

COOPER: You know, you are a huge success. You also sell clothing on QVC.

HERMAN: Yes, I just celebrated ten years on QVC. I sell my -- at home, my lifestyle.

COOPER: You're the man. Good to meet you.

HERMAN: That was fast.

COOPER: It sure was.

Still coming up, can Bono really say that on TV? Not if the FCC chairman gets his way. And wait till he hears what I have to say about all this when I take it to the "Nth Degree." Please don't write me nasty e-mails. We'll be right back.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) COOPER: Time now for "The Buzz." We asked you, "is a moon-Mars mission worth the multibillion dollar cost?" Here's what you said. 32 percent said yes. 68 percent voted no. Not a scientific poll. Just your buzz. We appreciate you voting.

Tonight, taking bad language, evil language, if you will, back to the Nth degree. Recently we told you about a new FCC ruling that said the singer Bono's use of an expletive on TV last year was OK because he used it as an adjective.

Now, FCC Chairman Michael Powell wants to overturn that ruling. Powell wants a new rule making clear you can't say you're... great let alone you're... your groupies.

And Congressman Doug Ose has introduced a new bill too filthy to even read on TV that would ban not just that word but seven other words and phrases as well. But some curses are tricky. They hide in other words.

For instance, a titmouse saying in the pussy willow tree as I ate a prickly pear with Dick Gephardt and Don Johnson. Disgusting, yes, but still permissible in the new bill. The only way to be sure no curses get on the air is to ban the actual sounds.

Consider this sentence. If a curse of any kind can be uttered in this country, we'll fall into a moral morass wholly of our own making, if you ask me. But if curse sounds were banned, that sentence would be free of curses and thus sound like this.

If a (bleep) of any kind can be uttered in this (bleep), we'll fall into a moral (bleep) of our own making if you (bleep) me.

That's how we and the FCC like our sentences on TV. Inoffensive and squeaky clean.

That wraps up the program tonight. Thanks for watching. Coming up next, "Paul Zahn Now."

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