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John Paul II Hospitalized; Kidnapping Photograph Exposed as Hoax

Aired February 01, 2005 - 19:00   ET

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HEIDI COLLINS, HOST: Good evening from New York, everyone. I'm Heidi Collins. Anderson is on assignment tonight.
Pope John Paul II hospitalized.

360 starts right now.

The pontiff rushed to a Rome hospital with breathing trouble after a four-day bout of the flu. We'll have the latest on his condition.

The image of a soldier, bound and held at gunpoint, exposed as a hoax. The GI, just a toy. Who's behind the sick joke?

The judge in the case against Michael Jackson says he's seen enough. The jury pool is chosen.

Laura Bush speaks out about the Iraq vote, tomorrow's State of the Union address, and her changing role in the White House.

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LAURA BUSH, FIRST LADY: The first lady has a podium if she chooses to use it. And I think that's what I've come to find out.

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COLLINS: Candy Crowley one on one with the first lady.

And our special series, Conquering Depression. Tonight, the depressed body, how the disease takes its physical toll and the diet you can use to fight back.

ANNOUNCER: Live from the CNN Broadcast Center in New York, this is ANDERSON COOPER 360.

COLLINS: We begin tonight with breaking news out of the Vatican. Pope John Paul II has been taken to the hospital. The 84-year-old pontiff, who has been in poor health for some time now, is said to be suffering from an acute infection of the respiratory tract.

We also know the Vatican says the hospitalization was, quote, "urgently needed."

CNN's Rome bureau chief, Alessio Vinci, joins us now live from the CNN bureau in Rome.

Alessio, tell us, if you could, what is the very latest on the pope's condition as you know it?

ALESSIO VINCI, CNN ROME BUREAU CHIEF: Heidi, the very latest that we know is what the Vatican has been telling reporters at the Giamelli (ph) Hospital here in Rome, and that is, the pope is suffering from acute respiratory infection.

It is, of course, a worsening condition to what the Vatican had originally said this morning and last night, that the pope had simply developed mild symptoms of the flu. Obviously the condition worsening very quickly in the last 24 hours, leading both Vatican officials as well as physicians to the conclusion that the pope had to be hospitalized urgently in order to go through some medical checks.

Now, we do understand from Vatican sources that the pope is not in intensive care unit. He is going through some medical checks at this time, including some X-rays. Now, the pope, who we last saw in public on Sunday, did speak with a hoarse voice, leading many here observers to believe that indeed his only medical condition was at that time a mild flu.

But this sudden hospitalization so late tonight leaves many observers here to believe that the condition of the pope is somewhat worse than originally anticipated. And therefore, the Vatican officials, as well as his physician, really believed that it was the time for the pope to go through the medical checks at the Giamelli hospital, Heidi.

COLLINS: Yes, I mean, everyone very concerned, obviously, Alessio. We have seen and heard some of the video from Sunday and heard his voice and how very hoarse it was. Your impressions of his appearance on Sunday?

VINCI: Well, my impression was that indeed, he did have this hoarse voice, which led many at first to think that his condition had really worsened. Then the Vatican issued a statement on Monday saying that the pope had developed this -- simply this flu.

Now, what also I noticed, however, is that despite the fact that he had this hoarse voice, his body language was also had -- you know, you also look at his body language. He looked very aware (UNINTELLIGIBLE) of what was going on around him.

The pope has suffers from a series of ailments, so we are used to see him in poor health. But his condition appeared to be better, if you want, compared to, say, a year ago, when the pope took several trips to Slovakia and Bulgaria, for example. So the pope really looked -- and his -- you know, looked with a, with -- you know, had a hoarse voice. But his body was there, his language was -- his body language was actually receptive, and therefore we didn't believe that the pope was really had anything serious either than just the flu back then.

COLLINS: Well, quickly, Alessio, I know that you have covered the pope for some time. How forthcoming is the Vatican normally about the condition of the pope?

VINCI: Well, usually, not very forthcoming. As a matter of fact, the Vatican has not even acknowledged the fact that the pope suffers from Parkinson's disease. I must say, however, that in the last few days, the Vatican officials and the Vatican spokesmen have been quite forthcoming in releasing information that the pope had the flu, and now this very specific (UNINTELLIGIBLE) diagnosis of acute respiratory infection.

So we have to see in the coming days how this develops. But generally speaking, the Vatican is not very happy in releasing information about the pope's health. But this time, the situation could be quite different.

COLLINS: Yes, very protective indeed. All right. Alessio Vinci, thanks so much, coming to us from our CNN bureau in Rome tonight. Alessio, thanks.

Want to move on now. As you know, the pope suffers from a number of chronic conditions, including Parkinson's disease. He is 84 years old.

And Dr. Sanjay Gupta is joining us now to talk more about his health.

Sanjay, good evening to you.

As we just mentioned, the pope is 84 years old. How could an acute respiratory infection and the flu affect someone at his age?

SANJAY GUPTA, CNN SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes, Heidi, I mean, the flu in an 84-year-old's going to be very different than the flu in most people. Most people think the flu is not that serious. But remember, the flu kills 36,000 people alone every year or so. It's can be a very serious problem.

The fact that he has so many other significant medical problems on top of that certainly makes him a larger candidate to have some poor consequences as a result of the flu.

Couple of things they pointed out already. You can see some of his past medical history there. They called it the flu first, now calling it an acute respiratory infection. The terms are important here, the language is important, Heidi, when it comes to medically talking about him, specifically because the flu typically is a viral illness.

If he's developed an acute respiratory infection, what that typically means is that he might have actually had a chest x-ray which showed some changes as well, which could mean the early sort of pneumonia, which is very concerning, obviously, in anybody, but especially in 84-year-old.

It's going to be hard to say right now. Very few details coming out, obviously, in the hospital for a short amount of time now. As Alessio mentioned just now, he's not in the intensive care unit as of yet, but I imagine that he probably will go there for observation, if nothing else, Heidi.

COLLINS: Let's talk also, Sanjay, as you mentioned, the Parkinson's disease and other ailments that the pope has. Could these affect also affect his immune system and his overall health, meaning, you know, how well he could fight something off like this type of infection?

GUPTA: Yes, I mean, if you look at the pope's medical history, obviously, when he, you know, in 1978, when he first became pope, he was the picture of health, really. Over the last 25, 27 years now, things have changed pretty considerably.

Remember, just reflecting back on his medical history now, if you go back to 1981, he had a gunshot at that time actually to the abdomen and the chest. He's had an intestinal tumor removed. His gallbladder was removed. He had a dislocated right shoulder. Most people remember him 2004, most recently, in a very seriously weakened state. And again, some of the images we've seen over the last couple of days.

The Parkinson's disease in and of itself, people typically associate with movement disorders. That's going to be some of the early stages of Parkinson's. What can happen, though, to someone as they develop Parkinson's for a long period of time, it can start to affect things like blood pressure, it can affect his ability to stand on his own. He can have dips in blood pressure that can be pretty significant, can lead to someone feeling faint, passing out, which could be why he has different changes of state when you see him from one time to the next.

But certainly, all these medical problems can add to this, Heidi.

COLLINS: All right. Dr. Sanjay Gupta tonight, Sanjay...

GUPTA: Thank you.

COLLINS: ... thanks for the medical expertise, as always.

Pope John Paul II has been the head of the Roman Catholic Church since 1978. And over the last 27 years, the pontiff has traveled the world over. Nearly 20 million pilgrims have participated in his general audiences at the Vatican.

And more on this legacy now, let's return to the CNN bureau in Rome, where we're joined by CNN Vatican analyst John Allen.

John, good evening to you there.

Want to ask you, quickly, how unusual is it for the pope to actually be taken to the hospital?

JOHN ALLEN, CNN VATICAN ANALYST: Well, it's quite unusual. You know, for one thing, routine medical care would be provided to the pope typically in his apartment. He has a private physician who is essentially a -- his full-time specialty is taking care of the pope. And there's even actually a small dental studio for the papal apartments. So for the pope actually to go to the hospital is an unusual thing, although he has gone to Rome's Giamelli Hospital on a number of occasions, as Sanjay was just saying for surgical interventions.

It's even more rare for him to be rushed there unexpectedly in the middle of the night, which is essentially what happened in this case. So that would certainly indicate to us that something serious is going on.

And on the other hand, you know, there is a probably huge note of caution that's is in order here, which is that this is a man who has shown a remarkable resilience over the years and has outlived a whole slew of previous scares about his health.

And his underlying condition, according to his doctors and his closest aides, that is, things like his diet, his sleep pattern, his circulation, his blood pressure, all of that continues to be in relatively good shape. And in fact, earlier this morning, the Vatican's project was working on trying to schedule a meeting between the pope and Condoleezza Rice for next week.

So there's no indication that anyone inside the Vatican expects anything other than he will pull out of this and return to work.

COLLINS: Well, I, you know, we keep mentioning that he's 84 years old, and that he has also traveled extensively during his papacy. How much do you think he's had to scale back, though, because of his health? I'm thinking also in particular, Slovakia and Croatia, when he was going there in 2003, and everyone said, Oh, he just looks so frail, he shouldn't go. But he was determined to make those trips.

ALLEN: Yes, that's right. And the typical pattern, actually, on a papal trip, from my experience of making a whole slew of these things, is that usually, the first couple of days, he looks awful, he looks frail, he looks weak, and people start filing stories about how this could be his last trip.

And, you know, and by the end, he often picks up. And so the stories that we're doing are about his resurgence and his rebirth. And yet, I mean, it has to be said, that certainly, in 2005, 2004, 2005, his travel, both his travel schedule and his public schedule have been significantly reduced.

And I think what finally happened is that the pope himself became convinced that in order to be able to do some things well, he had to do fewer things. And that's why, actually, in the last several months, he has typically looked much better rested, much more in command of himself, much less frail in public than he did, for example, as you say, in 2003.

And so that has been the papal health story the last six months, which is one of the things that makes tonight's development such a bolt out of the blue.

COLLINS: Yes, it sure does. All right. Well, John Allen, our CNN Vatican analyst tonight, appreciate your thoughts. We will have much more on the pope's health a little bit later on 360.

But now, we turn to a bizarre development today in the war on terror. A chilling image was posted on a supposed Islamist Web site, purporting to show a U.S. soldier taken hostage, a rifle pointed at his head. It is a disturbing image. But, as it turns out, it was a fake. And wait till you hear where it really came from.

Here now CNN's Pentagon correspondent, Barbara Starr.

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BARBARA STARR, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): This purported Islamic Web site first posted the statement claiming it had captured a U.S. soldier named John Adam after a firefight, and was planning to behead him. This photographed accompanied the statement, a photograph CNN never aired, because it could not confirm a U.S. soldier was missing.

Now it appears it was all some sort of hoax. An action figure toy called Special Ops Cody, with a uniform of doll clothes and toy guns. The manufacturer says the toy in the picture looks like a special-edition toy made for U.S. military exchange stores.

LIAM CUSACK, DRAGON MODELS USA: When we looked at it, we noticed that it looked, you know, beared a striking resemblance to an action figure that we had produced about a year and a half ago, around a year ago, I guess. We still don't want to come out and say that it is, you know, 100 percent for sure our action figure, but, I mean, it does bear a, you know, like I say, a striking resemblance to an action figure that we did make.

STARR: But the U.S. military had to take it all very seriously. Officials poring over the photograph had wondered about the uniform. The ammo vest did not look like anything in U.S. military inventory, one senior officer saying, We didn't know for sure, we had to start counting heads in Iraq to see if anybody was missing.

Officials are not amused. They are reminding everyone that this is Army Specialist Keith Matthew Maupin, a soldier missing in Iraq since he was captured last year, his fate very much unknown to his family.

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STARR: And Heidi, officials say this photograph that was seen today could have been from insurgents, could have been from someone hacking into a Web site. They don't really know. It doesn't really matter so much to them at the end of the day, because anytime a member of the U.S. military is reported missing and captured, they say they will swing into high gear and try and find out what has happened, Heidi.

COLLINS: As always, and a good reminder about Keith Maupin too. Barbara Starr at the Pentagon, thank you. STARR: Thank you.

COLLINS: 360 next now, day two of jury selection in the Michael Jackson trial. Find out why the judge has canceled court for the rest of the week.

Plus, the real happy meal. What food can help you conquer depression. Part of our special series.

And on the down low, one woman shares how she discovered her husband's secret sex life.

But first, your picks, the most popular stories on CNN.com right now.

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COLLINS: It is day two in the State of California versus Michael Jackson, the sexual molestation case that is drawing attention around the world.

Today the judge put a sudden end to the first phase of jury selection. Enough, he said, we have enough people to fill the jury box, so I'm ready to go. Once again today, Jackson himself was in the courtroom looking quite different than he looked on day one.

CNN's Ted Rowlands reports.

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TED ROWLANDS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Dressed in a black jacket and black pants, Michael Jackson acknowledged his screaming fans before going into the courthouse for what turned out to be a short day and the last of the week.

About 250 potential jurors, more than expected at this point, say they are ready to serve for up to six months. The judge canceled court for the rest of the week, ordering everybody back Monday morning.

In court, Jackson stood and smiled as prospective jurors walked in. Courtroom observers described Jackson as attentive, saying he was even taking notes.

DAWN HOBBS, REPORTER, "SANTA BARBARA NEWS PRESS": When he came into the courtroom and he sat down, he pulled out one of those big yellow legal pads, and wrote down a note, almost as if to himself, folded it up, put it inside of his pocket. And the rest of the time, he was indeed taking notes, like his lawyers were taking notes.

ROWLANDS: The jurors, who have all filled out seven-page questionnaires, will be back Monday for individual questioning. The 250 will be whittled down to 20, 12 jurors and eight alternates.

The crowd outside the courthouse has thinned considerably from day one of the trial, leaving mainly hardcore fans to greet the pop superstar as he comes and goes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I've got three children at home. I came, I left them, because Michael is as (UNINTELLIGIBLE) -- he is as important to me as like a father would be.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, I have my, I think, like, a year's worth of savings have just gone on this one week's trip. But it was worth it.

ROWLANDS: As he was being driven away for the final time of the week, Jackson hung out the window, one last look for his hardcore friends.

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ROWLANDS: Over the next few days, lawyers from both sides are expected to be poring over those questionnaires so that they can prepare for individually questioning the jurors starting next Monday. Michael Jackson is supposed to be in court when court resumes at 8:30 a.m. Pacific time Monday morning, Heidi.

COLLINS: All right, Ted Rowlands, thanks so much for that tonight.

And picking those final 12 jurors, along with eight alternates, will take time, and it will not be easy. Helping us cover all the angles of the Jackson case are Court TV anchor Lisa Bloom and from Chicago tonight, trial consultant Paul Lisnek.

Thanks to the both of you for being here tonight.

PAUL LISNEK, TRIAL CONSULTANT: Hi, Heidi.

LISA BLOOM, COURT TV ANCHOR: (UNINTELLIGIBLE).

COLLINS: Lisa, I want to start with you. What are the odds that the 20 jurors that are needed in this case are going to be able to be chosen out of this huge pool (UNINTELLIGIBLE)...

BLOOM: Well, the judge seems confident. You know, he's looked over this group, and he knows the local community. If he's confident, I'm confident. We're talking about one in 10, roughly, now, out of the 250. We're going to have 12 jurors and eight alternates. He seems to think he's going to find 20 fair-minded people in the local community. Let's be optimistic and hope that's true.

COLLINS: And Paul, what are the big issues going to be in the coming days of this jury selection?

LISNEK: You know, I think a lot of people have been talking about, you know, the race component in this case, whatever. Do you know, what's interesting to me, Heidi, is, this case, I think, is not going to be very much about race at all. There are some deeper underlying issues here that tap into the world of pedophilia, of homosexual conduct, of religion. And you're going to see, I think, questioning and focus being in those areas, deeper issues than we've seen in other famous cases recently.

COLLINS: Well, we also know that the jurists who are left now had to fill out this seven-page questionnaire. Do you think that they are going to be asked about some other quintessential Jackson moments, if you will, Lisa, like perhaps the baby dangling? I mean, everybody remembers that moment.

BLOOM: Ahh. Yes, the famous baby dangling. No, I don't think, they're not going to be asked about that elephant that's in the corner of the room, the way that Jackson's alleged to have mistreated his own children. They won't be asked about other alleged victims, even though there may be seven of those the prosecution may be able to bring in the trial. The judge hasn't ruled on that yet.

You know, and that presents a hard question for the jury -- for the attorneys during jury selection. Usually, you want to ask the jurors right up front about the hard questions that are going to be raised during the trial. Well, the defense doesn't want to touch the other alleged victims, because perhaps the judge won't allow that in. On the other hand, if some juror is going to hold that against Michael Jackson, they want to know now. So it's really a conundrum, I think, for the defense.

COLLINS: And Paul, so far, it seems as though Jackson's been pretty well behaved. We watched the video today as he went in and out of the courtroom. Certainly no repeats of the car dance that we also all remember.

LISNEK: No, I think...

COLLINS: But how important is his demeanor, though, to prospective jurors in all of this?

LISNEK: Oh, it's very important. And, you know, you know, we went from the white yesterday to the black today. I think they're shifting him toward a suit as time goes on. I really think that he's going, listen, he's a celebrity, so he gets to play a little bit. He gets to sort of violate the expectations of a suit a little bit. (UNINTELLIGIBLE)...

BLOOM: But, Paul, is he going to wear that armband every day? I mean, come on. And yesterday with the spats and the jewel-encrusted vest, the gold chain belt. I mean, come on...

LISNEK: But...

BLOOM: ... is that how you'd advise him to show up in court?

LISNEK: But you -- well, you know what, Lisa, I'll tell you what I would advise. I'd say, Michael, the, you know, the trouble we're going to face is evidence that comes in that for people who know you, and everybody knows you, they've got an image of who you are. So we also don't want to turn you into something you're not. You've got to be that person who people do love and do think the world of...

(CROSSTALK) BLOOM: But doesn't that armband symbolize political prisoner? I mean, come on, Paul.

LISNEK: Oh, well, look, the armband, you absolutely right...

BLOOM: That's got to go.

LISNEK: ... but the general concept, the general...

COLLINS: And so do we.

LISNEK: ... (UNINTELLIGIBLE), listen, maybe we'll get him a, we'll get him a Lance Armstrong band. How about that?

COLLINS: Unfortunately, guys, that's good. Thanks so much to the both of you, Lisa Bloom and Paul Lisnek on the Michael Jackson case tonight.

BLOOM: Thank you.

COLLINS: Thanks, guys.

LISNEK: Thank you.

COLLINS: 360 next, breaking news, a health scare for Pope John Paul II. You are looking now at some live pictures of the hospital where he has been taken tonight. We are going to have an update in a live report coming to us from Rome in just a few moments.

Plus, first lady Laura Bush one on one. She talks about her husband's State of the Union address tomorrow night, the Iraqi elections, and much more.

And conquering depression by eating the right foods? We uncover the real happy meal, part of our special series.

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COLLINS: Tomorrow night, before a packed house, President Bush will deliver the first State of the Union address of his second term. Yesterday and today, the president has practiced his speech. The White House released these photos of his run-throughs.

The address, without all the applause, runs about 40 minutes, and covers topics like Social Security reform and Middle East peace.

This morning, senior political correspondent Candy Crowley sat down with the woman by the president's side, first lady Laura Bush. As Candy reports, this Laura Bush is different than the one we first met four years ago.

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CANDY CROWLEY, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It was the underbuzz of the inauguration. There is something about Laura Bush, the first lady, take two. LAURA BUSH: I started lifting weights about three years ago, and it took about three years, I think, for it to show up. But I do feel a lot stronger...

CROWLEY: She is trimmer, fitter, hipper than four years ago. But this is not about moving seamlessly around a dance floor. It's about moving seamlessly through an interview.

BUSH: This job, as Lady Bird Johnson said that, you know, is, has no job description. And as she said, the first lady has a podium if she chooses to use it. And I think that's what I've come to find out. And I didn't when I first started.

CROWLEY: Laura bush on the leading cause of death among women.

BUSH: One of the reasons that women, that more women than men die of heart disease is that women don't really know what the symptoms of a heart attack are. And because they think of heart disease as a man's disease.

CROWLEY: Laura Bush on the Iraqi elections.

BUSH: We've seen a historic election in Afghanistan. We've seen an election in the Palestinian territory. And now we've seen an election in Iraq. And these are very, very hopeful times. They're difficult times, there's no doubt about it. And they're particularly difficult for the United States military and their families.

CROWLEY (on camera): Just to me, you seem more interested in the political issues.

BUSH: Well, I'm much more knowledgeable about the political issues, of course, because I've lived them every single day with him.

CROWLEY (voice-over): The Laura Bush of 2000, the reluctant librarian whose campaign comfort zone was kindergarten, busted loose in '04 on tax cuts, on stem cell research. She now talks as easily about women's health as her husband's State of the Union address.

BUSH: Well, the president will talk about confronting problems that he feels like it's his responsibility, and the responsibility of elected officials to confront. And certainly one of those is Social Security.

CROWLEY: The first first lady, the one who took the job, seems different from the one who has it now, because she is.

BUSH: My role probably hasn't changed as much as I've changed, and just become more comfortable in this job that I have.

CROWLEY: Is it the nature of the jobs, the nature of the sexes, or the vagaries of power that more often than not presidents seem to grow old under the power given to them, while first ladies come alive with the power they find?

BUSH: When George was first inaugurated president, I think I didn't really realize what an opportunity I had, and what a responsibility I had, really, to talk about issues that are important to me and to try to make a difference.

CROWLEY: Candy Crowley, CNN, Washington.

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COLLINS: And our special series, Conquering Depression. Tonight, the depressed body, how the disease takes its physical toll, and the diet you can use to fight back.

360 continues.

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COLLINS: And update now on our breaking news tonight. Pope John Paul II was rushed to a Rome hospital late today, suffering from what the Vatican is calling an acute respiratory infection. And you are now looking live at the hospital where the pope is resting tonight. This is Gemelli Hospital. Earlier the Vatican had announced that the pope had canceled meetings for the next few days. At the time the Vatican said the pop had the flu. Now the official story is that the hospitalization was, quote, "urgently needed." The pope, of course, is the spiritual leader to the world's one billion Catholics.

CNN's Jim Bittermann takes a closer look now at the pontiff's impact.

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JIM BITTERMANN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Around the Vatican they like to boast that John Paul has personally made contact with more people than anyone else on Earth, 15 million alone according to estimates have attended his Wednesday audiences in Rome. Not to mention the millions and millions who have turned out to see him on his 102 trips.

Add to that the billions who have seen him on TV, and surely, the pope would qualify as the most recognizable figure on the planet. And how has he used that visibility? Some credit John Paul with precipitating the fall of communism, confronting dictators on human rights. With reaching to redressed division became religion. He has used his priestly pulpit to comfort the downtrodden as he has throughout the world and to confront the powerful, as he did most recently with British Prime Minister Tony Blair and U.S. president George Bush over the war in Iraq. Even some who know the pope's failings rate him a success.

You'd be hard pressed to find any global figure who has achieved 100 percent of the things they've set out to achieve. I think the measure of success really has to be fidelity to ones own vision and the capacity to make that vision real.

(on camera): There are many, of course, who do not agree with the pope's vision. Even some members of his college of cardinals say that, John Paul's quarter century has left the church with numerous internal problems, declining number of congregations, declining number of priests, a major sex abuse scandal. And a congregation divided on such issues as the role of women in the church, abortion and birth control.

(voice-over): Yet, the sheer length of his reign has permitted John Paul to set large goals and achievement them. Goals based on principles beyond those of a modern world often driving by profit and provocation. The pope has used communications in a way no human being ever has, hoping to move the world in an entirely different direction. No army, just his moral megaphone, as they call it around the Vatican.

Jim Bittermann, CNN, Vatican City.

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COLLINS: And for the latest now on the pope's condition, let's go live to Rome and CNN's Vatican analyst, Delia Gallagher tonight. Delia, thanks for being with us. What does this news about the pope being in the hospital -- rushed to the hospital, in fact? What does it say to you? Are you surprised?

DELIA GALLAGHER, CNN VATICAN ANALYST: Well, yes, it's certainly unusual that he would be rushed to the hospital late at night. On the other hand, a note of caution should be sounded because we knew that he had the flu. So, if you consider that an 84-year-old man with the ailments that the pope has, having flu. Respiratory problems then brought on by that flu, it's only wise really that he would be brought to the hospital in order to try to deal with those respiratory problems. We saw him on Sunday, Heidi, and he looked fine. He sounded hoarse. But he was still quite strong physically and mentally as we know. So, the Vatican had canceled his public appearances and his meetings, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. So, we were prepared for that fact. In a sense, it's not a surprise because we knew he had the flu. On the other hand, one has to to consider, yes, it's unusual that he would be taken to the hospital. The Vatican says it's a precautionary pressure measure. And we have no reason to disbelieve that at this point.

COLLINS: As we speak, Delia, we're look at pictures when the pope was there with the general audience and the doves were released. And he seemed to be very alert when we look at those pictures. I understand there was a problem with the doves wanting to go back inside the Vatican there. Have the Vatican.

GALLAGHER: Yes, that's right.

COLLINS: Go ahead.

GALLAGHER: Yes, I was just going to say, there's a sign again of the pope's sort of strength and his sense of what's happening around him, et cetera. A lot of people like to say that he's not aware of what's going on. But you can see him batting away the doves there and having a good time doing it. So one has to consider, also, the underlying elements of pope's strength. And his doctors have said many times in the past he's very strong-willed and strong physically. Although he seems frail and the Parkinson's has brought him those difficulties of speech and movement. He does have strength there that will probably allow him overcome the flu. However, we have to wait and see what transpires in the next few hours, because of course, respiratory problems can create other problems. So, we'll just have to wait and see, Heidi.

COLLINS: We certainly will. All right. Thanks so much, CNN, Vatican analyst, Delia Gallagher tonight. Thanks Delia.

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And a little later, he's got a team of lawyers and a gaggle of fans, but does Michael Jackson have a wardrobe consultant for his high stakes trail?

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COLLINS: You are about to meet a woman who thought she had it all, the perfect husband, the house, the kids. And then one day, she got the shock of her life. She discovered that her husband was living on the down low. Living a straight life with a big secret.

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COLLINS (voice-over): Brenda Browder married early, she was just 19, Jimmy was her first love. Together they made plans, bought a house and had two kids, Ebony (ph) and Brandon (ph).

BRENDA BROWDER, WIFE OF "DOWN LOW" AUTHOR: He was a loving father and a loving husband. People would look at us and say that's the perfect marriage.

COLLINS: After eight years of marriage, Brenda thought she knew Jimmy inside and out. Yet there were these troubling signs. Too many moments unaccounted for. She grew suspicious and starting looking around, until she found a bracelet with the inscription "for Melvin."

BROWDER: Why does he need to give a man jewelry? I should be the one getting jewelry. What's going on here? Are they lovers? What is happening, you know? Are they having sex together?

COLLINS: And she found out, they were.

BROWDER: I was crushed. I was hurt. I was confused. I didn't know what to do. I didn't know who to turn to.

COLLINS: Because of the stigma attached to homosexuality in the African-American community, she says few believed her. Her pastor advised her to stand by her man. She refused, and filed for divorce.

It took 20 years for Jimmy to admit he cheated on Brenda. Until last year, when he published this book, "On the Down Low: A Journey Into the Lives of Straight, Black Men Who Sleep With Men." The book was a success. Jimmy went on national television.

J.L. KING, BRENDA'S FORMER HUSBAND: The desire to have sex with the same gender has always been in my lifestyle.

COLLINS: Brenda decided to write her side of the story, "On the Up and Up," to raise awareness, she says, about the health risks men who live on the down low pose to their wives. But also, to find closure.

BROWDER: You wonder what else has happened, or what else is going on that I don't know about. So it's just a betrayal of trust, and it makes you feel -- you lose self-esteem during that process, and you have to get that back.

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COLLINS: We strive to cover all the angles on 360. So joining us tonight is an author and activist who says much of what the media reports about men on the down low is wrong, including the fact that it's only black men who are leading this kind of double life.

Keith Boykin is an openly gay man who served in the Clinton administration and is now the author of the new book, "Beyond the Down Low." Keith, thanks for being with us tonight. It's a pleasure to meet you.

Why do you think some black men are compelled, though, to live on the down low?

KEITH BOYKIN, AUTHOR, "BEYOND THE DOWN LOW": We create the conditions that encourage people to be on the down low. We have to think about how the TV shows that we watch, the comedians that we laugh at, the churches that we attend really contribute to the whole down low atmosphere. So we have a lot to do about making the down low in the first place.

COLLINS: Do you see a danger in this type of lifestyle, the way it's portrayed in the media?

BOYKIN: Sure. The down low is definitely -- it's an overblown story, first of all, but the down low is definitely an issue. There is a down low. There are black men who sleep with men, who do not identify as gay. But the truth is, it's really not the issue that we think it is. It's not the cause of the HIV/AIDS epidemic, which is really how the media got into the story in the first place. The danger is about deception, not about HIV/AIDS. There are many ways that people can be infected with AIDS, and the down low is just one way in which that happens.

COLLINS: Well, let's go back for just a minute. Explain to me exactly what the down low means. I mean, we have someone who is, let's say, a man, sleeping with another man, yet says he is not gay.

BOYKIN: Right. The down low refers to men who do not identify as gay but also engage in sexual activities with women and men. We called it the closet when white men did it. But when black men do it, now we call it -- we created a new, repackaged term called the down low, which is basically the same thing. You know, when Jim McGreevey came out last year and announced that he was gay and had been living in a relationship with a woman, his wife, at the same time sleeping with a man, no one ever said he was on the down low. We just called it what it is and moved on.

COLLINS: So who created the down low, though?

BOYKIN: The media created it, and a few people who decided to make some money off of it, for the purpose of...

COLLINS: So this is not the black culture that created it?

BOYKIN: Well, you know, the term itself has been around for quite some time, and it meant a lot of different things. But the down low, the idea of men sleeping with men, that's been going on since the beginning of time. That's not a new phenomenon at all.

The only thing that's new about it is that we're starting to talk about it, and we're using this as a connection for the HIV/AIDS issue. That's what we need to keep in perspective. Last year, in 2003, there were 7,000 black female AIDS cases, according to the CDC. Only 118 of them reported sex with a bisexual man as a cause of exposure. So there are many other risks that women need to be concerned about. Injection drug use, or heterosexual sex. There are a lot of other issues that we need to be concerned about, other than the down low. And there are a lot of solutions that we can be focused on, other than the sensationalistic, hyped-up talk about the down low.

COLLINS: All right. Well, Keith Boykin, we appreciate you being here tonight, and letting us know a little bit more about it.

BOYKIN: It's great to be here.

COLLINS: All right. Thanks so much.

360 next now, taking a bite out of the blues. How so-called happy foods may help keep depression away.

And a little later, Michael Jackson's legal look. Is his style courting disaster?

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COLLINS: If you break a leg or pull a muscle, you pretty much know right away, because your body tells you with pain. But did you know that your body might also tell you that you're depressed? Tonight as we continue our special series on conquering depression, Dr. Sanjay Gupta looks at the connection between mind and body.

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GUPTA (voice-over): A walk in the park is more like a trudge, and a nice day might be viewed in darker hues when 46-year-old Matt Grimes becomes depressed. MATT GRIMES, BATTLES DEPRESSION: Sometimes, I'm even struggling to make it out into the day. It's like I have to a lot of times push myself to get up and get going. Once I get going, normally I'm OK, but it's kind of like -- sometimes it's a real struggle to just do everyday things, you know.

GUPTA: His depression would have a tight grip on his mind and eventually his heart. Ten years ago, he was diagnosed with clinical depression. Six years later, blockages in his heart.

Dr. Viola Vaccarino believes there's a link. She heads a study at Emory University finding strong connections between markers for depression and later heart disease.

DR. VIOLA VACCARINO, EMORY UNIVERSITY: And the more depressed the people are, the more abnormalities we're finding.

GUPTA: No doubt, the mind and the body are connected. And we're proving it more than ever before. A recent study found that women with depression also had high levels of insulin resistance, which can lead to type II diabetes. And a National Institute of Health study finds that women who were depressed had significantly higher rates of bone mass loss than women who were not depressed.

DR. PHILIP GOLD, NIH: Premenopausal women who were quite young, who've had episodes of major depression had lost a significant amount of bone. Some enough bone that would qualify for osteoporosis.

GUPTA: One reason may be that depressed people generate large amounts of a hormone called cortisol. It's released when you're stressed and when you're depressed.

GOLD: And depression where this -- stress response gets locked in the on position, then bone is lost really over time and perhaps continually, and ultimately, enough bone is lost so it becomes pathological.

GUPTA: And the result is depression of body's immune system, the body's ability to fiend off the disease.

MATT GRIMES, BATTLES DEPRESSION: I think when the spirit is broken, it affects your bodily function. Are.

GUPTA: As Matt Grimes has discovered, he's turned to both mental and physical therapy in a hope for brighter future.

Dr. Sanjay Gupta, CNN, Atlanta.

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COLLINS: One way to get your body to overcome it's depression is to feed it. But don't go running for the Twinkies and chocolate just yet, there are some healthy foods that can make your body and mind feel better.

Joining me from Portland, Oregon to discuss these really happy meals is registered dietitian Elizabeth Somer. She's the author of "Food and Mood," the complete guide to eating well and feeling your very best.

Thanks so much for being with us, Elizabeth. I want start by looking at the foods that people should avoid. In fact, you're saying key stressers are sugar and caffeine, so I will not tell you what I had just before the show started. Even though some people think, that in the short-term, these types of food lift their spirits or their energy?

ELIZABETH SOMER, AUTHOR "FOOD & MOOD": That's right, the quick fixes. The things we go to do give us a temporary lift, but it's just that, a temporary lift. In the long run, that lift is followed by a crash. And then within an hour or two you feel worse or just as bad as you did before, and you end up creating this spiral where you go back to the coffee or back to the cola, go back to the sweets for that rush again. And you ride this roller coaster ride that fuels your depression and your fatigue, rather than lifting you out of it.

COLLINS: But we're not just talking about fatigue or stress. I mean, we're talking about depression. So, tell me where it changes from just feeling tired and it moves all the way to depression and something that should really be treated?

SOMER: Well, it's a whole continuum. Fatigue and depression go hand in hand. You never see a perky depressed person. So -- and some people just battle just everyday blues, some people have clinical depression. But what we do know is that studies find regardless -- there are studies from the University of Southern Alabama that have found, that if you cut out caffeine and sugar, up to two-thirds of people with clinical depression report that first their fatigue began to lift, and then their depression begins to improve as well.

COLLINS: Really.

SOMER: And keep in mind, we are consuming more sugar than any living creature has ever consumed in the history of this planet, about 30 teaspoons of added sugar a day. And it's in foods that aren't even sweet. You know, there's three to four teaspoons of sugar in flavored oatmeal. There's up to nine teaspoons of sugar in soda pop. Seven teaspoons of sugar in sweetened yogurt.

COLLINS: Let's talk about some of the nutrients and mood supports then, that have a beneficial affect on mood, if you will. They include omega 3 acid, folic acid and B vitamins, Complex carbohydrates and water. Take us through these.

SOMER: Along with getting rid of the caffeine and the sugar, start focusing on the mood boosters. The omega 3s are the fats that you find in, say, fatty fish like salmon. And we have evidence now to show that possibly consuming two to three servings of fish or taking fish oil capsules of about one gram of omega 3s every day can lift mood over the long haul. Now, it wont' be, you eat fish for lunch and you feel better by dinner. But in the long haul, that you'll have a better mood, less likely to develop depression, possibly even lower risk for things like suicide. Then there's the folic acid, B12, B6, or 3D vitamins, that also have been associated with mood. When those nutrients are low, we see an increased risk for depression. When their high, a lower risk.

COLLINS: Sure. So, Elizabeth, before we let you go, I want to make sure you that are able to hit -- the one thing that people can do as far as a quick fix for keeping their mood up?

SOMER: You know, there is no quick fix when it comes to mood and eating. It's how you eat over the long haul. But one thing you can do is eat breakfast. People who eat breakfast, And I'm not talking about a donut and coffee. I'm walking about say, a bowl of whole grain cereal with a glass of orange juice, have better mood, less likely to battle fatigue, less likely to battle even thinking problems over the long haul. So, make sure that you start the day off with something as simple as five minute breakfast of a bowl of cereal.

COLLINS: Got it. We appreciate your time very much, Elizabeth Somer, a registered dietitian for us here tonight. Thanks again, Elizabeth.

SOMER: Thank you.

COLLINS: Now, let's go ahead and find out what's going on at the top of the hour on "PAULA ZAHN NOW." Paula, good evening.

PAULA ZAHN, HOST "PAULA ZAHN NOW": Good evening, Heidi. For the record, my boxed meal made me very happy tonight, a burger.

COLLINS: That sounds great.

ZAHN: ... Mood up there high. All right. Tomorrow, as you know, the president gives the State of the Union Address. And tonight, we're going to look at the state of the union far outside the beltway. What we found in the American heartland are ordinary people doing extraordinary things, building new lives in the face of a changing economy, taking charge of the communities, looking for ways to bridge political and cultural divides. We call our showed tonight, the state of the states. And if you want to know what America's made of tonight, all you've got to watch are some of the people you'll meet a little bit later on tonight.

COLLINS: Looking forward to it. Paula, thank you. There's more 360 after the break.

Plus, tomorrow, kids on heroin. It's a rapidly growing problem that can wipe out dreams and lives. How your child can fall victim to a drug that's become more addictive.

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COLLINS: Besides jury selection, we've been noticing another selection process taking place at the trial of the Michael Jackson, his wardrobe.

Who better to check it out than CNN's Jeanne Moos.

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JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Michael Jackson's look inspired comedian Chris Rock to compare him to Captain Crunch. Is Michael courting disaster by what he's wearing to court. One New York tabloid described him as "Snow White" Jackco.

ROBERT VERDI, FASHION ANALYST: It's the proclamation of innocence. Virgin white, that's what women wear on their wedding day even if it's inappropriate.

MOOS: Some of Michael's accessory really irked defense attorneys, like the metal belt he wore. He could lose the giggling coin belt, then their's the umbrella.

JAYNE WEINTRAUB, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Where he walks like Marry Poppins, no. He needs to lose that. He's not the president of the United States in a rainstorm, he's Michael Jackson walking into court for his life.

MOOS: Most attorneys like to tone down their clients, from P. Diddy, to the Menendez Brother. Amber Frey got a makeover, before and after. So did Scott Peterson, but his makeover was self-engineered. Martha Stewart got picked on for carrying a 6,500 Airmez (ph) bag to court.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She's wearing an expensive bag, an expensive fur and an expensive attorney.

MOOS: Such snipping caused one Martha fan to snap over the perceived double standard?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did you media what suit Ken Lay had? Was it an Armani or a Calvin Klein?

MOOS: He talks, but we know Michael Jackson wasn't wearing Brooks Brothers.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I especially like on this one.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The matching band-aids.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Very nice touch

MOOS: An then there are the arm bands. Sometimes, they're said to be biblical references. Once Michael said they stand for the suffering of children.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He's got more arm bands than other guys have ties.

MOOS: Actually his arm bands sometimes match his ties. Some defendants are so riveting, you don't even notice what their wearing. But even Saddam Hussein got cleaned up for his day in court. We learned from Anna Nicole Smith there are some clients you can dress up, but you still can't take them out.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Have you been taking acting lessons?

ANNA NICOLE SMITH, ENTERTAINER: (UNINTELLIGIBLE)

MOOS: And we can only imagine what Perry Mason would say about Michael Jackson's legal look.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Wow.

MOOS: Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.

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HEIDI COLLINS, HOST: Good evening from New York, everyone. I'm Heidi Collins. Anderson is on assignment tonight.
Pope John Paul II hospitalized.

360 starts right now.

The pontiff rushed to a Rome hospital with breathing trouble after a four-day bout of the flu. We'll have the latest on his condition.

The image of a soldier, bound and held at gunpoint, exposed as a hoax. The GI, just a toy. Who's behind the sick joke?

The judge in the case against Michael Jackson says he's seen enough. The jury pool is chosen.

Laura Bush speaks out about the Iraq vote, tomorrow's State of the Union address, and her changing role in the White House.

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LAURA BUSH, FIRST LADY: The first lady has a podium if she chooses to use it. And I think that's what I've come to find out.

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COLLINS: Candy Crowley one on one with the first lady.

And our special series, Conquering Depression. Tonight, the depressed body, how the disease takes its physical toll and the diet you can use to fight back.

ANNOUNCER: Live from the CNN Broadcast Center in New York, this is ANDERSON COOPER 360.

COLLINS: We begin tonight with breaking news out of the Vatican. Pope John Paul II has been taken to the hospital. The 84-year-old pontiff, who has been in poor health for some time now, is said to be suffering from an acute infection of the respiratory tract.

We also know the Vatican says the hospitalization was, quote, "urgently needed."

CNN's Rome bureau chief, Alessio Vinci, joins us now live from the CNN bureau in Rome.

Alessio, tell us, if you could, what is the very latest on the pope's condition as you know it?

ALESSIO VINCI, CNN ROME BUREAU CHIEF: Heidi, the very latest that we know is what the Vatican has been telling reporters at the Giamelli (ph) Hospital here in Rome, and that is, the pope is suffering from acute respiratory infection.

It is, of course, a worsening condition to what the Vatican had originally said this morning and last night, that the pope had simply developed mild symptoms of the flu. Obviously the condition worsening very quickly in the last 24 hours, leading both Vatican officials as well as physicians to the conclusion that the pope had to be hospitalized urgently in order to go through some medical checks.

Now, we do understand from Vatican sources that the pope is not in intensive care unit. He is going through some medical checks at this time, including some X-rays. Now, the pope, who we last saw in public on Sunday, did speak with a hoarse voice, leading many here observers to believe that indeed his only medical condition was at that time a mild flu.

But this sudden hospitalization so late tonight leaves many observers here to believe that the condition of the pope is somewhat worse than originally anticipated. And therefore, the Vatican officials, as well as his physician, really believed that it was the time for the pope to go through the medical checks at the Giamelli hospital, Heidi.

COLLINS: Yes, I mean, everyone very concerned, obviously, Alessio. We have seen and heard some of the video from Sunday and heard his voice and how very hoarse it was. Your impressions of his appearance on Sunday?

VINCI: Well, my impression was that indeed, he did have this hoarse voice, which led many at first to think that his condition had really worsened. Then the Vatican issued a statement on Monday saying that the pope had developed this -- simply this flu.

Now, what also I noticed, however, is that despite the fact that he had this hoarse voice, his body language was also had -- you know, you also look at his body language. He looked very aware (UNINTELLIGIBLE) of what was going on around him.

The pope has suffers from a series of ailments, so we are used to see him in poor health. But his condition appeared to be better, if you want, compared to, say, a year ago, when the pope took several trips to Slovakia and Bulgaria, for example. So the pope really looked -- and his -- you know, looked with a, with -- you know, had a hoarse voice. But his body was there, his language was -- his body language was actually receptive, and therefore we didn't believe that the pope was really had anything serious either than just the flu back then.

COLLINS: Well, quickly, Alessio, I know that you have covered the pope for some time. How forthcoming is the Vatican normally about the condition of the pope?

VINCI: Well, usually, not very forthcoming. As a matter of fact, the Vatican has not even acknowledged the fact that the pope suffers from Parkinson's disease. I must say, however, that in the last few days, the Vatican officials and the Vatican spokesmen have been quite forthcoming in releasing information that the pope had the flu, and now this very specific (UNINTELLIGIBLE) diagnosis of acute respiratory infection.

So we have to see in the coming days how this develops. But generally speaking, the Vatican is not very happy in releasing information about the pope's health. But this time, the situation could be quite different.

COLLINS: Yes, very protective indeed. All right. Alessio Vinci, thanks so much, coming to us from our CNN bureau in Rome tonight. Alessio, thanks.

Want to move on now. As you know, the pope suffers from a number of chronic conditions, including Parkinson's disease. He is 84 years old.

And Dr. Sanjay Gupta is joining us now to talk more about his health.

Sanjay, good evening to you.

As we just mentioned, the pope is 84 years old. How could an acute respiratory infection and the flu affect someone at his age?

SANJAY GUPTA, CNN SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes, Heidi, I mean, the flu in an 84-year-old's going to be very different than the flu in most people. Most people think the flu is not that serious. But remember, the flu kills 36,000 people alone every year or so. It's can be a very serious problem.

The fact that he has so many other significant medical problems on top of that certainly makes him a larger candidate to have some poor consequences as a result of the flu.

Couple of things they pointed out already. You can see some of his past medical history there. They called it the flu first, now calling it an acute respiratory infection. The terms are important here, the language is important, Heidi, when it comes to medically talking about him, specifically because the flu typically is a viral illness.

If he's developed an acute respiratory infection, what that typically means is that he might have actually had a chest x-ray which showed some changes as well, which could mean the early sort of pneumonia, which is very concerning, obviously, in anybody, but especially in 84-year-old.

It's going to be hard to say right now. Very few details coming out, obviously, in the hospital for a short amount of time now. As Alessio mentioned just now, he's not in the intensive care unit as of yet, but I imagine that he probably will go there for observation, if nothing else, Heidi.

COLLINS: Let's talk also, Sanjay, as you mentioned, the Parkinson's disease and other ailments that the pope has. Could these affect also affect his immune system and his overall health, meaning, you know, how well he could fight something off like this type of infection?

GUPTA: Yes, I mean, if you look at the pope's medical history, obviously, when he, you know, in 1978, when he first became pope, he was the picture of health, really. Over the last 25, 27 years now, things have changed pretty considerably.

Remember, just reflecting back on his medical history now, if you go back to 1981, he had a gunshot at that time actually to the abdomen and the chest. He's had an intestinal tumor removed. His gallbladder was removed. He had a dislocated right shoulder. Most people remember him 2004, most recently, in a very seriously weakened state. And again, some of the images we've seen over the last couple of days.

The Parkinson's disease in and of itself, people typically associate with movement disorders. That's going to be some of the early stages of Parkinson's. What can happen, though, to someone as they develop Parkinson's for a long period of time, it can start to affect things like blood pressure, it can affect his ability to stand on his own. He can have dips in blood pressure that can be pretty significant, can lead to someone feeling faint, passing out, which could be why he has different changes of state when you see him from one time to the next.

But certainly, all these medical problems can add to this, Heidi.

COLLINS: All right. Dr. Sanjay Gupta tonight, Sanjay...

GUPTA: Thank you.

COLLINS: ... thanks for the medical expertise, as always.

Pope John Paul II has been the head of the Roman Catholic Church since 1978. And over the last 27 years, the pontiff has traveled the world over. Nearly 20 million pilgrims have participated in his general audiences at the Vatican.

And more on this legacy now, let's return to the CNN bureau in Rome, where we're joined by CNN Vatican analyst John Allen.

John, good evening to you there.

Want to ask you, quickly, how unusual is it for the pope to actually be taken to the hospital?

JOHN ALLEN, CNN VATICAN ANALYST: Well, it's quite unusual. You know, for one thing, routine medical care would be provided to the pope typically in his apartment. He has a private physician who is essentially a -- his full-time specialty is taking care of the pope. And there's even actually a small dental studio for the papal apartments. So for the pope actually to go to the hospital is an unusual thing, although he has gone to Rome's Giamelli Hospital on a number of occasions, as Sanjay was just saying for surgical interventions.

It's even more rare for him to be rushed there unexpectedly in the middle of the night, which is essentially what happened in this case. So that would certainly indicate to us that something serious is going on.

And on the other hand, you know, there is a probably huge note of caution that's is in order here, which is that this is a man who has shown a remarkable resilience over the years and has outlived a whole slew of previous scares about his health.

And his underlying condition, according to his doctors and his closest aides, that is, things like his diet, his sleep pattern, his circulation, his blood pressure, all of that continues to be in relatively good shape. And in fact, earlier this morning, the Vatican's project was working on trying to schedule a meeting between the pope and Condoleezza Rice for next week.

So there's no indication that anyone inside the Vatican expects anything other than he will pull out of this and return to work.

COLLINS: Well, I, you know, we keep mentioning that he's 84 years old, and that he has also traveled extensively during his papacy. How much do you think he's had to scale back, though, because of his health? I'm thinking also in particular, Slovakia and Croatia, when he was going there in 2003, and everyone said, Oh, he just looks so frail, he shouldn't go. But he was determined to make those trips.

ALLEN: Yes, that's right. And the typical pattern, actually, on a papal trip, from my experience of making a whole slew of these things, is that usually, the first couple of days, he looks awful, he looks frail, he looks weak, and people start filing stories about how this could be his last trip.

And, you know, and by the end, he often picks up. And so the stories that we're doing are about his resurgence and his rebirth. And yet, I mean, it has to be said, that certainly, in 2005, 2004, 2005, his travel, both his travel schedule and his public schedule have been significantly reduced.

And I think what finally happened is that the pope himself became convinced that in order to be able to do some things well, he had to do fewer things. And that's why, actually, in the last several months, he has typically looked much better rested, much more in command of himself, much less frail in public than he did, for example, as you say, in 2003.

And so that has been the papal health story the last six months, which is one of the things that makes tonight's development such a bolt out of the blue.

COLLINS: Yes, it sure does. All right. Well, John Allen, our CNN Vatican analyst tonight, appreciate your thoughts. We will have much more on the pope's health a little bit later on 360.

But now, we turn to a bizarre development today in the war on terror. A chilling image was posted on a supposed Islamist Web site, purporting to show a U.S. soldier taken hostage, a rifle pointed at his head. It is a disturbing image. But, as it turns out, it was a fake. And wait till you hear where it really came from.

Here now CNN's Pentagon correspondent, Barbara Starr.

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BARBARA STARR, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): This purported Islamic Web site first posted the statement claiming it had captured a U.S. soldier named John Adam after a firefight, and was planning to behead him. This photographed accompanied the statement, a photograph CNN never aired, because it could not confirm a U.S. soldier was missing.

Now it appears it was all some sort of hoax. An action figure toy called Special Ops Cody, with a uniform of doll clothes and toy guns. The manufacturer says the toy in the picture looks like a special-edition toy made for U.S. military exchange stores.

LIAM CUSACK, DRAGON MODELS USA: When we looked at it, we noticed that it looked, you know, beared a striking resemblance to an action figure that we had produced about a year and a half ago, around a year ago, I guess. We still don't want to come out and say that it is, you know, 100 percent for sure our action figure, but, I mean, it does bear a, you know, like I say, a striking resemblance to an action figure that we did make.

STARR: But the U.S. military had to take it all very seriously. Officials poring over the photograph had wondered about the uniform. The ammo vest did not look like anything in U.S. military inventory, one senior officer saying, We didn't know for sure, we had to start counting heads in Iraq to see if anybody was missing.

Officials are not amused. They are reminding everyone that this is Army Specialist Keith Matthew Maupin, a soldier missing in Iraq since he was captured last year, his fate very much unknown to his family.

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STARR: And Heidi, officials say this photograph that was seen today could have been from insurgents, could have been from someone hacking into a Web site. They don't really know. It doesn't really matter so much to them at the end of the day, because anytime a member of the U.S. military is reported missing and captured, they say they will swing into high gear and try and find out what has happened, Heidi.

COLLINS: As always, and a good reminder about Keith Maupin too. Barbara Starr at the Pentagon, thank you. STARR: Thank you.

COLLINS: 360 next now, day two of jury selection in the Michael Jackson trial. Find out why the judge has canceled court for the rest of the week.

Plus, the real happy meal. What food can help you conquer depression. Part of our special series.

And on the down low, one woman shares how she discovered her husband's secret sex life.

But first, your picks, the most popular stories on CNN.com right now.

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COLLINS: It is day two in the State of California versus Michael Jackson, the sexual molestation case that is drawing attention around the world.

Today the judge put a sudden end to the first phase of jury selection. Enough, he said, we have enough people to fill the jury box, so I'm ready to go. Once again today, Jackson himself was in the courtroom looking quite different than he looked on day one.

CNN's Ted Rowlands reports.

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TED ROWLANDS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Dressed in a black jacket and black pants, Michael Jackson acknowledged his screaming fans before going into the courthouse for what turned out to be a short day and the last of the week.

About 250 potential jurors, more than expected at this point, say they are ready to serve for up to six months. The judge canceled court for the rest of the week, ordering everybody back Monday morning.

In court, Jackson stood and smiled as prospective jurors walked in. Courtroom observers described Jackson as attentive, saying he was even taking notes.

DAWN HOBBS, REPORTER, "SANTA BARBARA NEWS PRESS": When he came into the courtroom and he sat down, he pulled out one of those big yellow legal pads, and wrote down a note, almost as if to himself, folded it up, put it inside of his pocket. And the rest of the time, he was indeed taking notes, like his lawyers were taking notes.

ROWLANDS: The jurors, who have all filled out seven-page questionnaires, will be back Monday for individual questioning. The 250 will be whittled down to 20, 12 jurors and eight alternates.

The crowd outside the courthouse has thinned considerably from day one of the trial, leaving mainly hardcore fans to greet the pop superstar as he comes and goes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I've got three children at home. I came, I left them, because Michael is as (UNINTELLIGIBLE) -- he is as important to me as like a father would be.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, I have my, I think, like, a year's worth of savings have just gone on this one week's trip. But it was worth it.

ROWLANDS: As he was being driven away for the final time of the week, Jackson hung out the window, one last look for his hardcore friends.

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ROWLANDS: Over the next few days, lawyers from both sides are expected to be poring over those questionnaires so that they can prepare for individually questioning the jurors starting next Monday. Michael Jackson is supposed to be in court when court resumes at 8:30 a.m. Pacific time Monday morning, Heidi.

COLLINS: All right, Ted Rowlands, thanks so much for that tonight.

And picking those final 12 jurors, along with eight alternates, will take time, and it will not be easy. Helping us cover all the angles of the Jackson case are Court TV anchor Lisa Bloom and from Chicago tonight, trial consultant Paul Lisnek.

Thanks to the both of you for being here tonight.

PAUL LISNEK, TRIAL CONSULTANT: Hi, Heidi.

LISA BLOOM, COURT TV ANCHOR: (UNINTELLIGIBLE).

COLLINS: Lisa, I want to start with you. What are the odds that the 20 jurors that are needed in this case are going to be able to be chosen out of this huge pool (UNINTELLIGIBLE)...

BLOOM: Well, the judge seems confident. You know, he's looked over this group, and he knows the local community. If he's confident, I'm confident. We're talking about one in 10, roughly, now, out of the 250. We're going to have 12 jurors and eight alternates. He seems to think he's going to find 20 fair-minded people in the local community. Let's be optimistic and hope that's true.

COLLINS: And Paul, what are the big issues going to be in the coming days of this jury selection?

LISNEK: You know, I think a lot of people have been talking about, you know, the race component in this case, whatever. Do you know, what's interesting to me, Heidi, is, this case, I think, is not going to be very much about race at all. There are some deeper underlying issues here that tap into the world of pedophilia, of homosexual conduct, of religion. And you're going to see, I think, questioning and focus being in those areas, deeper issues than we've seen in other famous cases recently.

COLLINS: Well, we also know that the jurists who are left now had to fill out this seven-page questionnaire. Do you think that they are going to be asked about some other quintessential Jackson moments, if you will, Lisa, like perhaps the baby dangling? I mean, everybody remembers that moment.

BLOOM: Ahh. Yes, the famous baby dangling. No, I don't think, they're not going to be asked about that elephant that's in the corner of the room, the way that Jackson's alleged to have mistreated his own children. They won't be asked about other alleged victims, even though there may be seven of those the prosecution may be able to bring in the trial. The judge hasn't ruled on that yet.

You know, and that presents a hard question for the jury -- for the attorneys during jury selection. Usually, you want to ask the jurors right up front about the hard questions that are going to be raised during the trial. Well, the defense doesn't want to touch the other alleged victims, because perhaps the judge won't allow that in. On the other hand, if some juror is going to hold that against Michael Jackson, they want to know now. So it's really a conundrum, I think, for the defense.

COLLINS: And Paul, so far, it seems as though Jackson's been pretty well behaved. We watched the video today as he went in and out of the courtroom. Certainly no repeats of the car dance that we also all remember.

LISNEK: No, I think...

COLLINS: But how important is his demeanor, though, to prospective jurors in all of this?

LISNEK: Oh, it's very important. And, you know, you know, we went from the white yesterday to the black today. I think they're shifting him toward a suit as time goes on. I really think that he's going, listen, he's a celebrity, so he gets to play a little bit. He gets to sort of violate the expectations of a suit a little bit. (UNINTELLIGIBLE)...

BLOOM: But, Paul, is he going to wear that armband every day? I mean, come on. And yesterday with the spats and the jewel-encrusted vest, the gold chain belt. I mean, come on...

LISNEK: But...

BLOOM: ... is that how you'd advise him to show up in court?

LISNEK: But you -- well, you know what, Lisa, I'll tell you what I would advise. I'd say, Michael, the, you know, the trouble we're going to face is evidence that comes in that for people who know you, and everybody knows you, they've got an image of who you are. So we also don't want to turn you into something you're not. You've got to be that person who people do love and do think the world of...

(CROSSTALK) BLOOM: But doesn't that armband symbolize political prisoner? I mean, come on, Paul.

LISNEK: Oh, well, look, the armband, you absolutely right...

BLOOM: That's got to go.

LISNEK: ... but the general concept, the general...

COLLINS: And so do we.

LISNEK: ... (UNINTELLIGIBLE), listen, maybe we'll get him a, we'll get him a Lance Armstrong band. How about that?

COLLINS: Unfortunately, guys, that's good. Thanks so much to the both of you, Lisa Bloom and Paul Lisnek on the Michael Jackson case tonight.

BLOOM: Thank you.

COLLINS: Thanks, guys.

LISNEK: Thank you.

COLLINS: 360 next, breaking news, a health scare for Pope John Paul II. You are looking now at some live pictures of the hospital where he has been taken tonight. We are going to have an update in a live report coming to us from Rome in just a few moments.

Plus, first lady Laura Bush one on one. She talks about her husband's State of the Union address tomorrow night, the Iraqi elections, and much more.

And conquering depression by eating the right foods? We uncover the real happy meal, part of our special series.

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COLLINS: Tomorrow night, before a packed house, President Bush will deliver the first State of the Union address of his second term. Yesterday and today, the president has practiced his speech. The White House released these photos of his run-throughs.

The address, without all the applause, runs about 40 minutes, and covers topics like Social Security reform and Middle East peace.

This morning, senior political correspondent Candy Crowley sat down with the woman by the president's side, first lady Laura Bush. As Candy reports, this Laura Bush is different than the one we first met four years ago.

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CANDY CROWLEY, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It was the underbuzz of the inauguration. There is something about Laura Bush, the first lady, take two. LAURA BUSH: I started lifting weights about three years ago, and it took about three years, I think, for it to show up. But I do feel a lot stronger...

CROWLEY: She is trimmer, fitter, hipper than four years ago. But this is not about moving seamlessly around a dance floor. It's about moving seamlessly through an interview.

BUSH: This job, as Lady Bird Johnson said that, you know, is, has no job description. And as she said, the first lady has a podium if she chooses to use it. And I think that's what I've come to find out. And I didn't when I first started.

CROWLEY: Laura bush on the leading cause of death among women.

BUSH: One of the reasons that women, that more women than men die of heart disease is that women don't really know what the symptoms of a heart attack are. And because they think of heart disease as a man's disease.

CROWLEY: Laura Bush on the Iraqi elections.

BUSH: We've seen a historic election in Afghanistan. We've seen an election in the Palestinian territory. And now we've seen an election in Iraq. And these are very, very hopeful times. They're difficult times, there's no doubt about it. And they're particularly difficult for the United States military and their families.

CROWLEY (on camera): Just to me, you seem more interested in the political issues.

BUSH: Well, I'm much more knowledgeable about the political issues, of course, because I've lived them every single day with him.

CROWLEY (voice-over): The Laura Bush of 2000, the reluctant librarian whose campaign comfort zone was kindergarten, busted loose in '04 on tax cuts, on stem cell research. She now talks as easily about women's health as her husband's State of the Union address.

BUSH: Well, the president will talk about confronting problems that he feels like it's his responsibility, and the responsibility of elected officials to confront. And certainly one of those is Social Security.

CROWLEY: The first first lady, the one who took the job, seems different from the one who has it now, because she is.

BUSH: My role probably hasn't changed as much as I've changed, and just become more comfortable in this job that I have.

CROWLEY: Is it the nature of the jobs, the nature of the sexes, or the vagaries of power that more often than not presidents seem to grow old under the power given to them, while first ladies come alive with the power they find?

BUSH: When George was first inaugurated president, I think I didn't really realize what an opportunity I had, and what a responsibility I had, really, to talk about issues that are important to me and to try to make a difference.

CROWLEY: Candy Crowley, CNN, Washington.

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COLLINS: And our special series, Conquering Depression. Tonight, the depressed body, how the disease takes its physical toll, and the diet you can use to fight back.

360 continues.

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COLLINS: And update now on our breaking news tonight. Pope John Paul II was rushed to a Rome hospital late today, suffering from what the Vatican is calling an acute respiratory infection. And you are now looking live at the hospital where the pope is resting tonight. This is Gemelli Hospital. Earlier the Vatican had announced that the pope had canceled meetings for the next few days. At the time the Vatican said the pop had the flu. Now the official story is that the hospitalization was, quote, "urgently needed." The pope, of course, is the spiritual leader to the world's one billion Catholics.

CNN's Jim Bittermann takes a closer look now at the pontiff's impact.

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JIM BITTERMANN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Around the Vatican they like to boast that John Paul has personally made contact with more people than anyone else on Earth, 15 million alone according to estimates have attended his Wednesday audiences in Rome. Not to mention the millions and millions who have turned out to see him on his 102 trips.

Add to that the billions who have seen him on TV, and surely, the pope would qualify as the most recognizable figure on the planet. And how has he used that visibility? Some credit John Paul with precipitating the fall of communism, confronting dictators on human rights. With reaching to redressed division became religion. He has used his priestly pulpit to comfort the downtrodden as he has throughout the world and to confront the powerful, as he did most recently with British Prime Minister Tony Blair and U.S. president George Bush over the war in Iraq. Even some who know the pope's failings rate him a success.

You'd be hard pressed to find any global figure who has achieved 100 percent of the things they've set out to achieve. I think the measure of success really has to be fidelity to ones own vision and the capacity to make that vision real.

(on camera): There are many, of course, who do not agree with the pope's vision. Even some members of his college of cardinals say that, John Paul's quarter century has left the church with numerous internal problems, declining number of congregations, declining number of priests, a major sex abuse scandal. And a congregation divided on such issues as the role of women in the church, abortion and birth control.

(voice-over): Yet, the sheer length of his reign has permitted John Paul to set large goals and achievement them. Goals based on principles beyond those of a modern world often driving by profit and provocation. The pope has used communications in a way no human being ever has, hoping to move the world in an entirely different direction. No army, just his moral megaphone, as they call it around the Vatican.

Jim Bittermann, CNN, Vatican City.

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COLLINS: And for the latest now on the pope's condition, let's go live to Rome and CNN's Vatican analyst, Delia Gallagher tonight. Delia, thanks for being with us. What does this news about the pope being in the hospital -- rushed to the hospital, in fact? What does it say to you? Are you surprised?

DELIA GALLAGHER, CNN VATICAN ANALYST: Well, yes, it's certainly unusual that he would be rushed to the hospital late at night. On the other hand, a note of caution should be sounded because we knew that he had the flu. So, if you consider that an 84-year-old man with the ailments that the pope has, having flu. Respiratory problems then brought on by that flu, it's only wise really that he would be brought to the hospital in order to try to deal with those respiratory problems. We saw him on Sunday, Heidi, and he looked fine. He sounded hoarse. But he was still quite strong physically and mentally as we know. So, the Vatican had canceled his public appearances and his meetings, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. So, we were prepared for that fact. In a sense, it's not a surprise because we knew he had the flu. On the other hand, one has to to consider, yes, it's unusual that he would be taken to the hospital. The Vatican says it's a precautionary pressure measure. And we have no reason to disbelieve that at this point.

COLLINS: As we speak, Delia, we're look at pictures when the pope was there with the general audience and the doves were released. And he seemed to be very alert when we look at those pictures. I understand there was a problem with the doves wanting to go back inside the Vatican there. Have the Vatican.

GALLAGHER: Yes, that's right.

COLLINS: Go ahead.

GALLAGHER: Yes, I was just going to say, there's a sign again of the pope's sort of strength and his sense of what's happening around him, et cetera. A lot of people like to say that he's not aware of what's going on. But you can see him batting away the doves there and having a good time doing it. So one has to consider, also, the underlying elements of pope's strength. And his doctors have said many times in the past he's very strong-willed and strong physically. Although he seems frail and the Parkinson's has brought him those difficulties of speech and movement. He does have strength there that will probably allow him overcome the flu. However, we have to wait and see what transpires in the next few hours, because of course, respiratory problems can create other problems. So, we'll just have to wait and see, Heidi.

COLLINS: We certainly will. All right. Thanks so much, CNN, Vatican analyst, Delia Gallagher tonight. Thanks Delia.

And another serious health condition, depression. 360 next, our special series. Tonight, are there foods that can improve your mood?

Also tonight, they're called men on the down low. They have wives or girlfriends but they also have what would could be a dangerous secret. We'll cover all the angles.

And a little later, he's got a team of lawyers and a gaggle of fans, but does Michael Jackson have a wardrobe consultant for his high stakes trail?

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COLLINS: You are about to meet a woman who thought she had it all, the perfect husband, the house, the kids. And then one day, she got the shock of her life. She discovered that her husband was living on the down low. Living a straight life with a big secret.

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COLLINS (voice-over): Brenda Browder married early, she was just 19, Jimmy was her first love. Together they made plans, bought a house and had two kids, Ebony (ph) and Brandon (ph).

BRENDA BROWDER, WIFE OF "DOWN LOW" AUTHOR: He was a loving father and a loving husband. People would look at us and say that's the perfect marriage.

COLLINS: After eight years of marriage, Brenda thought she knew Jimmy inside and out. Yet there were these troubling signs. Too many moments unaccounted for. She grew suspicious and starting looking around, until she found a bracelet with the inscription "for Melvin."

BROWDER: Why does he need to give a man jewelry? I should be the one getting jewelry. What's going on here? Are they lovers? What is happening, you know? Are they having sex together?

COLLINS: And she found out, they were.

BROWDER: I was crushed. I was hurt. I was confused. I didn't know what to do. I didn't know who to turn to.

COLLINS: Because of the stigma attached to homosexuality in the African-American community, she says few believed her. Her pastor advised her to stand by her man. She refused, and filed for divorce.

It took 20 years for Jimmy to admit he cheated on Brenda. Until last year, when he published this book, "On the Down Low: A Journey Into the Lives of Straight, Black Men Who Sleep With Men." The book was a success. Jimmy went on national television.

J.L. KING, BRENDA'S FORMER HUSBAND: The desire to have sex with the same gender has always been in my lifestyle.

COLLINS: Brenda decided to write her side of the story, "On the Up and Up," to raise awareness, she says, about the health risks men who live on the down low pose to their wives. But also, to find closure.

BROWDER: You wonder what else has happened, or what else is going on that I don't know about. So it's just a betrayal of trust, and it makes you feel -- you lose self-esteem during that process, and you have to get that back.

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COLLINS: We strive to cover all the angles on 360. So joining us tonight is an author and activist who says much of what the media reports about men on the down low is wrong, including the fact that it's only black men who are leading this kind of double life.

Keith Boykin is an openly gay man who served in the Clinton administration and is now the author of the new book, "Beyond the Down Low." Keith, thanks for being with us tonight. It's a pleasure to meet you.

Why do you think some black men are compelled, though, to live on the down low?

KEITH BOYKIN, AUTHOR, "BEYOND THE DOWN LOW": We create the conditions that encourage people to be on the down low. We have to think about how the TV shows that we watch, the comedians that we laugh at, the churches that we attend really contribute to the whole down low atmosphere. So we have a lot to do about making the down low in the first place.

COLLINS: Do you see a danger in this type of lifestyle, the way it's portrayed in the media?

BOYKIN: Sure. The down low is definitely -- it's an overblown story, first of all, but the down low is definitely an issue. There is a down low. There are black men who sleep with men, who do not identify as gay. But the truth is, it's really not the issue that we think it is. It's not the cause of the HIV/AIDS epidemic, which is really how the media got into the story in the first place. The danger is about deception, not about HIV/AIDS. There are many ways that people can be infected with AIDS, and the down low is just one way in which that happens.

COLLINS: Well, let's go back for just a minute. Explain to me exactly what the down low means. I mean, we have someone who is, let's say, a man, sleeping with another man, yet says he is not gay.

BOYKIN: Right. The down low refers to men who do not identify as gay but also engage in sexual activities with women and men. We called it the closet when white men did it. But when black men do it, now we call it -- we created a new, repackaged term called the down low, which is basically the same thing. You know, when Jim McGreevey came out last year and announced that he was gay and had been living in a relationship with a woman, his wife, at the same time sleeping with a man, no one ever said he was on the down low. We just called it what it is and moved on.

COLLINS: So who created the down low, though?

BOYKIN: The media created it, and a few people who decided to make some money off of it, for the purpose of...

COLLINS: So this is not the black culture that created it?

BOYKIN: Well, you know, the term itself has been around for quite some time, and it meant a lot of different things. But the down low, the idea of men sleeping with men, that's been going on since the beginning of time. That's not a new phenomenon at all.

The only thing that's new about it is that we're starting to talk about it, and we're using this as a connection for the HIV/AIDS issue. That's what we need to keep in perspective. Last year, in 2003, there were 7,000 black female AIDS cases, according to the CDC. Only 118 of them reported sex with a bisexual man as a cause of exposure. So there are many other risks that women need to be concerned about. Injection drug use, or heterosexual sex. There are a lot of other issues that we need to be concerned about, other than the down low. And there are a lot of solutions that we can be focused on, other than the sensationalistic, hyped-up talk about the down low.

COLLINS: All right. Well, Keith Boykin, we appreciate you being here tonight, and letting us know a little bit more about it.

BOYKIN: It's great to be here.

COLLINS: All right. Thanks so much.

360 next now, taking a bite out of the blues. How so-called happy foods may help keep depression away.

And a little later, Michael Jackson's legal look. Is his style courting disaster?

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COLLINS: If you break a leg or pull a muscle, you pretty much know right away, because your body tells you with pain. But did you know that your body might also tell you that you're depressed? Tonight as we continue our special series on conquering depression, Dr. Sanjay Gupta looks at the connection between mind and body.

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GUPTA (voice-over): A walk in the park is more like a trudge, and a nice day might be viewed in darker hues when 46-year-old Matt Grimes becomes depressed. MATT GRIMES, BATTLES DEPRESSION: Sometimes, I'm even struggling to make it out into the day. It's like I have to a lot of times push myself to get up and get going. Once I get going, normally I'm OK, but it's kind of like -- sometimes it's a real struggle to just do everyday things, you know.

GUPTA: His depression would have a tight grip on his mind and eventually his heart. Ten years ago, he was diagnosed with clinical depression. Six years later, blockages in his heart.

Dr. Viola Vaccarino believes there's a link. She heads a study at Emory University finding strong connections between markers for depression and later heart disease.

DR. VIOLA VACCARINO, EMORY UNIVERSITY: And the more depressed the people are, the more abnormalities we're finding.

GUPTA: No doubt, the mind and the body are connected. And we're proving it more than ever before. A recent study found that women with depression also had high levels of insulin resistance, which can lead to type II diabetes. And a National Institute of Health study finds that women who were depressed had significantly higher rates of bone mass loss than women who were not depressed.

DR. PHILIP GOLD, NIH: Premenopausal women who were quite young, who've had episodes of major depression had lost a significant amount of bone. Some enough bone that would qualify for osteoporosis.

GUPTA: One reason may be that depressed people generate large amounts of a hormone called cortisol. It's released when you're stressed and when you're depressed.

GOLD: And depression where this -- stress response gets locked in the on position, then bone is lost really over time and perhaps continually, and ultimately, enough bone is lost so it becomes pathological.

GUPTA: And the result is depression of body's immune system, the body's ability to fiend off the disease.

MATT GRIMES, BATTLES DEPRESSION: I think when the spirit is broken, it affects your bodily function. Are.

GUPTA: As Matt Grimes has discovered, he's turned to both mental and physical therapy in a hope for brighter future.

Dr. Sanjay Gupta, CNN, Atlanta.

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COLLINS: One way to get your body to overcome it's depression is to feed it. But don't go running for the Twinkies and chocolate just yet, there are some healthy foods that can make your body and mind feel better.

Joining me from Portland, Oregon to discuss these really happy meals is registered dietitian Elizabeth Somer. She's the author of "Food and Mood," the complete guide to eating well and feeling your very best.

Thanks so much for being with us, Elizabeth. I want start by looking at the foods that people should avoid. In fact, you're saying key stressers are sugar and caffeine, so I will not tell you what I had just before the show started. Even though some people think, that in the short-term, these types of food lift their spirits or their energy?

ELIZABETH SOMER, AUTHOR "FOOD & MOOD": That's right, the quick fixes. The things we go to do give us a temporary lift, but it's just that, a temporary lift. In the long run, that lift is followed by a crash. And then within an hour or two you feel worse or just as bad as you did before, and you end up creating this spiral where you go back to the coffee or back to the cola, go back to the sweets for that rush again. And you ride this roller coaster ride that fuels your depression and your fatigue, rather than lifting you out of it.

COLLINS: But we're not just talking about fatigue or stress. I mean, we're talking about depression. So, tell me where it changes from just feeling tired and it moves all the way to depression and something that should really be treated?

SOMER: Well, it's a whole continuum. Fatigue and depression go hand in hand. You never see a perky depressed person. So -- and some people just battle just everyday blues, some people have clinical depression. But what we do know is that studies find regardless -- there are studies from the University of Southern Alabama that have found, that if you cut out caffeine and sugar, up to two-thirds of people with clinical depression report that first their fatigue began to lift, and then their depression begins to improve as well.

COLLINS: Really.

SOMER: And keep in mind, we are consuming more sugar than any living creature has ever consumed in the history of this planet, about 30 teaspoons of added sugar a day. And it's in foods that aren't even sweet. You know, there's three to four teaspoons of sugar in flavored oatmeal. There's up to nine teaspoons of sugar in soda pop. Seven teaspoons of sugar in sweetened yogurt.

COLLINS: Let's talk about some of the nutrients and mood supports then, that have a beneficial affect on mood, if you will. They include omega 3 acid, folic acid and B vitamins, Complex carbohydrates and water. Take us through these.

SOMER: Along with getting rid of the caffeine and the sugar, start focusing on the mood boosters. The omega 3s are the fats that you find in, say, fatty fish like salmon. And we have evidence now to show that possibly consuming two to three servings of fish or taking fish oil capsules of about one gram of omega 3s every day can lift mood over the long haul. Now, it wont' be, you eat fish for lunch and you feel better by dinner. But in the long haul, that you'll have a better mood, less likely to develop depression, possibly even lower risk for things like suicide. Then there's the folic acid, B12, B6, or 3D vitamins, that also have been associated with mood. When those nutrients are low, we see an increased risk for depression. When their high, a lower risk.

COLLINS: Sure. So, Elizabeth, before we let you go, I want to make sure you that are able to hit -- the one thing that people can do as far as a quick fix for keeping their mood up?

SOMER: You know, there is no quick fix when it comes to mood and eating. It's how you eat over the long haul. But one thing you can do is eat breakfast. People who eat breakfast, And I'm not talking about a donut and coffee. I'm walking about say, a bowl of whole grain cereal with a glass of orange juice, have better mood, less likely to battle fatigue, less likely to battle even thinking problems over the long haul. So, make sure that you start the day off with something as simple as five minute breakfast of a bowl of cereal.

COLLINS: Got it. We appreciate your time very much, Elizabeth Somer, a registered dietitian for us here tonight. Thanks again, Elizabeth.

SOMER: Thank you.

COLLINS: Now, let's go ahead and find out what's going on at the top of the hour on "PAULA ZAHN NOW." Paula, good evening.

PAULA ZAHN, HOST "PAULA ZAHN NOW": Good evening, Heidi. For the record, my boxed meal made me very happy tonight, a burger.

COLLINS: That sounds great.

ZAHN: ... Mood up there high. All right. Tomorrow, as you know, the president gives the State of the Union Address. And tonight, we're going to look at the state of the union far outside the beltway. What we found in the American heartland are ordinary people doing extraordinary things, building new lives in the face of a changing economy, taking charge of the communities, looking for ways to bridge political and cultural divides. We call our showed tonight, the state of the states. And if you want to know what America's made of tonight, all you've got to watch are some of the people you'll meet a little bit later on tonight.

COLLINS: Looking forward to it. Paula, thank you. There's more 360 after the break.

Plus, tomorrow, kids on heroin. It's a rapidly growing problem that can wipe out dreams and lives. How your child can fall victim to a drug that's become more addictive.

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COLLINS: Besides jury selection, we've been noticing another selection process taking place at the trial of the Michael Jackson, his wardrobe.

Who better to check it out than CNN's Jeanne Moos.

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JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Michael Jackson's look inspired comedian Chris Rock to compare him to Captain Crunch. Is Michael courting disaster by what he's wearing to court. One New York tabloid described him as "Snow White" Jackco.

ROBERT VERDI, FASHION ANALYST: It's the proclamation of innocence. Virgin white, that's what women wear on their wedding day even if it's inappropriate.

MOOS: Some of Michael's accessory really irked defense attorneys, like the metal belt he wore. He could lose the giggling coin belt, then their's the umbrella.

JAYNE WEINTRAUB, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Where he walks like Marry Poppins, no. He needs to lose that. He's not the president of the United States in a rainstorm, he's Michael Jackson walking into court for his life.

MOOS: Most attorneys like to tone down their clients, from P. Diddy, to the Menendez Brother. Amber Frey got a makeover, before and after. So did Scott Peterson, but his makeover was self-engineered. Martha Stewart got picked on for carrying a 6,500 Airmez (ph) bag to court.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She's wearing an expensive bag, an expensive fur and an expensive attorney.

MOOS: Such snipping caused one Martha fan to snap over the perceived double standard?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did you media what suit Ken Lay had? Was it an Armani or a Calvin Klein?

MOOS: He talks, but we know Michael Jackson wasn't wearing Brooks Brothers.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I especially like on this one.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The matching band-aids.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Very nice touch

MOOS: An then there are the arm bands. Sometimes, they're said to be biblical references. Once Michael said they stand for the suffering of children.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He's got more arm bands than other guys have ties.

MOOS: Actually his arm bands sometimes match his ties. Some defendants are so riveting, you don't even notice what their wearing. But even Saddam Hussein got cleaned up for his day in court. We learned from Anna Nicole Smith there are some clients you can dress up, but you still can't take them out.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Have you been taking acting lessons?

ANNA NICOLE SMITH, ENTERTAINER: (UNINTELLIGIBLE)

MOOS: And we can only imagine what Perry Mason would say about Michael Jackson's legal look.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Wow.

MOOS: Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.

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COLLINS: Ouch. Thanks for watching, everybody. I'm Heidi Collins in for Anderson Cooper tonight. CNN's prime time coverage continues with "PAULA ZAHN NOW" -- Paula.

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