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Prince Charles to Wed Camilla Parker Bowles; 'Family Secrets': Addiction to Porn
Aired February 10, 2005 - 19:00 ET
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ANDERSON COOPER, HOST: Good evening from New York. I'm Anderson Cooper.
Wedding bells for Prince Charles. His long-time mistress says, I will.
360 starts now.
COOPER: Prince Charles and Camilla Parker Bowles announce they'll marry. The date is set. But is this a royal insult to the late Princess Diana?
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It confirms everything that Princess Diana always said, that this was always going to happen.
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COOPER: Tonight, we take you behind the headlines. Who is the real Camilla? And was she responsible for the breakup of Charles and Diana?
Her parents call it a miracle. Twenty years after being hit by a drunk driver, a silent woman finally speaks.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sara's (ph) back. And that's the best gift in the world.
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COOPER: A 14-year-old girl falls down a 40-foot cliff. Rescuers rush to save her life. Tonight, we take you to the cliff's edge for a remarkable rescue, caught on tape.
Our special series, Family Secrets. Tonight, a husband's secret life, how he overcame his addiction to porn.
And we take you behind the scenes of New York's Fashion Week, the supermodels, the clothes, up close and personal with Carson Kressley.
ANNOUNCER: Live from the CNN Broadcast Center in New York, this is ANDERSON COOPER 360. COOPER: And good evening again.
We begin tonight with news of a royal wedding. Some 24 years ago, the world watched what the media called a fairytale wedding, Prince Charles and Princess Diana, a lavish church wedding beamed around the world from St. Paul's Cathedral in London.
We know now, of course, that when the cameras turned off, the crowds departed, life for the royal couple was anything but a fairytale. There was tragedy, of course, but before that, there was betrayal, Prince Charles's affair with another woman.
Today, that woman, Camilla Parker Bowles, and Prince Charles announced they will be married. And tonight, almost eight years after Diana's death and after many more years of speculation, the couple made their first public appearance together since the announcement.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How are you feeling, ma'am?
CAMILLA PARKER BOWLES: All right.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just all right?
PARKER BOWLES: I've just about, I'm just coming down to earth.
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COOPER: Well, the happy couple was applauded as they walked into a Windsor Castle reception tonight. Along with her hot pink gown, Parker Bowles was wearing an engagement ring. We're told it's a royal family heirloom, a platinum band with a square-cut central diamond and three diamond baguettes, whatever those are, on each side. We're not sure how many carats. We're imagining quite a lot.
CNN's Fionnuala Sweeney begins our coverage of this latest twist in a longstanding royal romance.
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FIONNUALA SWEENEY, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Prince Charles, reacting to well-wishers shortly after the announcement that he and his longtime lover, Camilla Parker Bowles, are to marry, a statement from Charles' office and residence, Clarence House, putting an official seal on a romance spanning four decades.
The couple, seen here in a photograph released to accompany the announcement, will marry in April at Windsor Castle outside London in a largely private civil ceremony and not a Church of England service.
The British monarch is supreme governor of the Anglican Church, and a religious ceremony for Charles and Camilla, as divorcees, would have been impossible.
However, the wedding will be blessed afterward by the archbishop of Canterbury, the culmination of months of diplomatic maneuvering between church leaders, Buckingham Palace, and Downing Street.
TONY BLAIR, BRITISH PRIME MINISTER: I'm delighted for the Prince of Wales and Camilla Parker Bowles. It's very happy news. And when the cabinet heard it this morning, they sent congratulations and good wishes on behalf of the whole government. We all wish them every happiness for their future together.
SWEENEY: However, Parker Bowles will not become queen should Charles assume the throne. She will be known as the Duchess of Cornwall and ultimately the Princess Consort, an acknowledgment, perhaps, that the impending marriage is a sensitive one for the church, the monarchy, and the British public, which held Charles's first wife, Diana, Princess of Wales, in huge public affection, a (UNINTELLIGIBLE) not lost on the couple.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Perhaps the biggest fear that they have the lack of popularity of Mrs. Parker Bowles. But this is a couple that are very much in love. They've shown -- have a committed and loving relationship for many years.
SWEENEY (on camera): A relationship which began 35 years ago will be formalized at a civil ceremony April. But doubtless the ghost of Diana will hover in the background, evoking memories of another wedding and prompting debate about which is the real fairytale.
Fionnuala Sweeney, CNN, Buckingham Palace.
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COOPER: Well, we now know, of course, that even as she walked down the aisle that day in 1981, Diana was miserable. She already suspected the marriage would be tainted by her husband's relationship with Camilla Parker Bowles.
Many years later, on tapes recorded by her biographer, Diana said this about her wedding day, and I quote, "I was very calm, very deathly calm. I felt as though I was a lamb going to the slaughter. As I walked up the aisle I was looking for her. I spotted Camilla." At another point, Diana referred to Camilla Parker Bowles as a Rottweiler who had wrecked her marriage.
So who is this woman, Camilla Parker Bowles?
CNN's Becky Anderson takes us behind the headlines.
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BECKY ANDERSON, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): They're the couple that practically define the phrase star-crossed. The upcoming marriage of Prince Charles and Camilla Parker Bowles has been 35 years in the making.
The Prince of Wales and the soon-to-be Duchess of Cornwall first met at a polo match in 1970. He was off to join the Royal Navy. And, three years later, Camilla married cavalry officer Andrew Parker Bowles. The woman Princess Diana once referred to as "the Rottweiler" certainly had the right pedigree, born in London, educated at the elite Queensgate School and finishing schools in Switzerland and in France. Apparently, the pair didn't let her marriage stand in the way of their friendship. Rumors abound that Camilla helped Charles choose a suitable wife, and that the prince proposed to Diana in Camilla's vegetable garden.
But Charles and Diana's fairytale wedding soon turned into a royal nightmare. And, as the war of the Windsors played out in the press, Camilla become a public pariah. Diana blamed her for ruining her marriage.
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DIANA, PRINCESS OF WALES: Well, there were three of us in this marriage, so it was a bit crowded.
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ANDERSON: And interfering in her life.
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DIANA: Our honeymoon, we have our white-tie dinner for President Sadat, cufflinks arrive on his wrists, two C's entwined, like the Chanel C.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, right.
DIANA: Got it in one. Knew exactly. So I said, "Camilla gave you those, didn't she?" He said, "Yes."
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ANDERSON: And finally, Charles chose a television interview to confess his infidelity.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you try to be faithful and honorable to your wife when you took on the vow of marriage?
PRINCE CHARLES: Yes. Absolutely.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And you were?
PRINCE CHARLES: Yes. Until it become irretrievably broken down.
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ANDERSON: The couple divorced in 1996. And when Diana died in a Paris tunnel in 1997, Camilla crept from the spotlight. Until 1999, that is, when she and Charles were photographed together for the first time. This is truly a case of romantic history repeating. Camilla's great-grandmother, Alice Keppel, was the mistress of Charles's great- great grandfather, King Edward VII.
Still, the public's devotion to Diana will deny Camilla the use of the title Princess of Wales and will keep her from becoming queen should Charles ascend to the throne. Alas, Camilla will only be called her royal highness, the Princess Consort.
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ANDERSON: Anderson, this must be the longest courtship in modern history, just shy of some 40 years. And I'm not sure many women would hang around for 40 years, even if they did think they were going to be queen. As I've just suggested, though, Camilla won't be queen, she will be Princess Consort if indeed Prince Charles does become king, (UNINTELLIGIBLE) she'll be known as her royal highness, the Duchess of Cornwall.
And as I suggested in that report, families do have a history. Famously, at a London nightclub in 1972, Camilla was dancing with Charles. And he said, and I quote, "My grand-grandmother was your great-grandfather's mistress. So how about it?" That is one of the famous quotes that's doing the rounds today in the U.K.
The timing of this announcement is being what many people in the U.K. have been quite surprised about today, not the fact that it is going to happen, but the actual timing of this announcement. And some skepticism as to whether this is just for a feel-good factor ahead of the probable May 5 elections for the Labour Party here in the U.K. Who knows, Anderson?
COOPER: It has certainly been a long time coming. Becky Anderson, thanks very much for that from London tonight.
For more now on the reaction to this latest development in royal romance, I'm joined from Los Angeles by one of the leading royal watchers, Richard Mineards, a correspondent for the "London Daily Express."
Richard, good to see you.
RICHARD MINEARDS, "LONDON DAILY EXPRESS": Yes, (UNINTELLIGIBLE)...
COOPER: The British, the British public never really been infatuated with Camilla Parker Bowles, to say the least. I, there's a profile of her in today's "London Times." I think it started off by saying, "Camilla will never be queen or England nor England's queen of hearts." Where is British public opinion on this announcement today?
MINEARDS: Well, I, in recent opinion polls, the British have said, 60 percent of them, that they would approve of Charles marrying Camilla. I think there's a lot to do with the semantics here. The title, Duchess of Cornwall, as opposed to Princess of Wales. And the fact that when she -- Charles becomes king, which he undoubtedly will, that she will not be queen, but princess consort.
And I think this is obviously avoiding criticism and controversy later on in his reign. Obviously people still high, hold Diana in high regard. She was quite an icon. But I think eight years have now elapsed. Time is a great healer. And Charles would not have gone through with this if he thought the British public was against it.
And the opinion polls of late show they're very much for it. And not only that, but his mother approves. And more importantly, the two boys, Harry and William, approve, because they want their father to be happy and they know he's only happy with Camilla by his side.
COOPER: Well, I was going to say, I mean, had they, I mean, do they hang out together? Do the children and she, I mean, do they do family events together?
MINEARDS: Yes, they do get together. But you've got to remember, of course, that Prince William is a student at St. Andrews University. And during his gap year after leaving Eaton, Prince Harry has been going around the world doing charitable work, and in May, goes to the Royal Military Academy at Sandhurst.
So they're not very much together as the family, even with their dad. But when they do get together, they do have tea with Camilla. I think they understand her now. It's been a healing process. But we're now eight years on. Charles and Camilla are in their mid-50s. And people want to see them happy.
But I think very much that with this decision comes the official status that goes with it, because a couple of months back, Charles withdrew from the wedding of the Duke of Westminster's daughter when he found out that Camilla was not to be allowed to sit with him, that he would be sitting with his mother, as befits his status, and Camilla was to be shoved to the back of the cathedral during the ceremony.
And later this year, they're coming to America. So I think he wants to put this on an official footing so that they're very much on par with each other, and she will not suffer the ignominy of being shoved to the back of whatever it is.
COOPER: But it's going to be a private wedding, a private affair, it's not going to be like we saw with Princess Diana.
MINEARDS: Very much small scale. I mean, in 1981, they had 3,000 guests. The ceremony was watched by 3 billion people. But this time, of course, it will not seen by the public. It will be a small family occasion in the confines of Windsor Castle, with a blessing by the Archbishop of Canterbury, who's the head of the Anglican Church in Britain. And that will be it.
I mean, he wants to keep this very small scale. But he does want to marry Camilla. And I think he's only done this because he feels that public opinion is with him, because it is the British public, of course, that keeps the royal family going.
COOPER: It certainly is. Richard Mineards, appreciate you joining us. Thanks.
MINEARDS: My pleasure.
COOPER: Here in the U.S., a prominent civil rights lawyer is convicted of helping a terrorist. That tops our look at news cross- country right now.
In New York, a jury found this woman, Lynne Stewart, guilty of conspiring with terrorists. Prosecutors said Stewart transmitted messages of hate from a jailed radical sheik to his fanatic supporters in Egypt. Stewart says she was only zealously advocating for her client. She could face 20 years in prison.
In Los Angeles now, no love for Courtney. The troubled singer pleaded no contest today to an assault charge stemming from an incident at her ex-boyfriend's house last year. Under a plea deal, Love agreed to anger management counseling and random drug testing. She was also placed on three years' probation.
We take you to Richmond, Virginia, now. Riding low in the saddle will not cost you 50 bucks after all. Today, state lawmakers dropped their droopy-pants bill, saying all the publicity became embarrassing. We can understand why. The proposed law would fine anyone caught wearing jeans so low that underwear is visible in a lewd or indecent manner. So it goes.
That's a quick look at stories right now cross-country.
360 next, a woman suddenly speaks again 20 years after a drunk (UNINTELLIGIBLE) driver put her in the hospital and silenced her. We have the details of her amazing awakening.
Plus, the Zoloft defense. Did a drug-induced mania drive a teenager to kill his grandparents? Or is he a killer without the drugs? We go live to the courthouse for the latest.
Also tonight, a dramatic cliff rescue. A 14-year-old plucked from the edge of a cliff.
All that ahead. First, your picks, the most popular stories right now on CNN.com.
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COOPER: Well, some would say that Jim and Betty Scantlon (ph) just experienced a miracle. That's what they say, at least. Twenty years ago, their 18-year-old daughter Sara was run down by a drunk driver. She was left unable to speak. In all the time since, Sara never uttered a word, and the Scantlons thought they would never hear from her again.
That is, until they got a phone call Friday night.
CNN's David Mattingly takes up their story.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) DAVID MATTINGLY, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The last time Sara Scantlon was able to speak, it was more than 20 years ago, the moment she walked into the glaring lights of a drunk driver. The hit- and-run left her battered, broken, and unable to speak.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She knows who we are, and she can't communicate with us.
MATTINGLY: John Moore (ph), now a police detective, was a witness to Sara's hit-and-run.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We saw her fly through the air probably at least 20 feet into the air, and landed on her head.
MATTINGLY: It happened here, on a dark, two-lane road outside their hometown at Hutchinson (ph), Kansas, as they left a party.
(on camera): When you saw that accident, did you think that there was any way she could survive?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, I thought she was probably -- if she wasn't dead, she was going to probably die.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The phone rings about midnight. My wife answers it, pulls my big toe and says, We've got to get to the hospital. Something bad's happened to Sara.
MATTINGLY: But now, more than 20 years later, and 38 years old, her family calls her a medical miracle, as she suddenly regained the ability to talk.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She got on the phone and she said, Hi, Dad. And she's, again, 100 percent Sara. She's using of all her capacity to the maximum. And that's a real inspiration. Sara's back. And that's the best gift in the world.
MATTINGLY: David Mattingly, CNN, Hutchinson, Kansas.
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COOPER: "Sara's back," the words of a father who never thought he'd be able to say that.
CNN senior medical correspondent, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, joins us to talk about this.
Sanjay, how common is this?
SANJAY GUPTA, CNN SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, it's very uncommon, Anderson. Sounded like she had a condition that in neurosurgery we call aphasia. She just wasn't able to speak. Sounds like she was able to understand speech, but not able to speak at all, really, for 20 years. Most neurosurgeons, most people who study this, be very surprised that she would get that back. So very uncommon.
COOPER: It's the kind of story, though, you know, gives hope to every family who has a loved one in a coma or in a vegetative state, or in any kind of condition like this. I mean, should it give hope to people?
GUPTA: Yes, you know, I think what it really says more than anything else is, there's a lot of things about the brain that we just still don't know. We are learning every day new things about the brain.
Typically, what most doctors, neurosurgeons, would tell somebody is that about after 18 months to two years or so, it's unlikely that someone is going to make significant gains with regards to things like this. So certainly 20 years later, this is something that is quite remarkable, something that certainly people will write up in the medical journals for sure.
It's hard to say about the hope, though, because you don't want to give false hope either, Anderson.
COOPER: Yes, (UNINTELLIGIBLE), the father says, you know, Sara was back when he heard her on the phone. She was sort of back to her old self. I mean, is she going to get back to her old self? Obviously she's, you know, she's, as you can see her, you know, in a tough condition, and has been for 20 years.
GUPTA: Yes, I mean, you know, the way that I would classify someone with Sara, someone who has a significant head injury, who had a significant aphasia as well, meaning, again, the inability to speak, who is still recovering even 20 years later. You know, again, based on what we typically classify these things, I wouldn't say that she's going to get back to normal. I just couldn't say that in good confidence, although, again, she's broken some rules here. So who's to say what she's going to look like a year or two years from now, Anderson?
COOPER: She's obviously got a lot of spirit. Amazing story.
Thanks very much, Sanjay, appreciate it.
GUPTA: Thank you.
COOPER: Coming up next on 360, an alleged Valentine's Day suicide pact. Police arrest a man suspected of organizing people around the United States to try to take their own lives. We're going to speak to the sheriff who cracked the case.
Also tonight, the Zoloft defense. Can antidepressants be blamed for murder? We'll get the latest in the case of a teenager who killed his grandparents. He was only 12 when he did it. Find out what a former FDA psychiatrist said today on the stand.
Also ahead, pulled from the edge. Dramatic rescue of a girl who fell 40 feet down a cliff. She was hanging there. All of it was caught on tape. We'll bring you that. Covering all the angles.
Be right back.
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COOPER: A truly bizarre story out of Oregon now about the arrest of a man by the name of Gerald Krien. That's him there. He's 26, of Klamath Falls, who allegedly used a Web site to coordinate a Valentine's Day mass suicide. Thirty-two people evidently agreed to take part. Police are now searching for them. This is happening as we speak.
Klamath County Sheriff Timothy Evinger joins us now with the latest.
Sheriff, how did police find out about this alleged suicide pact?
SHERIFF TIMOTHY EVINGER, KLAMATH COUNTY, WASHINGTON: Well, my investigators were acting on a tip, which was based out of Canada, of an individual who was going to take part in this and got basically cold feet.
COOPER: And that individual, that (UNINTELLIGIBLE), you're not talking about Krien here.
EVINGER: No, no. There was a person who had participated in a chat room that Mr. Krien had set up, and this individual had participated in that chat room along with what we believe to be at least 32 other people. There could be more. And we're very interested in finding those other people who may have made this pact with Mr. Krien.
COOPER: And do you know, I mean, how they were planning on carrying this out, what the details of it are?
EVINGER: We have some sketchy details at this point about how they were going to carry it out. Obviously we're still amidst the investigation here, and really would like to get a little bit further along before we release that information.
COOPER: Is there a stuff you can say about this guy Gerald Krien? I understand he harass no criminal background. What else do you know about him?
EVINGER: Yes, we believe he moved to our area out of northern California about a year ago, and that he had -- we believe that he may have set up a chat room previously. This is not his first attempt. But I think this might be the first time that he had some takers. And one really got scared and contacted us.
COOPER: Do you know, I mean, are there religious undertones, cult undertones to this?
EVINGER: We're not seeing any religious undertones or cult, if you will, undertones at this time. Basically, this individual was, I think, looking for some people with some similar ideology of committing suicide and doing it together via the Internet.
COOPER: And are you sure, I mean, this isn't some hoax, some Internet hoax? EVINGER: Well, we're certainly taking it seriously. There was some mention by one of the participants that she was going to kill her two children before she took her own life. And we're desperately searching,, trying to locate that individual. And based on the fact that we believe the tip that we got was credible, from an individual who was going to partake in this suicide, that we believe it to be true. And we're not going to take any chances.
COOPER: I understand also you've subpoenaed some Internet providers. Where, or can you say where the investigation's gone for here?
EVINGER: I believe it's going to be multifaceted, that it'll be more than one step here. We've got the subpoenas out to the Internet providers. Obviously we're trying to capture information, e-mails, maybe some chat information, and then we'll be issuing some further subpoenas, I'm certain, through the district attorney's office, to ascertain who the other individuals were, where they are, and try to deem them safe in the communities wherever they are, probably somewhere in North America.
COOPER: The investigation's ongoing. Sheriff Evinger, I appreciate you joining us. Thanks very much.
EVINGER: Thank you.
COOPER: Believe it or not, suicide pacts such as the one we've been talking about have been recent problem in Japan. Earlier this month, nine people were found dead in two cars outside Tokyo in what were believed to be the latest in a series of group suicides among people who were strangers to one another but had made their arrangements on the Internet. As it is, Japan has the highest suicide rate in the industrialized world, with 24.1 suicides per 100,000 people each year, according to the U.N.'s World Health Organization.
In justice served tonight, tomorrow morning a jury in Charleston, South Carolina, could actually get the case of Chris Pittman, the 15- year-old charged with shooting his grandparents to death when he was 12. The defense blames the murder on the antidepressant drug Zoloft. Today, it called its final witness.
Here's CNN's Elizabeth Cohen.
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JUDGE DANIEL PEEPER, CHARLESTON COUNTY, SOUTH CAROLINA: (UNINTELLIGIBLE) tell me the facts in People versus Conley (ph), Illinois case.
ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): In the law school case Judge Daniel Peeper teaches, on this day, the subject is state of mind.
PEEPER: An act does not make one guilty unless the mind is guilty, that is, unless the intent is criminal. COHEN: And in his court, on the very same day, that's the issue at hand in the trial of Chris Pittman, who was 12 years old when he shot and killed his grandparents while taking the antidepressant Zoloft. The case has become a battle of psychiatrists.
The final defense witness, a retired FDA psychiatrist.
DR. RICHARD KAPIT, DEFENSE PSYCHIATRIST: I believe he did not have the ability to form criminal intent on that date due to the intoxication with Zoloft.
COHEN: Dr. Richard Kapit was involved in the FDA's approval process for this class of drugs. Now, he says, the murders bore the signs of a mind out of control.
KAPIT: I think it's clear, if you read the description of what happened, that this was done all in a rapid, frantic, highly excited state of mind. All of those things are characteristic of mania.
COHEN: The prosecution psychiatrist told a completely different story. Dr. Pamela Crawford said the boy told her he waited until his grandparents went to sleep before entering their bedroom with a shotgun.
DR. PAMELA CRAWFORD, PROSECUTOR PSYCHIATRIST: That's significant. He -- it shows planning. It shows some, at least, some clear thought.
COHEN: She met with Chris just two weeks after the killings. She says he told her he burned down the house to have time to get away.
CRAWFORD: It shows not only that he knew it was wrong, that he knew that it was legally wrong to do this, that he knew there would be some consequence.
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COHEN: We've just learned that more witnesses are expected to testify tomorrow, and that closing arguments are expected Monday, Anderson.
COOPER: Is there any sense of, I mean, where the jury is headed on this thing (UNINTELLIGIBLE), how attentively they've been watching this trial?
COHEN: There is really no way to read the minds of those jurors. But it is interesting -- it will be interesting to see if they could follow all this testimony. There have been thoughts about serotonin and transmitters, and myelin sheaths and lots of talks about how the brain operates. And it will be interesting to hear later from these jurors if they were able to follow all of that.
COOPER: All right. Elizabeth Cohen covering the trial. Thanks very much, Elizabeth.
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COOPER (voice-over): A 14-year-old girl falls down a 40-foot cliff. Rescuers rush to save her life. Tonight, we take you to the cliff's edge for a remarkable rescue caught on tape.
Our special series "Family Secrets." Tonight, a husband's secret life. How he overcame his addiction to porn.
And we take you behind the scenes of New York's Fashion Week. The super models, the clothes, up close and personal with Carson Cresley.
360 continues.
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COOPER: A tense scene there as a 14-year-old girl, frozen with fear was clinging for dear life to the sheer face of a cliff. As you can see rescuers inching closer toward her. It all started on an ordinary afternoon. It went very bad, very quickly.
She was reading near the back yard of her cliffside home when she started to slide down. CNN's Miguel Marquez picks up the story.
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MIGUEL MARQUEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): 14-year-old Justine Rodriguez clings to a washed out hillside behind her home. Everytime she moves the dried mud below her gives way. She's already slid at least 100 feet. A few feet more will take her over an edge that could mean her death. Her mother Jessica Rodriguez can't even bring herself to say what could have happened.
JESSICA RODRIGUEZ, MOTHER: I thought I was going to see her slide off and -- you know, I mean, yes.
MARQUEZ: Rodriguez was in the shower as her daughter called out for help. Justin Siler, a family friend, just happened to be in the right place at the right time.
JUSTIN SILER, FAMILY FRIEND: I heard her say help me, help me. And I just took off running down the hill.
MARQUEZ: Siler was able to get a garden hose to Rodriguez, but it was her that kept him calm.
SILER: She told me not to cry. I started to cry. And she said, don't cry, Justin, don't cry. She was just clinging to it.
MARQUEZ: Wait, she was telling you down there.
SILER: Yes. I love her to death. She's a good kid. I was scared. I didn't want anything to happen to her.
MARQUEZ: As the seconds ticked away, the wait for rescue seemed forever. In reality it's just a few minutes.
RODRIGUEZ: She said, what's taking them so long. She could feel the dirt shifting underneath her.
MARQUEZ (on camera): I want to give you an idea how this played out. Justine's house is right over here. She was sitting just a few feet away from where I'm standing right now. She slipped down this hill, about 150 feel, to where you see that black hose. Below that, about is 100 feet of sheer cliff to the bottom.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, she -- actually, you should see her shoes. She had worn through parts of her leather shoes trying to stop.
MARQUEZ: L.A. County Sheriff's Deputies were first on the scene. One deputy, lying on his belly, climbs out as close as he can and talks to the 14-year-old.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Her fingertips were bloody from stopping herself from falling.
MARQUEZ: Finally, an L.A. County fire rescuer inches his way to Justine who by this time is so scared she can't even grab the garden house. The cliff gives way in little bits, every step, just a few feet from the edge.
RODRIGUEZ: I don't know what it was. I really honestly don't know what it was that saved her, that stopped her from falling, because, she wasn't hanging on to anything.
MARQUEZ: Justine, he legs now asleep, held on long enough for the rescuer to get a harness around her.
Now the hard part, another L.A. County fire rescuer dangles from a rope the rotor wash from the chopper overhead blows tumbleweeds, debris and dust over the 2 clinging to the cliff. They manage to hold on as the rescuer, using hand signals, communicates with the chopper pilot.
SCOTT REIFF, KABC CHOPPER PILOT: It can be extremely difficult to get them exactly right on the hillside, not slam them into it.
MARQUEZ: Finally, the rescuer gets to Justine, clips to the harness that's already been placed around her and she's carried into a neighbor's yard. Other than bloody fingers and a few scrapes, she's fine. Already back home. But no longer venturing into the backyard, at least for now.
Miguel Marquez, CNN, Hacienda Heights, California.
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COOPER: Off to Glouster, Massachusetts, an update on another daring rescue. Here's a quick news note, as we told you yesterday, a Coast Guard helicopter, we showed you this video, had plucked 3 men, one by one, from 39 degree ocean water after their fishing boat sank. It turns out one of the survivors is familiar with tragedy at sea. His brother was one of the fishermen that died on the Andrea Gail when it sank back in 1991. Of course the story was portrayed in the book and later the film, "The Perfect Storm."
North Korea threatens to bolster its nuclear arsenal. That tops our look at global stories right now in the "Uplink." In Pyongyang, North Korea their official news agency says the country quote, "manufactured nukes for self-defense." It is the first time North Korea has publicly said they have nuclear arms. The Communist nation says its also pulling out of six-party nuclear talks, because of what it calls U.S. threats to topple its political system. The U.S. and other countries have condemned the announcement.
The Vatican now. Pope John Paul II rides his pope mobile home from the hospital. A papal spokesman says the 84-year-old pontiff has recovered from his respiratory problems, and that his general health continues to improve. The pope normally takes a break from public activities during lent so he'll have a chance to regain his strength before Easter celebrations next month.
London, England now. A nude Kate Moss generating big bucks. It's a painting of the super model made by Lucien Freud, during her pregnancy. It was sold at auction for the equivalent of $6.5 million. She's obviously a very well-known artist. The winning bid was made by an anonymous telephone caller.
That's a quick look at stories in the "Uplink."
360 next, a Sunday schoolteacher who was addicted to porn, and, it almost cost him everything. We're going to hear how he battled back, part of our special series, "Family Secrets."
Plus, Carson Cresley. He's saucey. He takes a look at the New York's Fashion Week, behind the scenes with Mr. Cresley.
And, a little later, life in the fast lane ends for a wild turkey. That's right. We're going to take that to the "Nth Degree." Gobble, gobble.
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COOPER: Coming up, a man who is hooked on porn. Find out how he overcame his addiction. 360 next.
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COOPER: All this week, we've been taking a look at family secrets. All families have them, but often don't address them until it is too late. This man you're about to meet, seemed to have it all. Success, a loving wife, two kids. But, what people closest to him did not know, what his own family didn't know for awhile, that he was hooked on pornography. And getting his fix nearly cost him everything. CNN's Gary Tuchman has his story.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) GARY TUCHMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Playing cards on the computer a computer without Internet access. Banished from this house because of a husband who was addicted to pornography.
KEN, FORMER PORN ADDICT: To tell you, the grip it had on me, I can't put into words -- The power it has over you.
COLLEEN, WIFE: I would have divorced him, but I had two children to think of. And I would have been gone.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Don't be mean to that cat.
KEN: He's a good boy.
TUCHMAN: Ken, who doesn't want his family's last name used, because of the stigma, realizes he almost lost his family. He is one of hundreds of thousands of Americans, mostly men, but some women, who find their lives controlled by what Webster's Dictionaries call writings and pictures intended primarily to arose sexual desire.
KEN: Sometimes, I pray to God, help me to not do this. And 15 minutes later I was up to neck in it.
TUCHMAN: For Ken, a former Sunday school teacher, was often seven days a week of porn, as long as he could do it secretly. From the Internet, to adult magazines, to movies, to 25 cent peep shows.
KEN: And it's sad. It sounds hypocritical, but, while I was typing my Sunday school messages, to take a break, I would surf on pornography.
TUCHMAN: Ken couldn't stop. Keeping up a pace for the first 14 years of his marriage that left him despondent.
DOROTHY HAYDEN, PSYCHOTHERAPIST: It's been documented that the brain lets off certain chemicals, serotonin-dopamine that actually puts people into this very erotic haze. Or into the euphoric trance of the alcoholic or the drug addict.
TUCHMAN: Ken did everything he could to cover his tracks.
(on camera): Now, right over there is a topless club in your town. Did you ever feel the temptation to go there?
KEN: Well, believe it or not, the girl that cut my hair also worked there. So, I was afraid to go in there, because she would have seen me. And she also cut my wife's hair.
TUCHMAN (voice-over): Just like alcohol or drug addiction, denial is a major part of this type of addiction. Experts say, most people don't admit they're addicted until it's almost too late, or until it is too late. Ken's wife, Colleen, first got an inkling about what was going on, after seeing a pop up add on the computer.
COLLEEN: I want to click it off, and this thing said, can't download naked cheerleaders. And I went, oh my gosh. TUCHMAN: But, she didn't learn how it had taken over her husband's life until they both went into counseling.
COLLEEN: I was devastated. It really knocked me right out of my world.
TUCHMAN: Counseling helped Ken and Colleen. Group counseling comes highly recommended for porn and sex addicts.
HAYDEN: Go to a meeting and you don't have to talk. You just sit back and listen to other people share about their experience, so you get the feeling that you're not alone.
TUCHMAN: Ken says, he won't even look at a Victoria's Secret fashion show or catalog.
(on camera): Are you concerned that if you did watch an X-rated movie with somebodies or looked through an adult magazine, that you could became a porn addicted again?
KEN: Absolutely. Yes.
TUCHMAN: No doubt in your mind?
KEN: No doubt in my mind. No doubt in my mind.
TUCHMAN: Gary Tuchman, CNN, Rock Hill, South Carolina.
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Well, coming up next on 360, super models strutting the runway, and Carson Kressley strutting his own stuff. He takes us behind the scenes, behind the glamour of high fashion. What's that, anyway?
A little later, turkey trouble, small town morning the bird that will gobble gobble no more. We'll take that to "The Nth Degree."
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COOPER: A little fact about those models you just saw, that's actually how they walk in real life. You should actually see them take out the garbage, it's quite amusing.
Sadly, for the models, Fashion Week is just about over, but before it ends, "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy's" Carson Kressley gives us behind the scenes look -- that's right, Bernice (ph), I said saucy, saucy behind the scenes look. Here's CNN's Alina Cho.
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CARSON KRESSLEY, QUEER EYE FOR THE STRAIGHT GUY: Come on out, gorgeous.
ALINA CHO, CNN CORRESPONDENT (on camera): Thank you very much.
KRESSLEY: Fashion Week, here we come. CHO: That's right.
(voice-over): A day at the fashion shows with Carson Kressley...
KRESSLEY: It's a secret entrance.
CHO: ... is a bit like being a rock star. There's the paparazzi, the back stage access, and the hobnobbing with the designers. We had more fun talking about the food the models never eat.
KRESSLEY: This is from 2001. Fall 2001 Fashion Week.
CHO: And what you never see on the runway.
KRESSLEY: Been there, worn that. Actually, I did, I did wear this.
CHO (voice-over): You have not.
KRESSLEY: This is look #22.
CHO (on camera): Soon, we were looking for our seats.
KRESSLEY: I might be under "Paris Hilton." I'm not sure.
CHO: What do you think?
KRESSLEY: I like that. I like it.
CHO (voice-over): That is, until the lights dimmed.
KRESSLEY: Alina, no, get off me! Get your tongue out of my ear! Stop it!
CHO: Onto the next show, and Carson's critique of this elaborate coat.
KRESSLEY: There are those earrings I've been looking for.
CHO: Close to showtime, we move to our seats.
KRESSLEY: Thank you so much.
CHO: This time, it was less about the collection and more about the models.
(on camera): How long do you think it takes to learn how to walk like that?
KRESSLEY: It takes about three years or 10 margaritas.
CHO (voice-over): Kidding aside, Carson likes the clothes.
KRESSLEY: That's beautiful.
CHO: And we both liked the music. Later, after we got to know each other a bit better...
KRESSLEY: Will you go to Fashion Week with me?
CHO (on camera): Yes, I will.
(voice-over): We bonded.
KRESSLEY: Wonder Twin powers activate, in the form of outstanding CNN newspiece.
CHO: How about Carson's assessment of a certain CNN anchor?
KRESSLEY: Anderson. He's got fashion in his genes.
CHO: One guy Carson says he doesn't need to help.
Alina Cho, CNN, New York.
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COOPER: Like I never heard that in high school.
And, of course, our own 360 crew, huge fashion buffs, they have been so inspired by Fashion Week, all day long they've been strutting their own stuff. Take a look.
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COOPER: They are going to regret they ever did that.
Let's find out what's coming up next on "PAULA ZAHN NOW" -- Paula.
PAULA ZAHN, HOST, "PAULA ZAHN NOW": They got that catwalk thing down. I'm impressed. Go crew. Thanks, Anderson.
We are talking about the raging battle to fire a controversial professor who blames U.S. policies for the 9/11 attacks. And tonight, I will be talking exclusively with one of the people who will decide his fate, one of the Colorado regents.
And the newest threat to our security: North Korea now admits it does have nuclear weapons. A closer look at the very strange and secretive world of its leader, Kim Jong-Il. There's some really weird stuff in this story, Anderson. People might be hearing it for the first time.
COOPER: Yeah, it's a fascinating place. All right, Paula. Thanks very much.
360 next, the turkey that played chicken. Don't even ask why it crossed the road. That's too old. We are going to tell you what happened to him when he did. We'll take that to "The Nth Degree."
(COMMERCIAL BREAK) COOPER: Time for a quick check of viewer mail for today. Adriana from San Diego writes: "Hey, Anderson, you said today on the show that you own your own -- well, you own one of your own rooster suits, why don't you wear it on the show sometimes?"
Adriana is referring to the gaggle of roosters, actually it was -- yeah, actually, a gaggle is geese. It would be a brood of roosters, I suppose, celebrating the Chinese new year. I did have one of these suits, but Lou Dobbs actually swiped it from me. That is him, third from the left if you look very closely.
Vanessa from Lexington, South Carolina writes: "Anderson, today is my 18th birthday, and I got up super early this morning due to school, so I was wondering if you would play the seamen ship commercial, it would make my day!"
Vanessa, we cannot resist an opportunity to show off our favorite Japanese commercial.
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COOPER: Happy birthday.
Send us your thoughts anytime. Go to cnn.com/360. Click on the "instant feedback" link. Send us an e-mail.
Tonight, taking a moment of silence to "The Nth Degree." It's over, we're sorry to say, the lure of the open road, the horizon always beckoning, adventure around every bend, the wind in his feathers. Yes, Jake, the car chasing wild turkey is dead.
We've only just learned that our old friend (UNINTELLIGIBLE), Iowa's terror of the tarmac, called Jake by some, Chuck by others, chased his last car on the last day of last month.
This, by the way, is not Jake. This is, shall we say, a disciple of Jake's, a Pennsylvania follower of the bird known as one of the greats.
They miss him already, they are on the stretch of road he ruled. Of course, they do.
This guy's all right. But, Jake, Jake was a feathered Fred Astaire of the freeway, a dancer on the edge of life and the road, a daring young bird with a white line fever.
He had all the moves -- the dash, the strut and trot, the weave and bob, the east-west quick change, the driver's side gobble. But his luck finally ran out. You cannot live the way Jake did, without freedom in your breast and your wattle all aquiver, without expecting one day to pay a price.
That's right. I said wattle aquiver.
We don't know about the proverbial chicken, but we do know why he crossed the road. Because that's where the cars were. And man, he did love those cars. So long, Jake. We'll think of you when we're forced to downshift, slam on the brakes, and swerve.
That's it for 360 tonight. Thanks very much for watching. I'm Anderson Cooper. Coming up next, "PAULA ZAHN NOW" -- Paula.
ZAHN: And I don't remember, Anderson, if you'll remember what Ginger Rogers once said about having to dance with someone like Jake? I have to do the same thing he does, but in high heels and backwards.
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ZAHN: Thanks so much.
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ANDERSON COOPER, HOST: Good evening from New York. I'm Anderson Cooper.
Wedding bells for Prince Charles. His long-time mistress says, I will.
360 starts now.
COOPER: Prince Charles and Camilla Parker Bowles announce they'll marry. The date is set. But is this a royal insult to the late Princess Diana?
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It confirms everything that Princess Diana always said, that this was always going to happen.
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COOPER: Tonight, we take you behind the headlines. Who is the real Camilla? And was she responsible for the breakup of Charles and Diana?
Her parents call it a miracle. Twenty years after being hit by a drunk driver, a silent woman finally speaks.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sara's (ph) back. And that's the best gift in the world.
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COOPER: A 14-year-old girl falls down a 40-foot cliff. Rescuers rush to save her life. Tonight, we take you to the cliff's edge for a remarkable rescue, caught on tape.
Our special series, Family Secrets. Tonight, a husband's secret life, how he overcame his addiction to porn.
And we take you behind the scenes of New York's Fashion Week, the supermodels, the clothes, up close and personal with Carson Kressley.
ANNOUNCER: Live from the CNN Broadcast Center in New York, this is ANDERSON COOPER 360. COOPER: And good evening again.
We begin tonight with news of a royal wedding. Some 24 years ago, the world watched what the media called a fairytale wedding, Prince Charles and Princess Diana, a lavish church wedding beamed around the world from St. Paul's Cathedral in London.
We know now, of course, that when the cameras turned off, the crowds departed, life for the royal couple was anything but a fairytale. There was tragedy, of course, but before that, there was betrayal, Prince Charles's affair with another woman.
Today, that woman, Camilla Parker Bowles, and Prince Charles announced they will be married. And tonight, almost eight years after Diana's death and after many more years of speculation, the couple made their first public appearance together since the announcement.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How are you feeling, ma'am?
CAMILLA PARKER BOWLES: All right.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just all right?
PARKER BOWLES: I've just about, I'm just coming down to earth.
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COOPER: Well, the happy couple was applauded as they walked into a Windsor Castle reception tonight. Along with her hot pink gown, Parker Bowles was wearing an engagement ring. We're told it's a royal family heirloom, a platinum band with a square-cut central diamond and three diamond baguettes, whatever those are, on each side. We're not sure how many carats. We're imagining quite a lot.
CNN's Fionnuala Sweeney begins our coverage of this latest twist in a longstanding royal romance.
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FIONNUALA SWEENEY, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Prince Charles, reacting to well-wishers shortly after the announcement that he and his longtime lover, Camilla Parker Bowles, are to marry, a statement from Charles' office and residence, Clarence House, putting an official seal on a romance spanning four decades.
The couple, seen here in a photograph released to accompany the announcement, will marry in April at Windsor Castle outside London in a largely private civil ceremony and not a Church of England service.
The British monarch is supreme governor of the Anglican Church, and a religious ceremony for Charles and Camilla, as divorcees, would have been impossible.
However, the wedding will be blessed afterward by the archbishop of Canterbury, the culmination of months of diplomatic maneuvering between church leaders, Buckingham Palace, and Downing Street.
TONY BLAIR, BRITISH PRIME MINISTER: I'm delighted for the Prince of Wales and Camilla Parker Bowles. It's very happy news. And when the cabinet heard it this morning, they sent congratulations and good wishes on behalf of the whole government. We all wish them every happiness for their future together.
SWEENEY: However, Parker Bowles will not become queen should Charles assume the throne. She will be known as the Duchess of Cornwall and ultimately the Princess Consort, an acknowledgment, perhaps, that the impending marriage is a sensitive one for the church, the monarchy, and the British public, which held Charles's first wife, Diana, Princess of Wales, in huge public affection, a (UNINTELLIGIBLE) not lost on the couple.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Perhaps the biggest fear that they have the lack of popularity of Mrs. Parker Bowles. But this is a couple that are very much in love. They've shown -- have a committed and loving relationship for many years.
SWEENEY (on camera): A relationship which began 35 years ago will be formalized at a civil ceremony April. But doubtless the ghost of Diana will hover in the background, evoking memories of another wedding and prompting debate about which is the real fairytale.
Fionnuala Sweeney, CNN, Buckingham Palace.
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COOPER: Well, we now know, of course, that even as she walked down the aisle that day in 1981, Diana was miserable. She already suspected the marriage would be tainted by her husband's relationship with Camilla Parker Bowles.
Many years later, on tapes recorded by her biographer, Diana said this about her wedding day, and I quote, "I was very calm, very deathly calm. I felt as though I was a lamb going to the slaughter. As I walked up the aisle I was looking for her. I spotted Camilla." At another point, Diana referred to Camilla Parker Bowles as a Rottweiler who had wrecked her marriage.
So who is this woman, Camilla Parker Bowles?
CNN's Becky Anderson takes us behind the headlines.
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BECKY ANDERSON, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): They're the couple that practically define the phrase star-crossed. The upcoming marriage of Prince Charles and Camilla Parker Bowles has been 35 years in the making.
The Prince of Wales and the soon-to-be Duchess of Cornwall first met at a polo match in 1970. He was off to join the Royal Navy. And, three years later, Camilla married cavalry officer Andrew Parker Bowles. The woman Princess Diana once referred to as "the Rottweiler" certainly had the right pedigree, born in London, educated at the elite Queensgate School and finishing schools in Switzerland and in France. Apparently, the pair didn't let her marriage stand in the way of their friendship. Rumors abound that Camilla helped Charles choose a suitable wife, and that the prince proposed to Diana in Camilla's vegetable garden.
But Charles and Diana's fairytale wedding soon turned into a royal nightmare. And, as the war of the Windsors played out in the press, Camilla become a public pariah. Diana blamed her for ruining her marriage.
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DIANA, PRINCESS OF WALES: Well, there were three of us in this marriage, so it was a bit crowded.
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ANDERSON: And interfering in her life.
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DIANA: Our honeymoon, we have our white-tie dinner for President Sadat, cufflinks arrive on his wrists, two C's entwined, like the Chanel C.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, right.
DIANA: Got it in one. Knew exactly. So I said, "Camilla gave you those, didn't she?" He said, "Yes."
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ANDERSON: And finally, Charles chose a television interview to confess his infidelity.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you try to be faithful and honorable to your wife when you took on the vow of marriage?
PRINCE CHARLES: Yes. Absolutely.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And you were?
PRINCE CHARLES: Yes. Until it become irretrievably broken down.
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ANDERSON: The couple divorced in 1996. And when Diana died in a Paris tunnel in 1997, Camilla crept from the spotlight. Until 1999, that is, when she and Charles were photographed together for the first time. This is truly a case of romantic history repeating. Camilla's great-grandmother, Alice Keppel, was the mistress of Charles's great- great grandfather, King Edward VII.
Still, the public's devotion to Diana will deny Camilla the use of the title Princess of Wales and will keep her from becoming queen should Charles ascend to the throne. Alas, Camilla will only be called her royal highness, the Princess Consort.
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ANDERSON: Anderson, this must be the longest courtship in modern history, just shy of some 40 years. And I'm not sure many women would hang around for 40 years, even if they did think they were going to be queen. As I've just suggested, though, Camilla won't be queen, she will be Princess Consort if indeed Prince Charles does become king, (UNINTELLIGIBLE) she'll be known as her royal highness, the Duchess of Cornwall.
And as I suggested in that report, families do have a history. Famously, at a London nightclub in 1972, Camilla was dancing with Charles. And he said, and I quote, "My grand-grandmother was your great-grandfather's mistress. So how about it?" That is one of the famous quotes that's doing the rounds today in the U.K.
The timing of this announcement is being what many people in the U.K. have been quite surprised about today, not the fact that it is going to happen, but the actual timing of this announcement. And some skepticism as to whether this is just for a feel-good factor ahead of the probable May 5 elections for the Labour Party here in the U.K. Who knows, Anderson?
COOPER: It has certainly been a long time coming. Becky Anderson, thanks very much for that from London tonight.
For more now on the reaction to this latest development in royal romance, I'm joined from Los Angeles by one of the leading royal watchers, Richard Mineards, a correspondent for the "London Daily Express."
Richard, good to see you.
RICHARD MINEARDS, "LONDON DAILY EXPRESS": Yes, (UNINTELLIGIBLE)...
COOPER: The British, the British public never really been infatuated with Camilla Parker Bowles, to say the least. I, there's a profile of her in today's "London Times." I think it started off by saying, "Camilla will never be queen or England nor England's queen of hearts." Where is British public opinion on this announcement today?
MINEARDS: Well, I, in recent opinion polls, the British have said, 60 percent of them, that they would approve of Charles marrying Camilla. I think there's a lot to do with the semantics here. The title, Duchess of Cornwall, as opposed to Princess of Wales. And the fact that when she -- Charles becomes king, which he undoubtedly will, that she will not be queen, but princess consort.
And I think this is obviously avoiding criticism and controversy later on in his reign. Obviously people still high, hold Diana in high regard. She was quite an icon. But I think eight years have now elapsed. Time is a great healer. And Charles would not have gone through with this if he thought the British public was against it.
And the opinion polls of late show they're very much for it. And not only that, but his mother approves. And more importantly, the two boys, Harry and William, approve, because they want their father to be happy and they know he's only happy with Camilla by his side.
COOPER: Well, I was going to say, I mean, had they, I mean, do they hang out together? Do the children and she, I mean, do they do family events together?
MINEARDS: Yes, they do get together. But you've got to remember, of course, that Prince William is a student at St. Andrews University. And during his gap year after leaving Eaton, Prince Harry has been going around the world doing charitable work, and in May, goes to the Royal Military Academy at Sandhurst.
So they're not very much together as the family, even with their dad. But when they do get together, they do have tea with Camilla. I think they understand her now. It's been a healing process. But we're now eight years on. Charles and Camilla are in their mid-50s. And people want to see them happy.
But I think very much that with this decision comes the official status that goes with it, because a couple of months back, Charles withdrew from the wedding of the Duke of Westminster's daughter when he found out that Camilla was not to be allowed to sit with him, that he would be sitting with his mother, as befits his status, and Camilla was to be shoved to the back of the cathedral during the ceremony.
And later this year, they're coming to America. So I think he wants to put this on an official footing so that they're very much on par with each other, and she will not suffer the ignominy of being shoved to the back of whatever it is.
COOPER: But it's going to be a private wedding, a private affair, it's not going to be like we saw with Princess Diana.
MINEARDS: Very much small scale. I mean, in 1981, they had 3,000 guests. The ceremony was watched by 3 billion people. But this time, of course, it will not seen by the public. It will be a small family occasion in the confines of Windsor Castle, with a blessing by the Archbishop of Canterbury, who's the head of the Anglican Church in Britain. And that will be it.
I mean, he wants to keep this very small scale. But he does want to marry Camilla. And I think he's only done this because he feels that public opinion is with him, because it is the British public, of course, that keeps the royal family going.
COOPER: It certainly is. Richard Mineards, appreciate you joining us. Thanks.
MINEARDS: My pleasure.
COOPER: Here in the U.S., a prominent civil rights lawyer is convicted of helping a terrorist. That tops our look at news cross- country right now.
In New York, a jury found this woman, Lynne Stewart, guilty of conspiring with terrorists. Prosecutors said Stewart transmitted messages of hate from a jailed radical sheik to his fanatic supporters in Egypt. Stewart says she was only zealously advocating for her client. She could face 20 years in prison.
In Los Angeles now, no love for Courtney. The troubled singer pleaded no contest today to an assault charge stemming from an incident at her ex-boyfriend's house last year. Under a plea deal, Love agreed to anger management counseling and random drug testing. She was also placed on three years' probation.
We take you to Richmond, Virginia, now. Riding low in the saddle will not cost you 50 bucks after all. Today, state lawmakers dropped their droopy-pants bill, saying all the publicity became embarrassing. We can understand why. The proposed law would fine anyone caught wearing jeans so low that underwear is visible in a lewd or indecent manner. So it goes.
That's a quick look at stories right now cross-country.
360 next, a woman suddenly speaks again 20 years after a drunk (UNINTELLIGIBLE) driver put her in the hospital and silenced her. We have the details of her amazing awakening.
Plus, the Zoloft defense. Did a drug-induced mania drive a teenager to kill his grandparents? Or is he a killer without the drugs? We go live to the courthouse for the latest.
Also tonight, a dramatic cliff rescue. A 14-year-old plucked from the edge of a cliff.
All that ahead. First, your picks, the most popular stories right now on CNN.com.
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COOPER: Well, some would say that Jim and Betty Scantlon (ph) just experienced a miracle. That's what they say, at least. Twenty years ago, their 18-year-old daughter Sara was run down by a drunk driver. She was left unable to speak. In all the time since, Sara never uttered a word, and the Scantlons thought they would never hear from her again.
That is, until they got a phone call Friday night.
CNN's David Mattingly takes up their story.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) DAVID MATTINGLY, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The last time Sara Scantlon was able to speak, it was more than 20 years ago, the moment she walked into the glaring lights of a drunk driver. The hit- and-run left her battered, broken, and unable to speak.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She knows who we are, and she can't communicate with us.
MATTINGLY: John Moore (ph), now a police detective, was a witness to Sara's hit-and-run.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We saw her fly through the air probably at least 20 feet into the air, and landed on her head.
MATTINGLY: It happened here, on a dark, two-lane road outside their hometown at Hutchinson (ph), Kansas, as they left a party.
(on camera): When you saw that accident, did you think that there was any way she could survive?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, I thought she was probably -- if she wasn't dead, she was going to probably die.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The phone rings about midnight. My wife answers it, pulls my big toe and says, We've got to get to the hospital. Something bad's happened to Sara.
MATTINGLY: But now, more than 20 years later, and 38 years old, her family calls her a medical miracle, as she suddenly regained the ability to talk.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She got on the phone and she said, Hi, Dad. And she's, again, 100 percent Sara. She's using of all her capacity to the maximum. And that's a real inspiration. Sara's back. And that's the best gift in the world.
MATTINGLY: David Mattingly, CNN, Hutchinson, Kansas.
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COOPER: "Sara's back," the words of a father who never thought he'd be able to say that.
CNN senior medical correspondent, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, joins us to talk about this.
Sanjay, how common is this?
SANJAY GUPTA, CNN SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, it's very uncommon, Anderson. Sounded like she had a condition that in neurosurgery we call aphasia. She just wasn't able to speak. Sounds like she was able to understand speech, but not able to speak at all, really, for 20 years. Most neurosurgeons, most people who study this, be very surprised that she would get that back. So very uncommon.
COOPER: It's the kind of story, though, you know, gives hope to every family who has a loved one in a coma or in a vegetative state, or in any kind of condition like this. I mean, should it give hope to people?
GUPTA: Yes, you know, I think what it really says more than anything else is, there's a lot of things about the brain that we just still don't know. We are learning every day new things about the brain.
Typically, what most doctors, neurosurgeons, would tell somebody is that about after 18 months to two years or so, it's unlikely that someone is going to make significant gains with regards to things like this. So certainly 20 years later, this is something that is quite remarkable, something that certainly people will write up in the medical journals for sure.
It's hard to say about the hope, though, because you don't want to give false hope either, Anderson.
COOPER: Yes, (UNINTELLIGIBLE), the father says, you know, Sara was back when he heard her on the phone. She was sort of back to her old self. I mean, is she going to get back to her old self? Obviously she's, you know, she's, as you can see her, you know, in a tough condition, and has been for 20 years.
GUPTA: Yes, I mean, you know, the way that I would classify someone with Sara, someone who has a significant head injury, who had a significant aphasia as well, meaning, again, the inability to speak, who is still recovering even 20 years later. You know, again, based on what we typically classify these things, I wouldn't say that she's going to get back to normal. I just couldn't say that in good confidence, although, again, she's broken some rules here. So who's to say what she's going to look like a year or two years from now, Anderson?
COOPER: She's obviously got a lot of spirit. Amazing story.
Thanks very much, Sanjay, appreciate it.
GUPTA: Thank you.
COOPER: Coming up next on 360, an alleged Valentine's Day suicide pact. Police arrest a man suspected of organizing people around the United States to try to take their own lives. We're going to speak to the sheriff who cracked the case.
Also tonight, the Zoloft defense. Can antidepressants be blamed for murder? We'll get the latest in the case of a teenager who killed his grandparents. He was only 12 when he did it. Find out what a former FDA psychiatrist said today on the stand.
Also ahead, pulled from the edge. Dramatic rescue of a girl who fell 40 feet down a cliff. She was hanging there. All of it was caught on tape. We'll bring you that. Covering all the angles.
Be right back.
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COOPER: A truly bizarre story out of Oregon now about the arrest of a man by the name of Gerald Krien. That's him there. He's 26, of Klamath Falls, who allegedly used a Web site to coordinate a Valentine's Day mass suicide. Thirty-two people evidently agreed to take part. Police are now searching for them. This is happening as we speak.
Klamath County Sheriff Timothy Evinger joins us now with the latest.
Sheriff, how did police find out about this alleged suicide pact?
SHERIFF TIMOTHY EVINGER, KLAMATH COUNTY, WASHINGTON: Well, my investigators were acting on a tip, which was based out of Canada, of an individual who was going to take part in this and got basically cold feet.
COOPER: And that individual, that (UNINTELLIGIBLE), you're not talking about Krien here.
EVINGER: No, no. There was a person who had participated in a chat room that Mr. Krien had set up, and this individual had participated in that chat room along with what we believe to be at least 32 other people. There could be more. And we're very interested in finding those other people who may have made this pact with Mr. Krien.
COOPER: And do you know, I mean, how they were planning on carrying this out, what the details of it are?
EVINGER: We have some sketchy details at this point about how they were going to carry it out. Obviously we're still amidst the investigation here, and really would like to get a little bit further along before we release that information.
COOPER: Is there a stuff you can say about this guy Gerald Krien? I understand he harass no criminal background. What else do you know about him?
EVINGER: Yes, we believe he moved to our area out of northern California about a year ago, and that he had -- we believe that he may have set up a chat room previously. This is not his first attempt. But I think this might be the first time that he had some takers. And one really got scared and contacted us.
COOPER: Do you know, I mean, are there religious undertones, cult undertones to this?
EVINGER: We're not seeing any religious undertones or cult, if you will, undertones at this time. Basically, this individual was, I think, looking for some people with some similar ideology of committing suicide and doing it together via the Internet.
COOPER: And are you sure, I mean, this isn't some hoax, some Internet hoax? EVINGER: Well, we're certainly taking it seriously. There was some mention by one of the participants that she was going to kill her two children before she took her own life. And we're desperately searching,, trying to locate that individual. And based on the fact that we believe the tip that we got was credible, from an individual who was going to partake in this suicide, that we believe it to be true. And we're not going to take any chances.
COOPER: I understand also you've subpoenaed some Internet providers. Where, or can you say where the investigation's gone for here?
EVINGER: I believe it's going to be multifaceted, that it'll be more than one step here. We've got the subpoenas out to the Internet providers. Obviously we're trying to capture information, e-mails, maybe some chat information, and then we'll be issuing some further subpoenas, I'm certain, through the district attorney's office, to ascertain who the other individuals were, where they are, and try to deem them safe in the communities wherever they are, probably somewhere in North America.
COOPER: The investigation's ongoing. Sheriff Evinger, I appreciate you joining us. Thanks very much.
EVINGER: Thank you.
COOPER: Believe it or not, suicide pacts such as the one we've been talking about have been recent problem in Japan. Earlier this month, nine people were found dead in two cars outside Tokyo in what were believed to be the latest in a series of group suicides among people who were strangers to one another but had made their arrangements on the Internet. As it is, Japan has the highest suicide rate in the industrialized world, with 24.1 suicides per 100,000 people each year, according to the U.N.'s World Health Organization.
In justice served tonight, tomorrow morning a jury in Charleston, South Carolina, could actually get the case of Chris Pittman, the 15- year-old charged with shooting his grandparents to death when he was 12. The defense blames the murder on the antidepressant drug Zoloft. Today, it called its final witness.
Here's CNN's Elizabeth Cohen.
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JUDGE DANIEL PEEPER, CHARLESTON COUNTY, SOUTH CAROLINA: (UNINTELLIGIBLE) tell me the facts in People versus Conley (ph), Illinois case.
ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): In the law school case Judge Daniel Peeper teaches, on this day, the subject is state of mind.
PEEPER: An act does not make one guilty unless the mind is guilty, that is, unless the intent is criminal. COHEN: And in his court, on the very same day, that's the issue at hand in the trial of Chris Pittman, who was 12 years old when he shot and killed his grandparents while taking the antidepressant Zoloft. The case has become a battle of psychiatrists.
The final defense witness, a retired FDA psychiatrist.
DR. RICHARD KAPIT, DEFENSE PSYCHIATRIST: I believe he did not have the ability to form criminal intent on that date due to the intoxication with Zoloft.
COHEN: Dr. Richard Kapit was involved in the FDA's approval process for this class of drugs. Now, he says, the murders bore the signs of a mind out of control.
KAPIT: I think it's clear, if you read the description of what happened, that this was done all in a rapid, frantic, highly excited state of mind. All of those things are characteristic of mania.
COHEN: The prosecution psychiatrist told a completely different story. Dr. Pamela Crawford said the boy told her he waited until his grandparents went to sleep before entering their bedroom with a shotgun.
DR. PAMELA CRAWFORD, PROSECUTOR PSYCHIATRIST: That's significant. He -- it shows planning. It shows some, at least, some clear thought.
COHEN: She met with Chris just two weeks after the killings. She says he told her he burned down the house to have time to get away.
CRAWFORD: It shows not only that he knew it was wrong, that he knew that it was legally wrong to do this, that he knew there would be some consequence.
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COHEN: We've just learned that more witnesses are expected to testify tomorrow, and that closing arguments are expected Monday, Anderson.
COOPER: Is there any sense of, I mean, where the jury is headed on this thing (UNINTELLIGIBLE), how attentively they've been watching this trial?
COHEN: There is really no way to read the minds of those jurors. But it is interesting -- it will be interesting to see if they could follow all this testimony. There have been thoughts about serotonin and transmitters, and myelin sheaths and lots of talks about how the brain operates. And it will be interesting to hear later from these jurors if they were able to follow all of that.
COOPER: All right. Elizabeth Cohen covering the trial. Thanks very much, Elizabeth.
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COOPER (voice-over): A 14-year-old girl falls down a 40-foot cliff. Rescuers rush to save her life. Tonight, we take you to the cliff's edge for a remarkable rescue caught on tape.
Our special series "Family Secrets." Tonight, a husband's secret life. How he overcame his addiction to porn.
And we take you behind the scenes of New York's Fashion Week. The super models, the clothes, up close and personal with Carson Cresley.
360 continues.
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COOPER: A tense scene there as a 14-year-old girl, frozen with fear was clinging for dear life to the sheer face of a cliff. As you can see rescuers inching closer toward her. It all started on an ordinary afternoon. It went very bad, very quickly.
She was reading near the back yard of her cliffside home when she started to slide down. CNN's Miguel Marquez picks up the story.
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MIGUEL MARQUEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): 14-year-old Justine Rodriguez clings to a washed out hillside behind her home. Everytime she moves the dried mud below her gives way. She's already slid at least 100 feet. A few feet more will take her over an edge that could mean her death. Her mother Jessica Rodriguez can't even bring herself to say what could have happened.
JESSICA RODRIGUEZ, MOTHER: I thought I was going to see her slide off and -- you know, I mean, yes.
MARQUEZ: Rodriguez was in the shower as her daughter called out for help. Justin Siler, a family friend, just happened to be in the right place at the right time.
JUSTIN SILER, FAMILY FRIEND: I heard her say help me, help me. And I just took off running down the hill.
MARQUEZ: Siler was able to get a garden hose to Rodriguez, but it was her that kept him calm.
SILER: She told me not to cry. I started to cry. And she said, don't cry, Justin, don't cry. She was just clinging to it.
MARQUEZ: Wait, she was telling you down there.
SILER: Yes. I love her to death. She's a good kid. I was scared. I didn't want anything to happen to her.
MARQUEZ: As the seconds ticked away, the wait for rescue seemed forever. In reality it's just a few minutes.
RODRIGUEZ: She said, what's taking them so long. She could feel the dirt shifting underneath her.
MARQUEZ (on camera): I want to give you an idea how this played out. Justine's house is right over here. She was sitting just a few feet away from where I'm standing right now. She slipped down this hill, about 150 feel, to where you see that black hose. Below that, about is 100 feet of sheer cliff to the bottom.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, she -- actually, you should see her shoes. She had worn through parts of her leather shoes trying to stop.
MARQUEZ: L.A. County Sheriff's Deputies were first on the scene. One deputy, lying on his belly, climbs out as close as he can and talks to the 14-year-old.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Her fingertips were bloody from stopping herself from falling.
MARQUEZ: Finally, an L.A. County fire rescuer inches his way to Justine who by this time is so scared she can't even grab the garden house. The cliff gives way in little bits, every step, just a few feet from the edge.
RODRIGUEZ: I don't know what it was. I really honestly don't know what it was that saved her, that stopped her from falling, because, she wasn't hanging on to anything.
MARQUEZ: Justine, he legs now asleep, held on long enough for the rescuer to get a harness around her.
Now the hard part, another L.A. County fire rescuer dangles from a rope the rotor wash from the chopper overhead blows tumbleweeds, debris and dust over the 2 clinging to the cliff. They manage to hold on as the rescuer, using hand signals, communicates with the chopper pilot.
SCOTT REIFF, KABC CHOPPER PILOT: It can be extremely difficult to get them exactly right on the hillside, not slam them into it.
MARQUEZ: Finally, the rescuer gets to Justine, clips to the harness that's already been placed around her and she's carried into a neighbor's yard. Other than bloody fingers and a few scrapes, she's fine. Already back home. But no longer venturing into the backyard, at least for now.
Miguel Marquez, CNN, Hacienda Heights, California.
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COOPER: Off to Glouster, Massachusetts, an update on another daring rescue. Here's a quick news note, as we told you yesterday, a Coast Guard helicopter, we showed you this video, had plucked 3 men, one by one, from 39 degree ocean water after their fishing boat sank. It turns out one of the survivors is familiar with tragedy at sea. His brother was one of the fishermen that died on the Andrea Gail when it sank back in 1991. Of course the story was portrayed in the book and later the film, "The Perfect Storm."
North Korea threatens to bolster its nuclear arsenal. That tops our look at global stories right now in the "Uplink." In Pyongyang, North Korea their official news agency says the country quote, "manufactured nukes for self-defense." It is the first time North Korea has publicly said they have nuclear arms. The Communist nation says its also pulling out of six-party nuclear talks, because of what it calls U.S. threats to topple its political system. The U.S. and other countries have condemned the announcement.
The Vatican now. Pope John Paul II rides his pope mobile home from the hospital. A papal spokesman says the 84-year-old pontiff has recovered from his respiratory problems, and that his general health continues to improve. The pope normally takes a break from public activities during lent so he'll have a chance to regain his strength before Easter celebrations next month.
London, England now. A nude Kate Moss generating big bucks. It's a painting of the super model made by Lucien Freud, during her pregnancy. It was sold at auction for the equivalent of $6.5 million. She's obviously a very well-known artist. The winning bid was made by an anonymous telephone caller.
That's a quick look at stories in the "Uplink."
360 next, a Sunday schoolteacher who was addicted to porn, and, it almost cost him everything. We're going to hear how he battled back, part of our special series, "Family Secrets."
Plus, Carson Cresley. He's saucey. He takes a look at the New York's Fashion Week, behind the scenes with Mr. Cresley.
And, a little later, life in the fast lane ends for a wild turkey. That's right. We're going to take that to the "Nth Degree." Gobble, gobble.
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COOPER: Coming up, a man who is hooked on porn. Find out how he overcame his addiction. 360 next.
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COOPER: All this week, we've been taking a look at family secrets. All families have them, but often don't address them until it is too late. This man you're about to meet, seemed to have it all. Success, a loving wife, two kids. But, what people closest to him did not know, what his own family didn't know for awhile, that he was hooked on pornography. And getting his fix nearly cost him everything. CNN's Gary Tuchman has his story.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) GARY TUCHMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Playing cards on the computer a computer without Internet access. Banished from this house because of a husband who was addicted to pornography.
KEN, FORMER PORN ADDICT: To tell you, the grip it had on me, I can't put into words -- The power it has over you.
COLLEEN, WIFE: I would have divorced him, but I had two children to think of. And I would have been gone.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Don't be mean to that cat.
KEN: He's a good boy.
TUCHMAN: Ken, who doesn't want his family's last name used, because of the stigma, realizes he almost lost his family. He is one of hundreds of thousands of Americans, mostly men, but some women, who find their lives controlled by what Webster's Dictionaries call writings and pictures intended primarily to arose sexual desire.
KEN: Sometimes, I pray to God, help me to not do this. And 15 minutes later I was up to neck in it.
TUCHMAN: For Ken, a former Sunday school teacher, was often seven days a week of porn, as long as he could do it secretly. From the Internet, to adult magazines, to movies, to 25 cent peep shows.
KEN: And it's sad. It sounds hypocritical, but, while I was typing my Sunday school messages, to take a break, I would surf on pornography.
TUCHMAN: Ken couldn't stop. Keeping up a pace for the first 14 years of his marriage that left him despondent.
DOROTHY HAYDEN, PSYCHOTHERAPIST: It's been documented that the brain lets off certain chemicals, serotonin-dopamine that actually puts people into this very erotic haze. Or into the euphoric trance of the alcoholic or the drug addict.
TUCHMAN: Ken did everything he could to cover his tracks.
(on camera): Now, right over there is a topless club in your town. Did you ever feel the temptation to go there?
KEN: Well, believe it or not, the girl that cut my hair also worked there. So, I was afraid to go in there, because she would have seen me. And she also cut my wife's hair.
TUCHMAN (voice-over): Just like alcohol or drug addiction, denial is a major part of this type of addiction. Experts say, most people don't admit they're addicted until it's almost too late, or until it is too late. Ken's wife, Colleen, first got an inkling about what was going on, after seeing a pop up add on the computer.
COLLEEN: I want to click it off, and this thing said, can't download naked cheerleaders. And I went, oh my gosh. TUCHMAN: But, she didn't learn how it had taken over her husband's life until they both went into counseling.
COLLEEN: I was devastated. It really knocked me right out of my world.
TUCHMAN: Counseling helped Ken and Colleen. Group counseling comes highly recommended for porn and sex addicts.
HAYDEN: Go to a meeting and you don't have to talk. You just sit back and listen to other people share about their experience, so you get the feeling that you're not alone.
TUCHMAN: Ken says, he won't even look at a Victoria's Secret fashion show or catalog.
(on camera): Are you concerned that if you did watch an X-rated movie with somebodies or looked through an adult magazine, that you could became a porn addicted again?
KEN: Absolutely. Yes.
TUCHMAN: No doubt in your mind?
KEN: No doubt in my mind. No doubt in my mind.
TUCHMAN: Gary Tuchman, CNN, Rock Hill, South Carolina.
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Well, coming up next on 360, super models strutting the runway, and Carson Kressley strutting his own stuff. He takes us behind the scenes, behind the glamour of high fashion. What's that, anyway?
A little later, turkey trouble, small town morning the bird that will gobble gobble no more. We'll take that to "The Nth Degree."
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COOPER: A little fact about those models you just saw, that's actually how they walk in real life. You should actually see them take out the garbage, it's quite amusing.
Sadly, for the models, Fashion Week is just about over, but before it ends, "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy's" Carson Kressley gives us behind the scenes look -- that's right, Bernice (ph), I said saucy, saucy behind the scenes look. Here's CNN's Alina Cho.
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CARSON KRESSLEY, QUEER EYE FOR THE STRAIGHT GUY: Come on out, gorgeous.
ALINA CHO, CNN CORRESPONDENT (on camera): Thank you very much.
KRESSLEY: Fashion Week, here we come. CHO: That's right.
(voice-over): A day at the fashion shows with Carson Kressley...
KRESSLEY: It's a secret entrance.
CHO: ... is a bit like being a rock star. There's the paparazzi, the back stage access, and the hobnobbing with the designers. We had more fun talking about the food the models never eat.
KRESSLEY: This is from 2001. Fall 2001 Fashion Week.
CHO: And what you never see on the runway.
KRESSLEY: Been there, worn that. Actually, I did, I did wear this.
CHO (voice-over): You have not.
KRESSLEY: This is look #22.
CHO (on camera): Soon, we were looking for our seats.
KRESSLEY: I might be under "Paris Hilton." I'm not sure.
CHO: What do you think?
KRESSLEY: I like that. I like it.
CHO (voice-over): That is, until the lights dimmed.
KRESSLEY: Alina, no, get off me! Get your tongue out of my ear! Stop it!
CHO: Onto the next show, and Carson's critique of this elaborate coat.
KRESSLEY: There are those earrings I've been looking for.
CHO: Close to showtime, we move to our seats.
KRESSLEY: Thank you so much.
CHO: This time, it was less about the collection and more about the models.
(on camera): How long do you think it takes to learn how to walk like that?
KRESSLEY: It takes about three years or 10 margaritas.
CHO (voice-over): Kidding aside, Carson likes the clothes.
KRESSLEY: That's beautiful.
CHO: And we both liked the music. Later, after we got to know each other a bit better...
KRESSLEY: Will you go to Fashion Week with me?
CHO (on camera): Yes, I will.
(voice-over): We bonded.
KRESSLEY: Wonder Twin powers activate, in the form of outstanding CNN newspiece.
CHO: How about Carson's assessment of a certain CNN anchor?
KRESSLEY: Anderson. He's got fashion in his genes.
CHO: One guy Carson says he doesn't need to help.
Alina Cho, CNN, New York.
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COOPER: Like I never heard that in high school.
And, of course, our own 360 crew, huge fashion buffs, they have been so inspired by Fashion Week, all day long they've been strutting their own stuff. Take a look.
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COOPER: They are going to regret they ever did that.
Let's find out what's coming up next on "PAULA ZAHN NOW" -- Paula.
PAULA ZAHN, HOST, "PAULA ZAHN NOW": They got that catwalk thing down. I'm impressed. Go crew. Thanks, Anderson.
We are talking about the raging battle to fire a controversial professor who blames U.S. policies for the 9/11 attacks. And tonight, I will be talking exclusively with one of the people who will decide his fate, one of the Colorado regents.
And the newest threat to our security: North Korea now admits it does have nuclear weapons. A closer look at the very strange and secretive world of its leader, Kim Jong-Il. There's some really weird stuff in this story, Anderson. People might be hearing it for the first time.
COOPER: Yeah, it's a fascinating place. All right, Paula. Thanks very much.
360 next, the turkey that played chicken. Don't even ask why it crossed the road. That's too old. We are going to tell you what happened to him when he did. We'll take that to "The Nth Degree."
(COMMERCIAL BREAK) COOPER: Time for a quick check of viewer mail for today. Adriana from San Diego writes: "Hey, Anderson, you said today on the show that you own your own -- well, you own one of your own rooster suits, why don't you wear it on the show sometimes?"
Adriana is referring to the gaggle of roosters, actually it was -- yeah, actually, a gaggle is geese. It would be a brood of roosters, I suppose, celebrating the Chinese new year. I did have one of these suits, but Lou Dobbs actually swiped it from me. That is him, third from the left if you look very closely.
Vanessa from Lexington, South Carolina writes: "Anderson, today is my 18th birthday, and I got up super early this morning due to school, so I was wondering if you would play the seamen ship commercial, it would make my day!"
Vanessa, we cannot resist an opportunity to show off our favorite Japanese commercial.
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COOPER: Happy birthday.
Send us your thoughts anytime. Go to cnn.com/360. Click on the "instant feedback" link. Send us an e-mail.
Tonight, taking a moment of silence to "The Nth Degree." It's over, we're sorry to say, the lure of the open road, the horizon always beckoning, adventure around every bend, the wind in his feathers. Yes, Jake, the car chasing wild turkey is dead.
We've only just learned that our old friend (UNINTELLIGIBLE), Iowa's terror of the tarmac, called Jake by some, Chuck by others, chased his last car on the last day of last month.
This, by the way, is not Jake. This is, shall we say, a disciple of Jake's, a Pennsylvania follower of the bird known as one of the greats.
They miss him already, they are on the stretch of road he ruled. Of course, they do.
This guy's all right. But, Jake, Jake was a feathered Fred Astaire of the freeway, a dancer on the edge of life and the road, a daring young bird with a white line fever.
He had all the moves -- the dash, the strut and trot, the weave and bob, the east-west quick change, the driver's side gobble. But his luck finally ran out. You cannot live the way Jake did, without freedom in your breast and your wattle all aquiver, without expecting one day to pay a price.
That's right. I said wattle aquiver.
We don't know about the proverbial chicken, but we do know why he crossed the road. Because that's where the cars were. And man, he did love those cars. So long, Jake. We'll think of you when we're forced to downshift, slam on the brakes, and swerve.
That's it for 360 tonight. Thanks very much for watching. I'm Anderson Cooper. Coming up next, "PAULA ZAHN NOW" -- Paula.
ZAHN: And I don't remember, Anderson, if you'll remember what Ginger Rogers once said about having to dance with someone like Jake? I have to do the same thing he does, but in high heels and backwards.
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ZAHN: Thanks so much.
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