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Millions Expected To Visit Vatican During Pope's Funeral; Prince Rainier Dies
Aired April 06, 2005 - 19:00 ET
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ANDERSON COOPER, HOST: Good evening from Vatican City. I'm Anderson Cooper.
President Bush arrives for the funeral of the pope, and an American legal icon is laid to rest.
360 starts now.
ANNOUNCER: Johnnie Cochran laid to rest, his past clients Michael Jackson and O.J. Simpson pay their respects.
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O.J. SIMPSON: Johnnie fought or his clients, not, no matter how popular or unpopular the cause was.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
ANNOUNCER: Surprising moments from the star-studded funeral.
A killer escapes from prison, taking the deputy warden's wife hostage.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I regret to say I was the hostage taker, and I, I'll probably live to regret it.
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ANNOUNCER: Now he's been arrested, and questions are being asked. Was she really held against her will?
Millions of Americans abuse alcohol. Relationships and lives are ruined. But now there's a new treatment.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: My urge to drink is completely gone.
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ANNOUNCER: Could this be a medical breakthrough?
And the death of a prince. Tonight, a look back at the legendary romance between Prince Rainier and Grace Kelly. Live from Vatican City, this is a special edition of ANDERSON COOPER 360.
COOPER: Good evening again from Vatican City.
The story here, for the fourth day, now continues to be one of waiting. Wherever you look, in whatever direction, near and far, there are troops of people, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, standing and waiting.
On the other hand, those who arrived aboard Air Force One today some hours ago didn't have to wait at all.
CNN senior White House correspondent John King is here to tell us all about it. Hey, John.
JOHN KING, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Hello to you.
President Bush, you're right, he did get to cut the line, if you will, tens of thousands waiting, President Bush and the five-member U.S. delegation, plus senior White House staffers, came in, a quick 30-minute drive from the airport, police escort, of course, and they went for a private viewing, the president and two former presidents, his father and Bill Clinton, as well as first lady Laura Bush, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. That is the official delegation.
They took some time, the White House says, to offer some personal reflections. They of course will be here with all the heads of state and other dignitaries from around the world Friday for the official funeral. The White House says the president as well as President Clinton and former President Bush wanted to have a moment of personal reflection. They certainly also had a moment, if you will, on the global stage that we are seeing unfold here.
But they will be part of the ceremonies. In the case of the current president and Bill Clinton, you have two leaders who have openly worn their religion, if you will, worn their faith in their politics. This president's father much more reserved in that way. But they said they wanted a private moment, a personal moment to pray and reflect. And they've all, of course, been on the receiving end of lectures from this pope. But that's a discussion we've had in past days that we will have again.
COOPER: Of course, every, for every private moment, it's also a very public moment and a political moment.
KING: It is. But never remember, this president was here during the campaign. And a great deal was made about that, because it was at a time many Catholic bishops back in the United States were saying, Make abortion the number one issue in the election. And many thought the president came here to reinforce that. John Kerry, of course, a Catholic.
Mr. Bush isn't running again. So there are some who will say maybe he's getting an extra moment in the spotlight, if you will. But he won't be on a ballot ever again. COOPER: And as we look at the pictures of them inside St. Peter's Basilica, I mean, it's an, (UNINTELLIGIBLE) extraordinary images, seeing them sitting there. We don't see Jimmy Carter. There's been a little bit of a sort of a dust-up about -- he's kind of a he said, they said.
KING: At a minimum, miscommunication. Certainly some friction between the staffs, President Carter saying tonight there is no dissension between he and the White House right now. But certainly his staff says that he did not get clear word from the White House that President Clinton and former president Bush were coming.
And (UNINTELLIGIBLE) by the time did, it was too late. The White House says as soon as they knew that President Clinton's doctors would say OK and that President Bush's father, president 41, as they call him at the White House, would come, they quickly called Jimmy Carter. So there certainly was a miscommunication. The staff seemed to be a little tense at each other, President Carter saying tonight, Let's just let this go.
COOPER: But they are staying for the funeral. The presidents, yes.
KING: The former presidents will be here through the funeral on Friday, and then back to the States.
COOPER: All right, John King, welcome to Rome.
KING: Thank you, Anderson.
COOPER: And Vatican City. Thanks, John.
We're doing our best to bring this extraordinary event into focus. We're also pretty certain that your television set isn't big enough. I don't care how big a screen you got, I don't care if it's a plasma TV. A movie screen would not do it justice either, however wide that movie screen is.
These are scenes of mass gathering that bewilder the eyes, even of those of us who can stand here and see them for ourselves. There are hundreds of thousands of people right now quietly waiting to say their farewells, hundreds of thousands of people, patient and undeterred.
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COOPER (voice-over): For the third day in a row, the faithful filed into St. Peter's Basilica to look, to pray, to bid farewell to Pope John Paul II. They swarmed the streets of Rome. More than 4 million have made their way into the Eternal City, according to the chief of police, snarling traffic, packing trains, stretching resources to their limits, lining up in the hot sun and the evening chill, surprising some with their patience.
CARDINAL FRANCIS GEORGE, ARCHBISHOP OF CHICAGO: This number of people, you'd expect all kinds of things. It's very orderly and yet very human. I mean, they're keeping order, but they're also respecting people, as he always did.
COOPER: But soon, this period of public grieving will end. Just hours ago, authorities stopped mourners from lining up to ensure that those who have waited so long will make their way inside the basilica before it closes and preparations for the pope's funeral begin.
Away from the growing crowds, the cardinals continued the business of the Vatican, announcing that the conclave will begin on April 18, and revealing one part of the pope's will, that despite hinting in 2003 he had appointed a cardinal in pectore, in his heart, there would in the end be no secret cardinal.
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COOPER: Well, we're going to come back to the story of what is happening right here in Vatican City throughout the program.
But we do have a number of other interesting stories making news today back at home.
While much is being made of the dignitaries showing up here, there was a funeral in Los Angeles where the list of the famous, well, it was pretty interesting in its own way. It was the funeral of famed attorney Johnnie Cochran, who died from a brain tumor last week.
Among those on hand, O.J. Simpson and Michael Jackson.
CNN's Ted Rowlands has more.
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TED ROWLANDS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): They came to say good-bye to Johnnie Cochran, among them, celebrity friends, celebrity lawyers, politicians, and celebrity clients, including Michael Jackson and O.J. Simpson.
O.J. SIMPSON: Johnnie fought for his clients, he never -- no matter how popular or unpopular the cause was or the verdict was, you know, Johnnie stayed sure. He didn't try to half-step when it was over, like some guys have done.
STEVIE WONDER: Johnnie, I'll never forget your laughter, I'll never forget your voice.
ROWLANDS: It wasn't just the rich and famous. There were also thousands of people from the Los Angeles community where Cochran lived. During the more than three-hour service, those who knew Cochran best took turns describing him as a tireless advocate for justice who touched thousands of lives.
GEROMINO PRATT, FORMER COCHRAN CLIENT: I salute Johnnie with all of the fervor, with all of the realness, of all of the brothers and sisters who are still in prison.
REV. AL SHARPTON: In all due respect to you, Brother Simpson, we didn't clap when the acquittal of Simpson came for O.J. We were clapping for Johnnie. We were clapping because for decades, our brothers, our cousins, our uncles had to stand in the well with no one to stand up for them. And finally a black man came and said, If it don't fit, you must acquit.
ROWLANDS: Johnnie Cochran died from a brain tumor at the age of 67.
JONATHAN COCHRAN, SON: Look at it now, it seems like he was taken too soon. But I think of it as, he's on a big case, and for whatever reason, God needed a lawyer in heaven and said, Call Johnnie Cochran.
TIFFANY COCHRAN EDWARDS, DAUGHTER: He was such a wonderful man. He was just wonderful. He meant everything to me. And Dad, I know that you are the best-dressed man in heaven.
ROWLANDS: Ted Rowlands, CNN, Los Angeles.
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COOPER: Well, coming up next on 360, taking a shot at alcoholism. How a monthly needle injection may help you stay sober. 360 M.D. Sanjay Gupta has details on that.
Also tonight, suspected serial bomber Eric Rudolph. Jury selection begins in his trial. We'll bring you the latest.
We'll be right back from Vatican City.
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COOPER: I'm coming to you live from Vatican City, where there is an energy and an excitement, where hundreds of thousands of people continue to line up to see the body of Pope John Paul II.
We're going to have more coverage on that coming up later on 360.
But first, we want to focus on a problem that affects so many people all around the world. According to the World Health Organization, alcoholism is the fourth-leading cause of disability worldwide. But there may be hope now for the 4 percent of American who suffer from it through a new monthly treatment, yet to be approved by the FDA, but which a study out today shows may hold promise.
360 M.D. Gupta -- Sanjay Gupta follows one man's struggle to recover.
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SANJAY GUPTA, CNN SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Since the age of 15, alcohol addiction controlled John Baums' life, hurting his personal relationships and affecting his high-profile culinary career.
JOHN BAUMS, ADDICTED TO ALCOHOL: There was no possible way that after a heavy night of drinking, or even when I was sober, I still had the -- basically had the alcohol in my system. It was impossible for me to be at 100 percent. Every aspect of my being was affected.
GUPTA: He tried psychoanalysis, an intensive outpatient program, AFRICAN-AMERICAN meetings, and simply going cold turkey. None of them worked.
BAUMS: I didn't see a future for my relationship with myself and my wife. I didn't see a financial future. I saw my with my family fading away. I saw my relationship with my, you know, with my friends fading away. I was afraid for my life. I thought I was going to die.
GUPTA: Finally, he tried the drug naltrexone, a pill designed to curb the craving for alcohol by blocking the euphoric feeling alcohol can give. And for the last eight months, John has been sober.
Taking a daily pill has been working for John, but for many alcoholics, sticking to a schedule and taking a pill every day is an extraordinary challenge.
DR. JAMES C. GARBUTT, ADDICTION MEDICINE SPECIALIST: Alcoholism is a disease where individuals are very mixed about what they want to happen. One the one hand, many folks want to get better. On the other hand, there's a part of them that's driving them to consume alcohol and drink alcohol.
GUPTA: So researchers have now developed an injectable form of the drug, given once a month instead of once a day.
BAUMS: By having it only once a month, you don't have to worry about it anymore. You don't have to be concerned with going to the drugstore to get your refill of prescription. You don't have to worry about possibly forgetting to take the pill. And you can focus on the other aspects of your life, for example, healing family wounds, working on your job, working on your physical health in addition to your emotional and mental health.
GUPTA: Side effects of the drug are minimal but include nausea and mild headaches, as well as fatigue. If approved by the FDA, the injectable form of naltrexone would join a short list of drugs designed to help control alcohol cravings.
For people struggling with alcohol, these drugs mean even more hope that they can recover from this disease.
RAYE LITTEN, PH.D., NATIONAL INSTITUTES OF HEALTH: They're not a magic bullet. They don't work for everyone. We are starting to develop medications to treat alcoholism that can have an effect.
GUPTA: For John, he's taking it one day at a time.
BAUMS: I see a bright future. By being on naltrexone, my urge to drink is completely gone. So I see a wonderful future ahead of me. My life is getting so much better, my work is wonderful. My relationships with my family are healing. I see a great future ahead of me and better mental and physical health.
GUPTA: Dr. Sanjay Gupta, CNN, Washington. (END VIDEOTAPE)
COOPER: Well, let's hope it works.
Tornadoes have struck in Mississippi.
Erica Hill from Headline News joins us with that and other headlines at about quarter past the hour. Hey, Erica.
ERICA HILL, HEADLINE NEWS: Hey, Anderson, good to see you.
Yes, tornadoes, and very violent ones at that. The Deep South dealing now with massive damage from this line of violent thunderstorms that brought with it several tornadoes. Mississippi the hardest hit. Two dozen homes were destroyed, at least one person seriously injured. And the roof was ripped off a school while, get this, classes were still going on. Much of the Southeast is still under storm warnings.
And bad weather is being blamed for the deadliest military crash in Afghanistan since U.S. troops were deployed there in 2001. At least 16 people are dead, two others remain unaccounted for. The U.S. military says the Chinook helicopter was on a routine mission when it encountered severe weather southwest of Kabul.
And slowly but surely, the space shuttle "Discovery" is heading to a launch pad. NASA briefly delayed the roll-out while engineers checked out a small crack in the foam that insulates the shuttle's external fuel tank. NASA says the shuttle is OK to fly. "Discovery"'s launch is set for next month. And this will be the first shuttle trip since "Columbia" exploded just over two years ago, killing all seven astronauts aboard.
And those are the latest headlines from Headline News. Anderson, back to you.
COOPER: Grazie, Erica. We'll see you again in about 30 minutes from Roma.
All right, next on 360, suspected serial bomber Eric Rudolph is facing judgment. Jury selection in his trial begins. We'll take a look at that.
And Boston Catholics mourning the loss of Pope John Paul II and talking about how he handled the clergy sex abuse scandal. Their feedback when this special edition of 360 continues.
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(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, July 27, 1996)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Move!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Move back now!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Evacuate the area, please. Go on, get (UNINTELLIGIBLE) that way now.
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COOPER: Well, that was back July 27, 1996. And sadly that's probably how a lot of us are going to remember the 1996 summer Olympics in Atlanta. Despite all the great things that happened at those games, a bomb exploded in Centennial Olympic Park. Prosecutors say it was planted by Eric Rudolph, a suspected serial bomber who avoided capture for many years.
Well, today, finally, jury selection began in Alabama in a trial accusing Rudolph of a deadly attack on an abortion clinic. The case against him has taken years to build. And it follows a massive, frustrating investigation filled with twists and turns and some embarrassing missteps. CNN's Heidi Collins has more.
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HEIDI COLLINS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): May 31, 2003, the man hunt is over. After five years on the run, hiding in the woods and eluding hundreds of federal agents Eric Rudolph is finally arrested, but only by chance.
Earlier that morning a rookie cop spotted him at random searching for food in a dumpster.
An arrest that to some symbolizes an investigation marred with miscues and mistakes as noted by CNN producer and author Henry Schuster.
HENRY SCHUSTER, CNN PRODUCER: It's an improbable story all the way through. And the capture is as improbable as the rest of it. In one sense this investigation was cursed from the start.
COLLINS: An investigation that started 7 years before with this 911 call placed from a pay phone on July 27, 1996.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There is a bomb in Centennial Park. You have 30 minutes...
COLLINS: 22 minutes later, a 30-pound pipe bomb exploded in the middle of the 1996 Olympics. One person was killed, 100 more injured.
From the start, investigators had few clues and no eyewitnesses. Yet within 48 hours the FBI zeroed in on this man, Richard Jewel, the security guard that first spotted the bomb.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I am not a suspect.
COLLINS: Only to rule him out as a suspect a few months later.
And then January 16, 1997, police respond to the scene of an explosion at an Atlanta clinic that performed abortions. A second bomb explodes.
And a month later, another bomb, this time targeting an Atlanta lesbian nightclub. And still investigators had no suspect, few leads.
SCHUSTER: So, they began talking about hoping they needed a silver bullet. What they meant by that was and what they didn't want to say was that the sad truth was it might take another bombing for them to get the break that they need. And that's precisely what happened.
COLLINS: January 29, 1998.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE; There's been a bombing at what?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: 1001..
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: 1001 17th St South.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A bomb explosion.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A bomb explosion. The New Women's Abortion Clinic.
COLLINS: A bomb explodes outside a Birmingham clinic, one security guard killed, another person badly wounded.
(on camera): But this time there's an eyewitness. He notices a man running from the scene and writes down a license plate number. From that, the FBI gets a name: Eric Rudolph. They move in quickly to try to arrest him, but already it's too late. Eric Rudolph is gone.
(voice-over): He was tipped off by Alabama's district attorney who decided to go public with Rudolph's name during a press conference broadcast live on CNN.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have issued the warrant for a Mr. Eric Robert Rudolph.
SCHUSTER: If there had been better communication between the agents in the field and the U.S. attorney, then the whole man hunt need never have happened.
COLLINS: During the five years, Rudolph eluded hundreds of federal agents armed with heavy weaponry and heat-seeking infrared radars. He hides in the North Carolina woods he grew up in. But his profile remains a mystery.
Son of a nun, turned white supremist, Rudolph expressed anti- government, anti-Jew, anti-gay feelings. He is also known to grow and sell marijuana.
His five years in hiding also raised many questions. How was he able to hide for so long? Was Eric Rudolph alone as he claims or did he get some help from local residents? Questions that his arrest in 2003 left unanswered.
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COLLINS: And even though it has been nearly two years since Eric Rudolph's capture and the jury for his trial is just now being chosen, there are many people who have waited a long time for answers to the complex questions that surround this case and this man.
That said, jury selection is expected to last several weeks. The tentative date for opening statements is June 9 according to federal court officials -- Anderson.
COOPER: And at what point -- I mean, what is his defense going to be?
COLLINS: Well, his defense we are not sure about. But it's interesting to know that right now, because there were four bombings and he is a suspect in those four bombings, two deaths as we said, 100 injuries that jury that's being selected right now is only going to pertain to the clinic bombing in Birmingham. Prosecutors do believe it will be the best way to convict Rudolph, because of the eyewitness we mentioned in our story. And, Anderson, they will be seeking the death penalty in that case.
COOPER: All right, Heidi Collins thanks very much.
ANNOUNCER: A killer escapes from prison taking the deputy warden's wife hostage.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I regret to say I was a hostage taker and I probably live to regret it.
ANNOUNCER: Now he's been arrested and questions are being asked. Was she really held against her will?
And the death of a prince. Tonight, a look back at the legendary romance between Prince Rainier and Grace Kelly. This special edition of 360 continues.
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COOPER: You are looking at some live pictures of Vatican City. Hundreds of thousands of people still lined up to see this pope lying in state. The line is now officially closed, people can now not join it. But we expect for the next, well, 24 hours or so, people to still be streaming through the Vatican. It's said some 18,000 people every hour.
If you look down, the list of U.S. cardinals who are going to be coming here and going to be voting for the next pope, some of them are already here, one name in particular stands out, Cardinal Bernard Law. He will be at the conclave.
Now you may remember that Law was once the archbishop of Boston until he resigned under pressure, criticized for the way he handled the priest sex abuse scandal. Our Gary Tuchman reports on how that diocese and abuse victims are dealing with the death of the pope.
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GARY TUCHMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): They had all come to Boston's Cathedral of the Holy Cross for the same reason, to honor, remember and pray for Pope John Paul II.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We loved him and we had to honor him by being here.
TUCHMAN: But, among some at the mass, a sense of confusion and disappointment still lingers about why more was not done about the clergy sexual abuse scandal that still deeply affects Boston.
Does that bother you that the pope didn't speak out more about it?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. Sure.
TUCHMAN: Tell me why.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, he was in a position to possibly have done more about it.
TUCHMAN: Bernie McDaid watched the TV coverage. Ask this former alter boy his feelings about the pope, and he'll say the pontiff was...
BERNIE MCDAID, PRIEST ABUSE VICTIM: ...a good man. He has obviously done good things in the world. I see that.
TUCHMAN: But McDaid also says he was repeatedly molested as a boy by a priest that used to pick him up at home. Reverend Joseph Birmingham was accused of molesting dozens of boy. He died in 1989. McDaid is one of more than 500 people that received a financial settlement from the Boston church.
MCDAID: I remember my poor mother catching me hiding in the backyard, going, how dare you hide from the priest. And I couldn't tell her, and I was made to go off in the car, like, here we go, you know?
TUCHMAN: McDaid says his life has never been the same. It's colored his view of the man who led the Catholic Church.
MCDAID: He didn't come out with what I consider a full apology for this issue, and to promote any awareness of the damage that had occurred to his church.
TUCHMAN: Many believe the Vatican response to the problem was too little too late. After the former Boston Archbishop Cardinal Bernard Law was forced to resign over the far-reaching impact of clergy sexual abuse in his archdiocese, there were hard feelings in Boston that the pope gave him a comparable position in Rome in which he'll still be participating in the conclave to select a new pope.
PROF. THOMAS GROOME, BOSTON COLLEGE: The perception I think would be as well that he himself was not proactive in his response to it. Now, I think a lot of that was because he was sick and elderly and maybe his lieutenants weren't giving him full reports and so on. There is a sense the Boston Catholics have that the pope never quite got it. TUCHMAN: John Paul II is loved in Boston.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think after Christ and the Virgin Mary, he was the third.
TUCHMAN: But for some, that love is complex. Gary Tuchman, CNN, Boston.
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COOPER: Well, the priest sex abuse scandal is one of many tough challenges the next pope will no doubt have to face. Earlier today CNN Vatican analyst John Allen spoke to some cardinals that are going to help choose the successor. He joins me now.
What did you find out?
JOHN ALLEN, CNN VATICAN ANALYST: Well, Anderson, I think the first thing is -- if there are two words you had to use to sum up what cardinals seem to be saying they are looking for in the next pope, they would be optimism and hope. It's pretty clear they don't want a kind of sermon drone figure who is going to be bleak, defensive, insular. They want someone who is going to carry forward, essentially, this pope's evangelizing thrust -- take his message on the road and offer a message of hope.
COOPER: Those are big shoes to fill, though, to be out on the road as much as John Paul did. Does that sort of hint that they want someone younger?
ALLEN: Well, I don't know that the age thing correlates. I mean, I think, there is one theory, as you probably know, that you don't want to follow a have long pontificate with another very long pontificate, because given the pace of change in the world, new challenges come up, and maybe there's an argument for fresh blood blood.
I think also the fact the pope declined so visibly in the public stage in his later years did leave a lot of people with the sense that things are kind of adrift, and so that would create some pressure for electing a slightly younger candidate. But on the other hand, if you don't want another long pontificate...
COOPER: How many hands are there?
ALLEN: That's exactly the problem with this handicapping business. You know, again, if we had better instruments to get a read on this thing, like a poll or something, we might be able to make some educated guesses. We really don't know. But, I would add also that another kind of more substantive thing a lot of cardinals seem to be talking about is -- the word that is used in the Catholic Church is collegiality, but what really that has to do with how power in the church is distributed. There's a strong sense among many cardinals that, particularly over the later years of John Paul's reign, too much power got concentrated here in Rome. And, in various ways, they are talking a little bit of decentralization. COOPER: Oh, really? Going back to local authorities, back to bishops, back to people have control of their countries or towns?
ALLEN: Yes, I mean, as you know, this pope was such a towering figure that, in some ways, although it wasn't his intent, he became in effect the bishop of the world. And a lot of local bishops think that they ought to have some responsibility and some authority, as well.
COOPER: There's also been a lot of talk about the condition that John Paul is in, what has been done to him. There's been some talk about whether or not he was embalmed. I mean, I don't want to go into too many gory details, but -- whether he was embalmed, the Vatican said he was prepared. Do we know what that means?
ALLEN: No, we don't. Unfortunately, we're in a period where we don't have too much access to the inner circle of Vatican officials who are making those decisions. That's one of the questions you would like to have an answer to. We know in the past there has been some unorthodox embalming techniques that have been used, with popes bodies, but what happened this time we don't know. What we do know is that apparently that talk that was floating around earlier in the week about, potentially, the pope's heart being removed and buried in his native Poland...
COOPER: Right, because many people in Poland, if they didn't want the body there, they at least wanted his heart to be taken to Poland.
ALLEN: That, apparently, is not going to happen. But, something else may happen, which is the mayor of the pope's own hometown, a little town outside of Krakow called Wadowice, is on her way to Rome right now with a bag of soil from Wadowice, which she is hoping will be put in the pope's grave. At least in some way he will be returning to Polish soil.
COOPER: I understand, though, that there are many requests, though, of people wanting to put things in the pope's grave. There are some coins that are going to be...
ALLEN: Well, that's not a request. That's part of the scripted Vatican ritual. What will happen is, in that casket, and remember, he's in a casket of cypress, then lead -- three caskets -- and then an open casket. But, in that casket, a veil, a silver veil, will be placed on his face, a parchment, listing the days of his life, coins struck for each year of his reign in a little bag will be placed. And, in addition, that fisherman's ring which is a symbol of his office, which of course, was smashed when he died -- that goes back to the Middle Ages because that ring was used to seal documents and this way no one could put out forged documents -- the remnants of that ring will be gathered up and put in the coffin.
COOPER: In the olden days, people took relics, I mean, they took out the internal organs. They don't do that anymore; they stopped that centuries ago. But do people take locks of hair? Does the Vatican do things like that? ALLEN: My guess is, although they are not going to put out a press release on this, certainly some kind of physical relic of the pope is going to be preserved by members of his intimate household. Because the truth is, I think there's a pretty broad conviction that some day this pope may well be a saint, and of course, in traditional Catholic devotion, you want to have those relics as part of the cult of that saint.
COOPER: Interesting. I talked to one American cardinal who said he would like to see John Paul made a saint. I think we're going to hear a lot about that in the coming days.
ALLEN: Absolutely.
COOPER: John Allen, thanks very much.
ALLEN: You bet.
COOPER: Well, coming up next on 360, a fugitive accused of kidnapping a deputy prison warden's wife for nearly 11 years. One mystery may have been solved but there are a lot of questions that remain. We're going to take a look into it.
Also, tonight, remembering the prince. Prince Rainier, the ruler who brought glamour to Monaco with his marriage to Grace Kelly.
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COOPER: The wife of a deputy prison warden kidnapped nearly 11 years ago. She has been found alive, but a lot of people there don't buy her story she was held against her will by a fugitive. 360 next.
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COOPER: On August 30, 1994, a convicted killer escaped from an Oklahoma prison, but he didn't leave empty-handed. He took the warden's wife with him. The two haven't been seen for nearly 11 years, but that all changed this week. CNN's Ed Lavendera reports on the end of one mystery and the start of another.
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RANDOLPH DIAL, CAPTURED KILLER: Progression of events. Houston...
ED LAVANDERA, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Randolph Dial's story reads more like outlandish fiction than real life. He was a chicken killing farmer on the run, with self proclaimed mob connections, and a flare for painting and sculpting in his spare time. After his headline grabbing arrest, it's clear the man likes to put on a show.
DIAL: Well, boys and girls. It's Howdy Doody time.
LAVANDERA: Randolph Dial first made headlines when he escaped from this Oklahoma prison 10 years ago. He says he forced the deputy warden's wife, Bobbi Parker, into a car to escape.
DIAL: I was armed only with a knife against her carotid artery in her leg.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So...
DIAL: Get's your attention.
LAVANDERA: Dial was a prison trustee which means he had more freedom than most convicts. He convinced prison authorities to let him start an inmate pottery program. That's how he met Bobbi Parker who helped out with the class.
DIAL: I had worked on her for about a year trying to get her mind right. And I convinced her that the friend was the enemy and the enemy was the friend
LAVANDERA: Nearly 11 years ago they disappeared. Her husband and two daughters feared she'd been killed, but the bad news never came. Then Monday afternoon a tip was phoned in to the TV show "America's Most Wanted." Bobbi Parker was mowing the grass field, Dial was watching golf and cooking meat patties in their trailer when the past came knocking on the door.
CAPT. MIKE TOLLETT, SHELBY CO. SHERIFF'S DEPT.: Went in the front door and he was standing in the living room. And he was caught completely by surprised, had no idea that we were coming.
LAVANDERA: No one around Camp Dye (ph), Texas knew Randolph Dial and Bobbi Parker. To anyone who asked they were Richard and Samantha Deal (ph), a couple raising chickens and living a quiet life in his trailer.
SHERIFF NEWTON JONES, SHELBY COUNTY: He kept real low keyed and stayed out of sight. And he didn't drive. He didn't have a driver's license. He didn't have a Social Security number. He didn't do anything to bring any attention to himself.
LAVANDERA (on camera): This is a great place to hide. The nearest main road is six miles down this dirt path. Apparently Randolph Dial was happy spending his days out here. He told authorities that in the five years he lived here, he only went into town a couple of times, once to go to the grocery store, once to go to the library.
(voice-over): But Bobbi Parker was often seen in town coming to the Big M Market to cash checks and buy groceries.
PATTI HALL, BIG M MARKET: Real friendly, real polite. Seemed happy to me.
TAMMY BROWN, BIG M MARKET: I don't buy her story at all. How could she be held hostage for (UNINTELLIGIBLE). If you're able to come and get gas, why didn't you just drive off.
LAVANDERA: Mrs. Parker and her family are back together, but they're not talking about what happened. Dial says he brainwashed Mrs. Parker into thinking that if he ever tried to get away he'd kill her daughters.
DIAL: She's a very special person and very easy to like. And when you've done nine years without any human contact of any kind, not even a pat on the shoulder, any kind of kindness is warmly received.
LAVANDERA: There aren't too many people who believe this story, but Chief Deputy Kent Shaffer who spent eight hours interviewing Dial.
KENT SHAFFER, SHELBY CO. SHERIFF'S DEPT.: It would just seem like if it was him, his duty was to get out of prison after being there one day. It would seem like to me her job would be to escape after one day.
LAVANDERA: The story of Randolph Dial and Bobbi Parker isn't over yet. What's unfolded in the last few days has added new twists to a bizarre tale.
Ed Lavandera, CNN, Shelby County, Texas.
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COOPER: Strange story, we're tracking several other stories tonight. For the latest let's go to Headline News Erica Hill, at about a quarter to the hour.
HILL: Hey, Anderson, good to see you again. Iraq has a new president. If that's not a headline that will grab you I don't know what will. The Iraqi Parliament elected Kurdish leader, Jalal Talabani president today. Former dictator Saddam Hussein watched a videotape of the assembly from his cell. A three-day holiday has been declared in the Kurdish region in northern Iraq where people are understandably celebrating in the streets. Tomorrow the assembly is expected to name a new prime minister, and will then choose a cabinet and begin drafting a constitution.
White supremacist Matthew Hale will spend 40 years in prison for trying to have a federal judge killed. Hale was convicted of soliciting an FBI undercover agent to kill Joan Lefkow. She's the same judge whose husband and mother was killed five weeks ago, by a man authorities say had no connection to Hale. Prosecutor say Hale was angry Lefkow forced his white supremacist group to stop using the name the World Church of the Creator because it was trademarked by someone else.
And the registered sex offender charged with sexually assaulting and killing a 9-year-old Florida girl has pleaded not guilty. Still authorities say John Couey did confess to killing Jessica Lunsford. Prosecutors say they plan to seek the death penalty.
And that's a quick look at the top stories from Headline News.
Anderson, back to you in Roma (ph), as you say.
COOPER: Arrivedeci. All right, thanks very much, Erica. See you again in about 30 minutes.
Vatican City isn't the only tiny European nation mourning a long- time ruler. Monaco is grieving after the death of Prince Rainier. We'll bring the latest on that story.
Plus, here in St. Peter's Square, long lines around the clock waiting for hours to say good-bye. They've just shut the doors. They say they're going to open them ASAP, not sure how long that's going to be though. My "Reporters Notebook" inside the crowd, what it feels like, what it looks like to be in -- in all that -- in all that humanity. Be right back.
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COOPER: That is the royal family of Monaco attending Mass for Prince Rainier, Europe's longest reigning Monarch died this morning at 81 years of age. After the Vatican, Monaco is the smallest country in the world. It has Monte-Carlo and the Grand Prix, and for many years it was home to one of the most romantic love stories ever told.
CNN's Rudi Bakhtiar has more on the prince and his Hollywood princess, Grace Kelly.
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RUDI BAKHTIAR, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Prince Rainier's story reads like the fairy tale on the French Rivera, without a storybook ending. The heir to the Grimaldi thrown at 25, Rainier would preserve Monaco as a tax haven, build up its casinos and hotels, and transform it into a play ground for the bold, beautiful and loaded.
But it was a Philadelphia girl who put Rainier in the spotlight. He met Grace Kelly in Cannes in 1955. She was promoting the Hitchcock movie, "To Catch a Thief."
They wed in 1956. She looking every bit the princess in her movie studio gown in the televised extraveganza.
Grace bore Renier three children, Prince Albert shared childhood memories with CNN's Larry King.
PRINCE ALBERT, MONACO: She was strict when she had to be. Hopefully it wasn't too often. But she really gave us a lot of her love and her care. And I think we had such a wonderful childhood because of that.
BAKHTIAR: Publicly the royals attended glittering parties, privately roomers persisted of extra marital affairs on both sides. In 1982, their story ended.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Monaco in Southern France are in shock after the surprise announcement of the death of Princess Grace.
BAKHTIAR: Princess Grace's Rover plunging down a Mediterranean cliff. Only Princess Stephanie was with her at the time. And for years from the palace, denials that Stephanie was driving.
PRINCE ALBERT: It came from different reports saying that she came out of the car on the driver's side. But that's because the car was on that other side. So that was the only way out of there.
BAKHTIAR: Prince Rainier cried openly at Grace's funeral. And Princess Caroline became Monaco's first lady.
48 and remarried now, some say it was losing her second husband in the boating accident that caused Caroline to lose her hair. The youngest Princess Stephanie is 40. Her bad luck, bad husbands, including bodyguard Daniel Decruet photographed cavorting with Miss Nude Belgium.
Prince Albert, at 47, known for liking supermodels and still a bachelor. The fact he never married prompted Rainier to amend Monaco's constitution so his daughter's children could be in the line of succession.
But in this land of great wealth and heartbreak, what awaits his highness and his kingdom.
CHARLES MOSLEY, EDITOR & CHIEF, DEBRETTS: Monaco was once described by Noel Cowart (ph) as a sunny place for shady people. He may have stored up trouble for his successor.
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BAKHTIAR: Now Prince Albert has already taken over his father's royal duties after a commission decided just last week that the critically ill Rainier could no longer rule.
As for the funeral, well, it is scheduled for April 15 at the 19th Century Monaco Cathedral where he and Princess Grace were wed many years ago. And where she is buried now, he will be laid to rest next to her.
Also a little side note here, in accordance with tradition, Monaco's national date changes with Rainier's death. It moves from November 19, the day of Saint Rainier of Pisa to November 15, which is Saint Albert's day -- Anderson.
COOPER: Where do you find this stuff out, Rudi?
BAKHTIAR: I can tell you Anderson, but -- then I'd have to -- bring you back from Rome.
COOPER: Say no more. Ba-dump-ba. Thanks very much, Rudi. Appreciate it.
Coming up next on this special edition of 360, my "Reporter's Notebook" on what it is like being inside the crowds of hundreds of thousands of people as far as the eye can see. It's an interesting experience. I can tell you. Standing in line for hours, some as long as 12 hours here in St. Peter's Square to say one last good-bye to Pope John Paul II.
That's a live shot, 1:53 a.m. And that crowd is going to be waiting for at least ten more hours. Be right back.
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COOPER: The faces of devotion.
On a story like this we like to try to bring you all the angles. And a story this big, that means trying to get cameras in as many different places as possible to try to get our arms around this story.
Last night I spent some time in the crowd, this long crowd that is as far as the eye can see waiting on line. I brought a home video camera with me. And just filed this report from inside the crowd. Just to give you a tense of what it feels like. What it looks like standing in the midst of all those people.
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COOPER (voice-over): In the dead of night they wait on a line that seems to have no end. Many will wait six hours or more. The police hold their lines so no one breaks through.
(on camera): This group has been waiting for about 20 minutes in this one spot. The police are about to let them go through. And they will run all the way over to that spot. Here they go.
Then once the group gets to the barricades they have to stop again. You are sort of just stuck here. You can tell it's pretty close quarters. Everyone stuck right next to each other.
You see scenes like this a lot. People are standing around so long, some of them actually pass out because either from the pressure of the crowd or lack of food or water, because they have been standing in line so long.
The paramedics are on the scene here.
The crowd parts -- the crowds calls over the medical technicians to come. And now they are going to bring this person out.
(voice-over): Children sit exhausted, so do adults. Those stuck standing, watch what is happening inside.
Everywhere there is music, giant speakers on every block. Finally, after hours of waiting, the crowds enter St. Peter's Square. The crowds finally arrive here at the heart of St. Peter's Square within sight of St. Peter's Basilica. These people know that soon they will be able to say good-bye one last time to Pope John Paul II.
Tom Moscher and Ben Keeley are Catholic priests from Vermont. They feel lucky to be here.
REV. BEN KEELEY, FROM VERMONT: The whole mass of humanity is swarming around this place. For a breif moment, the whole world is focusing on Rome. And we could be here in the -- we have cameras and we have microphones, but we could be in the 14th Century.
REV. TOME MOSCHER, FROM VERMONT: It's timeless. Absolutely timeless.
COOPER: Timeless and eternal. In the dead of night on this line, they stand together. In the dead of night on this line, no rich, no poor, no young, no old. In the dead of night, on this line, there is only faith.
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COOPER: Well that's it for 360 from Vatican City. I'm Anderson Cooper. CNN's primetime coverage continues now with PAULA ZAHN.
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ANDERSON COOPER, HOST: Good evening from Vatican City. I'm Anderson Cooper.
President Bush arrives for the funeral of the pope, and an American legal icon is laid to rest.
360 starts now.
ANNOUNCER: Johnnie Cochran laid to rest, his past clients Michael Jackson and O.J. Simpson pay their respects.
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O.J. SIMPSON: Johnnie fought or his clients, not, no matter how popular or unpopular the cause was.
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ANNOUNCER: Surprising moments from the star-studded funeral.
A killer escapes from prison, taking the deputy warden's wife hostage.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I regret to say I was the hostage taker, and I, I'll probably live to regret it.
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ANNOUNCER: Now he's been arrested, and questions are being asked. Was she really held against her will?
Millions of Americans abuse alcohol. Relationships and lives are ruined. But now there's a new treatment.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: My urge to drink is completely gone.
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ANNOUNCER: Could this be a medical breakthrough?
And the death of a prince. Tonight, a look back at the legendary romance between Prince Rainier and Grace Kelly. Live from Vatican City, this is a special edition of ANDERSON COOPER 360.
COOPER: Good evening again from Vatican City.
The story here, for the fourth day, now continues to be one of waiting. Wherever you look, in whatever direction, near and far, there are troops of people, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, standing and waiting.
On the other hand, those who arrived aboard Air Force One today some hours ago didn't have to wait at all.
CNN senior White House correspondent John King is here to tell us all about it. Hey, John.
JOHN KING, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Hello to you.
President Bush, you're right, he did get to cut the line, if you will, tens of thousands waiting, President Bush and the five-member U.S. delegation, plus senior White House staffers, came in, a quick 30-minute drive from the airport, police escort, of course, and they went for a private viewing, the president and two former presidents, his father and Bill Clinton, as well as first lady Laura Bush, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. That is the official delegation.
They took some time, the White House says, to offer some personal reflections. They of course will be here with all the heads of state and other dignitaries from around the world Friday for the official funeral. The White House says the president as well as President Clinton and former President Bush wanted to have a moment of personal reflection. They certainly also had a moment, if you will, on the global stage that we are seeing unfold here.
But they will be part of the ceremonies. In the case of the current president and Bill Clinton, you have two leaders who have openly worn their religion, if you will, worn their faith in their politics. This president's father much more reserved in that way. But they said they wanted a private moment, a personal moment to pray and reflect. And they've all, of course, been on the receiving end of lectures from this pope. But that's a discussion we've had in past days that we will have again.
COOPER: Of course, every, for every private moment, it's also a very public moment and a political moment.
KING: It is. But never remember, this president was here during the campaign. And a great deal was made about that, because it was at a time many Catholic bishops back in the United States were saying, Make abortion the number one issue in the election. And many thought the president came here to reinforce that. John Kerry, of course, a Catholic.
Mr. Bush isn't running again. So there are some who will say maybe he's getting an extra moment in the spotlight, if you will. But he won't be on a ballot ever again. COOPER: And as we look at the pictures of them inside St. Peter's Basilica, I mean, it's an, (UNINTELLIGIBLE) extraordinary images, seeing them sitting there. We don't see Jimmy Carter. There's been a little bit of a sort of a dust-up about -- he's kind of a he said, they said.
KING: At a minimum, miscommunication. Certainly some friction between the staffs, President Carter saying tonight there is no dissension between he and the White House right now. But certainly his staff says that he did not get clear word from the White House that President Clinton and former president Bush were coming.
And (UNINTELLIGIBLE) by the time did, it was too late. The White House says as soon as they knew that President Clinton's doctors would say OK and that President Bush's father, president 41, as they call him at the White House, would come, they quickly called Jimmy Carter. So there certainly was a miscommunication. The staff seemed to be a little tense at each other, President Carter saying tonight, Let's just let this go.
COOPER: But they are staying for the funeral. The presidents, yes.
KING: The former presidents will be here through the funeral on Friday, and then back to the States.
COOPER: All right, John King, welcome to Rome.
KING: Thank you, Anderson.
COOPER: And Vatican City. Thanks, John.
We're doing our best to bring this extraordinary event into focus. We're also pretty certain that your television set isn't big enough. I don't care how big a screen you got, I don't care if it's a plasma TV. A movie screen would not do it justice either, however wide that movie screen is.
These are scenes of mass gathering that bewilder the eyes, even of those of us who can stand here and see them for ourselves. There are hundreds of thousands of people right now quietly waiting to say their farewells, hundreds of thousands of people, patient and undeterred.
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COOPER (voice-over): For the third day in a row, the faithful filed into St. Peter's Basilica to look, to pray, to bid farewell to Pope John Paul II. They swarmed the streets of Rome. More than 4 million have made their way into the Eternal City, according to the chief of police, snarling traffic, packing trains, stretching resources to their limits, lining up in the hot sun and the evening chill, surprising some with their patience.
CARDINAL FRANCIS GEORGE, ARCHBISHOP OF CHICAGO: This number of people, you'd expect all kinds of things. It's very orderly and yet very human. I mean, they're keeping order, but they're also respecting people, as he always did.
COOPER: But soon, this period of public grieving will end. Just hours ago, authorities stopped mourners from lining up to ensure that those who have waited so long will make their way inside the basilica before it closes and preparations for the pope's funeral begin.
Away from the growing crowds, the cardinals continued the business of the Vatican, announcing that the conclave will begin on April 18, and revealing one part of the pope's will, that despite hinting in 2003 he had appointed a cardinal in pectore, in his heart, there would in the end be no secret cardinal.
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COOPER: Well, we're going to come back to the story of what is happening right here in Vatican City throughout the program.
But we do have a number of other interesting stories making news today back at home.
While much is being made of the dignitaries showing up here, there was a funeral in Los Angeles where the list of the famous, well, it was pretty interesting in its own way. It was the funeral of famed attorney Johnnie Cochran, who died from a brain tumor last week.
Among those on hand, O.J. Simpson and Michael Jackson.
CNN's Ted Rowlands has more.
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TED ROWLANDS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): They came to say good-bye to Johnnie Cochran, among them, celebrity friends, celebrity lawyers, politicians, and celebrity clients, including Michael Jackson and O.J. Simpson.
O.J. SIMPSON: Johnnie fought for his clients, he never -- no matter how popular or unpopular the cause was or the verdict was, you know, Johnnie stayed sure. He didn't try to half-step when it was over, like some guys have done.
STEVIE WONDER: Johnnie, I'll never forget your laughter, I'll never forget your voice.
ROWLANDS: It wasn't just the rich and famous. There were also thousands of people from the Los Angeles community where Cochran lived. During the more than three-hour service, those who knew Cochran best took turns describing him as a tireless advocate for justice who touched thousands of lives.
GEROMINO PRATT, FORMER COCHRAN CLIENT: I salute Johnnie with all of the fervor, with all of the realness, of all of the brothers and sisters who are still in prison.
REV. AL SHARPTON: In all due respect to you, Brother Simpson, we didn't clap when the acquittal of Simpson came for O.J. We were clapping for Johnnie. We were clapping because for decades, our brothers, our cousins, our uncles had to stand in the well with no one to stand up for them. And finally a black man came and said, If it don't fit, you must acquit.
ROWLANDS: Johnnie Cochran died from a brain tumor at the age of 67.
JONATHAN COCHRAN, SON: Look at it now, it seems like he was taken too soon. But I think of it as, he's on a big case, and for whatever reason, God needed a lawyer in heaven and said, Call Johnnie Cochran.
TIFFANY COCHRAN EDWARDS, DAUGHTER: He was such a wonderful man. He was just wonderful. He meant everything to me. And Dad, I know that you are the best-dressed man in heaven.
ROWLANDS: Ted Rowlands, CNN, Los Angeles.
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COOPER: Well, coming up next on 360, taking a shot at alcoholism. How a monthly needle injection may help you stay sober. 360 M.D. Sanjay Gupta has details on that.
Also tonight, suspected serial bomber Eric Rudolph. Jury selection begins in his trial. We'll bring you the latest.
We'll be right back from Vatican City.
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COOPER: I'm coming to you live from Vatican City, where there is an energy and an excitement, where hundreds of thousands of people continue to line up to see the body of Pope John Paul II.
We're going to have more coverage on that coming up later on 360.
But first, we want to focus on a problem that affects so many people all around the world. According to the World Health Organization, alcoholism is the fourth-leading cause of disability worldwide. But there may be hope now for the 4 percent of American who suffer from it through a new monthly treatment, yet to be approved by the FDA, but which a study out today shows may hold promise.
360 M.D. Gupta -- Sanjay Gupta follows one man's struggle to recover.
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SANJAY GUPTA, CNN SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Since the age of 15, alcohol addiction controlled John Baums' life, hurting his personal relationships and affecting his high-profile culinary career.
JOHN BAUMS, ADDICTED TO ALCOHOL: There was no possible way that after a heavy night of drinking, or even when I was sober, I still had the -- basically had the alcohol in my system. It was impossible for me to be at 100 percent. Every aspect of my being was affected.
GUPTA: He tried psychoanalysis, an intensive outpatient program, AFRICAN-AMERICAN meetings, and simply going cold turkey. None of them worked.
BAUMS: I didn't see a future for my relationship with myself and my wife. I didn't see a financial future. I saw my with my family fading away. I saw my relationship with my, you know, with my friends fading away. I was afraid for my life. I thought I was going to die.
GUPTA: Finally, he tried the drug naltrexone, a pill designed to curb the craving for alcohol by blocking the euphoric feeling alcohol can give. And for the last eight months, John has been sober.
Taking a daily pill has been working for John, but for many alcoholics, sticking to a schedule and taking a pill every day is an extraordinary challenge.
DR. JAMES C. GARBUTT, ADDICTION MEDICINE SPECIALIST: Alcoholism is a disease where individuals are very mixed about what they want to happen. One the one hand, many folks want to get better. On the other hand, there's a part of them that's driving them to consume alcohol and drink alcohol.
GUPTA: So researchers have now developed an injectable form of the drug, given once a month instead of once a day.
BAUMS: By having it only once a month, you don't have to worry about it anymore. You don't have to be concerned with going to the drugstore to get your refill of prescription. You don't have to worry about possibly forgetting to take the pill. And you can focus on the other aspects of your life, for example, healing family wounds, working on your job, working on your physical health in addition to your emotional and mental health.
GUPTA: Side effects of the drug are minimal but include nausea and mild headaches, as well as fatigue. If approved by the FDA, the injectable form of naltrexone would join a short list of drugs designed to help control alcohol cravings.
For people struggling with alcohol, these drugs mean even more hope that they can recover from this disease.
RAYE LITTEN, PH.D., NATIONAL INSTITUTES OF HEALTH: They're not a magic bullet. They don't work for everyone. We are starting to develop medications to treat alcoholism that can have an effect.
GUPTA: For John, he's taking it one day at a time.
BAUMS: I see a bright future. By being on naltrexone, my urge to drink is completely gone. So I see a wonderful future ahead of me. My life is getting so much better, my work is wonderful. My relationships with my family are healing. I see a great future ahead of me and better mental and physical health.
GUPTA: Dr. Sanjay Gupta, CNN, Washington. (END VIDEOTAPE)
COOPER: Well, let's hope it works.
Tornadoes have struck in Mississippi.
Erica Hill from Headline News joins us with that and other headlines at about quarter past the hour. Hey, Erica.
ERICA HILL, HEADLINE NEWS: Hey, Anderson, good to see you.
Yes, tornadoes, and very violent ones at that. The Deep South dealing now with massive damage from this line of violent thunderstorms that brought with it several tornadoes. Mississippi the hardest hit. Two dozen homes were destroyed, at least one person seriously injured. And the roof was ripped off a school while, get this, classes were still going on. Much of the Southeast is still under storm warnings.
And bad weather is being blamed for the deadliest military crash in Afghanistan since U.S. troops were deployed there in 2001. At least 16 people are dead, two others remain unaccounted for. The U.S. military says the Chinook helicopter was on a routine mission when it encountered severe weather southwest of Kabul.
And slowly but surely, the space shuttle "Discovery" is heading to a launch pad. NASA briefly delayed the roll-out while engineers checked out a small crack in the foam that insulates the shuttle's external fuel tank. NASA says the shuttle is OK to fly. "Discovery"'s launch is set for next month. And this will be the first shuttle trip since "Columbia" exploded just over two years ago, killing all seven astronauts aboard.
And those are the latest headlines from Headline News. Anderson, back to you.
COOPER: Grazie, Erica. We'll see you again in about 30 minutes from Roma.
All right, next on 360, suspected serial bomber Eric Rudolph is facing judgment. Jury selection in his trial begins. We'll take a look at that.
And Boston Catholics mourning the loss of Pope John Paul II and talking about how he handled the clergy sex abuse scandal. Their feedback when this special edition of 360 continues.
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(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, July 27, 1996)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Move!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Move back now!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Evacuate the area, please. Go on, get (UNINTELLIGIBLE) that way now.
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COOPER: Well, that was back July 27, 1996. And sadly that's probably how a lot of us are going to remember the 1996 summer Olympics in Atlanta. Despite all the great things that happened at those games, a bomb exploded in Centennial Olympic Park. Prosecutors say it was planted by Eric Rudolph, a suspected serial bomber who avoided capture for many years.
Well, today, finally, jury selection began in Alabama in a trial accusing Rudolph of a deadly attack on an abortion clinic. The case against him has taken years to build. And it follows a massive, frustrating investigation filled with twists and turns and some embarrassing missteps. CNN's Heidi Collins has more.
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HEIDI COLLINS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): May 31, 2003, the man hunt is over. After five years on the run, hiding in the woods and eluding hundreds of federal agents Eric Rudolph is finally arrested, but only by chance.
Earlier that morning a rookie cop spotted him at random searching for food in a dumpster.
An arrest that to some symbolizes an investigation marred with miscues and mistakes as noted by CNN producer and author Henry Schuster.
HENRY SCHUSTER, CNN PRODUCER: It's an improbable story all the way through. And the capture is as improbable as the rest of it. In one sense this investigation was cursed from the start.
COLLINS: An investigation that started 7 years before with this 911 call placed from a pay phone on July 27, 1996.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There is a bomb in Centennial Park. You have 30 minutes...
COLLINS: 22 minutes later, a 30-pound pipe bomb exploded in the middle of the 1996 Olympics. One person was killed, 100 more injured.
From the start, investigators had few clues and no eyewitnesses. Yet within 48 hours the FBI zeroed in on this man, Richard Jewel, the security guard that first spotted the bomb.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I am not a suspect.
COLLINS: Only to rule him out as a suspect a few months later.
And then January 16, 1997, police respond to the scene of an explosion at an Atlanta clinic that performed abortions. A second bomb explodes.
And a month later, another bomb, this time targeting an Atlanta lesbian nightclub. And still investigators had no suspect, few leads.
SCHUSTER: So, they began talking about hoping they needed a silver bullet. What they meant by that was and what they didn't want to say was that the sad truth was it might take another bombing for them to get the break that they need. And that's precisely what happened.
COLLINS: January 29, 1998.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE; There's been a bombing at what?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: 1001..
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: 1001 17th St South.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A bomb explosion.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A bomb explosion. The New Women's Abortion Clinic.
COLLINS: A bomb explodes outside a Birmingham clinic, one security guard killed, another person badly wounded.
(on camera): But this time there's an eyewitness. He notices a man running from the scene and writes down a license plate number. From that, the FBI gets a name: Eric Rudolph. They move in quickly to try to arrest him, but already it's too late. Eric Rudolph is gone.
(voice-over): He was tipped off by Alabama's district attorney who decided to go public with Rudolph's name during a press conference broadcast live on CNN.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have issued the warrant for a Mr. Eric Robert Rudolph.
SCHUSTER: If there had been better communication between the agents in the field and the U.S. attorney, then the whole man hunt need never have happened.
COLLINS: During the five years, Rudolph eluded hundreds of federal agents armed with heavy weaponry and heat-seeking infrared radars. He hides in the North Carolina woods he grew up in. But his profile remains a mystery.
Son of a nun, turned white supremist, Rudolph expressed anti- government, anti-Jew, anti-gay feelings. He is also known to grow and sell marijuana.
His five years in hiding also raised many questions. How was he able to hide for so long? Was Eric Rudolph alone as he claims or did he get some help from local residents? Questions that his arrest in 2003 left unanswered.
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COLLINS: And even though it has been nearly two years since Eric Rudolph's capture and the jury for his trial is just now being chosen, there are many people who have waited a long time for answers to the complex questions that surround this case and this man.
That said, jury selection is expected to last several weeks. The tentative date for opening statements is June 9 according to federal court officials -- Anderson.
COOPER: And at what point -- I mean, what is his defense going to be?
COLLINS: Well, his defense we are not sure about. But it's interesting to know that right now, because there were four bombings and he is a suspect in those four bombings, two deaths as we said, 100 injuries that jury that's being selected right now is only going to pertain to the clinic bombing in Birmingham. Prosecutors do believe it will be the best way to convict Rudolph, because of the eyewitness we mentioned in our story. And, Anderson, they will be seeking the death penalty in that case.
COOPER: All right, Heidi Collins thanks very much.
ANNOUNCER: A killer escapes from prison taking the deputy warden's wife hostage.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I regret to say I was a hostage taker and I probably live to regret it.
ANNOUNCER: Now he's been arrested and questions are being asked. Was she really held against her will?
And the death of a prince. Tonight, a look back at the legendary romance between Prince Rainier and Grace Kelly. This special edition of 360 continues.
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COOPER: You are looking at some live pictures of Vatican City. Hundreds of thousands of people still lined up to see this pope lying in state. The line is now officially closed, people can now not join it. But we expect for the next, well, 24 hours or so, people to still be streaming through the Vatican. It's said some 18,000 people every hour.
If you look down, the list of U.S. cardinals who are going to be coming here and going to be voting for the next pope, some of them are already here, one name in particular stands out, Cardinal Bernard Law. He will be at the conclave.
Now you may remember that Law was once the archbishop of Boston until he resigned under pressure, criticized for the way he handled the priest sex abuse scandal. Our Gary Tuchman reports on how that diocese and abuse victims are dealing with the death of the pope.
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GARY TUCHMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): They had all come to Boston's Cathedral of the Holy Cross for the same reason, to honor, remember and pray for Pope John Paul II.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We loved him and we had to honor him by being here.
TUCHMAN: But, among some at the mass, a sense of confusion and disappointment still lingers about why more was not done about the clergy sexual abuse scandal that still deeply affects Boston.
Does that bother you that the pope didn't speak out more about it?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. Sure.
TUCHMAN: Tell me why.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, he was in a position to possibly have done more about it.
TUCHMAN: Bernie McDaid watched the TV coverage. Ask this former alter boy his feelings about the pope, and he'll say the pontiff was...
BERNIE MCDAID, PRIEST ABUSE VICTIM: ...a good man. He has obviously done good things in the world. I see that.
TUCHMAN: But McDaid also says he was repeatedly molested as a boy by a priest that used to pick him up at home. Reverend Joseph Birmingham was accused of molesting dozens of boy. He died in 1989. McDaid is one of more than 500 people that received a financial settlement from the Boston church.
MCDAID: I remember my poor mother catching me hiding in the backyard, going, how dare you hide from the priest. And I couldn't tell her, and I was made to go off in the car, like, here we go, you know?
TUCHMAN: McDaid says his life has never been the same. It's colored his view of the man who led the Catholic Church.
MCDAID: He didn't come out with what I consider a full apology for this issue, and to promote any awareness of the damage that had occurred to his church.
TUCHMAN: Many believe the Vatican response to the problem was too little too late. After the former Boston Archbishop Cardinal Bernard Law was forced to resign over the far-reaching impact of clergy sexual abuse in his archdiocese, there were hard feelings in Boston that the pope gave him a comparable position in Rome in which he'll still be participating in the conclave to select a new pope.
PROF. THOMAS GROOME, BOSTON COLLEGE: The perception I think would be as well that he himself was not proactive in his response to it. Now, I think a lot of that was because he was sick and elderly and maybe his lieutenants weren't giving him full reports and so on. There is a sense the Boston Catholics have that the pope never quite got it. TUCHMAN: John Paul II is loved in Boston.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think after Christ and the Virgin Mary, he was the third.
TUCHMAN: But for some, that love is complex. Gary Tuchman, CNN, Boston.
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COOPER: Well, the priest sex abuse scandal is one of many tough challenges the next pope will no doubt have to face. Earlier today CNN Vatican analyst John Allen spoke to some cardinals that are going to help choose the successor. He joins me now.
What did you find out?
JOHN ALLEN, CNN VATICAN ANALYST: Well, Anderson, I think the first thing is -- if there are two words you had to use to sum up what cardinals seem to be saying they are looking for in the next pope, they would be optimism and hope. It's pretty clear they don't want a kind of sermon drone figure who is going to be bleak, defensive, insular. They want someone who is going to carry forward, essentially, this pope's evangelizing thrust -- take his message on the road and offer a message of hope.
COOPER: Those are big shoes to fill, though, to be out on the road as much as John Paul did. Does that sort of hint that they want someone younger?
ALLEN: Well, I don't know that the age thing correlates. I mean, I think, there is one theory, as you probably know, that you don't want to follow a have long pontificate with another very long pontificate, because given the pace of change in the world, new challenges come up, and maybe there's an argument for fresh blood blood.
I think also the fact the pope declined so visibly in the public stage in his later years did leave a lot of people with the sense that things are kind of adrift, and so that would create some pressure for electing a slightly younger candidate. But on the other hand, if you don't want another long pontificate...
COOPER: How many hands are there?
ALLEN: That's exactly the problem with this handicapping business. You know, again, if we had better instruments to get a read on this thing, like a poll or something, we might be able to make some educated guesses. We really don't know. But, I would add also that another kind of more substantive thing a lot of cardinals seem to be talking about is -- the word that is used in the Catholic Church is collegiality, but what really that has to do with how power in the church is distributed. There's a strong sense among many cardinals that, particularly over the later years of John Paul's reign, too much power got concentrated here in Rome. And, in various ways, they are talking a little bit of decentralization. COOPER: Oh, really? Going back to local authorities, back to bishops, back to people have control of their countries or towns?
ALLEN: Yes, I mean, as you know, this pope was such a towering figure that, in some ways, although it wasn't his intent, he became in effect the bishop of the world. And a lot of local bishops think that they ought to have some responsibility and some authority, as well.
COOPER: There's also been a lot of talk about the condition that John Paul is in, what has been done to him. There's been some talk about whether or not he was embalmed. I mean, I don't want to go into too many gory details, but -- whether he was embalmed, the Vatican said he was prepared. Do we know what that means?
ALLEN: No, we don't. Unfortunately, we're in a period where we don't have too much access to the inner circle of Vatican officials who are making those decisions. That's one of the questions you would like to have an answer to. We know in the past there has been some unorthodox embalming techniques that have been used, with popes bodies, but what happened this time we don't know. What we do know is that apparently that talk that was floating around earlier in the week about, potentially, the pope's heart being removed and buried in his native Poland...
COOPER: Right, because many people in Poland, if they didn't want the body there, they at least wanted his heart to be taken to Poland.
ALLEN: That, apparently, is not going to happen. But, something else may happen, which is the mayor of the pope's own hometown, a little town outside of Krakow called Wadowice, is on her way to Rome right now with a bag of soil from Wadowice, which she is hoping will be put in the pope's grave. At least in some way he will be returning to Polish soil.
COOPER: I understand, though, that there are many requests, though, of people wanting to put things in the pope's grave. There are some coins that are going to be...
ALLEN: Well, that's not a request. That's part of the scripted Vatican ritual. What will happen is, in that casket, and remember, he's in a casket of cypress, then lead -- three caskets -- and then an open casket. But, in that casket, a veil, a silver veil, will be placed on his face, a parchment, listing the days of his life, coins struck for each year of his reign in a little bag will be placed. And, in addition, that fisherman's ring which is a symbol of his office, which of course, was smashed when he died -- that goes back to the Middle Ages because that ring was used to seal documents and this way no one could put out forged documents -- the remnants of that ring will be gathered up and put in the coffin.
COOPER: In the olden days, people took relics, I mean, they took out the internal organs. They don't do that anymore; they stopped that centuries ago. But do people take locks of hair? Does the Vatican do things like that? ALLEN: My guess is, although they are not going to put out a press release on this, certainly some kind of physical relic of the pope is going to be preserved by members of his intimate household. Because the truth is, I think there's a pretty broad conviction that some day this pope may well be a saint, and of course, in traditional Catholic devotion, you want to have those relics as part of the cult of that saint.
COOPER: Interesting. I talked to one American cardinal who said he would like to see John Paul made a saint. I think we're going to hear a lot about that in the coming days.
ALLEN: Absolutely.
COOPER: John Allen, thanks very much.
ALLEN: You bet.
COOPER: Well, coming up next on 360, a fugitive accused of kidnapping a deputy prison warden's wife for nearly 11 years. One mystery may have been solved but there are a lot of questions that remain. We're going to take a look into it.
Also, tonight, remembering the prince. Prince Rainier, the ruler who brought glamour to Monaco with his marriage to Grace Kelly.
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COOPER: The wife of a deputy prison warden kidnapped nearly 11 years ago. She has been found alive, but a lot of people there don't buy her story she was held against her will by a fugitive. 360 next.
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COOPER: On August 30, 1994, a convicted killer escaped from an Oklahoma prison, but he didn't leave empty-handed. He took the warden's wife with him. The two haven't been seen for nearly 11 years, but that all changed this week. CNN's Ed Lavendera reports on the end of one mystery and the start of another.
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RANDOLPH DIAL, CAPTURED KILLER: Progression of events. Houston...
ED LAVANDERA, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Randolph Dial's story reads more like outlandish fiction than real life. He was a chicken killing farmer on the run, with self proclaimed mob connections, and a flare for painting and sculpting in his spare time. After his headline grabbing arrest, it's clear the man likes to put on a show.
DIAL: Well, boys and girls. It's Howdy Doody time.
LAVANDERA: Randolph Dial first made headlines when he escaped from this Oklahoma prison 10 years ago. He says he forced the deputy warden's wife, Bobbi Parker, into a car to escape.
DIAL: I was armed only with a knife against her carotid artery in her leg.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So...
DIAL: Get's your attention.
LAVANDERA: Dial was a prison trustee which means he had more freedom than most convicts. He convinced prison authorities to let him start an inmate pottery program. That's how he met Bobbi Parker who helped out with the class.
DIAL: I had worked on her for about a year trying to get her mind right. And I convinced her that the friend was the enemy and the enemy was the friend
LAVANDERA: Nearly 11 years ago they disappeared. Her husband and two daughters feared she'd been killed, but the bad news never came. Then Monday afternoon a tip was phoned in to the TV show "America's Most Wanted." Bobbi Parker was mowing the grass field, Dial was watching golf and cooking meat patties in their trailer when the past came knocking on the door.
CAPT. MIKE TOLLETT, SHELBY CO. SHERIFF'S DEPT.: Went in the front door and he was standing in the living room. And he was caught completely by surprised, had no idea that we were coming.
LAVANDERA: No one around Camp Dye (ph), Texas knew Randolph Dial and Bobbi Parker. To anyone who asked they were Richard and Samantha Deal (ph), a couple raising chickens and living a quiet life in his trailer.
SHERIFF NEWTON JONES, SHELBY COUNTY: He kept real low keyed and stayed out of sight. And he didn't drive. He didn't have a driver's license. He didn't have a Social Security number. He didn't do anything to bring any attention to himself.
LAVANDERA (on camera): This is a great place to hide. The nearest main road is six miles down this dirt path. Apparently Randolph Dial was happy spending his days out here. He told authorities that in the five years he lived here, he only went into town a couple of times, once to go to the grocery store, once to go to the library.
(voice-over): But Bobbi Parker was often seen in town coming to the Big M Market to cash checks and buy groceries.
PATTI HALL, BIG M MARKET: Real friendly, real polite. Seemed happy to me.
TAMMY BROWN, BIG M MARKET: I don't buy her story at all. How could she be held hostage for (UNINTELLIGIBLE). If you're able to come and get gas, why didn't you just drive off.
LAVANDERA: Mrs. Parker and her family are back together, but they're not talking about what happened. Dial says he brainwashed Mrs. Parker into thinking that if he ever tried to get away he'd kill her daughters.
DIAL: She's a very special person and very easy to like. And when you've done nine years without any human contact of any kind, not even a pat on the shoulder, any kind of kindness is warmly received.
LAVANDERA: There aren't too many people who believe this story, but Chief Deputy Kent Shaffer who spent eight hours interviewing Dial.
KENT SHAFFER, SHELBY CO. SHERIFF'S DEPT.: It would just seem like if it was him, his duty was to get out of prison after being there one day. It would seem like to me her job would be to escape after one day.
LAVANDERA: The story of Randolph Dial and Bobbi Parker isn't over yet. What's unfolded in the last few days has added new twists to a bizarre tale.
Ed Lavandera, CNN, Shelby County, Texas.
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COOPER: Strange story, we're tracking several other stories tonight. For the latest let's go to Headline News Erica Hill, at about a quarter to the hour.
HILL: Hey, Anderson, good to see you again. Iraq has a new president. If that's not a headline that will grab you I don't know what will. The Iraqi Parliament elected Kurdish leader, Jalal Talabani president today. Former dictator Saddam Hussein watched a videotape of the assembly from his cell. A three-day holiday has been declared in the Kurdish region in northern Iraq where people are understandably celebrating in the streets. Tomorrow the assembly is expected to name a new prime minister, and will then choose a cabinet and begin drafting a constitution.
White supremacist Matthew Hale will spend 40 years in prison for trying to have a federal judge killed. Hale was convicted of soliciting an FBI undercover agent to kill Joan Lefkow. She's the same judge whose husband and mother was killed five weeks ago, by a man authorities say had no connection to Hale. Prosecutor say Hale was angry Lefkow forced his white supremacist group to stop using the name the World Church of the Creator because it was trademarked by someone else.
And the registered sex offender charged with sexually assaulting and killing a 9-year-old Florida girl has pleaded not guilty. Still authorities say John Couey did confess to killing Jessica Lunsford. Prosecutors say they plan to seek the death penalty.
And that's a quick look at the top stories from Headline News.
Anderson, back to you in Roma (ph), as you say.
COOPER: Arrivedeci. All right, thanks very much, Erica. See you again in about 30 minutes.
Vatican City isn't the only tiny European nation mourning a long- time ruler. Monaco is grieving after the death of Prince Rainier. We'll bring the latest on that story.
Plus, here in St. Peter's Square, long lines around the clock waiting for hours to say good-bye. They've just shut the doors. They say they're going to open them ASAP, not sure how long that's going to be though. My "Reporters Notebook" inside the crowd, what it feels like, what it looks like to be in -- in all that -- in all that humanity. Be right back.
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COOPER: That is the royal family of Monaco attending Mass for Prince Rainier, Europe's longest reigning Monarch died this morning at 81 years of age. After the Vatican, Monaco is the smallest country in the world. It has Monte-Carlo and the Grand Prix, and for many years it was home to one of the most romantic love stories ever told.
CNN's Rudi Bakhtiar has more on the prince and his Hollywood princess, Grace Kelly.
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RUDI BAKHTIAR, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Prince Rainier's story reads like the fairy tale on the French Rivera, without a storybook ending. The heir to the Grimaldi thrown at 25, Rainier would preserve Monaco as a tax haven, build up its casinos and hotels, and transform it into a play ground for the bold, beautiful and loaded.
But it was a Philadelphia girl who put Rainier in the spotlight. He met Grace Kelly in Cannes in 1955. She was promoting the Hitchcock movie, "To Catch a Thief."
They wed in 1956. She looking every bit the princess in her movie studio gown in the televised extraveganza.
Grace bore Renier three children, Prince Albert shared childhood memories with CNN's Larry King.
PRINCE ALBERT, MONACO: She was strict when she had to be. Hopefully it wasn't too often. But she really gave us a lot of her love and her care. And I think we had such a wonderful childhood because of that.
BAKHTIAR: Publicly the royals attended glittering parties, privately roomers persisted of extra marital affairs on both sides. In 1982, their story ended.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Monaco in Southern France are in shock after the surprise announcement of the death of Princess Grace.
BAKHTIAR: Princess Grace's Rover plunging down a Mediterranean cliff. Only Princess Stephanie was with her at the time. And for years from the palace, denials that Stephanie was driving.
PRINCE ALBERT: It came from different reports saying that she came out of the car on the driver's side. But that's because the car was on that other side. So that was the only way out of there.
BAKHTIAR: Prince Rainier cried openly at Grace's funeral. And Princess Caroline became Monaco's first lady.
48 and remarried now, some say it was losing her second husband in the boating accident that caused Caroline to lose her hair. The youngest Princess Stephanie is 40. Her bad luck, bad husbands, including bodyguard Daniel Decruet photographed cavorting with Miss Nude Belgium.
Prince Albert, at 47, known for liking supermodels and still a bachelor. The fact he never married prompted Rainier to amend Monaco's constitution so his daughter's children could be in the line of succession.
But in this land of great wealth and heartbreak, what awaits his highness and his kingdom.
CHARLES MOSLEY, EDITOR & CHIEF, DEBRETTS: Monaco was once described by Noel Cowart (ph) as a sunny place for shady people. He may have stored up trouble for his successor.
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BAKHTIAR: Now Prince Albert has already taken over his father's royal duties after a commission decided just last week that the critically ill Rainier could no longer rule.
As for the funeral, well, it is scheduled for April 15 at the 19th Century Monaco Cathedral where he and Princess Grace were wed many years ago. And where she is buried now, he will be laid to rest next to her.
Also a little side note here, in accordance with tradition, Monaco's national date changes with Rainier's death. It moves from November 19, the day of Saint Rainier of Pisa to November 15, which is Saint Albert's day -- Anderson.
COOPER: Where do you find this stuff out, Rudi?
BAKHTIAR: I can tell you Anderson, but -- then I'd have to -- bring you back from Rome.
COOPER: Say no more. Ba-dump-ba. Thanks very much, Rudi. Appreciate it.
Coming up next on this special edition of 360, my "Reporter's Notebook" on what it is like being inside the crowds of hundreds of thousands of people as far as the eye can see. It's an interesting experience. I can tell you. Standing in line for hours, some as long as 12 hours here in St. Peter's Square to say one last good-bye to Pope John Paul II.
That's a live shot, 1:53 a.m. And that crowd is going to be waiting for at least ten more hours. Be right back.
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COOPER: The faces of devotion.
On a story like this we like to try to bring you all the angles. And a story this big, that means trying to get cameras in as many different places as possible to try to get our arms around this story.
Last night I spent some time in the crowd, this long crowd that is as far as the eye can see waiting on line. I brought a home video camera with me. And just filed this report from inside the crowd. Just to give you a tense of what it feels like. What it looks like standing in the midst of all those people.
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COOPER (voice-over): In the dead of night they wait on a line that seems to have no end. Many will wait six hours or more. The police hold their lines so no one breaks through.
(on camera): This group has been waiting for about 20 minutes in this one spot. The police are about to let them go through. And they will run all the way over to that spot. Here they go.
Then once the group gets to the barricades they have to stop again. You are sort of just stuck here. You can tell it's pretty close quarters. Everyone stuck right next to each other.
You see scenes like this a lot. People are standing around so long, some of them actually pass out because either from the pressure of the crowd or lack of food or water, because they have been standing in line so long.
The paramedics are on the scene here.
The crowd parts -- the crowds calls over the medical technicians to come. And now they are going to bring this person out.
(voice-over): Children sit exhausted, so do adults. Those stuck standing, watch what is happening inside.
Everywhere there is music, giant speakers on every block. Finally, after hours of waiting, the crowds enter St. Peter's Square. The crowds finally arrive here at the heart of St. Peter's Square within sight of St. Peter's Basilica. These people know that soon they will be able to say good-bye one last time to Pope John Paul II.
Tom Moscher and Ben Keeley are Catholic priests from Vermont. They feel lucky to be here.
REV. BEN KEELEY, FROM VERMONT: The whole mass of humanity is swarming around this place. For a breif moment, the whole world is focusing on Rome. And we could be here in the -- we have cameras and we have microphones, but we could be in the 14th Century.
REV. TOME MOSCHER, FROM VERMONT: It's timeless. Absolutely timeless.
COOPER: Timeless and eternal. In the dead of night on this line, they stand together. In the dead of night on this line, no rich, no poor, no young, no old. In the dead of night, on this line, there is only faith.
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COOPER: Well that's it for 360 from Vatican City. I'm Anderson Cooper. CNN's primetime coverage continues now with PAULA ZAHN.
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