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Candidates on the Attack; Tropical Storm Edouard; Sharks under Attack; Fake Rockefeller Arrested; Severed Feet Mystery
Aired August 04, 2008 - 23:00 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
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SEN. BARACK OBAMA, (D) PRESUMPTIVE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: He said and I quote, "Our dangerous dependence on foreign oil has been 30 years in the making and was caused by the failures of politicians in Washington to think long-term about the future of the country. Now, what Senator McCain neglected to mention was during those 30 years he was in Washington for 26 of them.
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ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: Senator Obama today in Lansing, Michigan, unveiling his plan to end American dependence on foreign oil within a decade. He says, "Bending a little on dipping into the strategic petroleum reserve to bring down short-term prices and signaling compromise on drilling offshore." A move his critics call a flip-flop, Senator McCain today disagreeing sharply with Obama.
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SEN. JOHN MCCAIN, (R) PRESUMPTIVE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: These misguided policies would result in higher energy costs to American families and businesses and increased dependence on foreign oil. We're not going to achieve energy independence by inflating our tires.
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COOPER: That last remark a reference to what Obama told a woman last week when asked what steps she could take now to save fuel. It was that kind of day. John McCain throwing punches Barack Obama after a week of taking a beating on Tuesday, and in the polls, trying to hit back.
The "Raw Politics" tonight from CNN's Ed Henry.
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ED HENRY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: To the relief of some Republicans, John McCain is finally driving a consistent message by getting tough with Barack Obama.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He's the biggest celebrity in the world. But is he ready to lead?
HENRY: But other political heavyweights are slamming the new strategy with McCain's former strategist Mike Murphy on NBC calling the Britney Spears ad dumb and clumsy at a time when the political climate is awful for Republicans.
MIKE MURPHY, STRATEGIST, MCCAIN 2000 CAMPAIGN: Luckily for the party, McCain is a different kind of Republican. So everything in the campaign ought to build toward that case. When you get off into small juvenile stuff about Britney Spears, you distract from it.
HENRY: As for a second ad claiming Obama has anointed himself --
OBAMA: This is the moment when the rise of the oceans began to fall. And our planet began to heal.
CHARLESTON HESTON, ACTOR: Behold his mighty hand.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Barack Obama may be the one, but is he ready to lead?
HENRY: AC 360 contributor David Gergen charged on ABC the ad is using code words to suggest Obama is out of the main stream.
DAVID GERGEN, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: There are certain kinds of signals. As a native of the south, I can tell you when you see this Charleston Heston ad, the one, that's code for, "He's uppity. He ought to stay in his place."
HENRY: The McCain camp vehemently denies that the ads are sending any signals other than this - they believe Obama is not ready to run the country.
And with CNN's latest National Poll of Polls showing Obama with just a three-point lead over McCain, Republican strategists think the negative ads are working.
JOHN FEEHERY, REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST: The new strategy is definitely having an impact of taking it to Barack Obama, knocking him off his stride.
HENRY: But McCain advisers privately say they realize there's a danger in the candidate coming off as too negative. That's why one of McCain's next moves is to try to pivot back to talking about a positive agenda.
FEEHERY: You've had a sense where he was good cop, now he's been bad cop. He's going to go back to good cop.
HENRY: The easiest way for McCain to do that will be to pick up bad cop in the form of a running mate who is an attack dog. But Obama will soon be bringing in a vice-presidential nominee of his own and he's already going on the attack himself.
OBAMA: When Senator McCain talks about the failure of politicians in Washington to do anything about the energy crisis, it's important to remember that he's been part of that failure.
HENRY: Obama is determined to show that, unlike John Kerry in 2004, he's ready to punch back.
Ed Henry, CNN, Washington.
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COOPER: We're going to have more from the candidates in-depth tonight, part of our commitment to giving you the raw facts. Along with the "Raw Politics" so you can make up your own mind who is right.
First though, a "Strategy Session" with CNN political analysts Carl Bernstein and Roland Martin along with CNN's senior political contributor and GOP strategist Ed Rollins.
Ed, with these attacks on Obama, has McCain found his voice I mean is it working for McCain?
ED ROLLINS, CNN SENIOR CONTRIBUTOR: For 48 hours it worked.
I mean, I think the critical thing here it wasn't his campaign as much as it was the national media that carried this campaign. NBC for three nights in a row led the news with this ad. That would have cost you $40 million to have that kind of advertising.
COOPER: So those ads work?
ROLLINS: They worked because they were carried. If they were just on Facebook or something they wouldn't have worked.
So the long, sustained campaign of whether he's going to beat him because he's an elitist or not I don't think so. But I think it did get McCain back on an aggressive footing and I think to a certain extent it altered the momentum that was certainly going the other way.
COOPER: Carl, does Obama need to be more aggressive in countering these? Or on attacking --
CARL BERNSTEIN, JOURNALIST AND AUTHOR: I call it very disciplined -- I called a really major Republican tonight and asked him is this hurting Obama? He said, look, and I quote, "McCain decided the only way he has a shot is to go negative."
And I think John has turned increasingly nasty to the point he's not himself. He's always been a happy warrior and I think right now either his staff or he is presenting himself as angry, mad, upset, annoyed and trying to provoke Obama. Obama's not going to take the bait.
But the real thing is there's a long-term danger as the correspondent in this piece said. And that is that, look, this campaign ultimately is going to turn on character and on substance. And in the year 2000, when he ran for president, you know, John McCain had the character issue nailed. It's fallen apart on him this time with this kind of stuff.
COOPER: Roland, Barack Obama you can say he flip-flopped, you can say he pivoted on the issue of offshore drilling. Has he taken that issue away from John McCain successfully or does he get labeled a flip-flopper? ROLAND MARTIN, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST: Not necessarily. First of all, John McCain changed his position and he went completely for offshore oil drilling. What Obama is saying is that I'm looking for a compromise in the sense that they're able to advance the energy policy, I will accept this.
The only problem with that is that when you're running for your side, it's all about being definitive. I'm for, I'm against. When you offer a compromise before you even get to the White House, I mean there's sort of an issue there. You very rarely hear candidates talk about compromising when they're running. It's always I'm standing on either side of the issue. And so that's what the point is.
But again, the question is will both of this people truly call for Congress to come back? You keep hearing them say that, but they really don't want it to happen. They want this political football to be in play when it comes to the energy policy.
COOPER: Ed, do you buy that Obama is just pivoting or is this a flip-flop?
ROLLINS: I don't think it's a flip-flop. I think at the end of the day, these are complicated issues and if they're going to basically do as they say they are; have a comprehensive energy plan, or comprehensive war plan, they have to have bipartisan support.
They're now down to fighting for the independents. Each side has got their Democrats or the Republicans and there's this large segment in the middle that is getting larger and larger and has not yet made up its mind and that's the battle field for now until election.
BERNSTEIN: Energy is becoming a huge issue.
And the situation now with the $500 billion deficit is very different than when they enunciated their positions in the first place. And I think each of them, on one hand is trying to make an honest attempt to deal with the reality and not be backed into a corner.
But what's underlying all this that's so important is that McCain has really gone negative very early.
MARTIN: Yes, but you know if you're McCain, I mean you had to create some kind of traction. That's why you go negative.
BERNSTEIN: But it's so early.
MARTIN: I understand that. But I think that -- but from Obama's standpoint, I think one of the things that he should do because John McCain has been setting up he's too naive, he's too young, he's inexperienced.
Obama should be saying you know what? I'm going to let you sit here and spend your time dealing with Paris and Britney while I focus on being a leader for the rest of the country. He should be invoking, when the Bush administration, Rumsfeld and others are criticizing the French --
COOPER: You're saying he should be above the fray?
BERNSTEIN: That's what he has done the whole time.
MARTIN: Right, above the fray is different from just saying, "You know what, I'm not going to waste my time with childish behavior."
ROLLINS: The best thing both of them have going is, the Olympics are coming. It's going to be a great distraction for the country. And then we get to the conventions and then we start the fall campaign which is a seven week campaign.
Both of them need cooling off period and the American public is tuned out on this campaign I think, and they'll be tuned back in again. But I think to the summer their tuned off and they should be.
COOPER: Carl Bernstein, Ed Rollins, Roland Martin, we're going to have more with you guys just in a moment.
Up next, the search for a vice president with the race still tight in the polls, is Hillary Clinton now a real possibility for Barack Obama? We'll talk about that.
Also talk about it online. And you can go to our blog where the conversation is underway. I'll be joining in shortly. The address there is ac360.com.
Later on the program, Bill Clinton speaking out, regrets, yes he says, racism no. The Clinton speaks out for the first time about his role in the rough and tumbled primary campaign.
Also tonight, where is Edouard heading? It's growing stronger, we know that. It's getting closer to the Gulf Coast, we know that. Will it be a hurricane and will it take a turn at the last minute? We'll talk to Chad Myers.
Plus, the dramatic end for the search for Clark Rockefeller; that guy and his young daughter. But who is this guy really? He has multiple aliases. Police are still searching for answers, though they found that little girl. "Crime and Punishment" tonight on "360."
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COOPER: Well, the veepstakes and the former President Bill Clinton speaking out. Speculation rising tonight about Barack Obama and John McCain's running mate picks. Senator Obama planning to be in Elkhart, Indiana on Wednesday; Indiana Senator Evan Bayh will be there. This created a lot of buzz and speculation. But no sign Obama is going to be announcing anything about his VP pick then.
Same buzz today started humming around Virginia Congressman Eric Cantor after word got out that the McCain vetters asked him for personal documents. That's just the latest buzz, the constant buzz concerns of course, Hillary Clinton. Continuing our "Strategy Session" Clinton biographer Carl Bernstein along with Roland Martina and Ed Rollins.
Ed, do you think Eric Cantor, first of all, is a serious competitor?
ROLLINS: That's computer dating done, you know putting someone who's Jew and someone who's from Virginia, a young Congressman, is conservative, and out pops a guy that nobody knows outside the Congress and outside his district. It would be a total waste. And he's a very nice man and a future leader in Congress, but he would absolutely blow up in McCain's face.
COOPER: Carl, Barack Obama not hugely ahead in this poll of polls that we're looking at; a lot of Democrats getting concerned about that. Does this make Hillary Clinton more viable as a VP pick?
BERNSTEIN: Yes, it's very, very early, though. But I'm going out on a limb here and say, look, if Barack Obama wants to win the election with little risk, Hillary Clinton is probably the way to go.
She brings in Catholics. She brings in working class people. She brings in the states that are in play. I think she wins in the election unless it's really blown by, you know, by self-destruction.
At the same time, it's a lot of baggage and you're going to hear the baggage when you go to the segment on Bill.
COOPER: And does that baggage, Roland, alienate the Independents that they're trying to get?
MARTIN: Absolutely. Also do the math. George W. Bush won in 2004 with 65 million votes. Take Obama's 18, take Hillary Clinton's 18, well, you have 36. They're still 29 million short.
The bottom line is you need those Independent voters. You do have the baggage but also Clinton ran -- her campaign was leaking left and right.
Obama ran a very tight ship. The Obama campaign does not want to have to deal with having to negotiate every single move with Hillary Clinton. Theirs is they top-down operation. He's the nominee, everybody else is underneath him.
And also Bill Clinton comes into play.
Look, I talked to high ranking Obama sources. It's very simple. She's not going to be the nominee. All the talk about, well, she might be there, what the polls say. It is not going to happen.
Now, I don't know how more definitive --
COOPER: Ed, do you buy that?
ROLLINS: Ronald Reagan flew to Detroit in 1980 and the person he did not want on the ticket was George Bush. Three days later George Bush was on his ticket.
I think I agree with Carl. I think Hillary would be the strongest candidate on paper. I think you have to have a real sit down and make sure that she cooperates, understands she's not number one, equally as important Bill is not number one.
BERNSTEIN: One point, Obama is not going to do this unless he has to. But if he has to, he'll do it. And remember Jack Kennedy picking LBJ.
MARTIN: He doesn't have to, Carl.
BERNSTEIN: Well, we don't know that yet. We'll see what the situation -- he's waiting to see what the situation is going into that convention.
COOPER: What would Kennedy picking LBJ tell you?
BERNSTEIN: It tells you that only the candidate himself knew who he was going to pick, only his brother knew and his brother was against LBJ.
And in this case, I've talked to the same Obama people who say it's not going to happen, but only Obama and Michelle Obama know.
COOPER: I want to play some of what Bill Clinton said in an interview with ABC's "Good Morning America;" he was asked if he had any regrets. Here's what he said.
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KATE SNOW, ABC REPORTER: Do you personally have any regrets about what you did campaigning for your wife?
BILL CLINTON, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: But yes, but not the ones you're saying and it would be counterproductive for me to talk about it.
There are things that I wish I had urged her to do, things I wish I had said, things I wish I hadn't said. But I am not a racist. I never made a racist comment and I didn't attack him personally.
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COOPER: Roland, interesting kind of that he went there?
MARTIN: Yes, because first of all he's the prodigal son of the black community now. The black community was -- he was comfortable in the black community. He can't go there now. OK he can't. Now --
COOPER: Really?
MARTIN: He absolutely can't. When Bill Clinton goes to black churches now, trust me, its very keep-it applause where it used to be thunderous applause. This is the other reason why I think Hillary Clinton will not be the nominee, primarily because of what you just saw, Bill Clinton can take the story line tomorrow. The conversation around the water coolers will be about that particular interview.
And so remember what happened in 2000 with Al Gore. Nominated at the convention; Bill Clinton goes off talking at a form with a pastor. That becomes the story line in the week of the convention. He takes oxygen out of the race.
ROLLINS: Biggest regret he should have had, he should have gone back to Oxford and got his degree that he didn't finish. And let her run her own campaign and he should have been a lot better off.
BERNSTEIN: Well, Roland is right that this is the big problem. One, the elephant in this campaign is race, both from the point of view of the Republicans --
MARTIN: Absolutely.
BERNSTEIN: And it was the elephant in the race when Hillary Clinton was running, but Bill Clinton says one thing that's really true, he is not a racist.
MARTIN: But that wasn't even the question.
BERNSTEIN: No, I understand that. I think what has happened in this election here is Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton expected that she was going to be the nominee and they both dreamed of a day when a black American could be president of the United States. They just never thought it was going to happen on their watch.
And it just confounded them and now it's confounded the Republicans.
MARTIN: Carl, you know what -- and I understand where they come from and also Hillary Clinton supporters. But here's the reality.
But she began with zero delegates, he began with zero delegates. You run the race. Whoever wins wins. That's what you have to deal with.
BERNSTEIN: He beat her good.
COOPER: He's not over the primaries.
MARTIN: Oh he's not over the primaries.
ROLLINS: This is about as insecure a man as you'll ever find who has ever been president of the United States. And he basically wants to be loved by everybody and he now feels that this is as much of a rejection of him as it is of her.
And I think this is a group that was very important to him. And I think that he feels worse about that than anything else. He was the guy who thought he was the first black president. Obviously that was a community that was very supportive of him.
MARTIN: An answer real quickly. The reality is the people were driving this. I remember when that happened in South Carolina, the Obama campaign didn't want to touch it. Trust me.
I was getting e-mails from folks saying why aren't you saying something? It was African-Americans who were watching this campaign, who were pressuring commentators and web sites saying, say something about this.
So when Bill Clinton, when he somehow thinks that well that it was the Obama campaign that drove this. No, it was regular everyday African-Americans who were offended that when he, under the Monica Lewinsky scandal, his poll numbers were driven up and stayed there because black voters had his back and they said he turned his back on them.
If he wants -- he needs to accept that as reality.
BERNSTEIN: He's self-destructive, that's all there is to it.
MARTIN: He needs to accept that.
COOPER: We're going to have more on the Bill Clinton interview coming up. Carl Bernstein thanks very much, Ed Rollins and Roland Martin as well.
BERNSTEIN: Thank you.
MARTIN: Thank you.
COOPER: We got a great in-depth look at the vice presidential contenders on our web site; an interactive primer from CNN Politics with pros and cons of each candidate. Find the link at our web site, ac360.com.
Former President Clinton is generating some buzz of his own tonight. We'll talk a little bit about it. We'll have more of what he said on the record about his regrets over the primaries his wife lost and we'll have more of why he says he's not a racist. That's just ahead.
Plus, tropical storm Edouard is picking up speed, bearing down on Louisiana and Texas. Where and when will it come ashore? We're going to have the latest forecast from Chad Myers.
Plus, a new and grisly clue, and a stomach turning mystery; another human foot washes ashore. Just south of the U.S.-Canada border. Is it connected to five other feet found on Canada's beaches? A bizarre story coming up on "360."
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KAREN MCGINNIS, CNN METEOROLOGIST: And hello, everyone, I'm CNN meteorologist Karen McGinnis. We've got the very latest from The National Hurricane Center regarding our tropical storm Edouard. I want to give you the very latest and then we'll tell you what we anticipate as we go into the next 12 hours or so. I'll show you the latest information that we do have.
All right, we are watching the system make its way toward the west-northwest. As it does, it is slowed down in a little bit in its forward speed, now moving at about 8 miles an hour.
Let's go ahead and show you some of the coordinates associated with Edouard. And right now the winds associated with it at 60 miles an hour. And we do see some gusts up around 70 miles an hour as well.
According to The National Hurricane Center, most of the energy associated with this, most of the convection that we're seeing in the way of strong storms, gusty winds and heavy surf are along the northern and the eastern edge of Edouard.
As it continues to make its motion towards the west-northwest, what we're anticipating are some of those bands moving in along coastal sections of Louisiana. There's going to be a very heavy surf.
And as a result, we could see those tides, which are high around the Lake Charles area, also right around Vermillion Bay, coming around 6:30 to 7:30 in the morning.
Now, what we do anticipate is between 5 and 10 inches of rainfall in its wake and seas or a storm surge up to five feet above normal.
We'll keep you updated. Anderson Cooper continues right now.
COOPER: Earlier we told you about the nasty sparring today, between Barack Obama and John McCain over energy; definitely the top story on the trail today.
And now we want to bring you some more of what the candidates said in their own words. Its part of our commitment to you to bring you the raw facts unfiltered from the campaign trail so you can make up your own mind about who's right. You don't need to see the commentators telling you.
CNN's Jessica Yellin joins me now.
Jessica, McCain found his voice some would say on this issue weeks ago. Today Barack Obama tried to take the lead away from him. How did it go?
JESSICA YELLIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, for Barack Obama it went well. He's on the offensive today. He made the point that John McCain is in the pocket of big oil and he also says that despite all his years in Washington, John McCain has a do-nothing record on energy reform.
In addition to all this, Anderson, Obama outlined an aggressive new plan to reduce our use of foreign oil. Let's listen to him.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) OBAMA: You won't hear me say this too often, but I could not agree more with the explanation that Senator McCain offered a few weeks ago. He said, and I quote, "Our dangerous dependence on foreign oil has been 30 years in the making and was caused by the failures of politicians in Washington to think long-term about the future of the country."
Now, what Senator McCain neglected to mention was during those 30 years, he was in Washington for 26 of them. And in all that time, he did little to reduce our dependence on foreign oil.
If I am president, I will immediately direct the full resources of the federal government and the full energy of the private sector, working with state and local governments, to achieve a single overarching goal.
In ten years, we will eliminate the need for oil from the entire Middle East and Venezuela, in ten years' time. Ten years is how long it's going to take.
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YELLIN: And how does Obama plan to get there? Well, he says he'll offer economic incentives like tax rebates to increase production of hybrids, to reduce the amount of electricity we use and to encourage businesses to go to renewable energy. Anderson, he modestly calls this plan ambitious.
COOPER: How about John McCain? I mean he continued the attack today. How is he responding to it all?
YELLIN: Well, McCain keeps renewing his call for more offshore drilling. As you discussed with the panel, that's widely popular with the voters. So he's continuing to hammer away on that theme saying Obama is out of touch because he's not getting behind this aggressively.
Here's McCain.
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MCCAIN: We need to offshore drill for oil and natural gas. We need to drill here and we need to drill now. And anybody who says that we can achieve energy independence without using and increasing these existing energy resources either doesn't have the experience to understand the challenge we face or isn't giving the American people some straight talk.
Unfortunately, Senator Obama continues to oppose offshore drilling. He continues to oppose the use of nuclear power. These misguided policies would result in higher energy costs to American families and businesses and increased dependence on foreign oil.
We're not going to achieve energy independence by inflating our tires. I'm going to lead our nation to energy independence and I'm going to do it with a realistic and comprehensive, all of the above approach that uses every resource available to finally solve this crisis.
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YELLIN: Now, in fact Anderson, Obama has said that he will support a compromise that includes offshore drilling as long as it's part of a larger energy plan.
As a result, McCain's aides are accusing Obama of flip-flopping on offshore drilling. And in the meantime as you heard the candidate himself continues to say, Obama opposes offshore drilling. So the McCain camp is sort of having it both ways on this issue and so far it all seems to be working for him.
COOPER: All right, Jessica Yellin, thanks.
Still ahead tonight, Bill Clinton's regrets. What he is saying now about attacking Obama and why he says he's not a racist. Why he brought that up even.
Plus tropical storm Edouard gaining strength, expected to be a hurricane when it hits Texas tomorrow. Chad Myers has the latest on its path. And some severe weather hitting Chicago tonight.
Up next, sharks under attack, we take you along on our "Planet in Peril" investigation when "360" continues.
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COOPER: That's a real great white shark just beyond the bars. We were off the coast of South Africa cage-diving for our "Planet in Peril" investigation all last week.
Sharks are the most feared predators in the ocean, but they're also endangered. As many as 100 million are killed for food every year. As you'll see they are amazing animals under an extraordinary threat.
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COOPER: Early each morning, Alison Kock a marine biologist heads to the seas around Cape Town, hoping to uncover some of the mysteries surrounding great white sharks, the most feared predators of the sea.
There's still a lot about sharks which we don't know, right?
ALISON KOCK, MARINE BIOLOGIST: There's so much we don't know. And every day I spend out here I learn something new. And that's what really keeps it interesting.
COOPER: She heads to a small island, home to thousands of seals. The seals attract great white sharks.
Early in the morning it's the riskiest time for the seals. It's light enough for the sharks to be able to see the shadow of the seals moving but it's still dark so the seals can't actually see the sharks.
Alison turns off the motor and within minutes, we witness a remarkable spectacle.
KOCK: There's seals coming in over there.
COOPER: Great whites leaping from the sea to catch the panicked seals. The water turns red with blood. Alison records each kill, noting the time, the location and as much about the shark as she can observe. Birds quickly move in eating what the sharks leave behind.
While a shark circled our boat, a seal approaches. The shark makes its move, but the seal escapes and uses the boat as protection, hiding in its shadow to confuse the shark.
There's a nine-foot shark circling the boat and for some reason I'm the only one that seems concerned.
This seal is lucky, the shark passes underneath the boat several times and then leaves. Great whites are rarely seen for very long. That's why so little is known about them and why their so feared.
Alison hopes to change people's understanding of sharks. She's tagging great whites with darts attached to transmitters. They can then track the sharks' movements around these waters for months.
KOCK: I just aim it at the base of the dorsal fin. And that's what its like.
COOPER: She uses a tuna head as bait to get sharks close to the boat.
There are three sharks right now competing for this bait. But before Alison and her team can tag the shark, they have to get a clear photograph of its dorsal fin. That way they can identify it in the future. But to get a picture of the dorsal fin the shark has to actually to come out of the water.
It's a stunning sight to see, these massive muscular great whites lunging out of the water for the bait. Finally, after nearly a dozen sharks, they get a clear photo. Now they need to lure the shark into exactly the right position so the transmitter can be shot into the base of the dorsal fin where it won't do any permanent damage. Luckily, the shark lines up perfectly.
ALISON: Yes, here we go. Keep it there, keep it there. Tagged. There we go.
COOPER: Working for an organization called "Save our Seas," Alison has tagged more than 70 great whites in the last five years and identified more than 300 individuals.
In terms of today, what you saw out there today, how was today?
KOCK: It was incredible. It was really incredible.
COOPER: Today was a good day?
KOCK: Yes it was a brilliant day. COOPER: She's still a long way from uncovering much of the mysteries surrounding great whites, how they mate, where they give birth. But she hopes to learn as much as she can and show people that great whites are more than just killing machines. They're a unique species, vital to the ocean's ecosystem, in need of understanding and protection.
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COOPER: A reminder, don't miss our second installment of "Planet in Peril: Battle Lines" airing in December. We'll be right back.
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COOPER: Bill Clinton finally speaking out, the first time since the tough primary campaign ended. We know he's talked to Barack Obama once on the phone but so far he's not done any campaigning for him.
"Up Close," tonight here's "360's" Tom Foreman.
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TOM FOREMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The former president was in Africa talking up health care as he has before for his charitable foundation. But when ABC News asked if he has regrets about his performance in his wife's campaign against Obama, he did not sound charitable.
CLINTON: There are things that I wish I had urged her to do, things I wish I had said, and things I wish I hadn't said. But I am not a racist and I never made a racist comment and I didn't attack him personally.
He hit her hard a couple times and they hit us a few times and weeks before she ever responded in kind. The only thing I ever got mad about was people in your line of work pretended that she had somehow started the negative stuff.
FOREMAN: Mr. Clinton took particular exception to media coverage of his wife and his work on her behalf.
CLINTON: I got bad press. Why? Because I told the truth, that there was a different standard applied to the finest candidate I ever support.
Now, I would be glad as soon as this election is over in January to have this conversation with you and everybody else. I have very strong feelings about it.
FOREMAN: Mr. Clinton has said for weeks that he fully supports Senator Obama now. But it is still not clear what that means. Not clear how much he will campaign for Obama; when he might speak at the Democratic Convention. Or what role he or his wife would play in an Obama administration. So those close to the Clintons are grumbling.
JOHN HARRIS, THE POLITICO: They feel that Barack Obama should be working harder to help Hillary Clinton retire her debt. They feel he should be looking more closely at Hillary Clinton as a vice- presidential nominee. They feel really he should be paying more respect to both Clintons for the contributions they've made to the Democratic Party.
FOREMAN: Democratic Party leaders continue to say publicly all of this will be smoothed over by convention time. But privately, they are looking at their calendars.
Tom Foreman, CNN, Washington.
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COOPER: Convention is not too far away.
Up next, "Crime and Punishment" the dramatic end to the search for the man claiming to be a Rockefeller and his young daughter.
Also ahead, the mystery of the missing feet; a sixth foot in a sneaker has washed up on a beach. Are they all connected? New details coming up.
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COOPER: Tonight, this man, the so-called phony Rockefeller, is behind bars. His young daughter, the little girl he allegedly kidnapped, is safe and sound. But the search for answers is far from over. Even with the arrest, authorities remained baffled about who the suspect really is.
Erica Hill has tonight's "Crime and Punishment" report.
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ERICA HILL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: An anonymous tip brought the FBI to Baltimore. A cunning sting with help from a local marina manager brought Clark Rockefeller out in the open.
Told his boat was taking on water, Rockefeller left his daughter behind to go check on his sailboat. The FBI arrested him as soon as Rockefeller left the house.
COMMISSIONER EDWARD DAVIS, BOSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT: At this time, Clark Rockefeller is in FBI custody in Baltimore and facing charges which include felony custodial kidnapping, assault and battery and assault and battery with a dangerous weapon. Investigators continue their efforts to determine Clark Rockefeller's true identity.
HILL: In Baltimore, Clark Rockefeller was known as Chip Smith. That's the name he used at the marina where he kept his boat for nine years. And it's the same name he used just a few weeks ago to buy the Baltimore home where he was arrested.
It isn't his only alias. Boston police say he has used at least four other names. But the 48-year-old doesn't seem to have a Social Security card, a birth certificate, or a marriage license even though he and Reigh's mother divorced last December.
Sandra Boss was granted custody of the little girl, in part because of concerns about her ex-husband's past. They now live in London where Sandra Boss works.
Reigh's first supervised visit with her dad was last Sunday in Boston when he allegedly kidnapped her. Sandra Boss issued a video plea, urging her ex-husband to surrender and speaking directly to her daughter.
SANDRA BOSS, CLARK ROCKEFELLER'S EX-WIFE: I love you. I miss you so much and remember you're always a princess.
DEPUTY SUPT. THOMAS LEE, BOSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT: One of the best moments in my police career was getting to personally tell Sandra Boss that we've recovered her daughter.
HILL: Now reunited, Boss and Reigh, whom she calls "Snooks," are said to be overjoyed.
But the questions about Rockefeller are still swirling. Whoever he is, we do know he isn't one of the Rockefellers. The famous family issued a statement denying any connection. But he does seem to have plenty of cash.
Police say he recently withdrew $300,000 to buy gold coins and he bought the $450,000 Baltimore home with cash, leading many to believe he planned to start a new life there. Instead, he's headed back to Boston to face more charges.
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HILL: And Anderson, he's headed to Boston because Rockefeller waived extradition. In fact, we're told he could be headed to Boston as early as tomorrow morning.
COOPER: When he bought the house in Baltimore I guess it was with cash, as Chip Smith, and other alias. Did the realtor think anything of it?
HILL: Not initially. Apparently he just -- he had come up and said he was looking for a two to three-bedroom house for himself and his daughter that they would be relocating from Chile and they apparently -- they being the real estate company -- have said that they allowed him to help to find him temporary housing.
They allowed him to come into the office and use their Internet connection until everything was set. And they didn't really think anything of it until they were watching the news the other morning and they saw pictures of Clark Rockefeller and said that's Chip Smith.
COOPER: All right, fascinating. All right, Erica, thanks.
Next on "360," the mystery of the severed feet deepens today after a sixth foot washes up. The latest on what is truly a bizarre story ahead. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)
COOPER: Tonight, an update on a strange story, a mystery that continues out west centering on severed feet.
As we've been reporting for months, the feet in sneakers keep washing up along the coast. It's happened again. A sixth foot has now appeared and authorities are trying to figure out where the feet are coming from.
360's Randi Kaye has the latest developments.
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RANDI KAYE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Take a good look at this sneaker. Investigators say it still has a foot inside it, one of five feet found on Canadian shores in less than a year.
TERRY SMITH, BRITISH COLUMBIA REGIONAL CORONER: I can certainly tell you that I've never run across something like this.
KAYE: Police say two people spotted the foot in the waters between Vancouver Island and British Colombia's mainland. Like the others, it was still wearing a sneaker. Of the five feet, the first four are right feet. This is the only left one.
It's a mystery that has baffled investigators since the first foot washed ashore in August 2007. Now it's getting international attention. Are they linked?
Recently the Royal Canadian Mounted Police say DNA testing on a right foot discovered on Valdez Island in February, and a left foot discovered in June on Western Island belonged to the same man.
Police are looking through lists of missing people to try and find a match. But how many more feet might be out there? And how did the victims die?
There is no shortage of theories. Some has suggested the feet belong to stowaways on commercial ships. Others think it's the work of a serial killer.
ANNIE LINTEAU, ROYAL CANADIAN MOUNTED POLICE: We are reviewing all missing persons file. We are exploring the possibility that it could be people whom he have drowned. It could be missing fisherman. It could be the remains of people who may have died in a plane crash.
KAYE: Three years ago, a float plane carrying five men crashed into the sea not far from Vancouver. Only one body was recovered. This woman's brother, the pilot was never found.
SALLY FEAST, BROTHER DIED IN PLANE CRASH: 50 yards away is where they boys took off from. And here we are just on the other side of the spit finding a foot.
KAYE: Relative's DNA is being compared to DNA from the feet. Forensic scientist, Larry Kobilinsky, says even after all these years in the water, investigators can still get a good DNA sample from bones.
Do socks and sneakers slow down the decomposition process at all?
LAWRENCE KOBILINSKY, FORENSIC SCIENTIST: Without a doubt, having the severed part of the body, the foot encased in a sneaker is going to protect it from decomposition.
KAYE: The sneakers may explain why feet are the only body part that's turned up. We checked with oceanographers and we're told sneakers are so buoyant they can travel thousands of miles in the water, averaging about 10 miles a day.
Investigators are focusing on the shoes for clues too.
LINTEAU: The make, where the shoe was produced, when and where it was sold is to shed some light on the identity of these people.
KAYE: So far, the feet do not appear to have been severed. No evidence of foul play. All the answers though, will take time. And the investigation has already been hampered by a hoax. Police were alerted to what was thought to be another foot in a black Adidas running shoe.
SANDRA MALONE, RV PARK MANAGER: Scared to think of that happening to a person and their foot is actually sitting here on a beach.
KAYE: This woman says the sneaker was wrapped in seaweed with two bones sticking out of it. It turned out to be an animal paw. Investigators called the prank reprehensible.
So the search for clues continues as police try to pair up the feet and figure out just how many victims they have on their hands.
Randi Kaye, CNN, New York.
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COOPER: Truly a strange story. We're going follow several other stories tonight.
Erica Hill joins us again with the "360's News and Business Bulletin -- Erica.
Anderson, a U.S. military jury at Guantanamo Bay began deliberations today in the case against Osama bin Laden's former driver, Saleem Hamdan. He's charged with conspiracy and material support of terrorism. His defense team said Hamdan was just a driver and had no part in planning attacks.
The price of oil today, falling nearly $4 to settle at just over $120 a barrel; keeping track, that is its lowest level in three months. And the three-week-old Brangelina twins are making their debut in both "Hello" and "People" magazines; exclusive snapshots right in here. They reportedly cost $14 million. All that cash expected to go to the Jolie-Pitt Foundation which helps with humanitarian crisis around the world -- Anderson.
COOPER: Have you seen the pictures?
KAYE: I have.
COOPER: I haven't seen them.
KAYE: It's one good looking family, I got to tell you.
COOPER: Yes.
All right now our "Beat 360" winner. It's our daily challenge to you the viewer; a chance to show up our staffers like coming up with a better caption for the picture we post on our blog everyday.
Barack Obama talking with Senator Carl Levin -- that's the picture -- after giving a speech Levin's home state of Michigan.
Kind of touching fingers there, here's the caption from our staff winner Cate, "Senator Levin shows Obama a variation on the fist bump: the index finger slide."
The viewer winner is Bob from Massillon, Ohio, his caption, "What Senators do best... point fingers!"
KAYE: I like it Bob.
COOPER: I thought it was good.
KAYE: I think it's good stuff.
COOPER: Simple but good. Right there, clear.
Bob, your "Beat 360" t-shirt's on the way, nice job. You can check out all the entries that we received in our blog. You can play along tomorrow by going to the web site at ac360.com.
Up next - more on my great white sharks adventure. As we mentioned earlier they're dying off at an alarming rate but scientists are trying to change that. It's what's "On the Radar" when "360" continues.
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COOPER: "On the Radar" tonight, sharks, swimming with sharks and saving the sharks, a lot of people weighing in on this one.
Daniel writes in, "Humans are the worst thing that has ever happened to this planet."
Pati in Camp Hill, Pennsylvania writes, "Got to tell you, had I been with you on that boat, you would for sure not have been the only one nervous that the shark was so close. Yikes! They are fascinating creatures and I adore them, but more so from a slightly farther distance."
Well, me too, Pati.
Michelle in Lafayette, Indiana says, "I wish I could have gone with you to Cape Town! You are so wonderful at allowing the viewers to transport themselves to another culture, beautiful scenery and to experience incredible journeys with you and the crew! Thank you! Can hardly wait for this year's Planet in Peril."
Thanks a lot Michelle.
Don't forget you can share your thoughts, read the other comments by going to "ac360.com" and hitting the links to the blogs.
That does it for this edition of "360".
Thanks for watching.
"Larry Kings" starts right now. I'll see you tomorrow night.
MCGINNIS: We want to update you on the latest regarding what's happening with tropical storm, Edouard. We've received an update from The National Hurricane Center and right now it has increased its winds to 60 miles-an-hour, it has been at 45.
It does not look very impressive on the enhanced satellite imagery, with most of the important convection along the northern and the eastern edge. The center is still situated down here so we're not seeing a clearly defined eye.
What can we expect? Well, we are continuing at least the thinking is the continuing is going to move toward the west and northwest at just about 8 miles-an-hour. But The National Hurricane Center seems to think of it, it could speed up just before it makes landfall.
Now, I want to remind you a couple things before it makes landfall, since its still in open waters, not interacting very well right now. But we're seeing -- still seeing some of those storm bands along the southern coast of Louisiana, from right around Vermillion Bay and right around Lake Charles as well. So tropical storm force winds expected there and tropical storm conditions.
A little bit closer view, now suggests that perhaps it should make landfall sometime before this 8:00 p.m. local time with much weakened wind. So we're suspecting maybe from noontime to about 4:00 that's kind of a ballpark. It could be shifting just a little bit, as these systems have a tendency to do.
Now take a look at the radar imagery, not looking all that impressive either, but there you can see some of the heavier bands into the southern coastal regions of Louisiana, 5 to 10 inches of rains possible in its wake. We'll keep you updated all night long.
"LARRY KING LIVE" begins right now.
