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Abdelhamid Abaaoud, Alleged Terro Mastermind, Confirmed Killed; ISIS Used a Female as Suicide Bomber in France; Remembering the Victims of Paris Attacks. Aired 8-9p ET

Aired November 19, 2015 - 20:00   ET

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[20:00:10] ANDERSON COOPER, CNN HOST: Good evening live from Paris tonight.

Another day of major developments here across Europe and around the world, as well as back in the United States. The leader of the Paris SWAT team that went into the Bataclan with only this shield and their training to protect them is speaking out, talking about what he saw inside what he calls hell on earth.

Also, as the planner of last week's massacre is confirmed dead blown to bits, another killer remains on the run. And the search for him is extended to the Netherlands. And a security forces round people up here, Belgium and elsewhere, a possible new threat surfaces against Rome and targets in the United States.

Back home, lawmakers vote to all but stop the threat of refugees that will be able to come to the country and FBI director James Comey has news on how many Americans are leaving the country to fight for ISIS. But sounds hopeful at first but could he says be just the opposite. We will explore those angles and more over the next two hours tonight.

We begin, though, with confirmation today that the alleged planner of the mass murder last week did in fact die in yesterday's raid outside the city. Details on that, the ongoing manhunt and the latest from our chief national security correspondent Jim Sciutto.

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JIM SCIUTTO, CNN CHIEF NATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Tonight, an urgent manhunt is underway across Europe as police continue to search for at least one suspected attacker still at large and still dangerous.

Salah Abdeslam briefly stopped by French police hours after the attacks but let go before authorities knew of his role in Friday's deadly rampage. Six new raids in Belgium overnight and hundreds more here in France in recent days have failed to catch him.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): The republic is doing everything to destroy terrorism.

SCIUTTO: French security services have netted perhaps the most dangerous suspect, Abdelhamid Abaaoud, the alleged mastermind confirmed killed in a furious gun battle with police Wednesday.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): The In the operation there was a target and it was reached.

SCIUTTO: And tonight, we're seeing chilling new video of this raid, just moments before police killed Abaaoud.

France is working feverishly to prevent scenes like this one captured on CCTV at the height of Friday's attack obtained by dailymail.com. One woman saved here in front of the restaurant only because the terrorist assault rifle appears to jam.

Today French lawmakers voted nearly unanimously to extend the country's state of emergency giving police broad new powers to detain suspects.

FRANCOIS HOLLANDE, FRANCE'S PRESIDENT (through translator): We are at war and for us to remain ourselves because that is what is in question, France must not lose itself to win this war. France must respond to hatred with fraternity. France will respond to a fanaticism with the hope of life itself.

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COOPER: Jim Sciutto joins me now here at the Plaza de la Republic.

There have been hundreds of raids across France. Do we know about a new intelligence that has been gathered?

SCIUTTO: Well, each thing they have been doing over these last several days, small clues have turned out to have some big results. The phone discovered at the scene of the attacks helped lead them to that apartment in Saint-Denis. That led apartment them to another apartment. We know that some of these raids raid to have them to now look at the Netherlands as a place where this missing bomber could be. So they are finding new connections each time.

The key target of this is of course to find that missing bomber. They haven't been able to do that yet. But also part of the process is to look back at things they knew in the past that added significance. One of those today is the idea that this plan to attack a concert hall here actually originated with another attacker for several months before who was arrested and it's interesting, of course, so at that time they didn't know that that plot would be active. But of course on Friday, different footing right now. So that is their different footing right now.

The clues in the past that didn't seem important or consequential or needing to be acted on today. They are acting on all of them today and only some of them will, you know, bear fruit. But their attitude now is we won't take chances.

COOPER: And they voted to extend emergency powers for three more months which gives them greater leeway in terms of what they can do in terms of resting people, searching people.

SCIUTTO: Exactly. It is to literally arrest and ask questions later.

COOPER: Yes. Jim, thanks very much.

Now, the Paris SWAT commander revealing what he and his team were up against and what they saw as they stormed the Bataclan where nearly 90 people lost their lives. Going by Jeremy and wearing a (INAUDIBLE) cloth to conceal his identity. He spoke tonight with NBC News' Lester Holt.

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JEREMY, EYEWITNESS: We took position at the enter of the theater and then we discover like a hell on earth. I mean, more than may by 7,000, 8,000 people lay on the floor.

LESTER HOLT, NBC NEWS ANCHOR: Seven to 800?

JEREMY: Yes, laying on the floor, tons of blood everywhere. Nobody was screaming. In the last door, we approach the door and suddenly one of the terrorists, on the stage ask us to go backward so I tried to speak with them and he told me he want to negotiate. So I said OK, give me a phone number. As soon as we open the door, one of the terrorists shot like between 25 to 30 rounds of AK-47 bullet.

[20:05:26] HOLT: That's these holes?

JEREMY: Exactly. Immediately, again in the middle of the group get hit in the hand so I fell down because of the pain --

HOLT: One of your officers did?

JEREMY: Yes. In the middle of the group. First thing we saw the guy shooting and a lot of maybe 20 feet between the shooter and us. We cannot shoot at that time because too -- it was too risky for the hostage. At the end of the hallway, we found two terrorists like a dead end for them and the first one blew himself with the explosive jacket. The other try to do the same but got shot by the officers.

HOLT: They were both wearing suicide vests.

JEREMY: Exactly.

HOLT: And one went off.

JEREMY: Yes, blood everywhere. For us, it was so intense the assault, the bullets, the explosion, all that stuff, we still very focused on what we did to be honest. And maybe half an hour after we saw what, all the environment and at first, it was very, very tough. We stuck together. We come back to the office and stay together maybe until 7:00 in the morning. And maybe they going to be some trouble for some of us in the next weeks or something, but for now, so far it's still OK.

HOLT: But you saved a lot of lives.

JEREMY: I think so. (END VIDEOTAPE)

COOPER: Remarkable. Jeremy on "NBC Nightly News."

With me (INAUDIBLE) all week, CNN senior international correspondent Clarissa Ward and senior terrorism analyst Paul Cruickshank.

And Paul, I mean, it is fascinating to hear from It's neat to hear from that commando who went in. Just an extraordinary scene, I mean, it is hard to imagine what it was like for them and especially for those hostages.

PAUL CRUICKSHANK, CNN TERRORISM ANALYST: The Syrian war came to Paris, right. I mean, we know that several of the attackers who were there presumably, you know, went to Syria, came back, learned how to sort of kill people essentially and they had firepower, they have suicide vests and there are these negotiations, but really just fake negotiations, fake demands because they wanted to extend the time so they could kill as many people as possible.

COOPER: It's so interesting because I talked to law enforcement officials in the United States who said that exact same thing. That is one of the things they learned from Abaaoud. That, you know, it used to be people take hostages and actually would be negotiations, that these people only take hostages to try to extend the time and whether it is extending extend the media coverage or just extending the time that they can remain in the building and potentially kill people, that the whole notion of taking hostages and negotiating for hostages, that's pretty much done with them.

CLARISSA WARD, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: There are no demands, anymore. These are acts of sheer violence (ph). And you know, it is a complete game-changer. We saw the same thing last week in Beirut with the massive suicide bombings that killed more than 40 people. There were no demands. There were no you must do this, you must do that. It was simply we're going to keep killing you.

COOPER: The good news today, Paul, is the death of alleged ringleader of this blown up, killed or I should say in this police raid in Saint- Denis. We don't know if he blew himself or either he was shot to death or what. But in terms of the larger network, I mean, there is still this manhunt going on now. And now, there might have gone to, this guy might have gone to the Netherlands. This is the eighth terrorist known to have got away Friday night. And potentially, there is a ninth, one video showed a ninth person in the vehicle with him.

CRUICKSHANK: Absolutely right. They have no idea where Salah Abdeslam is at this point. His last known location 9:00 in the morning on a Saturday where this was a police stop coming towards the Belgium border from France but let him carry on his journey. They arrested his other two companions in the car. But concern there is one other person, concern, as well, there could be a third attack team somewhere out there. And so, they are chasing every last piece of evidence they have that they were trying to interrogate the suspects they have. They want to know if there is something coming down the pipeline. I think they already know that there is something coming down the pipeline because the wider network is based in Syria. There are half a dozen French and Belgium operatives that climbed up the hierarchy of ISIS that are still there. One of those is a guy called (INAUDIBLE) who was ten years older with Abaaoud and were together with him for this plotting against Europe. And (INAUDIBLE) and Abaaoud were trying to recruit all these youngsters coming in and then sending them back very, very quickly after one or two weeks of training.

COOPER: Are you saying, he had actually been talking about attacking the Bataclan years ago.

CRUICKSHANK: That's absolutely right. 2009 he got involved in a plot to attack the Bataclan concert hall at that time. And because, you know, he saw it as a target because it had Jewish owners at that time and just until a few weeks ago. And so it's possible that Fabien clan who is maybe the senior mastermind here came back that very same target all of these years later. He is the guy that four ISIS claimed responsibility said there were eight attackers just a few hours off attack on Saturday.

[20:10:25] COOPER: You know, Clarissa, just after 9/11 in the United States there were big changes in how the intelligence community in the United States and FBI shared information. It seems like this event has got to spark the same kind of reappraisal of cooperation among intelligence agencies in Europe because it doesn't seem like there is sharing of data between these countries.

WARD: There isn't.

COOPER: The fact this this ring leader could get from Syria back into eventually come to France with nobody here in France realizing it until they were told by a foreign intelligence service.

WARD: Well, this is exactly it, Anderson. And I spoke to a former, very senior former intelligence officer and I said, you know, was this a failure because it has hallmarks of a failure. And he says it's not a failure because what we were trying to do was impossible. You can't monitor people, returnees from Syria, if you don't know when they are returning, if you don't know where they are returning to, if you don't have the different countries in Europe which once again to reiterate have porous open borders. People can cross freely without going through passport control. You can't simply monitor them.

We heard President Hollande lone come out just a couple of days ago and say by the end of the year, there has to be a cross continental sharing of passenger information network and that has to happen.

COOPER: Yes. That's amazing. It hasn't happen thus far.

Clarissa Ward, Paul Cruickshank. We'll talk to them throughout the next two hours.

Just ahead, the trail that led to the terror hideout in Saint-Denis and what we're learning about the woman who blew herself up. She's being called Europe's first female suicide bomber. The question now, will she be the first of many? That's a certainly chilling thought. Also tonight, new figures on how many Americans are leaving the

country to fight for ISIS and why a lower number may actually just be as bad as a higher one. We'll explain that ahead.

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[20:15:52] COOPER: Almost immediately after we learned that the man police believed planned and organized the terror attacks here was himself dead. Our Nic Robertson starting to learn some really fascinating details about how security forces actually found him in, came and found him in that apartment in Saint-Denis. We have heard the other day there was phone wiretaps from French authorities that led them to the apartment. And today we learned that wasn't all. Nic Robertson is here for that.

So how did they track this ringleader?

NIC ROBERTSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: You know, obviously, ringleader Abaaoud, Belgian that is Moroccan descent. It was Moroccan intelligence officials that told the French that Abaaoud was actually on French territory.

COOPER: So they didn't even realize he was on French territory?

ROBERTSON: They thought he was still inside Syria. That he is not back into Europe and that he was here. So it was that tip. And that tip came three days after the attack, so two days before the raids in Saint-Denis. So this then precipitated the telephone wiretaps on the cousin. They knew he must be around which is kind of interesting.

If you think about it, that was about the time we began to get the information that he might be connected to the attacks. So we, the journalists here in France, everywhere were flooding the zone with pictures of him. That would have been very helpful for the French police because obviously by then they know he is here and we don't know he is here. But now, his picture is everywhere so it would have made much harder for him to move around. I think that -- we don't know that this is where we -- the information came to us.

COOPER: But is it --

ROBERTSON: So I think it will help in that picture because it meant he couldn't move around.

COOPER: What I don't understand is how does a guy whose wanted by Belgium authorities, who is known to have planned a number of other attacks whose been in Syria, how does he get back in to Europe? I mean, we all know Europe has porous borders, you know, in for Europe, but even just to enter a European country, I mean, I just had to show my passport when I came to in the airport here. How weak is the border control?

ROBERTSON: you know, and it was appears he was able to get away from Belgium earlier this year after the (INAUDIBLE) attack.

COOPER: And he bragged about that in an ISIS publication. ROBERTSON: This is what -- if we go back to Al-Qaeda's play back and

what we learned about what they do in the training camps in Afghanistan and Pakistan, they form networks. These networks whether they would endured. So when they would come back as he's come back and ISIS is (INAUDIBLE), they had those networks of trusts that are established when they are there in Iraq and Syria. So they will have presumably now we can see safe houses along the route that they can use, plus the criminal element.

I was -- not to make a long story too long, but it is complicated. I was in Kabul a few weeks ago talking to a guy there who smuggles people into Europe. It's merely a matter of money. We know ISIS has money, $20,000 can get you from Kabul into Germany almost legally. So you know, fake passports, fake visas, so it can be done.

COOPER: Well, fascinating.

Nic Robertson, appreciate it. Thanks very much.

We are also learning more about the woman who blew herself up at the Saint-Denis hideout and also have a clear picture of her final moment alive. This is a newly released photo of her. She was 26. The ringleaders' cousin, according to a number of reports unlike him, she had only recently become radicalized. Her brother telling authorities that he had never once seen or even open up a Koran. Whatever led to her transformation, I guess you called it, it all ended yesterday morning at Saint-Denis. A camera capturing her final confrontation with police.

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COOPER: The video from a clear vantage point surfaced tonight on ABC News, the camera looking at the terror apartment as the suicide vest went off.

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COOPER: More on this woman and other women that decide to become deadly weapons. It's happened a number of times before, though. This is believed to be the first time in Europe.

Today, Spain's interior minister said the dead ISIS ringleader had been in Spain with a particular interest in recruiting women.

Served his time in Iraq, CNN military analyst lieutenant general Mark Hertling confronted a string of female suicide bombers. I spoke to him earlier just before the broadcast along with Mia Bloom who is a professional communication in Georgia State University and author of "bombshell, the many faces of women terrorists."

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[20:20:15] COOPER: General Hertling, while you were serving in Iraq you actually witnessed somebody detonate a suicide device.

LT. GEN. MARK HERTLING, CNN MILITARY ANALYST: Yes I did, Anderson. And also had several of my soldiers have the same experience. And that's something you never want to go through. And I'm sure the French police and the French commando unit that were in that building when this young woman detonated her device will remember that moment because it is pretty traumatic.

COOPER: Mia, I mean, you've looked very closely at the phenomenon of female suicide bombers. Do you find they are usually in some way related or the wives of jihads because we believe this woman was the cousin of the ringleader?

MIA BLOOM, PROFESSOR OF COMMUNICATION, GEORGIA STATE UNIVERSITY: You know, we have seen so many brother and sister teams carrying out suicide attacks. And in fact, when I looked at all of the women who have involved in terrorism, Islamic, non-Islamic groups, suicide bombers and as regular terrorists, the best predictor of a woman's involvement was being related to someone who was already in the group.

COOPER: So why do you think that is? Just as a lot of these networks to people who have prior relationships, just that you reach out to the people you know.

BLOOM: Part of it is that. Part of it also a fantastic vetting mechanism for the terrorist organizations. They are always worried about being infiltrated. And so, if someone is related to an existing member, they feel that they are more trustworthy. So this is something that we see it's all in the family.

HERTLING: I would add that we broke, actually broke a female suicide vest cell in Iraq in May of 2008 and what we found after a month of 19 --

COOPER: Now, those in Dealia (ph) province.

HERTLING: In Dealia (ph), province it was. And after a month of 19 different female suicide vests exploding in the region, I won't go into the details, but we were able to actually capture one of the young women, a 14-year-old that p happened to be a bride of a terrorists. She had been taken forcibly as a bride, 14 years old. And when her terrorist husband was killed, as many of the other ones were, the cultural norms say you have nothing right now. You've been married to a terrorist. You're an outcast from society. You have already been tainted as a woman because you lived with a man. So there is not much left for you in this world. And so the spiritual advisors of some terrorists groups will go to them and say why not take the easy way out and go to heaven and take a few infidels with you? So it almost in many cases is an action of last resort for some of these young women.

COOPER: And Mia, is it correct to say that this the first female suicide bomber used in Europe by ISIS? And if so, is it a sign of things to come?

BLOOM: It's certainly ISIS' first female suicide bomber. Up until now, ISIS has been very clear. The role for women is cooking, cleaning and child care. They do not have women on the front lines. But one of the things that we found in the ISIS chat rooms in October was that (INAUDIBLE) had come out with a statement under what conditions were women actually allowed to fight? They weren't allowed to martyrs and were not allowed to fight with brigades because they wouldn't allow to mix with men. But if someone entered your home, they were allowed to defend themselves. And in fact, even use a suicide belt to blow up without anyone's permission.

And this is something very different for ISIS. Whether it's a game changer is really going to depend on what is the reaction? Are the ISIS fan boys and the ranking file going to celebrate this woman or are they going to say we really don't approve? We prefer our women at home under the Vail cooking, cleaning and giving birth to little (INAUDIBLE).

COOPER: Mia, there is new information about the preference of western women from the jihadi groups.

BLOOM: You know, it's really interesting, (INAUDIBLE) pretended to be a very young convert to Islam. And she engaged one of al-Baghdadi's chief emirs (ph) on the Internet pretending to be this really young girl (INAUDIBLE). And he revealed to her at some point that a lot of the jihadis of ISIS prefer western women in convert because he said the Syrian women were uppity and it was the western women in the Congress that knew how to please a man. And she found this shocking that a man who was supposed to be religious actually asked her to wear Victoria Secret underwear and talk about, you know, really sketchy things online or Skype. But yes, that is in fact the rumor that Syrian women are not as accommodating.

COOPER: Mia Bloom, I appreciate your expertise and General Hertling as well. Thank you both.

BLOOM: Thanks so much for having us.

HERTLING: Thank you, Anderson.

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[20:25:01] COOPER: Just ahead tonight, new threats from ISIS, the cities they say they want to strike next.

Plus, what New York is doing to keep the city safe. I'll talk to the NYPD's counterterrorism chief, Chief Waters. We will be right back.

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[20:29:08] COOPER: ISIS released another new video today, this one threatening more attacks, attacks on Washington and Rome. Yesterday another video singled out New York of course as you probably know ISIS issued a string of threats since the attacks on Paris six days ago.

Justice reporter Evan Perez has new information on the new video plus details from an off camera briefing that FBI director James Comey gave today. He joins us now.

So what is going on, Evan? EVAN PEREZ, CNN JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT: Anderson, as much as ISIS is a

terrorist group, they also love doing propaganda. And they are taking their moment in the sun right now just to make sure that people understand the threat that pose, especially to western countries. And so that's what we're seeing with videos.

The FBI have been looking at them. A lot of them are recycled images, of videos that they used before and they know that everybody is watching. They know the world's media is there in Paris looking for what they are possibly might come next and that's what they are trying to do. They are ramping up fear.

[20:30:03] The FBI doesn't believe that there is any specific credible intelligence that it's coming from any of these videos that indicates a threat is coming to the United States or perhaps Italy or any of the number of countries that have been mentioned, but it is something that obviously makes them have to redouble their efforts to try to prevent the further attacks.

COOPER: And what about FBI efforts monitoring people in the United States?

PEREZ: Well, here is the rub for the FBI. They've noticed that the number of people trying to travel overseas, Anderson, to join ISIS in Iraq and Syria is down. It's used to be nine a month, now it's about six over three-month period. And so, the question that the FBI director Jim Comey was asking today was, well, is it because we are doing a better job of getting the message across that you shouldn't go or more worrisome, is it that people are heeding the word of ISIS, which is that you should stay at home and kill at home and that's the very powerful message that they broadcast through social media. We do know that they have dozens of people, that they are monitoring who are possible, more likely to carry out copycat attacks in the United States. That's their big concern. And so, that's what's been happening since the Paris attacks, Anderson.

COOPER: Is there any information about how many people are being looked at or monitored in the United States?

PEREZ: Well, there are dozens. There are 900 total investigations around the country, all 50 states that are believed to be linked to extremists, most of them, the vast majority are ISIS. And what we're told today by Director Comey in this pen and pad briefing we had with reporters, was that since the Paris attacks, they have ramped up, they are monitoring, they are making sure, they are keeping an eye on the ones that are high priority and that number is in the dozens.

COOPER: And I mean, it is - there is this notion of - and it is a big if, I mean is it -- are fewer going because they just don't want to go or are they not going because they are staying inside the United States? Is there any way for the FBI to figure that out? It sounds like that's not something the FBI is sure about at this point.

PEREZ: They are really not sure. You know, one thing that the FBI did do earlier this year, if you remember, that attempted attack on the Prophet Muhammad drawing contest in Garland, Texas it really squared them because it really showed that you can have some people that you're aware of and if you don't know when they might go from flash to bang, in other words, when they will go from just consuming ISIS propaganda and actually carry out an attack, it really scared them and it really ramped up the number of people they were monitoring, they've had dozens of cases arrests of people, even people who did not commit, they didn't have enough evidence of terrorism, they locked them up for various things including just lying to the FBI. The concern was we just need to get these people off the streets. We cannot take a chance that they might do something while we're watching them.

COOPER: Evan, I appreciate the reporting. And the new threats from ISIS come this New York. Braces the course for the holiday season. It draws huge numbers of tourists to the city. The NYPD, they've increased security across the city in the wake of the Paris attacks. New York, of course, it's long been a top target for terrorists. This is nothing new. James Waters at the NYPD. I spoke to him just before we went on air.

Chief Waters, let's start talking about this latest threat against New York by ISIS. I mean at a lot of the video it seems like the pictures in the threat are rehashed or recycled. Is this anything new this threat, is it a real concern?

CHIEF JAMES WATERS, NYPD COUNTERTERRORISM: So, we take all of this information very seriously, Anderson, as you know, but this looks like a cut and paste job. There is nothing new in any of the information and as I have said before, our operating premise here in New York is that we are the target of the terrorists and certainly, the crossroads of the world, Times Square are one of the targets.

COOPER: You know, one of the things that New York has been doing besides training police officers to be able to respond to active shooters, you have these very heavily armed teams, which and I'm not speaking out of school, these are very visible throughout the city. They show up in different locations, you never really know where they are going to be. Can you explain the thinking behind that?

WATERS: So what we have, Anderson, is the emergency service unit, highly-trained officers that are stationed throughout the city. They respond to a number of incidents, active shooter would just be one of them. They handle all the hostage and the barricaded jobs. More recently, we have changed our CRV deployment, our critical response vehicles of the counterterrorism bureau and turned it into a critical response command, a permanent command of 500 plus officers were going to be getting specialized training in counterterrorism. On Monday, we turned out the first - the four - on Monday, we turned out the four to 12 tour and they are - have to getting two weeks of training.

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The day squad is now undergoing that two weeks of training and they will be deployed in about a week and a half. And these officers are trained in a number of different counterterrorism programs, and certainly active shooter is at the top of that list. COOPER: So, the idea is, I mean, in many cities throughout the world,

they have to wait a long time for tactical units, for SWAT teams to show up. The idea in New York, I'm assuming is that there are these roving teams already in the city ready to respond and response time then is drastically reduced.

WATERS: Exactly. So, with the critical response command, these officers when they are fully trained and have all the weapons and the causes as we are in the progress of doing that, and the process of doing that, they will be stationed throughout the city. They will be in the Manhattan area on patrol and if the need were to arise, they would respond, don heavy vests and helmets, take the long gun with them, and they would proceed right into a move to the shooter and neutralize the threat.

COOPER: Because one of the things I know in Mumbai in 2008, the Pakistani terrorists, I believe there were ten of them, not only did they hit multiple locations, but they set - they put bombs or IEDs in taxi cabs that drove off and the idea was those would explode and not only cause damage, but would draw law enforcement and personnel toward wherever the explosions were and away from the actual intended target so it was really kind of a diversion.

WATERS: Right. And so, we study that and we train to those diversions. We do table top exercises and full field exercises where we take the tactics that were used in prior attacks. And make them a part of the scenarios as we do these drills. So that the officers become aware of the different tactics and then we train them to address them.

COOPER: Chief Waters, it's always good to talk to you. I appreciate it. Thank you, sir.

WATERS: Thanks very much.

COOPER: Well, just ahead. There is new video of one of the Paris attacks surveillance cameras inside a cafe captured the terrifying moments as gunmen open fire. Customers, employees scrambling to take cover. Plus, inside the Bataclan theater attack, a young couple describes how they managed to walk out alive and what was going through their minds as the carnage was unfolding.

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COOPER: It's been six days since ISIS struck Paris and the difficult work of identifying the dead, 129 innocent souls has finally been completed. Those who survived the attacks have been sharing their stories, filling in the horrific details. Tonight, though, we can actually show you what words alone can't convey. One of the targets, a cafe had several surveillance cameras that recorded the nightmare as it unfolded.