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Trump Campaigns In Florida; Trump: Clinton Could Shoot Someone And Not Be Prosecuted; Pence Releases Tax Returns, Earned $113.026 In 2015; Trump Allies Say He Now Believes Obama Was Born In U.S.; Clinton Meets With Foreign Policy Experts; Clinton: Trump Will Make Us Less Safe; Clinton Meets With Foreign Policy Leaders; Clinton: Time For "Rethinking" U.S. Approach To North Korea; U.S. And Russia Reach Deal On Syria Ceasefire; Trump On Undocumented Immigrants Serving In Military; U.S. Military Veterans Deported To Mexico; Remembering 9/11 Fifteen Years Later; "9/11 Fifteen Years Later" Airs Sunday At 8PM On CNN. Aired 9-10p ET
Aired September 09, 2016 - 21:00 ET
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[21:00:42] ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: Thanks for joining us for the second hour of "360". We begin in Pensacola, Florida where Donald Trump is wrapping up another busy day on the campaign trail, a day that included blaming Hillary Clinton for North Korea's nuclear test among other things. One thing he did not do was release his tax returns. His running mate, however, did just that.
CNN's Sunlen Serfaty joins me now from Pensacola. In terms of the rally, what was he talking about tonight, anything in particular?
SUNLEN SERFATY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yeah. Well, it's really interesting, Anderson. Donald Trump has the teleprompter tonight, he has prepared remarks but it's really a spot where he's deviated from those prepared remarks. It certainly caught our ear tonight. He's talking about Hillary Clinton and setting up their private e-mail server, all the controversy over her e-mails and the fact that she did not get charge, well, here's what he had to say.
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DONALD TRUMP, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Because she is being so protected. She could walk into this arena right now and shoot somebody with 20,000 people watching right smack in the middle of the heart and she wouldn't be prosecuted.
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SERFATY: So some pretty strong language and words there from Donald Trump. Of course, that's just more, for now, red meat to this crowd today ate it up. Anderson?
COOPER: Trump still has not released his taxes. Tonight, though, his running mate, Governor Pence, released his. What did we learn from those? SERFATY: Well, this is 10 years of Mike Pence's tax returns. We learned, quite frankly that he had a relatively modest salary. These are not big, seven figure numbers that we potentially could see if Donald Trump were to released his own return. The Pences, they had a tax rate of 8 percent in 2015. They earned an income of $113,000.
It certainly increases the scrutiny and the attention, though, on the fact that Donald Trump has not released his. He has said that that's because his tax returns are under audit but most recently, that argument was really weakened significantly with a letter from his tax counsel which said his tax returns between the years 2002 and 2008 were not under audit anymore. In essence, they could be released. So again, it just keeps this issue and this controversy for Donald Trump front and center. Right now even more than it was before.
COOPER: And Trump surrogates today addressing the long-standing claim that President Obama is not born in the United States, something Donald Trump had been pushing for a long time. What did they say?
SERFATY: This is really interesting, almost a full force effort from the Trump surrogates, including from his new campaign manager, who all of a sudden came out this week and said yes, Donald Trump believes that President Obama was indeed born here in the U.S. And that was notable because only they didn't back that up with any specific evidence. Those claims were largely unsubstantiated, especially because Donald Trump himself, he has never publicly agreed with that. He was given a chance just this week to back off his previous insinuations and accusations on where President Obama was born and he said to reporters just earlier this week that look, I just don't talk about it anymore. But notably, not disavowing those comments.
COOPER: All right. Sunlen, thanks very much. Joining me now is Sarah Huckabee Sanders, senior adviser for the Trump campaign. And Sarah, thanks so much for being with us.
You heard what Mr. Trump said in Pensacola, Florida a few minutes ago, that Hillary Clinton could shoot someone right in the heart and not be prosecuted. First of all, do you think he really believes that? And secondly, it is similar to what he said about himself earlier in the campaign that he could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and his supporters wouldn't care. I guess I'm asking if you can maybe explain his references to shooting people.
SARAH HUCKABEE SANDERS, TRUMP CAMPAIGN SENIOR ADVISER: Look, I hope nobody puts that to the test on either side. I think the bigger issue here is that Hillary Clinton's gotten away pretty easily frankly. She's pretty much proved that she's broken the law through the e-mail scandal, the Clinton Foundation and all she does is say, "Oops, I'm sorry, I made a mistake." At my house if my kids say that, they get in trouble. There are consequences.
COOPER: Right. But the FBI said that's not true.
SANDERS: And Hillary Clinton, instead of getting in trouble with consequences she asked for a promotion.
COOPER: Right. The FBI says she didn't break the law.
SANDERS: Well, I think that there's still further investigation that needs to take place here. I think it's very clear that she used her private server knowing she want supposed to. She put classified information on that server and clearly, that is in violation of what she knows she's supposed to do. She signed an affidavit saying she knew that what classified information, how that needed to be handled, she didn't handle it properly.
[21:05:01] And certainly, the issue with the Clinton Foundation taking money from foreign governments and using that foundation like a slush fund while she was secretary of state, I think that's definitely calls for investigation ...
COOPER: Let me ask you about ...
SANDERS: And I think when that happens, we'll see that there was certainly some foul play.
COOPER: Let me ask about the release of Governor Pence's tax returns tonight. Can you offer voters any clarity or any reason why Donald Trump actually will not release his tax turns? I'm not talking about the ones from the past few years that he still says are under audit. I'm talking about the ones from 2002 to 2008 that, according to his own attorneys, are not under audit.
SANDERS: Look, I think he's going to release them all at one time. He's made it very clear that once his audit is finished, he'll do that all at once.
COOPER: But his audit is finished for 2002 to 2008. And so, if you know, every candidate since Nixon has released their returns -- I mean, does Donald Trump just think point-blank American people don't have the right to see his tax returns, or shouldn't be able to see his tax returns?
SANDERS: Well, I don't think that's his point at all. I think he doesn't want to create extra scrutiny while he's in the middle of an audit, whether it's from previous tax returns or not. I think the data's question is ...
COOPER: Extra scrutiny from whom though because the IRS has already seen those tax returns from 2002 to 2008. In fact, has seen them and said, you know, according to his attorneys, nothing's wrong with them. So what extra scrutiny other than from voters and the media are you talking about?
SANDERS: Well, I don't think he's worried about the scrutiny from the voters but certainly from the media who hasn't exactly been very fair to Mr. Trump through this entire process. There's no reason to ...
COOPER: You really believe that?
SANDERS: ... to give them extra ammunition while he's in the -- absolutely. It's pretty hard not to.
COOPER: Yeah. Really.
SANDERS: I mean I lived through this through the primary all the way through the general. And certainly I think there's a different set of rules.
COOPER: Really? Because I can tell you the Clinton campaign feels the exact same thing about the media. But again, you still haven't answered ...
SANDERS: That's very interesting because they never talk to the media.
COOPER: Well, actually they have given press conferences the last four or five days in a row. But certainly for the last year, she has not given press conferences and we've been very critical of her for that.
But again, I still don't understand why shouldn't Donald Trump's taxes -- why shouldn't the American people know how much he pays in taxes, what his tax rate is? I mean since they know that about Hillary Clinton, they've known that about every presidential candidate since Richard Nixon? And they're not under audit.
SANDERS: I think Donald Trump ...
COOPER: They're not under audit.
COOPER: I think Donald Trump plans to do that ...
COOPER: 2002 to 2008, they're not under audit.
SANDERS: Look, he'll have to answer the question about those specific years. But I know that I've heard him say in person and to folks like you, Anderson, that when that audit is complete, he will release all of those returns at one time. My guess is he's waiting till this audit is finished and he'll release all of them at once instead of piece by piece.
COOPER: OK.
SANDERS: But I think the biggest question here is ...
COOPER: But again, just for the record, that audit is over and it doesn't -- and saying extra scrutiny doesn't give the IRS extra scrutiny or extra power over his current audit because they've already seen, they've already audited 2002 to 2008.
SANDERS: I understand that. Again, I think you're going to have to ask him specifically about those years. But my guess is that he's going to do that all at one time instead of doing it piece by piece. But again, I think the bigger ...
COOPER: My guess is it's not going to happen before the election. That's your -- I would assume that's your guess as well, right?
SANDERS: I really -- I have no idea. I don't know how long. I've never had the type of taxes that required ...
COOPER: Because if he's worried about extra scrutiny from the media, I assume he would be worried about extra scrutiny from the media before the election even with the taxes that -- I mean even if the audit ends, why would he release them if he's worried about extra scrutiny from the media?
SANDERS: Well, I think it has bigger impact. I think his biggest concern is making sure that the audit that is under way right now goes through smoothly, and again, as soon as that's done, I think he'll do that all at one time.
COOPER: Right, but the audit that's gone through right now has no bearing because, again, the IRS has already seen 2002 to 2008. So what you're saying doesn't make sense.
SANDERS: We may just have to agree to disagree. But I think the bigger point and the bigger question and what most Americans care about a whole lot more than Donald Trump's taxes are their own taxes, Anderson. They're far more concerned about who's going to help cut their personal taxes, who's going to help create economy growth in America and Donald Trump's clearly the candidate that's going to be able to do that versus Hillary Clinton.
COOPER: All right.
SANDERS: I think that's what most Americans are asking about.
COOPER: When Donald Trump says that Vladimir Putin is a strong leader, much more of a leader than President Obama, he says, can you point to a specific example to what Trump means, what the strong qualities are and why Trump thinks they are worth highlighting? Because, you know, this is a guy who, you know, there are plenty of allegations of him killing reporters, there's obviously invasion into, you know, Crimea, taking over Crimea into Ukraine. There's a whole host of authoritarian and autocratic, you know, policies and leadership that he's had while he's in power.
SANDERS: Look, I don't think anybody thinks Vladimir Putin is a perfect leader but I do think that Russia has gotten stronger under his leadership and America's gotten weaker. Our national debt has doubled. Our enemies don't respect -- don't fear us. Our allies don't trust us.
[21:10:06] I think America is in much weaker position than we were since Obama and Hillary Clinton have been in charge of the White House.
COOPER: But what moves that Vladimir Putin has made are strong? I mean the invasion of Crimea, is that the sign of a strong leader?
SANDERS: I didn't say he has made strong moves. I said that Russia is stronger in the world.
COOPER: But Donald Trump, your candidate, is saying he's a strong leader. So how is Vladimir Putin a strong leader? SANDERS: I'm saying his country is in a stronger position in the
world.
COOPER: Right.
SANDERS: And let's not forget, Obama ...
COOPER: But your candidate has said he's a strong leader. So I'm just asking you on defend what your candidate has said. How is he a strong leader?
SANDERS: Look, I think what his point is, is that his country has gotten stronger while ours has gotten weaker under Obama and Hillary Clinton leadership.
COOPER: And the Russian economy is actually not doing very well.
SANDERS: Obama and Clinton have embraced many foreign governments including Iran and Cuba, some of the worst governments in the world, and no one's talking about that. That should be one of the top issues that we're talking about right now is the way that they've embraced them. Hillary Clinton even taken money from foreign government in a pay-to-play scandal and we're ...
COOPER: Right, but Russia has embraced Cuba - Soviet Union embraced Cuba for decades.
SANDERS: ... ignoring that.
COOPER: Right. OK. I mean Russia embraced Cuba for an awfully long time and I guess that's another sign of their strength. But the U.S. embracing Cuba is somehow a sign of weakness?
SANDERS: I'm sorry?
COOPER: Soviet Union, you know, embraced Cuba for a long time. Russia even embraced Cuba and now you're saying that's a sign of weakness, when the U.S, in your accords, embraces Cuba, just normalizes relations but what when Vladimir Putin did it, that's a sign of strength?
SANDERS: No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that Vladimir Putin, Russia is in a stronger place in the world ...
COOPER: But their economy is doing terribly. You're aware of that, right?
SANDERS: And so is ours. And Obama has to take some real responsibility for that. And I think that was the point that Donald Trump was trying to make. That Obama and Clinton have not done anything to make America stronger. They've made us weaker. They've crippled our economy for things like ObamaCare and out of control regulations ...
COOPER: Can you just name one thing that Vladimir Putin has done to make Russia stronger? Is invading Crimea, killing journalists -- I mean just one specific?
SANDERS: No, I certainly don't think that those are things that have made him stronger. I'm just saying that the position in the world that they have as a power in the world has gotten stronger. I'm not saying that's necessarily a positive thing. I'm just saying that they are a stronger country as America has gotten to be a weaker country.
They have weakened our military. They're not taking care of our veterans. They have increased our debt. We are under greater attack like never before. And we certainly aren't making progress under Obama and Clinton and we absolutely have to have a major change in the country and in our leadership or we're going to continue down worse path under Hillary Clinton and that's the point that Donald Trump was trying to make. And that's the point I'm trying to make now.
COOPER: Here's what Republican Senator Lindsey Graham who is obviously hardly a Hillary Clinton fan said about Trump's Putin comments. I quote, "Other than destroying every instrument of democracy in his own country, having opposition people killed, dismembering neighbors through military force and being the benefactor of the butcher of Damascus, he's a good guy." Do you agree with those points? I mean did Donald Trump agree with those points?
SANDERS: Look, I'm not here to say that Vladimir Putin is a good guy. I'm here to say that I think Donald Trump would be a good president, particularly in contrast to Hillary Clinton. She's shown us that her judgment is poor, particularly on foreign relations. She's shown us that she has no respect for our national security by not standing up for our country, by not protecting our national security, putting everything on private servers, breaking the law through her slush fund at the Clinton Foundation.
My job here is to tell you why Donald Trump would be a good president. And that's why I think he would be. He would be infinitely better ...
COOPER: OK.
SANDERS: ... than Hillary Clinton ...
COOPER: Got it.
SANDERS: ... who's done a horrible job. And I think that's why we need to make a big change.
COOPER: All right. Sarah Huckabee Sanders, I appreciate you being with us. Thanks very much.
We're going to get reaction from our panel next.
Also ahead, Hillary Clinton says national security experts on both sides of the aisle are chilled by what they're hearing from Donald Trump and the promises he's making will make the country less safe. More from that meeting and the questions that she answered afterward, coming up.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK) [21:17:48] COOPER: Donald Trump just wrapped up a rally in Pensacola, Florida tonight. Before the break, we heard from his senior campaign adviser.
We got a lot to talk about on this busy Friday night.
Joining me on the panel tonight is New York Democratic congressman Gregory Meeks, National MoveOn.org spokesperson Karine Jeanne-Pierre, both are Clinton supporters. Also with us is Chris Prudholm, president of Vote America Now, CNN political commentator and Trump supporter Kayleigh McEnany and former South Carolina Lieutenant Governor Andre Bauer, who also supports Donald Trump.
Kayleigh, Mike Pence releasing his tax return, do you think that puts more pressure on Donald Trump or less pressure on Donald Trump to release his returns?
KAYLEIGH MCENANY, TRUMP SUPPORTER: Not at all. I think the only thing that would put pressure on Donald Trump to release his taxes, which are not required to be released by law, would be Hillary Clinton turning over the 15,000 e-mails she is required by law to turn over. At that point if she obeys the law, the Federal Records Act, and turns over the e-mails she deleted with hammers, her aides did and bleached out of cyberspace, once she does that, then there's pressure on Donald Trump but only then can she make a transparency argument.
COOPER: But Hillary Clinton has released her tax returns. I mean I get the whole e-mail argument in which we've gone over a million times. But her taxes are known, the Clinton Foundation taxes are known, Donald Trump's are not. That's not an issue?
MCENANCY: We know he pays taxes according to the law. That's how he survived nearly a dozen audits. That's what voters need to know. If he wants to release his taxes he can. I don't think a single voter is going to not vote on him because his taxes are not. I think people care about how his policies and how Sarah Huckabee said his tax policy will affect their lives.
COOPER: Andre, even the taxes which are not under audit currently which have already been audited, you don't think should be ...
ANDRE BAUER, TRUMP SUPPORTER: I think Kayleigh's right. I don't think voters care if he hadn't paid his taxes, and under this administration we'd know had he not paid his taxes. I think the people would ...
COOPER: But we don't know if he has actually paid taxes because maybe he doesn't have to pay.
BAUER: Well under law, what he's had to do, he's done.
COOPER: Right. Sure.
BAUER: And I think the voters are good with that. I don't think that most people care what tax bracket he's in. I think it would be great for the other side -- I think both sides use it against to extrapolate whatever information they can get and pound on the other person for it. But he would probably take more fire if he turned them over than not turning them over.
KARINE JEAN-PIERRE, NATIONAL SPOKESPERSON, MOVEON.ORG: Not true. Voters do actually care. And polling has showed that majority of voters actually care about him releasing his personal taxes. That's number one.
[21:19:59] Number two, what is he hiding? Like why not release your taxes? The last nine Republican presidential nominees have all released their taxes. So I don't understand. What is it that Donald Trump is releasing now? We know it's no longer -- 2002 to 2008 are no longer under audit.
There's a reason for him not to. He said that he would when he announced his presidential candidacy. He said that he wouldn't release those taxes. So I'm not understanding the argument now or the whole-back.
COOPER HOST: Chris, you spoke to a lot of millennial voters who have expressed dislike frankly both candidates, Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. How much of the Birther issue on Donald Trump is kind of a lingering source of resentment among particularly millennial African- American?
CHRIS PRUDHOME, PRESIDENT, VOTE AMERICA NOW: It certainly is a definitely a lingering issue. They're extremely upset. They feel -- of course his campaign managers has said Mike Pence had both stated that it's -- he did not -- it's not correct of course that's what he said. So, basically Mr. Trump should come out and simply put the issue to bed, put it to rest.
Of course, as President Obama being the first African-American president of the United States, I've frankly talking to them think that it's unacceptable to just continue to let the issue develop and go on.
I believe it's an insult to the American people, and of course, to people watching us across the world. He needs to put it to rest. Only he can do that, not Kellyanne Conway, not Mike Pence. He has to do that himself.
COOPER: It is interesting, Kayleigh, because I mean he's -- Donald Trump line when you ask him about this, and it has been really from the beginning of this campaign is I don't talk about that anymore. But he certainly talks about it an awful lot on television. He was out front. He claimed even higher private detectives to go to Hawaii even though there's no evidence he actually did any of that. And I mean, should he come out flat and say, "Look, yes, I accept that President Obama is an American?"
MCENANY: I think it's enough that he stopped talking about it eight years ago or -- not eight years ago, excuse me, more like six years ago. But I think the fact that his answer is always I put this to rest is just fine. I don't recall ...
COOPER: He doesn't say I put it to rest. He just says I don't talk about it.
MCENANY: I don't recall Hillary Clinton when she was asked by 60 minutes about whether Barack Obama was of the Islamic faith, she said no, as far as I know. The "New York Times", the columnist came out and called it the sleaziest moment of the campaign. She was hit by "Time" magazine. She was hit by Ryan Lizza from the New Yorker.
I don't recall her ever coming out and putting that to rest despite the media on slot of criticism. I don't think Donald Trump needs to be held to a higher standard.
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COOPER: One at a time.
PRUDHOME: We're talking about a president of the United States.
JEA-PIERRE: Yeah. That's right.
PRUDHOME: (Inaudible) separate issues.
JEA-PIERRE: Exactly.
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COOPER: ... he should come out and say something?
REP. GREGORY MEEKS, (D) NEW YORK: Absolutely. Here's a man who started this whole campaign questioning whether or not the president of the United States was a citizen of the United States.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's right.
MEEKS: And he had never, ever changed ...
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COOPER: Whoa, whoa, whoa. Let me just -- to correct the record because that is a line that a lot of, you know, Republicans have used. To say the Clinton campaign started, there were these clean senior Clinton supporters who did in an e-mail send this out. There's no evidence the campaign itself or Hillary Clinton, I mean, just for accuracy's sake.
JEAN-PIERRE: Can I just say this?
COOPER: But Donald Trump has certainly run with the ball.
PRUDHOME: No question.
COOPER: And, you know, went far -- much farther than anybody else. I mean claiming on T.V. that he was hiring detectives who were finding out fascinating ...
BAUER: He has dropped that ball now.
COOPER: Well, he's just ignoring the ball basically.
JEAN-PIERRE: Just to follow up on what the Congressman was saying here. Look, I worked for the president during that time, in 2011 when this all started, when Donald Trump actually decided to be the grand wizard of the Birther movement. He decided that. No one told him to do that. That's how he decided to introduce himself to the political, you know, to the political sphere.
And it was so insulting, as a black woman, who's working for the first African-American president, it was incredibly insulting that he had to release a long form birth certificate to prove that he was born here.
BAUER: But why?
JEAN-PIERRE: Because the ...
BAUER: If somebody asked if I was a U.S. citizen ...
JEA-PIERRE: ... guy that you support ...
BAUER: I don't have anything to hide.
JEAN-PIERRE: Because the guy that you support was leading this movement and ...
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COOPER: Let just remind -- I just want to remind, you know, for people who say, look, this wasn't a big error. Donald Trump didn't talk about it much.
Let's just play with some of his comments about it in the past.
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TRUMP: Yeah, I would like to have him show his birth certificate. And can I be honest with you? I hope he can. Because if he can't, if he can't, and if he wasn't born in this country, which is a real possibility, he has pulled one of the great cons in the history of politics.
Why doesn't he show his birth certificate? There' something on that birth certificate.
He doesn't have a birth certificate.
His grandmother in Kenya said he was born in Kenya and she was there and witnessed the birth. I have people that actually have been studying it and they cannot believe what they're finding.
And all of a sudden, a lot of facts are emerging and I'm starting to wonder myself whether or not he was born in this country. Somebody told me and I have no idea whether this is bad for him or not. But perhaps it would be that where it says religion, it might have Muslim.
Was there a birth certificate? You tell me. Who knows about Obama? Obama ...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: His mother was a U.S. citizen ...
TRUMP: Who knows? You know, can I tell you -- who knows?
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[21:25:02] COOPER: Tell me he's still saying -- I mean who knows this is really the last he's been on record. That's OK for you?
MCENANY: He questioned where he was born. You can ask a question of a candidate or of a politician. He did the same thing to Ted Cruz. He got the answer. He moved on. Last time I checked ...
COOPER: But in January of 2016, he's still saying who knows. I mean isn't -- if you are out in front on this, saying I've had detectives and they're finding out these incredible things, isn't it -- doesn't it, you know, doesn't a real man stand up and say, you know what, he is an American. We didn't find out anything and in fact, there is a birth certificate.
MCENANY: But we know it's what Kellyanne Conway told us. He believes the evidence now. He believes that the president was born here. And last time I checked the Gallup's top list of issues, this wasn't on it. I don't think voters frankly care about this.
MEEKS: Then he should say. Anderson?
COOPER: Congressman?
MEEKS: Then he should say it. If he believes it, he should say it. There's a pattern with Donald Trump. I'm still looking, I'm sure that everybody's still looking for those thousands of Muslims as we celebrate -- as we look at the devastation that took place on 9/11. The thousands of Muslims that were cheering during 9/11. That has not taken place.
COOPER: In Jersey City.
MEEKS: And in Jersey City. We are still waiting. He has said -- we've heard video -- we've heard video where he said that he was for the war in Iraq. He now says he wasn't. There's not any evident where he was against the war in Iraq at the beginning.
MCENANY: There's a lot of evidence.
MEEKS: We are still waiting for that. I'm still waiting for an apology. In New York City, there were five men who were on the front page of "The Daily News" and an ad taken out where he was calling them all kinds of names. They were found to be innocent. I still have not heard him to apologize for that. ] There is a practice and pattern with Donald Trump who continues to make noise that he knows is absolutely incorrect. He never apologizes about it. He leaves it out there. In fact, sometimes is who do you believe? We've heard his voice claiming that he was somebody else talking to a reporter and he still has not admitted that was him.
COOPER: It is interesting because Donald Trump has said he has regretted some things but he hasn't been specific at all. He's never publicly that I've known of said I was wrong about a particular thing. Is that something, as a leader, that concerns you at all?
MCENANY: No. I don't think he needs to go through the list of every single thing ...
COOPER: Or just one?
MCENANY: ... he felt like he misstated ...
COOPER: Ever?
MCENANY: ... or misspoke. You know, I'm looking for a lot of apologies from Hillary Clinton. I'm looking for that apology ...
COOPER: Well she said -- she said for instance the e-mail thing was wrong.
MCENANY: And then she blamed it on Colin Powell. And then in the FBI interview, she blamed it on her aide.
I'm still waiting for the apology that she perjured herself before Congress. I'm looking for the apology that she potentially obstructed justice ...
COOPER: But why does she -- I mean -- OK. So, she's got one apology on the record that we can name right now. Where's -- does he have any apology ever?
MCENANY: Here's the difference between apologies. You know, Donald Trump said I'm sorry for the mistakes I've made. We haven't ...
COOPER: He didn't say that. He said there are some things that I regret.
MCENANY: I regret some things that he said. We haven't heard him bring it up the Khans again. We haven't heard him bring up some of those things. By contrast, Hillary Clinton says she made a mistake and then continues, just like Wednesday in that forum, she continues to try to explain ....
JEAN-PIERRE: The problem is that Donald Trump is not in the business of apologizing. If he was, we he would be apologizing every day.
COOPER: We got to take a break. I want to thank everybody.
Hillary Clinton meeting with bipartisan group of foreign policy experts, taking questions from reporters with some strong words, no surprise, for Donald Trump. We'll be right back.
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[21:32:15] COOPER: Hillary Clinton says Donald Trump will make us less safe and that national security experts on both sides of the aisle are chilled by what they're hearing from him.
Clinton met today with a group of foreign policy experts. Afterwards, she spoke at a press conference and had some tough words for Trump. Brianna Keilar tonight reports
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BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: Tonight, Hillary Clinton is showcasing her commander-in-chief credentials, meeting with a bipartisan group of prominent national security experts.
HILLARY CLINTON, (D) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I asked them to join me for a candid conversation about some of the most challenging issues facing our country.
KEILAR: Among those at the meeting, former CIA Director and retired General David Petraeus and Michael Chertoff, George W. Bush's Homeland Security secretary. After the meeting, in a carefully staged event designed to evoke a White House press conference, Clinton came to the microphone to once again blast Donald Trump.
CLINTON: This just becomes more and more of a reality television story -- show. It's not -- it's not a serious presidential campaign. And it is beyond one's imagination to have a candidate for president praising a Russian autocrat like Vladimir Putin.
KEILAR: But with North Korea's test of yet another nuclear weapon, Clinton is also in a political bind. Trump saying earlier today, it's evidence her time as secretary of state was a failure. Clinton condemned the test and said the U.S. must recalibrate its approach with North Korea.
CLINTON: We are not going to let anyone who is a treaty ally and partner of ours be threatened and we are not going to let North Korea pursue a nuclear weapon with the ballistic missile capacity to deliver it to the United States territory. That is absolutely a bottom line.
KEILAR: Clinton's running mate, Tim Kaine, is accusing Trump of showing a shocking level of disrespect for President Obama in praising Russia's president, Vladimir Putin.
TRUMP: He's been a leader far more than our president has been a leader.
TIM KAINE, (D) VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: If you don't know the difference between leadership and dictatorship, then where do I start with you?
KEILAR: The Clinton campaign is out with a new ad emphasizing the importance of Democrats and Republicans working together.
CLINTON: That's how we got health care for eight million kids, rebuilt New York City after 9/11, and got the treaty, cutting Russia's nuclear arms. We got to bring people together. That's how you solve problems and that's what I'll do as president.
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KEILAR: And there are now number of photos, Anderson, out from the Clinton Library, this was not reported by Politico because they put in a federal -- they put in a four year request to receive this.
You see this. This is from 2000. You see Donald Trump, you see Melania Trump, you see a sport illustrated swim suit modeling model there, they're yanking it up.
[21:35:05] But what's most interesting is that the archive which runs the library said there are 59 images of Hillary Clinton at a 94 fund- raiser that Donald Trump attended and they're not going to release them because they are personal records. Unclear how many of those photos they're together but wouldn't we like to see those.
COOPER: Brianna Kielar. Brianna thanks very much.
More breaking news, now, the United States and Russia reached a deal for a ceasefire in Syria set to take effect at sundown on Monday. Now, Secretary of State John Kerry and Russia's Foreign Minister announced the plan in Geneva which where Senior International Diplomatic Editor Nic Robertson is tonight. He joins us now.
So, this deal -- I mean let's talk about the details. What do we know?
NIC ROBERTSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL DIPLOMATIC EDITOR: Yeah. Well, we know that after seven days of this ceasefire and humanitarian access is successful. Then United States and Russia will begin to coordinates attacks on the old al-Qaeda affiliate Al-Nusra and on ISIS. It means that the moderate rebel groups have to separate away from Al-Nusra.
That means as well that there will be humanitarian access getting in to Aleppo City, hugely important, 300,000 people there, opposition of the government, basically, you know, almost starving.
It also means that Assad's air force is not going to be able to drop its barrel bombs, is going to have -- not be able to fly its fighter jets over proscribed areas inside Syria. We haven't heard how the details of that is going to work out.
But, you know, for all the details of this, I have a real sense of deja vu here. I mean some of the language Secretary Kerry says, you know, that Russia has the capability to pressure Assad to end the conflict and go towards a political process. We've heard this before.
COOPER: Yeah.
ROBERTSON: This was the predication for the peace deal earlier in the year and two years ago, when push comes to shove. And it's a huge push and a huge shove. Russia doesn't force Assad to that position of stepping aside for political transition. That is just one small point. There are a lot more.
COOPER: Yeah. Where is Syria in all of this? I mean, where is the government of Syria in this?
ROBERTSON: Well, according to this document, they're going to listen to Russia. But listening to Russia today through the words of Sergei Lavrov, you're going to wonder quite what you're listening to. He said part of this deal is going to expand the humanitarian effort, enhance the cessation of hostilities.
And I'm sort of standing here thinking really? Because Russia's been backing Assad on the ground to essentially thwarts the cessation of hostilities and keep the conflict going and thwart the effort to get humanitarian aid around the country.
There's another detail as well that's really interesting. This humanitarian aid in Aleppo, key part of that is the ceasefire details there, on a key road. Speaking to a source close to these talks at the beginning of the weekend, he said key for the United States was that Russia would get Assad to pull his forces back from that road. But the rebels, because they controlled the road back in February, wouldn't have to pull their guns back.
Well, guess what? Secretary Kerry today said he had agreed with what Russia had said that both sides should pull their guns back. You know what that effectively means is? That effectively means for all the stymieing and stopping the peace process by Russia and Assad, stopping the peace process over the past six months. They've gained territory on the ground. They have been rewarded for thwarting these peace efforts that Secretary Kerry is faithfully trying to push through it.
COOPER: Yeah, Nic Robertson, appreciate the reporting.
Just ahead, this week, Donald Trump seemed to be open to the idea of giving a break to undocumented immigrants who want to serve in the military. Welcome words extremely for veterans who are in Limbo in Mexico after being deported from United States. Take at look at that next.
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[21:42:44] COOPER: Donald Trump revealed a potentially news aspect of his immigration policy during the presidential forum just two nights ago. Listen.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thank you. Do you believe that an undocumented person who serves -- who wants to serve in the U.S. Armed Forces deserves to stay in this country legally?
TRUMP: I think that when you serve in the Armed Forces, that's a very special situation and I could see myself working that out, absolutely.
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COOPER: Well, his words resonated with some veterans Kyung Lah met in Mexico. After serving in the U.S. military, they were deported and are now living in legal limbo. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
KYUNG LAH, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: How many years has it taken to get to this point?
HECTOR BRAJAS, DEPORTED VETERAN: I was been deported since 2004. It's now a little bit over 10 years.
LAH: More than 10 years in Mexico to finally get into this line for a Mexican passport, the first in a very long series of steps to try and return to what he calls home. But not to Mexico, to America.
Hector Barajas has served five and a half years in the U.S. Army, honorably discharged. Life was tough after the military. Barajas was in a car when another passenger fired an illegal weapon. After a jail sentence, the country he called home since age seven, that he served as a paratrooper, where he had a family including a daughter, pulled his green card and deported him.
Is this what you thought would happen when you left the military?
BARAJAS: No, I never thought that I would be deported. And I didn't even know -- I thought immigration would be like for somebody like my uncle that's coming across and gets caught.
LAH: But it's not. U.S. veterans who run into legal troubles are also deported under current U.S. immigration laws. With Donald Trump now suggesting he'd look at undocumented military members with an open mind. It's a surprising and welcome turn for Barajas.
BARAJAS: I don't approve of what he said about Mexicans and immigrants, but I do approve of anybody wanting to get veterans home.
DANIEL TORRES, DEPORTED VETERAN: Will he do it? I don't know. I really don't think so.
LAH: Daniel Torres doesn't buy Trump's promise. Torres with the lance corporal in the U.S. Marines, fighting in ground combat in Iraq. He was honorably discharged.
How did the military figure out you were undocumented?
TORRES: Well after I got back from Iraq, I volunteer for one year deployment to Afghanistan.
LAH: That's when the military figured out his papers were fake.
Why did you lie to the military?
[21:44:59] TORRES: I wanted to be able to say that I have done something for the country, that I have done something, you know, to earn my place in the United States.
LAH: Lying was enough to get deported. He's pled his case in U.S. Court. And just this spring, became one of the few granted his U.S. citizenship. It's a path Barajas hopes others in his organization, the Tijuana base Deported Veterans Support House will travel.
LAH: Barajas has more than 300 deported U.S. vets in his database but according to the ACLU, there are thousands of other U.S. service men and women who could end up right here, deported out of the United States in this exact same situation.
Barajas now has new hope after years of fighting. He has a court date to argue for his citizenship. Step one, a Mexican passport.
Are you hopeful?
BARAJAS: I'm hopeful. I'm excited. I love my country. I love my daughter and I just can't wait to be home.
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LAH: And his court date is September 30th. So, we'll keep tabs on what happens there.
Now, we do know that thousands potentially could be affected by this, Anderson. What we don't know is exactly how many live in legal limbo, how many have already been deported?
We've heard the ACLU use the words countless. We know that here are at least 300 in this one border city here in Tijuana. What we don't know is exactly how many others live in this exact same situation. Anderson?
COOPER: Kyung Lah. Kyung, thanks very much.
Up next, 9/11 15 years later. Denis Leary is part of the award winning documentary that air Sunday on CNN. It's incredible documentary. We'll show you part of it and have our conversation in just a moment.
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[21:50:13] COOPER: Well, this Sunday, CNN Films presents an incredible documentary, "9/11 Fifteen Years Later". Producers captured the only known video from inside the World Trade Center during the attack.
I'm going to show you a preview though just to want to warn you some of it is tough to watch.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It was just before 10:00, a little over an hour since the first plane hit.
Firefighters from all over the city were inside those towers, hundreds of them.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I remember I'm filming Chief Pfeifer and he's on the radio.
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COOPER: That sickening rumbling of course was the other tower collapsing.
Denis Leary is going to introduce the film on Sunday night. I spoke to him earlier.
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COOPER: This film is so extraordinary that it really -- it takes you inside what happened through the eyes of the firefighters. Why do you think it's important for people to see it?
DENIS LEARY: I think it's a living document, right? My kids are 26 and 24 and they were very young when this happened and they were aware of it happening. But I think for them, this kind of movie becomes a forever document.
COOPER: Right. Well, it's also incredible when you think -- I mean, there's a generation of people who've grow up after that who don't have you know, who didn't live through it or who don't have a direct memory of it. And so, this kind of film, it becomes all the more important.
LEARY: Yeah, and it would have been powerful in its own right but the fact that they have footage inside one of the buildings. There are so many images in this thing that even now when I see it and I lose track of how long it's been but, you know, you -- it's still for me, is a very present memory and I live downtown so I see that building every day.
COOPER: I just remembered the days and week afterwards that sense of this extraordinary kind of bond between people in New York and remember being in a restaurant where I have getting breakfast and there were some firefighters there and everybody -- when came in, everybody stood up and applaud it. And it was just this incredible feeling like that I'd never had in New York before. I've seen it overseas in some war zones but sort of this sense of we've been attacked and people bonding together
LEARY: Yeah, it was -- I still remember that and also the streets, how the streets as we all went about whatever we had to do over the next few days after that, that was -- it was almost like a meeting ground.
COOPER: Yeah.
LEARY: Like you just go -- when you walked out of your apartment, even if you were just going to get a cup of coffee, it's all anybody talked about and also sharing stories about people who might be missing or stories that related to firefighters or police officers. So, I remember that feeling really well.
I also remember, you know, a few months later getting the finger from somebody finally and actually thinking to myself, oh, my God, you know, we're getting back to normal because it was almost like people don't understand that don't live here, what that felt like.
And also at the same time, a sense of pride about being a New Yorker and about how well we responded.
COOPER: Also the -- I mean, just you see in this film, just the extraordinary bravery of these firefighters and police officers and the first responders who, you know, I mean, they're rushing in and they're going up the stairs and all the lives that were saved as well I mean, there were the lives that were lost but thanks to them they got people out.
LEARY: That's the thing that people don't talk about enough. It's actually the most extraordinary fire service day in the history of the fire service. What those guys did that day, how many people they brought down or who were assisted down? How many people they brought out of those buildings? It's amazing. And we dwell on the people that we lost as we should.
But you think about -- and the evidence that we have, you know, certain radio interplay and stories that we have about what guys were doing that day, the last time another firefighter heard from them or saw them. It's really amazing.
COOPER: Also, at -- I mean great, not only risk, but obviously, in the aftermath of going through trying to find survivors ...
LEARY: Yeah.
COOPER: ... coming through the rubble, the wreckage, I mean, for days and days, breathing in that smoke, breathing in that toxic air and without masks, without respirators, without, you know.
[21:55:05] LEARY: Yeah. And then, you have stories like a friend of mine, Timmy Higgins, was one of guys who died that day, a firefighter and his family is all firefighters, his dad and his two brothers Joe and Bobby. So, they're looking for their brother at ground zero. As fireman I mean, that's like -- that deep.
COOPER: Do you worry that people will forget about that day?
LEARY: No, I don't. I tell you what, I avoided going to the museum and the plaza, you know to film the first day of the narration for this thing and I had to stand at the pools and deliver some narration and then go into the museum itself and --
COOPER: And that was the first time?
LEARY: First time for me, and I was very conflicted about that going down in the morning. But I have to say, the sound of the water and the waterfall and the pools made me feel calm and when I went into the museum, that, it's extraordinary. So, I think it's impossible for that to happen.
COOPER: For it to be forgotten.
LEARY: Yeah, ever. COOPER: And I certainly think a film like this is part of that remembrance as well.
LEARY: Oh, yeah, I think this is so powerful and it's a living document you know, It's -- I think forever I mean, I think the next generation of kids will watch this as well, so.
COOPER: Well, thank you so much.
LEARY: Thank you.
COOPER: Appreciate it.
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COOPER: This Sunday night, I mean, it really is an extraordinary film. I hope you watch "9/11 Fifteen Years Later".
Also Sunday, we have exclusive interview with Hillary Clinton on 9/11 terror and national security. That's Sunday morning. We'll be right back.
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