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Possible Copy Cat Sniper on I-10 in Arizona; Did Joe Biden Say He's Not Running; Patriot Radio Interfered with Game. Aired 11:30-12p ET

Aired September 11, 2015 - 11:30   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


[11:30:00] SARA SIDNER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I want to let you hear there is one group out there that is armed to the teeth and they have reacted to that call, and they're coming out here, and they are completely and utterly putting all their focus on trying to find who the shooter is.

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TONY BOTT, FOUNDER OF BOTT FORCE: The first thing we're going to do is we're going to call our DPS contact immediately, and I guarantee you, there's going to be people around here so fast that you couldn't even blink.

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SIDNER: But they are very clear that they are in contact with the authorities to make sure that the authorities know they're out there, because they're armed, and some folks might see them and think maybe they have something to do with it. They are out here every night, a dozen people or more, looking for this potential serial shooter -- John?

BOLDUAN: Sara Sidner, thank you so much.

Got to be enormous concern for all the drivers out there.

BOLDUAN: Absolutely.

Coming up next for us, an interview you don't want to miss. We'll speak live to the man who ran Joe Biden's presidential campaign in 2008. His take on Biden's riveting interview on "The Late Show" last night. Did Biden essentially tell us he's not going to run? We'll ask.

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BOLDUAN: Apple fans are abuzz over the announcement of a new iPad with a bigger screen and also new 3-D touch screen for the iPhone.

BOLDUAN: But not everything. What about bendable screens?

BOLDUAN: What?

BOLDUAN: One tech company is working on that design right now. CNN's Samuel Burke takes a look.

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[11:35:05] SAMUEL BURKE, CNN TECH CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): This isn't a trick. This screen is meant to be twisted, bent, even rolled up. Start up, Polly Era, spent 10 years developing the new technology. The real break through is what's behind the screen.

(on camera): How do you make the screens you produce bend?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We start with new electronic materials. What you see is a bottle of these electronic materials but we can then actually turn those into the building blocks of electronics. So these are transistors and they are highly flexible and highly mechanically resistant to things like impact.

BURKE (voice-over): It's not bending the screen that's the hard part. It's everything that's in the screen. That's what's hard to make bend.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's all those layers of different materials. And some of the hardest materials are the almost electronically active materials to make bend.

BURKE (voice-over): The bendable display uses black and white e-paper technology, which is thin, durable, and energy efficient. Now Polly Era is putting the screens to use in a wearable it calls the Wove Band, slated to roll out next year.

(on camera): What's your vision?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Here you see an early stage prototype. It's the device in a flat state but you can change its shape and put it around your wrist. I will change the image. It's fully touch enabled. Of course, you could customize it.

BURKE (voice-over): No wearable has become mainstream yet, and even if Wove doesn't, the technology behind it may bend our future.

Samuel Burke, CNN, San Francisco.

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BOLDUAN: Our thanks to Samuel.

This morning, so many people inside and outside the political world are talking about Joe Biden's appearance with Stephen Colbert. Did he hint that he is not running for president? This was deeply personal about his faith and the loss of his son. Listen to this.

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JOE BIDEN, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: A couple months before he died, I was at his house, and he said, "Dad, sit down. I want to talk to you." With his wife. Incredible kid. And he said, "Dad, I know how much you love me. You've got to promise me something, promise me you're going to be all right because, no matter what happens, dad, I'm going to be all right. Promise me." This is a kid who -- I don't know what it was about him. He had this enormous sense of empathy. And I know I maybe sound like a father.

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BOLDUAN: He does sound like a father, and that's exactly what he should sound like in talking about his son.

Let's discuss this further. Let's bring in Luis Navarro, Biden's 2008 presidential campaign manager.

Luis, thank you so much for joining us.

You can see in every clip we show, you can see this is Joe Biden wearing his emotions on his sleeve. We know this about Joe Biden, this is how he is, but he's really struggling not only understandably with the death of his son but with this big question before him. And that interview last night has a lot of people asking is Joe Biden essentially telling us that he isn't there, he doesn't have it right now, that he's not running? What are you wearing?

LUIS NAVARRO, JOE BIDEN'S 2008 PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN MANAGER: Well, I think the secret to the vice president is what you see is what you get. And he is clearly dealing with a tragedy that is the worst nightmare of any parent and having to do so in a very public way, but he has done so with grace and with humility. And I think that he articulated it quite well in terms of his appearance last night, that he even empathizes all the more with people who have faced even greater struggles and don't have the kind of support that he obviously enjoys as vice president. So I think what you saw last night is the vice president at his -- as he is.

BOLDUAN: And, look, on both sides of the aisle, you hear people say they have looked to Joe Biden as a source of strength in difficult times dealing with pain. He's a pillar for so many in these types of situations. But you say here is a guy you have to listen to, and you take him at his word when he says something. So I watch what he said last night, and at a minimum, at a minimum what he was telling me last night was that if he had to decide today, he wouldn't run.

NAVARRO: Well, I think there have been articles in which it has been written that the vice president himself has said things and I think he clearly articulated that last night that he has good days and bad days, and I think this is why, you know, making this decision is going to be deeply personal, and, you know, he also indicated that he wants to be able to -- you know, that anyone who would choose to make such a decision needs to be able to have a clear idea as to what they intend to do as well as giving 110 percent. I'm confident that the vice president would be able to easily address the first, but, you know, again, I think he is clearly dealing with the latter, and that is that will be the key to this decision.

[11:40:19] BOLDUAN: But, Luis, you not only know Joe Biden so well, you know Jill Biden so well, and she is crucial in this decision. What would you advise him right now on what to do, and knowing him and knowing where they are in their grieving process?

NAVARRO: Oh, I wouldn't presume to provide advice, certainly not in a forum like this. What I think is the case is that they will make a decision together. They'll make it as part of a family, which is at the core of who the vice president is and always has been, and I think that, you know, whatever choice he chooses to make, he will do so only if he is absolutely confident that it is the best choice not only for the country but also for his family.

BOLDUAN: And he says he's not confident right now. I mean, that's for sure, he's not confident right now.

BOLDUAN: Every day can be different in that whole process.

Luis, it's great having you on. Thanks so much.

NAVARRO: Thank you.

BOLDUAN: All right. Coming up next, what a wonderful game it was. The New England Patriots, they won the season debut on their home field convincingly, but what --

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BOLDUAN: A little bit of help maybe?

BOLDUAN: What do we have now? We have sour grapes. Teams complaining, oh, my headset didn't work. I was getting a radio station.

BOLDUAN: Oh, I couldn't have this classic thing required to run a football team.

BOLDUAN: So is this for real or is this just more anti-Patriot whining? We'll discuss.

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[11:45:30] BOLDUAN: Another game, another controversy surrounding the Patriots. The season opener -- I get such a kick out of these. I could read them all day long. Right, guys? The season opener was a win for the Patriots but, off the field, not so much. The Steelers head coach, Mike Tomlin, said that he and the other coaches were hearing Patriots radio in their headsets for the first 14 minutes of the game. It was so loud that they couldn't communicate.

After the game, reporters asked Tomlin about this issue and here is what Tomlin said.

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MIKE TOMLIN, PITTSBURGH STEELERS COACH: It's always the case.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Here?

TOMLIN: Yes. We were listening to the Patriots radio broadcast for the majority of the first half on our headsets.

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BOLDUAN: Look, the Patriots radio broadcast could have called better plays than he called in the first half!

BOLDUAN: That's not what the teleprompter said.

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BOLDUAN: The NFL, which controls the headsets, issued this statement, "The Pittsburgh coaches experienced serious interference with their headsets caused by a stadium power infrastructure issue, which was exacerbated by the inclement weather." There are a lot of big words in this statement. "Once the power issue was addressed, the equipment functioned properly with no additional issues."

Joining us now by phone from Boston, from the New England Sports Network, radio host, TV host, Dale Arnold.

Dale, thank you so much for being with us.

Dale, I have to tell you, when I heard these allegations, my first thought was come on. Do you really think with the whole world watching, the whole world except for you and I, Dale, essentially saying the Patriots were cheaters, that they would go and screw around with the radio headsets?

DALE ARNOLD, RADIO & TV HOST, NEW ENGLAND SPORTS NETWORK: It's nice to talk to John, representing the six New England states, and Kate, representing the rest of America on this deal.

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The fact of the matter is you're right. Even if the Patriots were of a mind to do this sort of thing, and they're not, this would probably be the single dumbest time to do it in the history of football. Patriot fans are feeling put upon. Patriots Coach Bill Belichick, uncharacteristically, addressed things like this, this morning, during his conference call. He's mad. He's fed up with that.

Quite honestly, Mike Tomlin ought to have asked his offensive coordinator and asked about the Antonio Brown option pass in the first quarter when they were steamrolling the Patriots, and get better communication with his offensive coordinator.

BOLDUAN: That's what I'm talking about.

BOLDUAN: That's not what I'm talking about. This is what I'm talking about. On the Steelers' official website, Dale, they even go as for to write about that, strangely enough, whenever the NFL representative went over to the New England sideline to tell them to shut off their headsets -- I didn't know there was a rule that had to do with that -- if you can't hear, the other team should take their headsets off. The Steelers' headsets would miraculously clear up and then, as the representatives would walk away from the sideline, the Steelers headsets would once again hear the Patriots' radio. It's on the Internet, Dale, so it must be true.

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ARNOLD: I watch CNN a fair amount. I know a little bit about how CNN would source stories. And I assuming they did a little more sourcing for this story than what the Steelers website offered up, which was rumor, innuendo, no source, no quote. And I'm sort of wondering if somebody made it up to be honest with you.

BOLDUAN: Dale, just confirm to me, who won the game?

ARNOLD: Let me just think here, 28, Patriots -- oh, yeah, the Patriots won. Four touchdown passes, Tom Brady. Three touchdown catches, Rob Gronkowski. I assume, all because the Steelers couldn't communicate properly.

BOLDUAN: That's right. Those headsets blew all that coverage.

BOLDUAN: I'm just saying all the guys on the floor, they can't hear because their headsets are hearing your radio show. It's really crazy. I don't know what's going on.

(LAUGHTER)

BOLDUAN: Dale Arnold, thank you for being with us.

(LAUGHTER)

ARNOLD: All right, guys.

BOLDUAN: Thank you so much.

Coming up for us, Donald Trump rising in support among women. Hillary Clinton seeing a drop in support.

And right now, Carly Fiorina, the rival whose face Donald Trump criticized, she is speaking live for the first time since then, since his latest jab. Is she going to jab back? Oh, we'll see.

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[11:53:22] BOLDUAN: Being a new parent, no easy task. That's without having to worry if you can afford the essentials.

BOLDUAN: But nearly 30 percent of parents in America, they can't afford diapers. Today's "CNN Hero" is trying to change that.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Go!

(SHOUTING)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm a single mother. Providing for my children is a struggle. Diapers are super expensive. Making sure that my children have everything and wanting to provide for them really does cause anxiety.

CORINNE CANNON, CNN HERO: Diapers are very challenging. They are not covered by food stamps. They're not covered by other social service programs.

When I had my first child, I was amazed at how hard it was to care for a newborn. It's emotionally exhausting. It's physically exhausting.

When things started to ease up, I wanted to help other moms. I started calling organizations and I heard over and over again, "We need diapers." I was heartbroken because I started thinking about how difficult it would be to be that mom who didn't have the diaper.

(LAUGHTER)

CANNON: We have donated nearly two million diapers to families in the D.C. area. We partner with organizations who are helping families.

A lot of our families are at a breaking point. We're using diapers as a way to engage with social services for other needs, let them know there is a network that will help them and support them.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Here's your diapers.

Receiving dinners means there's one less thing I have to worry about.

We can use these!

It allows me to put more money towards other things that are beneficial for my children.

CANNON: Knowing that we're able to help moms at a critical point in their life, being able to bring them a little relief is huge. I want them to have everything they need to thrive.

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[11:55:16] BOLDUAN: Did you see that little face? So cute.

To nominate a hero -- and there are so many -- please go to CNNheros.com and let us know.

BOLDUAN: We'll be right back.

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BOLDUAN: Republican presidential candidate, Carly Fiorina, speaking right now in Arizona.

BOLDUAN: You will remember Donald Trump talked about her face. Well, just moments ago, Carly Fiorina seemed to make a comment that appeared to be a little bit of a jab at Donald Trump. Listen.

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CARLY FIORINA, (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE & FORMER CEO, HEWLETT- PACKARD: We need a president who understands what leadership is. Leadership is not about the size of your office, the size of your airplane, the size of your helicopter. It's not about your title. It's not about your ego. Leadership is about service.

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BOLDUAN: There's only one candidate with his own airplane and helicopter.

BOLDUAN: That would be one Donald J. Trump. It's "J." Right?

BOLDUAN: Donald J. Trump, that's right.

BOLDUAN: I just want to make sure.

That's maybe a little preview of what we'll be hearing less than a week from now on Wednesday. CNN's debate coming up in California, 6:00 p.m., 8:00 p.m. eastern.

I'm looking forward to seeing what Carly Fiorina has to say when she is on state just podiums away from Donald Trump.

BOLDUAN: Thanks so much for joining us AT THIS HOUR.