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King Charles III Held First Audience With New British Prime Minister; Texas DPS Chief Rejects Claims Of Cover-up In Uvalde Massacre Probe; Queen Elizabeth II Through The Years. Aired 11:30a-12p ET
Aired September 09, 2022 - 11:30 ET
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KATE BOLDUAN, CNN HOST: The new refrain across Great Britain is now Long Live the King. Just a short time ago, we saw the newly ascended King Charles III greeting mourners outside Buckingham Palace, his first time back as king. He will soon address the country. And we've also just learned that the king has held his first meeting with Britain's new prime minister. Let's go over to CNN's Salma Abdelaziz. She's live outside 10 Downing Street with more on this. Salma, what are we learning about this meeting?
SALMA ABDELAZIZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: So, we just learned, Kate, that this meeting seems to have concluded now, this private audience between the new prime minister, Prime Minister Liz Truss, and of course, the new King. And you can expect in that meeting that there was a great deal of reassurance given. This is a country that's gone through a profound change this week, a new prime minister, the loss of the Queen, and the new monarch. And this would be the second conversation we understand to have been held between the prime minister and the new king since the Queen's death. She spoke yesterday about a phone call between them. Take a listen to what she told the parliament today.
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LIZ TRUSS, BRITISH PRIME MINISTER: I was grateful to speak to His Majesty last night and offer my condolences. Even as he mourns, his sense of duty and service is clear.
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ABDELAZIZ: And what you can expect to happen in that meeting is a promise to continue the very important relationship, Kate, between the monarchy and the office just behind me here, 10 Downing Street. You hear over and over again that the Queen is apolitical, that she's above the fray, that she's a constitutional monarch who is not involved in political decisions, but she has always shaped deeply and informed with her wealthy experience the prime minister's that work here, Kate.
BOLDUAN: It's good to see you, Salma. Thank you so much for that. Joining me now for more on this is Laura Beers.
She's a professor of British history and politics at American University. Laura, thank you for coming in. As Salma was just laying out, King Charles, and Liz Truss meeting just now, I mean it is really quite a moment considering both the king and the prime minister are new to their roles, and both just started in the same week. I mean how do you reflect on that?
LAURA BEERS, HISTORY PROFESSOR, AMERICAN UNIVERSITY: Well, it's a huge transition. And the Queen's death comes with a real moment in crisis in British politics more broadly, there's a cost of living crisis, of fuel crisis, a new prime minister who's attempting to establish her own legitimacy, both in Parliament and with the public, and a new king, who similarly will have to establish his legitimacy as he replaces Britain's longest-serving monarch, and someone who was very much beloved to the -- by the British people.
BOLDUAN: And looking ahead to King Charles and the type of king he will be, the type of leader who will be, I want to look back and play part of a speech from Queen Elizabeth that she gave to the UN General Assembly back in 2010. And it speaks to kind of her approach to world affairs.
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QUEEN ELIZABETH II, MONARCH OF ENGLAND: Peace is the hardest form of leadership of all. I know of no single formula for success. But over the years, I have observed that some attributes of leadership are universal and are often about finding ways of encouraging people to combine their efforts, their talents, their insights, their enthusiasm, and that inspiration to work together.
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BOLDUAN: I think that kind of just showed alongside, I guess, the pope, that she was kind of the most well-known A-political figure in the world for so long. Do you think King Charles can do the same effectively? I mean, this is a different time and he has been in the public eye longer as a royal before taking over the throne.
BEERS: As well, Queen Vic -- Queen Elizabeth was -- she was head of state in Britain, which will not a political role, is very much a ceremonial role and a human role, right? So, she had met all about one of the past 15 U.S. presidents, she'd met with leaders across Europe and throughout the Commonwealth. And during her time as queen, the Empire transformed radically into a -- you know, a British Center and the colonial periphery into an equal Commonwealth of Nations. And she helped to foster the cohesion of that political entity.
And that emphasis on peace, which she made in her speech, which, you know, in some ways, you can understand the importance of peace to her having been born before the Second World War and coming to power shortly after as Britain was trying to rebuild new peaceable relationships around the globe. So, it's a tall order for King Charles to follow in her footsteps. And he'll have a lot of work to do because he doesn't have those relationships cemented over decades of diplomacy with many world leaders that his mother had established.
But this is a kind of honeymoon period for King Charles. And if he seizes on it and capitalizes on it, hopefully, he can move forward. And you know, the public, I think, more broadly, has been dubious about Prince Charles, but maybe in this -- the aftermath of the Queen stuff they can come to embrace King Charles.
BOLDUAN: We've heard so many statistics and ways to mark just how long her reign was. The one that really has stuck with me is that her reign spanned nearly 30 percent of U.S. history. It's just kind of mind- blowing when you kind of think of it that way. But what does her passing now mean for not just the king but for the monarchy? I mean, do you think there is a greater question today about the health and sustainability of the monarchy without her?
BEERS: I think there is. Probably less than Britain, then in those Commonwealth nations, those 14 other Commonwealth nations that still have the king as their monarch. So, recently, Barbados transitioned from a monarchy to a republic, Jamaica has announced that it's making a similar transition. No other countries, you know, have expressed an intent to leave the monarchy or to abandon the monarchy.
But Australia held a referendum in 1999 about whether or not to become a republic and 45 percent of people voted then that Australia would be better off as a republic. And that was during Queen Elizabeth's tenure and she is more popular with the Australian people according to public opinion data than King Charles has been as Prince. Similarly, in Canada, there's about a 50-50 split about whether or not Canada should continue with a monarch. So, I think in a Commonwealth context, it's a much bigger question than within Britain proper about whether King Charles and the monarchy can hold together in this new era.
BOLDUAN: Yes. It's great to have you on. Thank you, Laura, very much. Coming up for us --
BEERS: Thanks so much.
BOLDUAN: A CNN exclusive report on the investigation into the Uvalde School massacre with the state's top law enforcement officers recorded saying privately versus what he is telling the public.
BOLDUAN: So, people from around the world continue to pay respects to Queen Elizabeth who died yesterday at the age of 96, among those offering their condolences, President Biden. And we've just learned from White House aides are making initial preparations for President Biden to travel to London to attend the funeral of the Queen. But sources also say aides only plan to announce his attendance after the palace reveals its plans for the funeral. And in less than 90 minutes, the new king will address the country and the world for his first public speech since his mother's passing. We will be bringing that to you here when it happens. We sure well.
But right now, let's turn to another important story that I want to get to at this hour. In exclusive new CNN reporting out of Texas, the state's top law enforcement officer Steven McCraw, he's rejecting claims of a cover-up in the investigation into the Uvalde massacre. He also denies saying that nobody's going to be losing their job over this. CNN's Shimon Prokupecz is live with this exclusive reporting. Shimon, tell us more.
SHIMON PROKUPECZ, CNN CRIME & JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT: Yes. So, Kate, this all stems from comments that the director made a couple of weeks ago at a captain's meeting, an internal meeting with officials from the Texas Department of Public Safety, which is raising concerns over whether or not he made up his mind already about the investigation and what sort of punishment some of these officers who responded to the school, officers from the Department of Public Safety, what kind of punishment they should face, and whether or not any of them would lose their jobs. And this memo comes from us -- comes to us from people inside the Department of Public Safety who are raising issues. People I have talked to who are now raising issues with some of these comments. The director, we spoke to him yesterday, he denies making these comments and he specifically says he was referring to one person specifically.
But I have that memo. So let me read to you what it says. And this was from August 15 to 16 at a captain's meeting where he says oh -- and oh, by the way, no one is losing their jobs. That is how what he says is recorded in this memo. And he then says quite the contrary, all leaders in region three, which is the area that covers Uvalde, did what they were supposed to do and have stepped up to meet the moment. The director denies making these comments. We caught up with him yesterday. Take a listen to what he said.
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PROKUPECZ: These comments, you're not denying that you made it? I mean this is your memorandum, sir, I could show it.
STEVEN MCCRAW, DIRECTOR, TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY: No, it's not a memorandum. It's someone went --
PROKUPECZ: It's a minute.
PROKUPECZ: It's kind of a minute.
MCCRAW: If someone took my minutes, so yes.
PROKUPECZ: No? But you've seen this.
MCCRAW: I have not.
PROKUPECZ: See you haven't seen your own words.
MCCRAW: I haven't seen -- no, I haven't seen the minutes. This was done by the (INAUDIBLE).
PROKUPECZ: But do you know -- why? But you know what you said. I mean --
MCCRAW: I know I got to what I said. Yes, minutes, that's correct. That's also correct.
PROKUPECZ: And you said no one is losing their jobs.
MCCRAW: No, I didn't say that.
PROKUPECZ: You're denying that you said that.
MCCRAW: I'm denying that I said that.
PROKUPECZ: You're denying that you said that no one will lose their job?
MCCRAW: Look, they said (INAUDIBLE) not losing his job. Go ahead.
PROKUPECZ: Just Victor Escalon?
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PROKUPECZ: So he's referring to Victor Escalon. He is, of course, the DPS regional director who spoke in the days after the shooting. He's in charge of many of the DPS officers for that region. Of course, you know, Kate, I've spoken to some family members this morning, I've spoken to people inside the Department of Public Safety who are raising a lot of concern over what was said at this captain's meeting, and there's concern still, that there is this cover-up.
Of course, the director denies that there's any kind of cover-up and that he's protecting anybody. He says he's still waiting for the investigation to finish. And, of course, he also says, Kate, importantly, is that he will release information once the district attorney finishes her investigation.
BOLDUAN: Stay at it, Shimon. Thank you so much. Coming up still for us. She was one of the most photographed people ever. A look at the image of Queen Elizabeth through the decades, that's next but first, so many of us wake up still tired even after a full night's sleep. Dr. Sanjay Gupta is here to help. What you can do to optimize your energy levels in today's "CHASING LIFE."
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BOLDUAN: And before we go, Queen Elizabeth, one of the most photographed people in history. CNN's Nick Glass has more.
NICK GLASS, CNN REPORTER-AT-LARGE: Once upon a time in a story we had forgotten or some never knew, there was a beautiful young princess. At the age of just 27, she was crowned the queen in a fairy tale ceremony. Long before anyone had heard of Katherine or Diana, there was Elizabeth, a star from the very beginning and a regal unflagging presence in our lives ever since.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Looking at the visual images of the Queen across 60 years is an extraordinary thing to do. And I think she is the most visually represented human being ever to have existed in the entire history of the world. I cannot think who the (INAUDIBLE) is. So that of itself is utterly extraordinary.
GLASS: Alongside, of course, all that pageantry and solemnity that comes with being a British Monarch and, of course, the occasional revelation that it's raining outside.
QUEEN ELIZABETH: How surprising.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think her humanity really comes through in a lot of these photographs, and also her amazing ability to engage with people.
GLASS: The formal image of a fairytale princess was established early by Cecil Beaton.
SUSANNA BROWN, CURATOR, QUEEN ELIZABETH II BY CECIL BEATON: He was very keen to place her in that long and great tradition of fairy tale queens and princesses. And so he uses these beautiful backdrops based on well-known Rococo paintings.
GLASS: Time Magazine put her on the front cover at age three. And again in 1947, a Diamond Princess about to turn 21, they simply couldn't get enough of her. Her face and her story sold magazines and books.
PAUL MOORHOUSE, CURATOR, THE QUEEN: ART & IMAGE: There was an awful lot of attention on her. I mean, we associate this with Princess Diana, we associate it with Kate Middleton now, but we forget that our queen went through exactly the same process.
Nick Glass, CNN, London.
BOLDUAN: Thank you so much for watching. I'm Kate Bolduan. CNN's special coverage of the passing of Queen Elizabeth II begins right after this.