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Plane En Route to Manchester Makes Forced Landing; Parts of 747 Fall From Air; New Video of Horrific London Killing; Journalist Goes Undercover to Expose Sexism in Egypt; Soccer Popular in Europe; Bridge Collapses in Skigit County, Washington

Aired May 24, 2013 - 12:30   ET

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SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN ANCHOR: We're watching two big stories today that effect the airline industry, air travel as well. Both of them are in Britain.

MICHAEL HOLMES, CNN ANCHOR: Yeah, we're getting some details now to make things a bit clearer about that forced landing of a flight from Pakistan a short time ago. It was a diversion. It was a normal landing.

We're talking about Stansted Airport. You see it there, the plane on the ground. This is just north of London about 200 miles from the original destination of Manchester.

It's a Pakistan International Airlines jet, almost 300 people on board, 297. It was diverted, told to land after an in-flight incident involving a couple of passengers.

MALVEAUX: Richard Quest is joining us from London. So, tell us about this incident, Richard. What actually happened on the plane?

RICHARD QUEST, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: That's a very good question. So far that we can establish, the flight attendant told the captain that there had been an incident, according to this, the air stewardess contacted the pilot who contacted air traffic control who then scrambled the fighter jets.

Now the nature of the incident and what actually had taken place is still far from clear, but two people as a result have been arrested and they're to be charged with offenses concerning endangering an aircraft.

Now that can range the gamut. Did they make threats concerning -- there were suggestions that they -- there are rumors that they may have made allegations of bomb threats. Were they just being raucous? We're waiting to find out.

The situation at the moment, and it is quite serious because it's not every day that you scramble fighter jets at the request of a pilot, and certainly so late in the flight, Michael, but what we do know, two people arrested, passengers on the ground, plane safe, everybody carries on with their journey except the two passengers, tomorrow. And the flight will then go back to Pakistan the day after.

MALVEAUX: Richard, did they believe there was a bomb on the plane? Is that why they responded in such a serious way?

QUEST: That's a good question. No one really knows. That part is still remarkably unclear.

Whether or not there was a threat and, if there was, was it a credible threat, lots of reports, lots of rumors about what the different passengers say. Some say they heard a bomb threat being made. Other people say other things.

All we know is that there were these two passengers. And at this point, and you know we always talk about not speculating -- at this point, that core fact is best left unsaid.

HOLMES: Richard, the other airline story out of your neck of the woods, dramatic pictures of that B.A. flight, British Airways, that gave passengers a bit of a fright.

We're going to show you the video first and then ask you what went on.

QUEST: It's spewing smoke. That was after takeoff. The plane took off, flew around and then landed again.

Now, we know from those pictures it was the right engine that seemed to be having the trouble.

And then all of a sudden we get this video from inside the aircraft taken from a passenger looking outside the window, and you can now see it's the left engine that's got the cover missing.

And when you look at pictures of the aircraft side-by-side, you realize that both engines have the covers missing. The cowling has been lost.

And so the question tonight, and I've asked British Airways -- they're not commenting -- I've asked the air accident investigation board. They've said that they won't put out anymore statements.

You're left with the question, was this a single-engine event or a multi-engine event? And we don't know the answer to that either.

MALVEAUX: Nick, what do we think of the passengers? How did they react to all of this? They must have been pretty frightened by all of it.

QUEST: I suspect -- we know that they heard noises on the aircraft, but judging by the picture of the plane coming in to land, I'm guessing that by the time the final landing happened, they will have noticed very little difference.

Landing a plane on one engine is the single most practiced act of captains and first officers. They do it in their training. They do it in their type rating. They do it in their six-monthly SIM checks.

Losing an engine on takeoff and having to do a go-round and come back again at some haste is one of those things that's well practiced.

And also modern-day aircraft, the 320-series, as indeed the 73-series is built with avionics that help the pilots in those situations.

HOLMES: Yeah, a bit scary, as you say, both engines lose cowlings. I hope we can find out what happened.

QUEST: Well, let's be clear. Every time I talk to you on one of these things I suddenly get flamed by everybody talking about rampant speculation, and what are you talking about, and what do we know, and why do you say this?

So we always have to caveat it, but the caveat here is that nobody is talking, but the evidence suggests two engines.

HOLMES: Yeah, well, you can see there's stuff missing off both of them. You'll find out. I know you will. You're a man not normally given to caveats, but we thank you for that one.

MALVEAUX: And we won't let him get flamed. It's OK, Richard. You won't get flamed from this report.

HOLMES: Yeah, put Suzanne onto them. That'll stop that.

Richard Quest, always a pleasure.

MALVEAUX: So this is a close call. This is kind of strange, but this happened in Atlanta. Actually pieces of an airplane, people who live near the Atlanta airport, a very busy international airport, they got a real scare. This was a couple days ago.

Parts of a 747, right, falling into the neighborhood, can you imagine that?

HOLMES: This is not what you want to happen.

Now that house there was hit by a chunk of wing that apparently tore off a China airlines cargo plane that was landing nearby. The piece of metal went all the way through the roof. Not surprising really.

Nobody hurt thank goodness, but people in the neighborhood, well, they keep looking up.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We do get lots of, I mean, probably at least 100 planes a day coming over our house. So for something to fall, it is pretty -- it's devastating because we have kids that play in the area.

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MALVEAUX: That is amazing. I travel that airport all the time. I can only imagine, the neighborhood around there, how scared people are.

Every once in a while this happens. Investigators trying to figure out what actually made those pieces of the plane come off. Another chunk of the wing actually landed in a store parking lot. That was just a couple miles away.

HOLMES: That could ruin your day.

All right. OK, three women stand up to the suspected killers of the British soldier that was brutally killed in London. How they reportedly tried to protect the victim.

MALVEAUX: And even confronted the armed man.

You're going to hear from one of these heroic women, up next.

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MALVEAUX: Police in London have three people in custody today connected to that horrific daylight killing. This is of that British soldier, just awful to see this.

Two of those suspects are seen in the video here with knives and what appears to be the blood of the victim on their hands.

HOLMES: Yeah, chilling video, isn't it?

This was taken before London police arrived. Some people are complaining about the response time, by the way. It shows one of the suspected killers, the dead soldier in the background there in the street, and the other suspect over the road.

Now, at least three women from the neighborhood actually interacted with the killers.

MALVEAUX: Today, they are actually telling this chilling story about their interaction with them.

Atika Shubert is in London with the story.

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ATIKA SHUBERT, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The video shaky and brief, shot by an eyewitness. It shows three women who each in their own way stood up to the two young men who hacked a British soldier to death.

First, an unidentified woman, kneeling down by the victim's body, apparently praying.

Then in this video, she is standing with another woman, confronting the blood-soaked killers.

It was perhaps what prompted one of the attackers to say this.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I apologize women had to witness this today, but in our land, our women have to see the same.

You people will never be safe. Remove your government. They don't care about you. SHUBERT: It was a surreal scene.

Many eyewitnesses initially thought it was a road accident including Cub Scout leader and mom Ingrid Loyay-Kennett. She jumped down from her bus to offer first aid before realizing the full horror of what had happened.

She spoke to Britain's ITV News.

INGRID LOYAY-KENNETT, WITNESS: I could see (inaudible) a butcher's knife and do know this axe that butchers have to cut?

Yeah, that's what you had, and blood you have all over him. And I thought what the heck? What happened there?

And I thought, OK. Obviously, I was a bit excited and the thing was just to talk to him.

SHUBERT: In this photo, Loyay-Kennett can be seen attempting to talk with one of the suspects even as he clutches a meat cleaver in his bloodied hands.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Were you not scared for yourself in that situation?

LOYAY-KENNETT: No.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why not?

LOYAY-KENNETT: Better me than the child because, unfortunately, there were more and more mothers with children stopping around by, so it was even more and more important that I talk to him and then ask him what he wanted because I thought, well, usually they want something.

SHUBERT: It was a moment of instinctive courage at a scene of terrible bloodshed.

Atika Shubert, CNN, Woolwich, London.

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MALVEAUX: Unbelievable.

HOLMES: Yeah, very brave ladies. Yeah.

All right, coming up, you'll find this story really interesting. You've got a team of journalists going undercover to see what it is like to be a woman in Egypt.

MALVEAUX: That is right. They claim that sexual harassment is epidemic there, so they dressed as a man and then like a woman just to see how bad it really is.

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MALVEAUX: All right. This is a really interesting story. A TV production crew goes undercover to expose the sexual harassment of women.

HOLMES: Yes. Now, this happened in Egypt, the crew resorting to some unusual tactics. Reza Sayah explains.

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REZA SAYAH, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It took four hours and layers of cosmetics to make actor Waleed Hammad look like a woman.

WALEED HAMMAD, ACTOR: They had to pluck my eyebrows and shave my arms.

SAYAH (voice-over): The mission, for a group of investigative journalists to go undercover and expose what they call an epidemic of sexual harassment that torments Egyptian women every day.

LENA EL GHADBAN, SHOW HOST: We wanted men, those men, to feel how it would feel like to be the target of whether it's words, it's looks, you know, someone walking after you.

HAMMAD: Anything I can do to help make people be more aware of this problem, I was like, yes, yes.

SAYAH (voice-over): With hidden cameras recording his every move, Waleed, now looking the part, hits the streets of Cairo. Within minutes it starts.

HAMMAD: It's like I'm under a microscope.

SAYAH (voice-over): Stares, sexual advances, offers of money for sex, even when Waleed puts on an Islamic veil.

HAMMAD: Some of them were mild, like, hey, pretty face or something. Or like in a very sugar-coated way it's like, you know, let's kind of have some fun. I want to sleep with you tonight.

SAYAH (voice-over): But then things take a dangerous turn.

SAYAH: Tell me about this guy. He kept following you.

HAMMAD: Yes, that's the one that kept following me for 45 minutes.

SAYAH (voice-over): No matter where Waleed goes, the man follows. When Waleed ignores his plea for a date, the man gets aggressive.

SAYAH: Ultimately he grabbed you.

HAMMAD: He grabbed my arm and he put -- that's -- yes, that's it.

SAYAH: You were scared?

HAMMAD: Yes, yes. Like I didn't know what he was going to do. And then at the end he's like he's looking right into my eyes it's like you have to give me your number, you have to let me take you out.

SAYAH (voice-over): This hidden camera experiment was a joint project by private TV channel ONTV and Cairo-based Belail Productions, a group of Egyptian activists and filmmakers.

SAYAH: The two partners say the best way to take on the toughest problems in post-revolution Egypt is to do good old-fashioned investigative journalism and put it on TV.

ALI BELAIL, BELAIL PRODUCTIONS: Television in Egypt in journalism has just only begun to scratch the surface in terms of the content that's possible.

SAYAH (voice-over): Belail and ONTV have tackled social issues and government corruption, but none of their shows created more buzz than when they dressed a man as a woman.

GHADBAN: The target for us was, what if men felt what women felt like?

SAYAH (voice-over): Waleed says the stress and fear he felt walking the streets as a woman...

HAMMAD: I, as a man, I can't imagine living my life like that every single day.

SAYAH (voice-over): -- is something he wouldn't wish on anyone -- Reza Sayah, CNN, Cairo.

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MALVEAUX: Big problem in Cairo.

HOLMES: Very big problem in Cairo, happening a lot. They're calling it an epidemic of sexual harassment. Very physical stuff too, not just comments.

All right. We're going to switch gears. When we come back, we're going to take a look at one of the biggest sporting events in the world, it's bigger than the Super Bowl. Yes, I'm going to call it football. You're going to call it soccer, right?

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MALVEAUX: (Inaudible) calling it soccer.

HOLMES: All right. We'll be back.

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MALVEAUX: All right. We got a quick quiz for you. What is the biggest sporting event of the year? Is it the Super Bowl?

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HOLMES: No, no, it is not. The most watched -- this is the most watched game of the year. It's called football; here you say soccer, football for the rest of the world. Here's Amanda Davies.

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AMANDA DAVIES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The Champions League final is big business in any language. There's big sporting events and then there's this.

JOHN TERRY, CHELSEA CAPTAIN: (Inaudible) competition that won (inaudible) before the game you hear that music and from a very on edge, it gives you goose bumps on the back of your neck.

OWEN HARGREAVES, FORMER BAYERN MUNICH PLAYER: I was so proud to have the opportunity to present myself kind of to a whole new audience and play. And I dreamed of that opportunity as a kid.

JAKUB BLASZCZYKOWSKI, BORUSSIA DORTMUND WINGER (through translator): As a young boy, I never dreamed that I would be playing in a match like this.

DAVIES (voice-over): It's not just the players who love it either. About 177 million people around the globe watched last year's decider between Chelsea and Bayern Munich, compared to 108 million watching February's Super Bowl.

It may be a Europe-wide competition, but from 52 countries represented at the start, it's only Germany left standing. After a season slugging it out in the Bundesliga, Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund now go head-to-head on the biggest stage to be crowned the first German winners in 12 years.

PROF. SIMON CHADWICK, COVENTRY UNIVERSITY BUSINESS SCHOOL: Bayern Munich was already well-known of one of the top five football clubs in the world. Borussia Dortmund is really back on stage after their '97 victory in the Champions League. In 2005 they were so close to filing for bankruptcy. And right now this is a great comeback story.

DAVIES (voice-over): Bayern have already added the German League trophy league to their cabinet this season, but they have got a score to settle after defeat in two of the last three finals. For both teams there's more than just domestic rivalry and prestige at stake. There's enough money to make you rise water. The estimated gross commercial revenue of the competition is $1.7 billion with the winning team taking home about $46 million, as well as a sizable amount for TV revenue.

CHRISTIAN SEIFERT, CEO, BUNDESLIGA: Clearly when you come to renegotiate TV contracts, you renegotiate sponsorship contracts, if you've won the Champions League, you can charge a premium. There very often -- there's a bounceback in terms of an impact on the whole city, the feel-good factor, you've got people buying TVs and takeaway pizzas and beer and this kind of thing. So I think -- as I say, if you take 100 million euros as a benchmark and work from there, and clearly it's a huge phenomenon.

DAVIES: Throw in 86,000 fans and one of the greatest stadiums in the world here at Wembley and the stage is all set for the battle for that trophy, Old Big Ears, to unfold. As its designer once said, it may not be an artistic masterpiece, but everyone in football wants to get their hands on it.

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MALVEAUX: Wow.

HOLMES: Wow, Amanda Davies. It's a huge game. It's going to be very exciting. You'll be watching.

MALVEAUX: Oh, yes, sure. I'll go to a sports bar. I'll try to catch a little bit of it.

HOLMES: Whatever happens Germany will win, because they're the only clubs playing. It's great stuff. Good stuff. Very exciting.

MALVEAUX: All right. As we mentioned, a bridge collapse --

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MALVEAUX (voice-over): -- this was in Washington State; it was deemed obsolete, but usable. And there are more bridges that fall under that very category. So coming up, a look at this growing problem.

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MALVEAUX: He's everywhere. We're talking -- somebody we've all been talking about, Anthony Bourdain, in the show that people have been watching, "PARTS UNKNOWN."

HOLMES: I love it. I love it, love it. This weekend you can enjoy a Bourdain marathon.

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HOLMES (voice-over): Too much Bourdain is never enough. There is no such thing. The exotic travels of Anthony Bourdain take him all over the world. I remember the one we did, we spoke to him about, Libya.

MALVEAUX (voice-over): Oh, yes. It's so much fun because he eats all kinds of food, he takes you to different restaurants, he explores all kinds of aspects of the culture, including some hip-hop as well as tradition as well, sampling the world's foods all over the place. Good stuff.

HOLMES (voice-over): It's food, but it's also about a window on the country, isn't it? Meets interesting people, shows you the cultural stuff. And on Sunday of course you are going to be able to see what you've been missing if you haven't caught all of them, which is unforgivable.

MALVEAUX (voice-over): There is your opportunity here. Yep, it is a marathon. Anthony Bourdain's incredible travels again with the best of PARTS UNKNOWN." It's a good way to actually spend your weekend, catching up on all the good stuff.

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HOLMES: Exactly. That marathon is this Sunday 8:00 pm Eastern right here on CNN. I may watch it. I've seen them all anyway, but I might just watch them again.

MALVEAUX: Watch them again. It's going to be a great weekend.

HOLMES: It is.

MALVEAUX: All right. Thanks for watching AROUND THE WORLD.

HOLMES: Yes, "CNN NEWSROOM" starts right now with Wolf. Thank you.

MALVEAUX: Have a good weekend.

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WOLF BLITZER, CNN HOST (voice-over): A white flash and cold water, that's how one man describes his experience. His car fell off a collapsing bridge. We'll have a live report from Washington State.

And it's not over yet; a lot of us thought the high courtroom drama the Jodi Arias trial would be ending this week. Guess what? We were wrong. What's next in the case?