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The Lead with Jake Tapper
Continuing Coverage of George Zimmerman Trial
Aired June 26, 2013 - 16:00 ET
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JAKE TAPPER, CNN ANCHOR: Welcome to THE LEAD. I'm Jake Tapper on this very busy news day.
We're continuing our live coverage of the George Zimmerman trial in the death of Trayvon Martin.
Rachel Jeantel, the young woman Martin was talking with in the last minutes of his life, is on the stand.
Let's go back to it now.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So this is...
(CROSSTALK)
RACHEL JEANTEL, FRIEND OF TRAYVON MARTIN: In truth, I didn't want to see somebody cry. I'm not the kind of person who wants to see people cry.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Of course.
JEANTEL: I'm not an emotional person, and her son dead.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So you knew then that when you had the meeting with Ms. Fulton that it would be a tough one for her?
JEANTEL: Yes, definitely to hear that I was the last one to even talk to her son.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Of course. Of course. You knew that she would be very interested to know because...
JEANTEL: Emotional.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And emotional. Because there were a lot more questions than answers that the point in the case, correct?
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So you wound up doing that. Am I correct, that you met with Ms. Fulton? And was that on March 19?
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And did you tell her generally what you knew about the event?
JEANTEL: I told her a little bit.
I just, when I saw her, I gave her the letter and she did not even open the letter. She just asked what happened. She just wanted to know what happened that night. And I had told her that Trayvon was being followed that night.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Were you trying to make it easy for her to understand?
JEANTEL: Yes. And then she opened the letter.
(CROSSTALK)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Were you using the words that Trayvon Martin spoke?
JEANTEL: What?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When you told her what happened, did you use the words that Trayvon Martin spoke?
JEANTEL: Being followed?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, about the...
JEANTEL: No.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You cleaned it up, in other words?
JEANTEL: Yes. He was just being followed.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You just said a man was following him.
JEANTEL: Yes. I didn't (INAUDIBLE) she had asked -- I didn't tell any detail. It just -- I just told her that she was being followed -- he was being followed.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And did you -- did you basically explain the short form...
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... the short version, that you had cleaned up the language and you had basically said he was being followed?
JEANTEL: That's it.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And then did you...
JEANTEL: That is it. He was just being followed.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And did you tell her that you thought it was just a fight?
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you tell her that Trayvon Martin had said white...
JEANTEL: No, I didn't tell her that.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But you told her that...
JEANTEL: I told her on the text -- not on the text, but the letter.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And the letter is something that you and your friend wrote down?
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And that was a letter that you thought you might be able to give to...
JEANTEL: That was plan A., to give it to her, because I didn't plan to see her, like, no. I didn't plan to see her. I just agreed. I just said, OK, I will just go and just gave her the letter.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is that partly why you didn't go to the memorial service was because you didn't want people there to know you were the last person and that you didn't want to talk to Ms. Fulton about that?
JEANTEL: When? The funeral? Why I didn't go to the funeral?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mm-hmm.
JEANTEL: I didn't want to see the body. I did agree with my friends to go. You got to understand.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: In order...
JEANTEL: You got to understand.
(CROSSTALK)
JEANTEL: You the last person to talk to the person and he died on the phone after you talk to him. You got to understand what I'm trying to tell you. I'm the last person. You don't know how I felt. You think I really want to go see the body after I just talked to him?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I understand what you're saying, but what you did instead was instead of saying...
JEANTEL: I did not even know he was out. I did not even watch -- I don't watch the news. I heard it was on local news. I did not know about that.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. I knew that it was emotionally difficult for you to decide whether or not to go to the memorial service.
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And you decided not to.
JEANTEL: I decided not to go.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sure. And then what you did in order to explain that to Ms. Fulton and then to Mr. De La Rionda under oath was that you created a lie and said that you had gone to the hospital?
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So when you told Ms. Fulton what was happening on this March 19 meeting, you told her that you had gone to the hospital? And that's why you didn't go to the funeral?
JEANTEL: Yes, I told her, yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And then you gave her the letter?
JEANTEL: I gave her a letter.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And had you agreed at that point to be interviewed by her attorney?
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And was your purpose at that point to do what you could do to assist so that George Zimmerman got arrested?
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And what you did then was you had a recorded telephone interview with the family attorney?
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You were supposed to see them in person. Is that right?
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But you didn't go or they changed the plan or why didn't you see them in person?
JEANTEL: They agreed that it would be better for them on the phone.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Who agreed?
JEANTEL: First, it was supposed to be in person. That's what she told me, meet somewhere else's place.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can you speak up?
JEANTEL: First, she told me in -- when I was about to leave to go to my friend's house.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And where were you supposed to meet them to have... JEANTEL: I don't even remember. I don't even remember.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Was it at a house?
JEANTEL: No.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Was it at a studio?
JEANTEL: I don't remember where.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Were you supposed to be recorded for television?
JEANTEL: No, I did not know about no television.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You didn't know that your interview was going to be recorded for broadcast?
JEANTEL: No.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So how did the plan change?
You thought it was going to be an in-person meeting, but then it turned out to be a telephone interview.
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Who told you that we're not going to do it in person; we're going to do it on the phone?
JEANTEL: I don't remember. It would have to be by Crump, I think.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did he give you a call and just say we have changed the plans?
JEANTEL: It was her number. It was her number. I think it was a three-way.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You believe there was a three-way conversation that included Ms. Fulton and Mr. Crump?
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And that Mr. Crump told you there's been a change of plans.
(CROSSTALK)
JEANTEL: Better for me to be recorded on the phone.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Before, the plan was that you would be in person, but you didn't know if there was any plan to actually record you?
JEANTEL: I did not know about the (INAUDIBLE) the ABC report?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right.
JEANTEL: No, I did not know about that.
Recording from Crump? Yes, I knew about that because he had told me, talk louder. This will be recorded. And I said yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So that -- was that something that was worked out in advance, that you knew you were going to be recorded and that there would be people there listening to the interview?
JEANTEL: The mother and the attorney and the father, yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So what the plan was for your interview with the family attorney was that you would be on the phone at one end and on the other end would be the family attorney who would be asking you the questions?
JEANTEL: Mm-hmm.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And Mr. Martin and Ms. Fulton would also be there?
JEANTEL: Mm-hmm.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you know anybody else would be there?
JEANTEL: No.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Nobody told you that a reporter from ABC News would be present?
JEANTEL: No.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Nobody told you that no police officers would be present?
JEANTEL: No. I didn't know.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Or other family members even?
JEANTEL: No.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So tell me how that came about then. This is on March 19, and you agree to be interviewed on the telephone.
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And you agreed to be recorded?
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Had you -- you had already told Ms. Fulton basically the short version of what had happened?
JEANTEL: Yes, I (INAUDIBLE)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Pardon me?
JEANTEL: He was being followed, the short version. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right, of course, and you gave her the letter.
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And on the three-way call with the family attorney, had you sort of briefed them as to the basics, including that you had gone to the hospital, instead of the wake? You lied to them?
JEANTEL: Meeting the mother before, she had asked did I -- why I had not went to the wake. And I -- tell her truth about not why I didn't go to the wake. So, I lie to her.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right.
(CROSSTALK)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And you weren't under oath.
JEANTEL: No.
And I knew she was -- she was on the phone with me and Crump. So she could have heard. She had asked me why I was not on -- why did I not go to the wake, and I had lied again and said, oh, I was at the hospital.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is that during the three-way call that you're talking about?
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And then you told Mr. Crump that you had lied -- no, I'm sorry, you told Mr. Crump that you had gone to the hospital instead of the wake, which was a lie?
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And you also lied and said that you were 16?
JEANTEL: I don't remember saying that. But I did tell them I did not want my age out.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you did -- did you say that you were 16 so that you could try to maintain more privacy?
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So you wanted to make yourself seem like a minor so that maybe there wouldn't be as much public disclosure, as if you said your true age of 18?
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So you told Ms. Fulton that you were 16?
JEANTEL: Yes. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you tell Mr. Crump that too?
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And you told both of them that you had gone to the hospital, instead of going to the wake?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Objection. Asked and answered.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Sustained.
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: May we approach?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I would like to make a speaking objection, so I would like to..
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You can't make an objection. It was a question.
You can't make an objection to your own question. You said you wanted to make a speaking objection. Do you want to respond?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Thank you.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, you may approach.
TAPPER: While the attorneys conference with Judge Nelson in the trial of George Zimmerman, I want to bring in CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin to talk about what's going on, on the stand today with this friend of Trayvon Martin, the last person to talk to him other than George Zimmerman, Rachel Jeantel.
The defense attorney, Don West, clearly trying to point out that she has told a number of lies, but I don't know that he's succeeding in completely painting her as not credible.
JEFFREY TOOBIN, CNN SENIOR LEGAL ANALYST: No, by no means.
She's a problematic witness, obviously. She's young. She's nervous. She doesn't speak very clearly at all. It's hard to understand a lot of what she says.
TAPPER: She mumbles a lot like a teenager.
TOOBIN: Right.
But her -- the core of her story is that she was on the phone right before Trayvon Martin was shot and he was complaining that there was this guy, this weird guy, this cracker, as she says.
TAPPER: Creepy.
(CROSSTALK) TOOBIN: This creepy "expletive" cracker following him around.
That part of her story is the key part. And I haven't heard anything that discredits her on cross-examination for part of the story, because it certainly portrays Zimmerman as the aggressor in the confrontation between the two of them. And that's the key issue in the whole case.
TAPPER: And the attorney cleanly trying to paint her as not credible, because she's told these two lies, one having claimed that she attended or went to the Trayvon Martin -- went to the hospital to visit him, which she did not, and also that she had given her age as -- she's now 19, but she had given her age as 16, when she was actually 18.
She says that was because she thought she would have more protections as a minor. So those are the two lies. She's owned up to them, but clearly she's told lies and has been established as having told lies.
TOOBIN: You never know how a jury is going to read that. A jury may say, well, she lied, so let's discredit her testimony.
The jury might also say, she was a kid, she was scared, she didn't -- she wasn't familiar with this whole world. The stakes of this were so much bigger than anything she had ever been involved in. Of course she might have told a lie or two.
So, that's a preview of the arguments you're going to hear on summation about her credibility, but at least so far I don't think the defense is discrediting her in some sort of profound way. I suspect the cross-examination is going to go on for some time, because she's an important witness, and she doesn't -- and it's hard to get clear answers out of her. So, I expect this cross will go on for on while.
TAPPER: And if you're just tuning in, while the attorneys in the George Zimmerman trial confer with the circuit court judge, we're taking a break and analyzing the testimony of one of Trayvon Martin's friends, Rachel Jeantel, who is testifying.
We have CNN legal analyst Mark NeJame on the phone.
Mark, Trayvon's friend Rachel is saying she heard him ask why he's following him, meaning George Zimmerman. "Get off" -- a neighbor had said also in a different part of the testimony that she heard a boy crying for help. It's unclear -- it's presumably Trayvon Martin, but we don't know that for sure.
How will the defense respond beyond just trying to paint Rachel Jeantel as a credible witness because she has admitted telling a couple of lies.
MARK NEJAME, CNN LEGAL ANALYST (via telephone): I would respectfully disagree a bit with Jeffrey. I think she is being discredited a bit more than was just suggested. I'll share with you why. There is no dispute that Zimmerman was in fact following Trayvon Martin. So, there's nothing really new about that. Zimmerman acknowledges it. And now, we've got corroboration from her. I mean, we know that occurred.
The key issue, which is not addressed by this, is how they came to confront. Did Trayvon Martin first confront Zimmerman in aggressive, violent way, or did Zimmerman confront Trayvon Martin in a violent, aggressive way? I think that her credibility is questionable. When she said that she heard wet grass, I'm baffled by that. How anybody on a call outside --
TAPPER: Mark, I'm going to cut you off.
NEJAME: They actually heard wet grass.
TAPPER: Mark, I'm going to cut you off right there. The trial has resumed. We're going to continue to watch.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ms. Fulton, I'd like to move to the actual recorded interview. That was done over the telephone.
RACHEL JEANTEL, WAS ON THE PHONE WITH MARTIN JUST BEFORE SHOOTING: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Was that the same day?
JEANTEL: March 19th.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is that right?
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And where were you when it was -- when you were being interviewed?
JEANTEL: My house.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Pardon me?
JEANTEL: My house.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Your house, OK.
Do you know where the other parties were?
JEANTEL: No.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Would you describe for us how that interview took place?
JEANTEL: On the phone.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Of course.
Did they call you?
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And did you have a conversation before recording about the kind of questions you would be asked?
JEANTEL: No.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you have a conversation about who was going to be present in the room?
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And what were you told who would be in the room?
JEANTEL: The parents and the attorney.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is that all?
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Had you had consent at this point to having this interview recorded?
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And had you given any consent to having any part of it broadcast or released to the public?
JEANTEL: No.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Was the interview done for the purposes of releasing parts of it to the public?
JEANTEL: No. I never knew that it was public. I mean --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You didn't know that the interview would be released or parts of it --
JEANTEL: No.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- would be used in a press conference?
JEANTEL: The situation, yes, the situation, I never knew there was local media. I never knew that it was on TV at all.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you know when gig the interview that parts of the recording that was made would be released to the public in a press conference?
JEANTEL: No, no.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Were you told at different points in time during the interview to repeat things so that the person running the recorder could be sure to get them again or get them the way they wanted?
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Pardon me?
JEANTEL: Yes. I speak low. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So there were certain things in the interview that you were told to repeat so that the recording would be precise to that issue?
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And you did?
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And you were asked during the interview certain specific questions about what had happened during that even in Sanford on February 26th?
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: One of the -- let me ask you this, sorry. Did you ever hear the press conference where certain parts of what you said were played?
JEANTEL: The next day?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Whenever.
JEANTEL: The next day, I got a phone call -- a text from my brother saying we hear your voice on television.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Could you make a special effort to speak up? We're having such a hard time hearing you.
JEANTEL: The next day my brother had texted me saying we hear your voice on the television.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I take it you didn't?
JEANTEL: No.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So what did you learn about that?
JEANTEL: I was not paying focus on the tape. I was just shocked that my voice was on the television.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The next day your face was on TV?
JEANTEL: No, my voice.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you believe that what was on TV was part of the recording of the interview the day before?
JEANTEL: The television didn't show all the recorder. They just showed -- not showed, but gave parts, and I wasn't really paying attention of how it started on that. I was just worried about my voice.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So if I understand you, there was a television broadcast, it included parts of what you said on the day before, but they didn't have any pictures of it?
JEANTEL: No, because I had said I do not want my picture, my (INAUDIBLE) out to the public.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did they say in that recording that you were the 16-year-old girlfriend of Trayvon Martin?
JEANTEL: What interview?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What was on the television.
JEANTEL: Recorded between me and --
(CROSSTALK)
JEANTEL: No.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, what I was talking about now was what was played --
JEANTEL: On television.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: On TV, right. That you were identified as the 16- year-old girlfriend of Trayvon Martin.
JEANTEL: No.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That you had been in a relationship for more than a year?
JEANTEL: There was a person on the phone with him a moment before he died, a female was on the phone, a young lady, young girl was on the phone before -- a moment before he died.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you ever see the press conference that Mr. Crump gave?
JEANTEL: No.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, where he played parts of what he said.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She's stated she doesn't know, so --
JUDGE: Overruled, you can answer the question.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let me finish it, first. Did you every watch or see the press conference that Mr. Crump gave where he played parts of his interview with you?
JEANTEL: No.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Has anyone who watch it told you about it?
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did they tell you how you had been presented, as a 16-year-old girl and the girlfriend of Trayvon Martin?
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That wasn't true, was it?
JEANTEL: No --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: None of it was true. You weren't 16 and you weren't his girlfriend.
JEANTEL: No, it seemed from the text message -- the text message, it seemed like it, because of my text messages between me and Trayvon. It seemed like we were in a relationship, girlfriend (INAUDIBLE), and then the phone calls, all the phone calls. Yes. He seen, and so --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When you say text messages, are you referring to the texts between you and Trayvon Martin?
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't understand what you're saying. Sorry. Could you explain that a bit?
JEANTEL: It didn't seem like a friend texting another friend. It seemed like a relationship between a person and --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are you saying that the text messages between you and Trayvon Martin --
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- indicated that you were in a personal intimate relationship?
JEANTEL: Yes. Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you give the text messages to anybody in the Martin family or Mr. Crump?
JEANTEL: No.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you talk about that with them?
JEANTEL: No.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You never told them that you were Trayvon Martin's girlfriend, did you?
JEANTEL: I don't remember, (INAUDIBLE) stuff was going on, that's it.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMLAE: Did you think that you were going to be --
JEANTEL: No. Because there was another young lady that he was seeing.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You knew that? JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So Trayvon Martin was in a relationship with another girl, another young lady?
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And the relationship with you wasn't like that?
JEANTEL: No.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So you just considered yourself like phone friends or pals?
JEANTEL: Friends.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But there were so many texts, hundreds and hundreds in just --
JEANTEL: Some of those texts in there is not even me. Some of the texts are not even me texting him. My friend having gotten my phone and texted him, several things.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Like a three-way texting thing?
JEANTEL: What? No. Texting him from my phone, and he's thinking that's me. Did you see the texts?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. So, are you saying that some friends would text Trayvon Martin and he was thinking it was you?
JEANTEL: Yes. If I was busy doing something or driving, they would text for me.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So a lot of the texting then are from other people?
JEANTEL: Just two. That's it.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just two?
JEANTEL: Yes, two.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But you were there with them when they made them?
JEANTEL: Yes. They was in my house, yes. In the car, yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But there are hundreds and hundreds of texts.
JEANTEL: Some are me. I'm not going to lie. Some are me. Some are not me.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I kind of got off track a little bit there, because I was talking about the interview that you gave that was recorded.
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Have you ever listened to that interview?
JEANTEL: No.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Never listened to --
JEANTEL: Well, I --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Even once?
JEANTEL: Around when I met you.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right.
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you listen to it all the way through?
JEANTEL: During our interview? Between me and you?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, let's set the stage a bit. We met at a deposition March of this year.
JEANTEL: March 15th?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Thereabouts.
JEANTEL: March 15th, Wednesday, 2:00 something.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right. And we didn't quite finish, correct?
JEANTEL: Yes, we -- we met around 6:00.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And then met again the next month?
JEANTEL: No, we met again that Friday. When you did not want to interview me that Friday?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hmm. I didn't want to interview you?
JEANTEL: Well --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We didn't have an interview, did we?
JEANTEL: No.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We hadn't finished on Wednesday.
JEANTEL: You interviewed his brother.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Right, we were interviewing several people, and you knew that.
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You're kind of --
JEANTEL: But we agreed to that Friday.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And we had a scheduling --
JEANTEL: This is what you said -- well, not you, but your partner said between Trayvon's brother and me, it would be better if you interview his brother before me. We'll do it next time -- not you, but him.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Because of scheduling?
JEANTEL: No. He took four hours in my interview -- their interview took four hours. I could have made my four hours.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm sorry that you were inconvenienced, but we did not have the interview on Friday because of scheduling issues. Do you agree with that?
JEANTEL: You should have picked me up on Thursday.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sure. We then were able to meet again the next month.
JEANTEL: April 30th.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. Good enough.
So what I'm trying to get at now is that you said you had in fact listened to your interview with Mr. Crump when we first met. Is that what you're saying?
JEANTEL: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Was that during the deposition itself or before?
JEANTEL: The day of the interview?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But before you and I spoke?
JEANTEL: No, the same day.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You hadn't ever listened to your interview before that day?
JEANTEL: Not the whole interview, no.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: In the interview, there was a discussion -- the interview what I mean is the interview that Mr. Crump did of you on the phone that was recorded on or about March 19th.
JEANTEL: Yes.
