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Prosecutors: Man Went To Obama's D.C. Neighborhood After Trump Posted What He Claimed Was The Address; Secret Service: Substance At WH Confirmed To Be Cocaine; Millions Heading Back Home After July 4th Weekend; Some Cancer Patients Choosing To "De-Escalate" Treatment. Aired 1:30-2p ET

Aired July 05, 2023 - 13:30   ET

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BORIS SANCHEZ, CNN HOST: Just in at CNN, we're learning new details about the moments before an armed man was arrested last week in former President Obama's D.C. neighborhood. Let's get to CNN Katelyn Polantz now. So Katelyn, what more a prosecutor saying about this incident?

KATELYN POLANTZ, CNN SENIOR CRIME AND JUSTICE REPORTER: Well, Boris, prosecutors want this man, Taylor Taranto, to be detained because they think that it is very concerning. The number of things he has been doing, especially last week on his YouTube channel. So this is a man who was and is accused of being at the Capitol on January 6, with a cane, scuffling with officers and others.

But then last week, federal investigators picked up on him having a series of live streams of himself doing really ominous things. One of them calling Speaker McCarthy's office wanting to look at January 6 videos that he had, then making an ominous comment to McCarthy the next day on a live stream. And then saying on his live stream on June 28th that he wanted to blow up his vehicle outside of a government building in Maryland.

Then the following day, that's when Donald Trump is posting apparently the address of former President Barack Obama and his wife Michelle in Washington D.C. At that point in time, this man, Taylor Taranto, was believed to have been living in Washington outside of his van and then it shows up live streaming himself in this neighborhood, where the Obamas live, and the Secret Service protects them. The Secret Service they're watching him. They approach him and he takes off into the woods where they finally are able to arrest him.

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But prosecutors are making clear in some court documents today that they believe that he wanted to somehow enter the Obamas residence. And there are other concerning things in these court records at one point in recent weeks, he entered an elementary school apparently to show a video about January 6 in Maryland because it was near the home of Representative Jamie Raskin. And so all of this together is part of the argument prosecutors are going to be making to a judge, we believe today to keep this man in jail as he awaits trial. Boris?

SANCHEZ: Really unusual behavior. Katelyn Polantz, please keep us up- to-date with the latest on that case. Brianna?

BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN HOST: And some new details into CNN about the substance that was found at the White House. What we're learning about it, next.

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KEILAR: All right, some new information about that powdery substance found at the White House on Sunday that lab tests have confirmed was, is cocaine. CNN's Kevin Liptak is at the White House for us on this story.

Kevin, is there anything else that we know about who this belongs to? Or how it got where it was left?

KEVIN LIPTAK, CNN WHITE HOUSE REPORTER: Yeah, those are all questions that the Secret Service is now working very urgently to try and find answers to, of course, poring over video footage, but also visitor logs from Sunday to try and determine who exactly brought cocaine into the White House.

And I am learning some new information about where exactly this cocaine was found. It was at an entrance to the West Wing. So of course, a quite a heavily trafficked area of the building, not just by staff, but also by tourists that staff are allowed to bring through the West Wing on Sunday. So you can imagine, there are quite a number of people who this could be, but that area does sort of narrow down who this cocaine could have belonged to, the place that it was found is where guests are asked to leave their cell phones before they proceed into the rest of the building.

The other question that I think officials are now trying to find an answer to, is when exactly this was brought in. Of course, it was found on Sunday on a routine patrol by Secret Service officers. But they don't know necessarily that it was dropped or left on Sunday. Of course, knowing when that came into the building could help narrow down who brought it in. So, of course, they did do that field testing on that substance on Sunday night, that came back for cocaine. That lab test has also now come back for cocaine.

The White House itself has not necessarily weighed in on this quite yet. They are leaving this all to the Secret Service, who are very busy now conducting their investigation into who exactly brought this into the building? Brianna.

KEILAR: Was this locked in one of the boxes for the cell phones? Was this left on a flat surface for anyone to see? What do we know?

LIPTAK: Well, officials haven't necessarily said exactly physically where it was found. They do know -- or we do know that it is in the entrance to this building. But interestingly, as I said, this can go -- or people can't take tours through this area.

Not everyone, it's not open to the public. But it is open on the weekends to guests of staff and they are asked to leave their cell phones in that area. So you can imagine people sort of fumbling with their things potentially dropping it. We don't know if that's exactly what happened. But it is sort of a narrow scope of people who would be going through this entrance, particularly on a Sunday when the President wasn't at the White House.

KEILAR: Yeah, certainly. Kevin Liptak, thank you for the latest on that. Jim?

JIM SCIUTTO, CNN HOST: Airlines dealing with a heavy rush of travelers, heading back from their holiday weekends. What we're seeing at airports across the country? That's coming up.

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SCIUTTO: Well, right now, millions of Americans heading home after the long Fourth of July weekend. Look at this map from FlightAware showing all the planes in the air right now. It's like mosquitoes flying there. This is airlines are hoping to recover from what was a tough start to the holiday travel this weekend. CNN's Pete Muntean is at Reagan National Airport. Pete, rough day out there or pretty good?

PETE MUNTEAN, CNN AVIATION CORRESPONDENT: You know the thing is -- things are going pretty smoothly today, Jim, thankfully. You know the TSA says today's going to be a big day. Sunday will also be a big day but look at the numbers that have gotten us to where we are now, 2 million people screened by TSA at airports nationwide yesterday. 2.2 million people the day before that. That is the slump. Friday was the biggest day that TSA has seen ever 2.8 million people.

In fact, American Airlines now tells us it's the busiest the airline has been since July of 2019. The good news right now is that the cancellations are relatively low, just take FlightAware we hit 165 cancellations just now nationwide, just yesterday for the full day about 400 cancellations nationwide. But think back to last Tuesday when airlines in the U.S. cancelled 2200 flights in total, want you to listen now to travel experts got kinds of going. He says that this week is looking a lot better than last week.

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SCOTT KEYES, FOUNDER OF GOING.COM: Never just assume everything's going to go great, have a backup plan just in case. But I think that your odds are a lot better of an on-time arrival this week than they were last week.

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MUNTEAN: FAA is warning of ground stops popping up later today in major hubs like Denver, Charlotte, Atlanta, the big thing to underscore if you're driving, leave early. AAA says before 2 p.m. is the best time between 3:00 and 6:00 this evening the worst time. So, there'll be a lot of traffic on the road as well and it isn't all the people here at security checkpoints nationwide, Jim.

SCIUTTO: Well, it's good time to be in the airline business. No question planes are full. Pete Muntean, thanks so much. Boris?

SANCHEZ: When it comes to the treatment of cancer patients some doctors are trying a less is more approach. We're going to show you the research that's leading to this move, described as de-escalation.

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We'll be right back.

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SANCHEZ: There is emerging research showing that for certain cancer patients scaling back on aggressive treatments can actually have some benefit. It's an approach called de-escalation. Let's discuss with CNN Health Reporter Jacqueline Howard. Jacqueline, you've spoken with some oncologists who say that this has shown a benefit to their patients?

JACQUELINE HOWARD, CNN HEALTH REPORTER: That's right, Boris. Some of the oncologists I spoke with said that by scaling back aggressive treatments for their patients who have less aggressive cancer was able to help their patients not suffer so many serious side effects. So this patient still had a nice quality of life while continuing the necessary treatments for their cancer.

And one example of this I can share with you, Boris, there was one study on rectal cancer patients. And in that study, researchers looked at patients who had only chemotherapy before they underwent surgery and they compared those patients with those who had both chemo and radiation. And the researchers found that similar outcomes among both patients, among the patients who only had chemo but skipped radiation, about 80 percent of them five years later, were disease free. Among those who had chemo and the radiation about 78 percent were disease free five years later.

So you see the same percentage were still disease free, and those who only had chemo didn't necessarily have to have the side effects that come with radiation. So the thing here is, Boris, oncologist told me that you really have to kind of weed out which patients have a less aggressive form of cancer and which patients could possibly benefit from scaling back a little bit on the aggressive treatments. That's kind of the takeaway here, Boris.

SANCHEZ: That really is significant research. Jacqueline Howard, thank you so much. Brianna?

KEILAR: We are continuing to follow a developing story. The Defense Department says, the U.S. Navy intervened to stop Iranian Navy ships from attempting to seize two oil tankers in separate incidents in the Gulf of Oman. We have some new details, next.

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