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Police Give Update On Escaped Killer In PA; Police: "Every Reason To Believe" Suspect Is Still In The Area; Police: Searching Longwood Gardens After Report Of Sighting. Aired 3-3:30p ET
Aired September 07, 2023 - 15:00 ET
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BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN HOST: Let's listen to officials in Pennsylvania. They are giving an update right now on their search for escaped inmate and convicted murderer, Danelo Cavalcante.
LT. COL. GEORGE BIVENS, PENNSYLVANIA STATE POLICE: The search of that area has been underway for the past few hours and continues at this time. Our search perimeter remains unchanged with the exception that we have thoroughly searched the area around two elementary schools previously contained within the perimeter and have adjusted the perimeter to exclude both schools from the perimeter area.
We've done this in an effort to minimize the impact on students and their families while we continue with our search efforts. The District Attorney and I have an ongoing dialogue with school districts in the area and are committed to providing them the most up-to-date information so they can make informed decisions about school operations.
I have told you all previously that we're utilizing hundreds of state, local and federal law enforcement officers, K-9s, aviation assets and various types of technology in an effort to keep the community safe and to bring this to as swift of a conclusion as possible. I'd like to provide the media and the public an opportunity for some insight of the scope of the operation that we've put in place. Following the press conference today, I'll provide you all details of how we can make that happen.
As a reminder, we're asking the public's help by familiarizing themselves with the photograph and description of Cavalcante, to check security cameras they have and to call us immediately if they believe they may have seen him. Again, we ask residents to please secure homes, outbuildings and vehicles. Cavalcante has clearly already obtained some clothing and other unknown supplies and we want to minimize any opportunity that he might have to get anything more. It is very important we keep the pressure on him as we continue this hunt.
Cavalcante is considered extremely dangerous and there were - is a reward - excuse me - of up to $20,000 offered for information leading to the capture of Cavalcante. Anyone with information is asked to call our tip line at 717-562-2987 - 717-562-2987. I continue to thank the community for their support and for allowing us the latitude to do our jobs while they deal with what I know are extremely stressful circumstances. We appreciate you all more than you know.
I wanted to also - because we've had a number of inquiries - I mentioned an injury to one of our tactical dogs the other day, Loki (ph), and I wanted to provide you all just a brief update. He is doing well, has been released from the hospital earlier today and is expected to make a full recovery and return to work within the next week.
And with that, we will be happy to take any questions that you might have.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can you provide some details of the Longwood Gardens event? We saw the helicopter dropped very low, right off the deck, and seemed to try to spread the (inaudible) ...
BIVENS: So an individual reported that he had seen someone matching that description and he provided us a location that he had seen them running through that area and so searchers have gone to that area. We're using people on foot. We have horses out there as well that are assisting with the search, tactical teams and, of course, the aviation assets that you mentioned.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How big is that area ...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How close is this area - how close is this search to that trail camera location?
BIVENS: It's not very far from that location.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Which schools were removed from the search?
BIVENS: That was the Greenwood Elementary and Chadds Ford Elementary.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So how big is this radius now that we're looking at? I mean, initially it started in that two mile radius then it moved to Longwood, then it sort of eased.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can you give us just an exact distance that you're searching of? I mean, the entire ...
BIVENS: Yes. So it's about an eight- to 10-square mile area that we're looking at right now. It's a couple of miles across, but then the total mileage would be about eight- to 10-square miles.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is there any validity that he was actually at Wal-Mart in East Marlborough Township? There was reported sightings there.
BIVENS: I'm aware of that report and we do not believe that was him. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you have a strategy ...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And given the newly released footage yesterday of his escape, he is so agile. Has law enforcement been looking up in trees? In the foliage?
Have you all been looking in the storm water management within these neighborhoods? And then also, have you been going door to door in various neighborhoods for welfare checks?
BIVENS: Yes to all of those. It's been a very thorough search.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And Colonel, do you have a strategy for preventing him from escaping via the Brandywine Creek, which runs all the way to the Delaware River?
BIVENS: We do.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can you elaborate on that?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Colonel, what time was the sighting near Longwood reported?
BIVENS: Just before noon.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Today?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Colonel, do you still believe he's within this eight- to 10-mile perimeter that you've set up?
BIVENS: I have every reason to believe he is still within that perimeter. Yes, sir.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can you tell us why you have every reason to believe that?
BIVENS: We have had no sightings outside of that area. We have maintained as secure a perimeter as we possibly could. And then as recently as today, we have another reported sighting.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What are the current sites of your perimeter?
BIVENS: So it is bordered on the north by 926, on the east by 100 or Creek Road, on the south by Hillendale and on the west by 52.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Colonel, how much bigger is this perimeter today than, say, last Friday?
BIVENS: It is larger. I couldn't tell you what the difference in size is, though, off the top of my head. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Colonel, this is the same as yesterday, right?
BIVENS: It is.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Colonel, is there any evidence that he has obtained a weapon? Anything new on that front?
BIVENS: I do not have any evidence to that effect, sir.
BIVENS: I'm sorry just ...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (Inaudible) returning this weekend?
BIVENS: I'm sorry. Just a minute, ma'am.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You mentioned the heat. We obviously know it had an effect on the K-9 officer. Is there any truth that the heat may have impacted thermal cameras at the prison that may have been heated or did not have been working at the time of Cavalcante's escaped?
BIVENS: I couldn't speak to what effect anything would have on the cameras at the prison.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can you talk about the effect on the law enforcement members on the ground working through the day?
BIVENS: It makes it very challenging. Certainly, all of you have been out in this weather, high temperatures, high humidity. They're wearing uniforms with bullet-resistant vests, carrying a lot of equipment. It certainly adds to the challenge. With that said, I have not heard a single complaint and I believe our people are up to the task but ...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do they get some break time, cool-down time, water breaks?
BIVENS: If someone needs it, we absolutely get them some rest. But typically, what we've been doing is we're transporting fluids, food, those kinds of things to sustain them and keep them well hydrated out to their locations.
I'm sorry, ma'am. I ...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thank you so much. Two questions here. The Mushroom Festival returns for the 28th year in Kennett Square, which is a couple miles from East Marlborough and Longwood Gardens. The Mushroom Festival will return as planned.
Are law enforcement, state agencies, federal agencies working very closely with local police to ensure that the escapee will not go towards the borough, because some people are planning not to attend this year due to the escaped convict, even though he has not been spotted there, so any thoughts on that? BIVENS: Well, we're working very hard to capture the escaped convict and not allow him to go anywhere. But along with that, yes, we are well aware of that festival and we are working with authorities, a number of authorities, law enforcement, emergency management and so forth, to try and make sure that people feel very safe at that festival.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. And last question, in terms of how technology has changed from 1999 when Norman Johnston escaped, he was here for about three weeks in Chester County, again back in 1999. How has technology changed that is supporting your efforts to find him? Any thoughts on that?
BIVENS: As with your cell phone, it's changed dramatically in that amount of time. And so we take advantage of some of the latest state- of-the-art options that are available. And so what I've mentioned here before, we use a wide array of technology. We have a number of federal partners here with us that I've talked about previously. All of the assets of all of our agencies are brought to bear.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And Colonel, if north Creek Road is the eastern perimeter, how did you decide to remove Chadds Ford Elementary School from the search area?
BIVENS: We carved it out by putting additional officers around there. We cleared that property and then put officers around it so that we could carve that piece out.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The property at the school?
BIVENS: Yes, sir.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Colonel, as you noted, another prisoner escaped earlier this year from Warren County.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He was found some days later hiding out in the woods. So it seems like there's sort of a parallel to be drawn between the two different types of manhunts. I'm wondering if you have any thoughts on how that situation compared to the search now and if there are sort of like differences between the two that explains the challenge that you're experiencing here.
BIVENS: Those are two of the more recent - this one and that are two of the more recent examples that we've had. There are similarities between any situation for a manhunt like this. So we try to learn something from each of those incidents that we handle, take from that how to run a smoother operation. Our partners in many cases are the same.
In fact, some of the people that are here from the federal agencies are some of the same teams and resources I was on the Warren County search as well. So they're some of the same resources. Again, all of us take lessons learned from it. We adapt those to the different circumstances we find.
And there are different challenges with every particular search. If we moved 20 miles down the road, there would, perhaps, be some different challenges than what we have here. We would adjust to those. Yes, sir.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There's been some speculation in the media that the heat-seeking technology, thermal imaging technology that you use is not working because it's so hot. Is that correct? Is that - is all the technology you're using in that regard working the way it should because of the heat?
BIVENS: It is.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There's no effect ...
BIVENS: Weather can certainly - no, weather can certainly have an impact on it, but it does not take that technology out of the game at all. At times, to use the example of thermal imaging, you can get some additional hot spots, rocks, different things like that can cause a hot spot. But it requires you to check a few more things, but it does not diminish our desire to use it.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is there - are you concerned that he is growing more desperate and yet more dangerous the time that he spends out in this weather and being hunted by you?
BIVENS: I believe he becomes more desperate. I believe he has always been very dangerous, and I've said that from the start. He's already murdered two people, one in Brazil and one here in a very brutal manner. He's a very dangerous individual and he remains so.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is this the eighth confirmed sighting or are there more? And can you kind of walk us through those eight, because it seems like he's going back and forth or are we out of order on the sighting numbers?
BIVENS: I don't have all of those other sightings here in front of me, but I can get that for you and we can talk about it another time, but yes it was ...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So eight is correct?
BIVENS: Yes, sir, it would be eight.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What about homes? We know you've checked some homes before. Are you going back and rechecking homes? And if nobody's home, what are you doing, are you checking your relatives just to make sure he's not in there?
BIVENS: We are checking homes. We are talking to neighbors if we don't find somebody at that home and then each one is handled on an individual basis. We typically can check tax records, county records, to try and find an owner if we're just completely unsuccessful. But the biggest thing we look for immediately while we're there is any sign at all of forced entry. And we have found some open homes. And in those cases, we try to obtain permission. Otherwise, through exigent circumstances, we can at least make sure that that home is not occupied by him.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you feel a sense of ...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you have any indication that he's gotten into any of these homes? We've had people contact us saying they believe things have been taken or moved. On your end ...
BIVENS: I have not been able to confirm a single case to this point. It doesn't mean he hasn't, but I have not been able to confirm a single case.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (Inaudible) a family said he was downstairs when they were upstairs (inaudible) family had said that they had put up lights ...
BIVENS: Yes. Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... that's not a confirmed entry ...
BIVENS: I don't doubt that someone was down there, I cannot confirm that it was him.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Have additional special forces arrived, sir?
BIVENS: We have had tactical teams from all over the country come in and continue to come in. We have some additional resources that are arriving today. And part of the team arrived yesterday and will arrive today, and will become operational by tomorrow.
So one of the things when I talk about, after the press conference, being able to give you some additional insight of how we can do this, we'll have an opportunity to talk about some of those teams tomorrow and give you some idea. I think - and I'll come back to some of your questions here in a minute, but I think what I would like you all to see is that there is an amazing operation going on here. There's a collaboration between local, state and federal law enforcement agencies.
This is not simply a situation where we have a police dispatcher sitting and taking a call and dispatching a police car to go and follow this up. It is a very sophisticated, well-staffed operation that I believe, again, when you have an opportunity to see some of that, there are some portions, obviously, that I can't show you everything.
But I think you would have an opportunity to see enough of it to truly come away with an understanding of the effort that is being made to ensure that we end this as quickly as possible, to ensure the safety of the community.
We absolutely understand their concern. I get it as a parent why other parents are concerned about their children going to school, playing in the yard, all of those kinds of things.
Again, having been involved in a number of these searches, it is the same with every one of those, and we want to end this as quickly as possible. We'll throw every available resource at it to do it.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you still have (inaudible) ...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (Inaudible) knowing that he's going back and forth from the same places again and again, what does that do to bolster some morale out here (inaudible) and what does that mean for your containment area?
BIVENS: There is no impact on morale. As I said a few minutes ago, I have yet to hear a single complaint. I interact with our people. We have shift changes where we brief out outgoing troopers and officers. The morale is high and I talk to them when they come in after a lengthy shift and working in these conditions, morale remains high.
These are people who are volunteering to come here, many from out of the area, who are volunteering. Now, there - in the case of state police, they're being paid, so I don't mean it to sound as though they're just volunteers, but they are asking their commanders to send them here. That's how high the morale is.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Any sense of where he's going now and then can you confirm that there was no equipment failure at the prison related to any heat that may have impacted any of the cameras or technology there that could have aided this escape?
BIVENS: I cannot speak, again, to the technology at the prison. That is not my focus at this point in time. My focus is on capturing him. There is an ongoing investigation there that I'm sure will reveal if there was any kind of a failure or whether it was a failure of an individual or a group of individuals. That will all be determined and acted on appropriately. But for right now, again, the priority for me and our focus is on getting him back into custody.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But you do have a sense of where he's going then?
BIVENS: I have some ideas. Again, I can't get inside his head. I wish I could. I wish I could go right to where he is. So we use our experience, we use the information that's available to us and then we also use any number of different techniques to try and push him, to try and make him - get him to make a mistake and to detect that mistake when it occurs.
Miss - one second, the gentleman back here.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can you explain why you can't just have this perimeter and then squeeze in and get him? Obviously it's not that simple or you would have done it, but ...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... why isn't that working?
BIVENS: For a number of reasons it doesn't work. First of all, it's not just a perfect open piece of land that you can just march through. You've got businesses, residences, highways, hills, valleys, wooded areas that can't be pushed through. The number of people that it would take to contain that area and be able to walk shoulder to shoulder through that area and squeeze and the amount of time that it would take, it's just simply not realistic to do that.
If we were talking about one city block or something like that, it would be a different story. It's just too large of an area to be able to squeeze in and push like that.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, Lieutenant Colonel, could you provide an estimate as to how many personnel are currently at Longwood Gardens trying to track this guy down right now, and what tactics and what technology is being used at Longwood Gardens?
BIVENS: Off the top of my head, I couldn't speculate. It would be a large number of people. We don't break the perimeter, so we're not moving every single person there. We want to keep the perimeter secure while we move response teams there. And so I mentioned tactical teams, aviation, mounted detail, some other foot searchers besides the tactical teams, K-9s, all of that is brought to bear. In terms of the specific number, I couldn't give that to you off the top of my head.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (Inaudible) confirm the account of the man who says he broke into his house?
BIVENS: I'm sorry?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There was a report of the man that says that ...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... he broke into his house.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And also, whether he's using block comms (ph) (inaudible) ...
BIVENS: We using tracking dogs. And yes, I believe the account that someone broke in, I'm saying, I can't conclusively prove that it was him. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Has he left any traces that you have found, traces of anything, traces of clothing, food, like the one in Western Pennsylvania campsites? Has he left any traces at all?
BIVENS: We have not recovered anything that I can conclusively say was his at this point.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Lieutenant Colonel, there was a lot of speculation yesterday about his training as a survivalist. A few years back, you led the search for Eric Frein in Poconos. Can you talk a little bit about the difference between that search, which went on for about 48 days, and the search (inaudible) ...
BIVENS: Again, as I said earlier, there are a lot of similarities between any of these searches.
The difference there was their level of violence. We knew Frein was armed and so both very violent individuals, very dangerous individuals. The difference is with Frein, you're hunting for a person with a rifle that will penetrate the body armor of any of the officers that are out there and did penetrate the body armor of the corporal that he killed.
And so it brings a different dynamic to that search, but there are a lot of similarities in the search as well. And, again, that's where I tell you that we try to take lessons from all of those and bring those to the next job.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So Longwood Gardens is west of 52, is that outside your perimeter? And I believe today was the first day (inaudible) ...
BIVENS: Yes, Longwood Gardens proper is out there. We have additional property that is within the perimeter and it's in the vicinity of that - that I'm speaking.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And was that - that area was not open to the public today because it was inside the perimeter?
BIVENS: I can't speak to whether Longwood Gardens had that piece open or not. There wasn't anybody in there.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So not all of Longwood Gardens is in the perimeter, correct?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you still have men search in the night?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Lieutenant, this is a question maybe for the district attorney or the chief. Neighbors adjacent to the prison spoke to us today about their concerns for their safety not the first time that someone escaped from the prison but now the second time. They are curious about alerts.
In May - they're on record today saying that in May there was no siren, there was no warning. What - I know you don't speak for the county, but as the chief law enforcement officer for Chester County, how can you assure these neighbors that they're not - everyone for themselves out there in - on their properties?
DEB RYAN, DISTRICT ATTORNEY, CHESTER COUNTY, PA: So I understand that alerts do go out. The first prison escape in May, he was captured within five minutes is my understanding. So I don't even know if there was a time for an alert to go out, but I don't know that information conclusively.
They are sending out alerts repeatedly through reverse 911 calls, and they keep expanding the perimeter and the radius to where they send those locations or those notifications, so they are on high alert. And those communities that are affected immediately are alerted right away. So I know that the time frame is very rapid from when they are alerted until - when they have an incident.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (Inaudible) concern though that - I mean, I know it's under investigation, but this is supposed to be a facility that holds in these dangerous people, these guys convicted of murder.
RYAN: Absolutely. This is an outrage. This should have never happened. You know that I was the prosecutor who was assigned to this case and I helped convict this man, and he was sentenced to life without parole. We're all upset. We're all concerned and there will be a thorough investigation and that will be made public at some point.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: District Attorney Ryan, can you speak to the victim - of Deborah for a moment and her family and assuming that the family has protection right now and that he's not near them?
RYAN: They do have protection and they are terrified. They are - they haven't left their home. They're barricaded inside and very concerned about their safety. We do have police detail around them 24 hours a day, but I know they're very, very worried.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ms. Ryan, can you send him back to Chester County prison?
RYAN: He will not be going back to Chester County prison.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And when captured, what charges might he face? I mean, what does this bring from a criminal liability?
RYAN: He's charged with escape right now. That's a felony.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Where will he go if not to Chester County prison?
RYAN: He'll go to a state correctional institution.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The one that he was sentenced to ...
RYAN: He hadn't been assigned to anyone yet. He was on the way to Smithfield to be assigned to another location.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm sorry if this was already asked, but will you all release the video of the (inaudible) ...
RYAN: No, we're not focusing on that right now. Our primary mission is to get this guy in custody. That's where all of our attention is focused at this moment.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ms. Ryan, (inaudible) your office answer the motion seeking a retrial or a resentencing for this defendant, Mr. Cavalcante? Did you - I know the judge denied it, but did your office have a response to their pursuing a new trial?
RYAN: We did not respond. The judge decided that on his own. Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Just a follow-up question for Lt. Col. Bivens. We've talked to someone who has taken it upon himself to enter into wooded areas and look for Cavalcante. Obviously, this is someone who believes (inaudible) vigilante and escaped. What is your message to people who may think that they would be empowered to do such a thing?
BIVENS: First of all, they have no authority other than that of a private citizen to do it. They are risking drawing away law enforcement resources because someone else may see them and report them, and we end up having to go investigate that and draw resources away.
So I would ask them not to do it. I can't prevent them from doing it. But they have no authority and run the risk of, depending on what action they take, getting themselves in trouble.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (Inaudible) to confirm that the most recent sighting is at that Longwood Gardens, but it's not Longwood Gardens ...
BIVENS: No, I said it was in the vicinity. It was near Longwood Gardens.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: In the vicinity.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: In the vicinity of the property that's not the primary Longwood Gardens property.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (Inaudible) ...
BIVENS: Yes, sir.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is it Longwood Gardens' property or near Longwood Gardens? BIVENS: I don't know, sir. I wasn't out there personally on that one. It was in that vicinity. I just know where the report was. It was very close to where the camera was, which was on Longwood Gardens' property.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Lieutenant Colonel, what would you say to those who say that he's winning right now? It's eight days. He's up against hundreds of your people. You've got technology. He's got barely nothing to eat and you can't catch him. He's winning so far, not you.
BIVENS: Well, we've chased people for a lot longer than this and ultimately brought them to justice. As I've said before, we're not going anywhere. We will eventually capture him and when we do, he's going to prison. I don't consider that winning.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There were some neighbors near the area where he was spotted by the creek who were concerned that bloodhounds weren't being used and that the scent may have been (inaudible) lost in the creek itself. Are bloodhounds part of what you're using to try to track him?
BIVENS: I don't have bloodhounds at this particular scene, but I've got other tracking dogs that we have confidence in and I'm told can perform in a very similar manner. And by the way, we have them from a number of agencies as well.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just to clarify, so he isn't impacting any of the tech that you're using to search for him day and night?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is there any reason - I asked this yesterday and I'll ask the same question - is there any reason to believe he's getting or gotten help from anyone outside of jail?
BIVENS: It's something that I am always concerned about, but I'm not prepared to discuss that in any further detail at this point. We are always looking for that and we continue to look for that, because even if it doesn't happen at the beginning, it sometimes can happen at another - at a later point in the hunt. And so it's something we're always aware of, but I'm not prepared to discuss it in any further.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There was a report that there was a train stopped and searched in the - one area (inaudible) ...
BIVENS: There was a train that was stopped there. The railroads have been cooperative with us for the most part. What they've been doing is stopping at their normal stop, and we can utilize others for surveillance to make sure that no one else boards the train so that we don't disrupt the train traffic.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No further stop occurred?
BIVENS: No, I don't. There have been a number of trains over the last several days that have come through there. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Does he have relatives in those - this was brought up yesterday and I don't remember what the answer was. Does he have relatives in Maryland that he may be trying to get to? That's the only thing I've heard, but I can't make speculations. Does he have relatives in Maryland? Does he have relatives near here who he's been trying to get to? Can you tell us anything about (inaudible) ...
BIVENS: He has relatives in the general area here. Offhand, I'm not familiar with anyone in Maryland. If he's trying to get to those, I wouldn't be able to tell you that at this point.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Have you spoken to them? Have you tried to get cooperation from them?
BIVENS: We have spoken to relatives and I can't go any further than that.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yesterday you said something about - you still believe he's heading south, but you couldn't elaborate on that. Can you go further today?
BIVENS: No. Okay, all right. Again, thank you very much for your help in getting this word out, keeping the public informed and we'll talk afterward here about tomorrow. Okay? Thank you.
KEILAR: All right, the latest update there from officials in Pennsylvania as we are now on day eight of this escaped inmate convicted of murder, Danelo Cavalcante, on the loose from the Chester County prison.
He said there, Lt. Col. George Bivens of the Pennsylvania State Police, that there have now been eight sightings over these last several days, and the last sighting was just a few hours ago just before noon in the vicinity, perhaps in Longwood Gardens, certainly near Longwood Gardens. He said he wasn't exactly sure specifically of where it was, but very close to Longwood Gardens, if not in Longwood Gardens, where he said that he was seen running through the area.
He said at this point they've got a scene of about eight to 10 square miles that they believe he is still in that area, which is pretty much a portion of Longwood Gardens. They're using tracking dogs from a number of agencies. They're using planes. And he sort of shot down some concerns as well about the weather interfering in how they are using technology to track Cavalcante.
There were some questions about this thermal imaging. It is so hot outside right now in this area, is that interfering.