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New Report on Deadly Collision Over Potomac River; U.S. Markets Rattled by Tariffs; Trump to Double Tariffs on Canadian Aluminum and Steel; Mark Carney Calls Trump's Tariffs an "Attack"; Rubio and Walts Speak after Holding Talks with Ukraine; Ukraine Agrees to Proposal for Immediate 30-Day Ceasefire. Aired 2-2:30p ET

Aired March 11, 2025 - 14:00   ET

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BORIS SANCHEZ, CNN CO-ANCHOR OF "CNN NEWS CENTRAL": We have a brand- new update on that deadly mid-air collision over the Potomac River. The NTSB releasing its preliminary report into what happened. And any moment now, we're anticipating a news conference with more answers from the investigation.

BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN CO-ANCHOR OF "CNN NEWS CENTRAL": Markets rattled, investors anxious, stocks plummeting as President Trump threatens to escalate the trade war against Canada. New questions about how he's handling the economy that he inherited just weeks ago.

And a constructive start to talks between the Ukraine and U.S. But much more work to be done as officials for both countries work on a deal to end the war with Russia. We're following these major developing stories and many more, all coming in right here to CNN News Central.

SANCHEZ: Happening now, we're standing by for a live update from the NTSB on that deadly crash in January involving an American Airlines jet and a military helicopter. Remember, all 67 people on board both aircraft were killed in that midair collision that happened over the Potomac River near Reagan National Airport.

It is now the country's deadliest aviation accident in almost two decades. And at any moment, investigators are expected to release their preliminary report on the crash. CNN Aviation Correspondent Pete Muntean is covering the press conference for us. He will join us later with details. Brianna.

KEILAR: We do have some more breaking news now. U.S. markets taking a tumble again today after President Trump threatened to escalate his trade war against Canada. And this time, he's vowing to double the levy on Canadian steel and aluminum to 50 percent. The new policy set to go into effect at midnight tonight, Trump saying it's in response to the province of Ontario issuing a retaliatory 25 percent surcharge on power to three U.S. states, and warning Canada will, quote, "pay a financial price so big that it will be read about in history books for many years to come."

Ontario's premier says Trump's trade chaos will only hurt Americans. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DOUG FORD, ONTARIO PREMIER: There was an unprovoked attack on Canada, on families, on jobs, on businesses, for what reason? You know, the market's speaking loud and clear. Consumer confidence is down, the market's tumbling. You know, there's going to be plants closed in the U.S. Assembly plants will shut down because they won't have the aluminum or they'll be paying twice -- three times as much. This is this is absolute chaos created by one person.

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KEILAR: And we have been keeping an eye on Wall Street right now, stocks, they're down, looking at the Dow down 515 points, or down more than 500 still at this point. Anxiety, of course, uncertainty rattling the markets. Let's turn now to Jeff Stein, White House economic reporter for the Washington Post. Jeff, just these this new tariff, the double tariff on aluminum and steel. What is that going to mean for every day Americans?

JEFF STEIN, WHITE HOUSE ECONOMIC REPORTER, THE WASHINGTON POST: I mean, I think it's worth taking a step back and saying exactly where we are right now. The Trump administration has moved forward with tariffs on roughly a trillion dollars' worth of goods. But as you're alluding to, today, they announced a doubling of steel aluminum, which is from Canada, which is a small part of our overall import picture, but comes as the administration is looking to impose tariffs on an additional $2 trillion or so in goods.

And I think what Trump is indicating here is that this could still be the very early innings that, you know, we're only a few weeks potentially into this trade war, which has already far surpassed the entirety of the trade war that Trump waged during his first term. So, we could see higher prices, obviously, for imports for U.S. steel and aluminum. The steel and aluminum makers in the U.S. are happy with this. They think that this could help them, you know, sell domestically raise their prices. That's why they're happy about it.

But, you know, it really reinforces that there are that for all the disruption, all the market declines we've seen, all the investor uncertainty, this could just be sort of like an entree, an appetizer for a much bigger fight to come.

KEILAR: OK. So, let's -- if that isn't -- if this is an appetizer, let's talk about that. So, just -- let's talk about what actually a tariff is, because listening to the White House press briefing, there seemed to be disagreement. You talk to economists, they say this is something that gets passed on to consumers. That is not how Trump seems to see it.

We heard Karoline Leavitt stressing that tariffs are a tax hike on a foreign country. They are a tax cut for the American people. Can you fact check that?

STEIN: Yes. I mean, a tax cut for the American people. I mean, the Trump administration has had this somewhat convoluted argument that if they raise prices, you know, on foreign imports through tariffs, putting aside the reality of that, which is that, you know, it disproportionately hurts low-income people who are disproportionately dependent on imports for food and other cheap commodities relative to wealthier people, that they could use that as the basis for a cut to the income tax. That's the argument in its most sort of generous form that you could articulate.

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But the idea that the tariff themselves are a tax cut as opposed to a potential precondition for a separate tax or the basis for revenue by which other taxes could be cut is just not true. So, I think you're seeing, as Trump gets increasingly serious and as it becomes increasingly clear, much to the shock and dismay of investors and allies and many people in the business community that this is not an idle threat or a negotiating tool, but that Trump actually believes, right, that tariffs will unlock this new golden age for America, despite their, you know, potential effect of manufacturing.

As that hardens, as that coarsens, as that reality appears more and more real, the White House has had to adjust its sort of linguistic verbiage and say more and more that tariffs themselves are an unalloyed good. And that, you know, really stretches the bounds of what reporters can go without fact checking because even if you want to take seriously the arguments that, you know, many Democrats have made too that tariffs can be a useful tool, to change trade practices or to, you know, protect certain critical domestic industries, even if we want to recognize the validity of that, it calls into question whether we can continue to extend that sort of, you know, fair debate when they're using sort of language in ways that defy all understanding of economists and nonpartisan experts and what people have been saying.

KEILAR: And then, just real quick, Jeff, before we go, she also cited a Canadian tariff on American cheese and butter that isn't actually in effect. This is sort of a tariff that would be triggered if American exports hit a certain point, but they're far from that. This particular one on cheese and butter, but in any dairy category, we don't see that being hit. What do you make of them citing a tariff that, you know, it's like, hypothetically, it's almost 300 percent, but it's not actually in effect, people aren't paying it?

STEIN: Yes. The Trump administration and the economists close to Trump have been arguing, and correctly to some degree, that there are imbalances in the global trade system. And more particularly that the U.S. export markets, you know, the U.S. exporters are tariffed more heavily than we tariff imports into our markets. And that was a choice, right, that's been made for the last 20, 30 years. The WTO, that that was a choice that the U.S. made.

And while there is some reality to that, one, that decision was made with upsides as well for U.S. consumers who wanted cheap imports. But also, well, it is true that the U.S. has lower imports relative to other countries on ours, for a country of our size, it's not really the case that that's true for developed countries. When you look at all countries, a lot of sort of poor developing countries, low-income countries have higher tariffs at that stage of development, which is frankly also what we had sort of in the air that Trump likes to talk about, the late 19th century or the middle of the 19th century when we were growing and trying to incubate domestic industries.

But now, that we are sort of an advanced domestic, you know, modern first world country, our tariffs have come down much as they have in other parts of the developed world. So, comparing us now to where we were, you know, 150 years ago where many other countries are today is not sort of capturing the full story of this imbalance that they want to present between the U.S. and other countries sort of tariff policies.

KEILAR: Jeff, thank you so much for taking us through that. We appreciate it.

STEIN: Hey, my pleasure. Thanks for having me on.

KEILAR: Boris.

SANCHEZ: Canada's next Prime Minister, Mark Carney, is denouncing President Trump's latest trade threat. In a post on social media, Carney wrote, in part, that Trump's tariffs are, quote, "an attack on Canadian workers, families, and businesses." He adds, my government will ensure our response has maximum impact in the U.S. and minimal impact here in Canada while supporting the workers impacted.

With us now is Yvan Baker, a member of Canada's parliament. Yvan, thank you so much for being with us. I want to start with your reaction to the press secretary at the White House saying that Trump's tariffs are a response to, quote, "the fact that Canada has been ripping off the United States of America's hard-working Americans for decades." Do you believe that's the case?

YVAN BAKER, MEMBER OF CANADIAN PARLIAMENT: That's absolutely untrue. Let's be frank here. The relationship between Canada and the United States both economically and militarily, has been one of the most successful in history for both Americans and for Canadians. So, what Donald Trump's doing in terms of threatening to annex Canada, starting this tariff war is violating that partnership. And it's going to harm Canadians, but it's also going to harm Americans.

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And this is completely unprovoked. It's really important for your viewers to understand that. The retaliatory measures that our government is taking is only in retaliation, it's only in response to the tariffs that the Trump administration has imposed on us.

And I think I need to be clear here with your American viewers that, look, Canada is a smaller country economically by population than the United States, but we are just as proud of our country as you are of yours, and we are just as prepared to do what it takes to protect it.

And so, the measures that Canada is taking in response to the unprovoked tariffs that Donald Trump has imposed on us are meant to do just that, to protect our sovereignty and to protect our economy. SANCHEZ: So, you believe that Premier Doug Ford made the right move by putting 25 percent tariffs on energy imports to those three U.S. states?

BAKER: I do. I believe that this began when Donald Trump, after his election but before his inauguration, announced that he was going to impose 25 percent tariffs on all Canadian goods and has followed through on that and has announced additional tariffs since then, but has also said that Canada should become the 51st state, which it will never happen. He's also said that Canadians want to join the United States. That will never happen. And so, Canadians are standing up for themselves.

But Boris, I think it's also important for viewers, especially in the United States, to understand that trade between Canada and the United States is governed by what's called the USMCA, the Free Trade Agreement.

SANCHEZ: Sir, I'm so sorry to interrupt. We actually have to take you to Saudi Arabia now because the national security adviser and the secretary of state are giving comments after their meeting with Ukrainian leaders. Let's listen.

MARCO RUBIO, SECRETARY OF STATE: His number one interest is ending this war once and for all. Today, we made an offer that the Ukrainians have accepted, which is to enter into a ceasefire and into immediate negotiations to end this conflict in a way that's enduring and sustainable and accounts for their interests, their security, their ability to prosper as a nation.

I want to personally thank -- we both want to thank the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, his majesty, for hosting us, for making this possible. They've been instrumental in this process and we're very grateful to them for hosting us here today. And, you know, hopefully, we'll take this offer now to the Russians. And we hope that they'll say yes. That they'll say yes to peace. The ball is now in their court.

And -- but again, the president's objective here is, number one, above everything else, he wants the war to end. And I think today Ukraine has taken a concrete step in that regard. We hope the Russians will reciprocate.

MIKE WALTZ, NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER: Well, I, just to add to the secretary's comments, the Ukrainian delegation today made something very clear, that they share President Trump's vision for peace, they share his determination to end the fighting, to end the killing, to end the tragic meat grinder of people and national treasure that's happening on the front in Ukraine, number one.

Number two, they made concrete steps and concrete proposals, not only accepting our proposal for a full cease fire, which you can see the details of which are in our joint statement that we released together. But we also got into substantive details on how this war is going to permanently end. What type of guarantees they're going to have for their long-term security and prosperity, but also, really looking at what it's going to take to finally end this -- the horrific fighting. The other piece that I just want to make very clear is President Trump started this diplomatic effort in the Oval Office talking to both leaders, both President Putin and President Zelenskyy, back-to-back. And now, that shuttle diplomacy continues.

We have a named delegation in terms of next steps from the Russian side. We have a named delegation in terms of next steps from the Ukrainian side. I will talk to my Russian counterpart in the coming days. Secretary Rubio will be with G7 foreign ministers in the next couple of days. We have the NATO secretary general in the White House on Thursday. And we'll take the process forward from there.

So, as a result of that, and I think as a result of this positive step forward, the president has decided to lift the pause on aid and on our security assistance to Ukraine going forward, and that's effective immediately.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: All right. Your colleagues have chosen three questioners. Let's start with Alex Marquardt of CNN.

ALEX MARQUARDT, CNN CHIEF NATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT: Thank you. Several questions on the ceasefire. We understood that coming into this was a Ukrainian proposal for a partial ceasefire. How did this become an American proposal for an immediate 30-day ceasefire?

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And to be clear, you're talking about a complete ceasefire across the frontline, not just the aerial and maritime ceasefire that the Ukrainians proposed. And then, finally, how do you expect to take this to the Russians? Is it Mr. Witkoff, who we understand is heading to Moscow later this week? Will he deliver that to Putin? Will it be President Trump to President Putin? Will it be you and your counterparts? How will that actually happen and when?

RUBIO: Well, on the first point of your question is yes. It's -- that's the offer. The offer is to stop the shooting. The goal here is, the only way out to end this war is to negotiate out of it. There's no military solution to this war. The solution to this war and the way to end it and to achieve the president's objective of peace is to negotiate.

But before you can negotiate, you have to stop shooting at each other. And that's what the president has wanted to see, and that's what -- that's the commitment we got today from the Ukrainian side, their willingness to do that. Obviously, now, that'll be delivered to the Russians. It'll be delivered to them directly through multiple channels. Meaning, not only will they obviously see it, but we've our -- you know, it'll be communicated in through our diplomatic channels, through conversations and other methods, but they'll obviously be well aware.

And our hope is that the Russians will say yes, that they will also agree. So, the shooting will stop. The killing will stop. The dying will stop. And the talks can begin about how to end this war permanently in a way that's acceptable and enduring for both sides. WALTZ: Look, there's been all kinds of discussions in terms of different types of ceasefires. You know, there was the deal in terms of grain moving years ago, there's been discussion of halting aerial attacks on each other's infrastructure. The president has made it clear and certainly made it clear to us that all fighting needs to stop. And the Ukrainians have agreed to that proposal, they're ready for peace, and now we'll take that to the Russians and get their response.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: All right. Next Jennifer Jacobs, CBS.

JENNIFER JACOBS, CBS NEWS: Great, hi. Are you expecting any goodwill gestures from Russia? Do you have a deadline in mind for when you're hoping for them to reciprocate on that? Those two things.

RUBIO: Well, on -- we're going to take the offer to them. We're going to tell them this is what's on the table. Ukraine is ready to stop shooting and start talking. And now, it'll be up to them to say yes or no. I hope they're going to say yes. And if they do, then I think we've made great progress. If they say no, then we'll unfortunately know what the impediment is to peace here.

But the President's been abundantly clear he wants the shooting to stop, he wants the warfare to stop, he wants the dying and the suffering to stop. And he believes, and rightfully so, that the only way to end this war is to negotiate an end to it. And we think that it's always easier to negotiate an end to the war when people aren't shooting at each other. That's how the president believes. That's what we hope to achieve.

The Ukrainians today have expressed their willingness and readiness to do so immediately. We hope the Russians answer to that will also be yes.

JACOBS: But no deadline (INAUDIBLE)?

RUBIO: Well, the deadline is we hope to do this as soon as possible. Every day that goes by that this war continues, people die, people are bombed, people are hurt on both sides of this conflict. The president wants this war to end yesterday and the day before. The president's been clear, he wants peace. And so, we want to see it as soon as possible.

So, our hope is that the Russians will answer yes as quickly as possible so we can get to the second phase of this, which is real negotiations, not never-ending dialogue, you know, talk forever, but real negotiations to end this conflict in a way that's acceptable to both sides, sustainable, and that ensures the stability and security of Ukraine for the long-term.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And on the goodwill gesture, is there anything like the return of the stolen children or anything that you're expecting in return?

WALTZ: Look, we've discussed a number of things, prisoner exchanges, you know, folks that were detained and what have you, but the fighting has to stop. I mean, that's what we agreed today. And just think about it. We've gone from if the war is going to end to now, how the war is going to end? And this was an important first step and that was under President Trump's leadership. He has literally moved the entire global conversation to where we had a very senior Ukrainian delegation with us today.

We've had engagements with our Russian counterparts and now, it's how the war is going to end. And that's under President Trump's leadership.

RUBIO: Just to answer your question one more time, the goal here is peace. That's the president's goal. The number one -- the best goodwill gesture the Russians can provide is to say yes, to say to the offer that the Ukrainians have made, to stop the shooting, to stop the fighting and get to the table. If they do, that's the best goodwill sign we could see.

Obviously, as part of that negotiation, as we're talking about how to end this conflict, there will be a lot of issues to unravel. Among them, not the least of which is the humanitarian concerns, the children, the prisoners of war, all the things that sadly come with these conflicts. But the number one goodwill gesture we could see from the Russians is to see the Ukrainian offer and reciprocate it with a yes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And next, for Reuters, Daphne Psaledakis.

DAPHNE PSALEDAKIS, REUTERS: Thank you so much. Could you clarify what security assistance will be resumed? Does this include the PDAs? And why wasn't the minerals deal signed today? What are the outstanding issues there? And if I may, is the relationship with the Ukrainian President Zelenskyy back on track? Do you back him?

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RUBIO: Well, let me answer the second question -- or the third. You had two, and then I'll let the security adviser talk about the defense and security assistance.

On the second question -- well, let me answer first on the minerals deal. As part of our communication today. You know, that is something that was negotiated through our treasury and his counterpart on the Ukrainian side. And so, the president, and you see that expressed, both presidents will instruct the appropriate members of our governments to bring to finality, the signature of the deal and the signature of this agreement.

So, that was communicated today and that's going to happen. That was not the subject of our talks today. I thought I made -- you know, I expressed that on our way in. Our -- we were here in pursuit of peace. That doesn't mean the minerals deal is not very important, it most certainly is. And we expressed that today in the statements we put out jointly that the president -- our respective presidents have instructed the appropriate members of other governments to bring this to finality and to conclusion.

The second part of your question was?

PSALEDAKIS: Does the security assistance include --

RUBIO: No, there was one after that.

WALTZ: There we go. Yes.

PSALEDAKIS: -- Zelenskyy relationship back on track?

RUBIO: Yes. What's back on track here, hopefully, is peace. That's what matters the most. I know everyone's looking for who likes -- this is serious stuff, OK? We're not -- this is not "Mean Girls," this is not some episode of some television show. This is very serious. People are going to -- today, people will die in this war. They died yesterday, and sadly, unless there's a ceasefire tonight, they'll die tomorrow. The president wants that to stop. That's what he's interested in here. That's why we came here. That's why we're grateful for the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia hosting us here.

And what we leave here with today is a commitment that the Ukrainians are ready to stop fighting. They're ready to stop the shooting so that they can get to the table and bring about peace for their country and for the world. On the security?

WALTZ: Well, I mean, I just can't echo enough President Trump's president of peace. That's what he's demanding, and he's willing to take tough measures on all sides to drive that home. And in terms of the security assistance, it's the current presidential drawdown authority. I'll refer to the Defense Department on the eaches of what munition was where in the process, but it's the current PDA that will proceed to the Ukrainians.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: All right. Everyone, thank you.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Thank you.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thank you very much.

RUBIO: Thank you.

WALTZ: Back to the meeting.

RUBIO: Yes, thanks for your patience.

KEILAR: Very big news coming out of these negotiations between Ukrainian officials and American officials in Saudi Arabia if it proceeds to the next phase. But we just heard from the secretary of state and the national security adviser there saying Ukraine has accepted what they are characterizing as a U.S. proposal for an immediate 30-day ceasefire. The offer, Rubio said, is that Ukraine is ready to stop shooting and to start talking. He said they're going to take that to the Russians. If the Russians essentially balk, is how he described it, that's my word, balk, but he said we will know what the impediment to peace is.

SANCHEZ: Yes, Rubio, they're saying that the ball is now in Russia's court. He was asked specifically whether there was a deadline for Russia to accept. He said, we want them to answer as soon as possible. He alluded to people dying tonight and likely tomorrow if the ceasefire is not signed. The national security adviser there, Mike Waltz, saying that all fighting needs to stop for this to move forward.

Also, we heard from Rubio talking about the minerals deal, saying that essentially all that needs to happen is for Donald Trump and Volodymyr Zelenskyy to sign off on it, to finalize it. I found it very interesting that when the secretary of state was asked about the relationship with President Zelenskyy after that explosive Oval Office meeting several weeks ago, he didn't specifically answer whether things were back on track. That's the way that the reporter phrased it.

He said that this is not "Mean Girls." This is not some TV show. People are dying. It's notable that he didn't specifically cite how the relationship with Zelenskyy was when there are people within the Trump administration calling for the Ukrainian president to step aside. And also, he's not there in Saudi Arabia.

KEILAR: That's certainly right. What's clear is that this process is meant to insulate the process from the interpersonal animus, right, that we see between Zelenskyy and Trump. Let's bring in Ian Bremmer, he's the founder and president of Eurasia Group and GZERO Media to talk about this.

We also should note, Ian, that military aid and intelligence sharing, which had been paused from the U.S. to Ukraine is not being reinstated, it sounds like as it was before. What do you make of this development? Of course, with the understanding Russia has a big say here.

IAN BREMMER, FOUNDER AND PRESIDENT, EURASIA GROUP AND GZERO MEDIA: Well, irrespective of how the Russians respond, this has changed the dynamic. I wouldn't say this puts Zelenskyy back in Trump's good graces, that's an exaggeration. But it certainly means that the Ukrainians have some initiative, that they have been prepared to accept the terms as offered by the United States to stop the fighting for 30 days. And they're prepared to do that right now.

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And given that Trump's election campaign promise for months is I'm going to end this war, and the American people, whether you're Democrat or Republican, you'd like to see this war over. You'd like to see the fighting stop, you'd like to see the money stop, you'd like to see the killing stop. So, now Zelenskyy can say, I approve that, and the Europeans can stand up for it, and I suspect they will in very short order. We haven't heard that yet, but over the coming hours, I suspect you'll see lots of Europeans saying, yes, we're in favor of this. What about Putin?

And you know, Putin hasn't taken back all of the territory that Ukraine occupies right now in Kursk, in Russian territory. He certainly wants to do that. He has acted correctly, in my view, as if time is on his side, that he can outlast the Ukrainians. So, he has much less interest in accepting these terms, certainly not by themselves. I mean, his interest in talking to Trump has been all about a broader deal between Russia and the United States, not focused on the Ukrainian ceasefire. Ukraine as just a piece of that. And probably not the first piece from the Kremlin's perspective.

So, clearly, I think at the very least, I can't imagine that Putin is going to suddenly accept these terms in the next 24 hours. I suspect he's going to want to get a meeting directly with Trump as soon as possible, face-to-face, where he can talk about if I'm going to end this war and give you something you really want, what are all of the other things that we could and should be doing together? And by the way, let's keep the Europeans out of that conversation. That's where I think Putin's head is right now.

SANCHEZ: To that point, Ian, how significant was it -- is it that to this point, the United States has not explicitly said what concessions it wants to see from the Kremlin? Because we've heard them sort of delineate what Ukraine should be prepared to do, but they haven't said much about what they're anticipating Putin might give up.

BREMMER: Well, first of all, they want Putin to give up the offensive. Putin is right now the side that has more momentum. The side that can effectively outlast, credibly outlast the Ukrainians in terms of the fighting, and the Americans are asking the Russians to stop that.

So, that -- let's be very clear, that may not sound like a concession because the Russians started the war, they invaded, they killed all these innocent Ukrainians. But from Putin's perspective, that is a concession. So, let's just stipulate that to have this conversation.

Trump has also at least alluded to the fact that there will be consequences for Russia if they're not prepared to accept that. So, that's -- I don't know if I'd call that a concession, but it's certainly not a carrot, it's a stick.

Now, beyond that, the Russians are very far from where the Americans are right now. The Russians want more territory than they presently have, they presently occupy, they want to have all the territory that they have, according to them, legally annexed. They also want guarantees that Ukraine will never join NATO. They want to ensure there aren't any European boots on the ground in terms of security guarantees. They want the removal of Zelenskyy, who they consider to be illegitimate. There are a lot of Russian demands that would need to go by the wayside for them to simply accept a 30-day ceasefire no strings attached.

So, we are -- right now, we are very far for the bid offer, right? I mean, what Trump and Zelenskyy have just said that they've essentially agreed to through Marco Rubio and Mike Waltz and through Zelenskyy's advisers, that's very far from what we've heard from Putin.

By the way, a very important thing will be for Trump to very quickly say or post that he completely accepts everything that just came out of Riyadh. Everything Rubio and Waltz just said, he stands 100 percent behind. Because you don't want wiggle room for Putin to be able to say, well, sure, I get you want these 30 days, but of course, we've got this bigger conversation that we're having with Trump. You don't want Trump to give Putin that option. You want Trump to say, no, no, we can talk about the broader relationship. But right now, what I'm demanding is 30 days. We're going to see a ceasefire. And we've got to see how Putin responds to that, assuming that Trump stands up behind what we just heard from his cabinet members.

KINKADE: All right. Ian, if you can stand by for us as we were following this developing news, this breaking news, Marco Rubio, secretary of state, saying in Saudi Arabia, the ball is now in Russia's court as U.S. and Ukrainian officials have come to an agreement on a 30-day ceasefire. They're going to put --

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