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Trump to Send Federal Agents to San Francisco; Rep. Lisa McClain (R-MI) is Interviewed about San Francisco and Argentine Beef; NBA Arrests in Gambling Probe; Google Cuts Women Techmakers Programs. Aired 9-9:30a ET

Aired October 23, 2025 - 09:00   ET

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DAVID CULVER, CNN SENIOR NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice over): Far from these shores, the ones caught in the crossfire are rarely cartel leaders, but the men who take the risk for them.

CULVER: She says she really wants to talk to her brother, Andres. She's grateful that at least he's alive, especially considering her other two brothers are both in prison, one here in Ecuador, the other in the U.S., both of them accused of being fishermen turned drug runners.

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KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: All right, the breaking news this hour, we are learning that an NBA player for the Miami Heat and the Portland Trail Blazers head coach have been arrested in a federal illegal gambling probe. Terry Rozier, taken into custody this morning. He actually played for the Heat last night. This is a breaking news story. We've got a lot that we're gathering together about this. A lot more to come. We're going to bring you the details on the very latest of this.

We're also going to show you live pictures right now of the White House, where the cost of the president's -- not entirely sure what that is, guys, but it is probably -- oh, it's a truck in front of the White House, which always happens. It's like, cue the deer. Where the cost of the president's controversial construction project has gone up once again. And it's there. How he's responding to the backlash over the East Wing demolition and plans for that 90,000 square foot ballroom.

If you could create an A.I. clone of your late loved one, would you? The husband of the late actress, Suzanne Somers, did, and says that he cannot tell the difference. A lot of people talking about this one today.

I'm Kate Bolduan, with Sara Sidner. John Berman's out. This is CNN NEWS CENTRAL.

SARA SIDNER, CNN ANCHOR: Overnight, an uproar in New York over ICE raids on street vendors. Several hundred people took to the streets to protest ICE. And New York Attorney General Letitia James announced a portal will be open for people to share videos of ICE activity so that city officials can review what federal immigration is doing after federal agents carried out a raid on Chinatown's famous Canal Street targeting illegal street vending, according to federal law enforcement officials.

And you're also seeing what's going on in California now. San Francisco is bracing for an immigration crackdown this morning. Sources telling CNN, federal agents are expected to arrive in San Francisco as early as today. Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi, who represents a district in the city, says raids there could result in criminal charges against the agents involved if people's rights are violated.

CNN's Priscilla Alvarez is tracking all of this.

What are you learning this morning?

PRISCILLA ALVAREZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Sara, from the get-go, administration officials, publicly and in private conversations with me, said that they plan to target these Democratic-led cities, and more specifically sanctuary cities. Those that limit cooperation with federal immigration authorities. And that is exactly what we have seen over the last several months, which have led to controversial operations, as well as protests.

Los Angeles, for example, Chicago, which is ongoing, New York, the operations that you mentioned there on Canal Street. And now California is bracing for more expanded operations to happen in San Francisco.

What we're told is that dozens of federal agents are expected to descend on the city as soon as today. Now, that is expected to include, for example, U.S. Customs and Border Protection. They have fanned out across the country to assist Immigration and Customs Enforcement with their operations and in their efforts to ramp up immigration arrests.

Now, we are also learning that the Coast Guard is preparing to support those federal agents to come to San Francisco.

Now, plans are still being finalized. And the president himself threatened this deployment over the weekend. But what is clear is that the administration is not backing down from this immigration enforcement, anti-crime effort, where they have set their sights on multiple Democratic-led cities. I'm told San Francisco certainly won't be the last. And trying to send more federal agents there for these ops.

Now, there are other agents who are still on standby across the country. That is what my sources tell me. Of course, this tends to start with sort of a drip, drip before it gets larger. We saw this, for example, with Los Angeles, Chicago, and now expect to see it in San Francisco.

Now, a spokesperson for the Department of Homeland Security said, quote, as it does every day, DHS law enforcement will enforce the laws of our nation. That was their response to our questions about this operation.

Meanwhile, there's a lot of pushback from local and state officials. The San Francisco mayor saying that "these tactics are designed to incite backlash, chaos and violence." Governor Newsom saying that sending troops to San Francisco could lead to a lawsuit against the Trump administration. We saw that already in Los Angeles. And as you mentioned, there, Representatives Nancy Pelosi also saying that if the rights of people are violated, that there could be criminal charges against federal agents.

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All of this to say, Sara, that as we have seen and covered with the other cities where they have expanded immigration enforcement operations, San Francisco could to be a major flashpoint between, again, these cities and the Trump administration.

SIDNER: Yes, the people in those cities coming out in huge numbers to against the administration. We will have to see what happens going further. I know you'll be tracking it all. Thank you. Priscilla.

Kate.

BOLDUAN: Joining us right now is Republican Congresswoman Lisa McClain of Michigan for much more on this.

It's good to see you, Congresswoman. Thanks so much for being here.

ICE going to San Francisco and the former speaker, Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi, now saying this. "Our state and local authorities may arrest federal agents if they break California law. And if they are convicted, the president cannot pardon them."

What is your reaction to that? This seems to be different than what we've seen in terms of reaction with ICE operations in -- and the such going into other Democratic led cities.

REP. LISA MCCLAIN (R-MI): Listen to what we're talking about. There's one party that is on the side of law and order, and there's the other side that's on the side of the criminals.

Listen, we have a crime problem. We need to make the streets of all. American cities safe. And I don't understand the -- the -- the Democrats or Nancy Pelosi and this group trying to track ICE agents to make sure they're doing their job. How about -- what about the neighborhood watch programs that we used to have that used to say, hey, here's criminal activity that you should be aware of in your area. It's just all you got -- it's a contradiction here. A split screen. And I don't get it. Why aren't we all trying to make our streets safer for the American people? It's baffling to me.

BOLDUAN: We know that the president is focusing his efforts in Democratic led cities and also in Democratic led states, sending in the National Guard and ICE and other federal agents.

Michigan has a Democratic governor, and Detroit has long been led by Democrats and is also one city that was the second -- has the second highest rate of violent crime in 2024. Why hasn't the president sent in the guard or federal agents to Detroit? Do you wish he would, given that it's so high on this list and what you just said?

MCCLAIN: Yes, I don't know why the president hasn't. And my wish list is a little bit different. My list -- my wish is that people would come together for law and order and protect the law-abiding citizens in their communities. And that if -- whether it's Democratic cities or Republican cities, if they need help and they can't clean up their city on their own, that they would ask for help. That would be my wish so we wouldn't have to get into the situation of the president threatening to -- to use the National Guard to clean up the cities. I would hope that we could all work together to make our cities safer for all American people.

BOLDUAN: In Detroit, and in your state, Detroit being one of those top cities.

MCCLAIN: It's terrible.

BOLDUAN: The president's plan now to cut beef prices by importing more from Argentina is getting big push back from cattle ranchers, many in red states.

I want to play for you a cattle rancher from Montana.

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TY THOMPSON, CATTLE SALE MANAGER, BILLINGS LIVESTOCK AND AUCTION YARDS: The cattle market is a free market and always has been. Consumers will tell us when the beef is too high. I think it's outlandish for the president to come out and say that beef is too high and he's going to get it down himself.

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BOLDUAN: I was looking at your district, Congresswoman. You have beef farmers in your district. Is this a problem for you and your district? Are you hearing this? Is this -- is this a bad thing to be importing Argentinian beef?

MCCLAIN: Yes. I mean, I think what the president is trying to do is strike a balance. And it's a very delicate balance between consumer prices, right, which we have to pay attention to because we're digging ourself out of a hole from the last four years, right? We've got to bring consumer prices down. But we also have to -- to strike that balance with the -- with the ranchers, especially the cattle ranchers, of which we do have in our district, to make sure that they don't go out of business.

So, it's a really delicate balance that he's trying to strike here.

BOLDUAN: Yes, and the ranchers saying, like, you're selling us out and free market, which is definitely a long time -- core Republican principle, let the free market decide, not the government, is what the ranchers are saying here. MCCLAIN: Exactly.

BOLDUAN: I have a final question for you as we are -- you're standing in the halls of Congress, but we are in -- I -- I think we're now in day 23. We're in day 20-something of the government shutdown. As far as my eye can see, nothing has changed from day 22 or day 15.

MCCLAIN: Yes.

BOLDUAN: But the -- one -- and when I say nothing has changed is, Democrats are blaming Republicans, Republicans are blaming Democrats for where we are.

Democratic Congresswoman Katherine Clarke sat down with Fox News' Chad Pergram, and he asked her if she thought that the public will perceive that Democrats are responsible in this shutdown.

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I want to play for you what she -- what she said.

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REP. KATHERINE CLARKE (D-MA): I mean, shutdowns are terrible. And of course there will be, you know, families that are going to suffer. We take that responsibility very seriously. But it is one of the few leverage times we have.

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BOLDUAN: Why is the statement from the congresswoman talking about how bad a government shutdown is, why is that upsetting so many Republicans? I've seen response and push out and press release from so many.

MCCLAIN: Listen to what she said. I know Americans will suffer, but I need to use their suffering as leverage. You have a complete contradiction.

The Democrats are going to let the American families suffer. They're going to let pregnant mothers and people who are on WIC not have food to use them as leverage? I mean, you have one party that's using the American people as leverage, and the American people suffering as leverage? And then you have Republicans that are actually trying to serve the American people. Are you kidding me?

I think the American people are extremely upset about this. I can share with you, the people in my community, they don't want their suffering to be used as leverage.

And this is a political stunt. We put out a clean CR, no games, no gimmicks, no partizan wish lists, to continue to govern how government is supposed to work. And Katherine Clarke wants to use suffering families as leverage. Just let that sink in for a minute.

BOLDUAN: The political reality is, you do need to get Democrats on board in order to get it through the Senate when you just look at that math, and that is part of where this stands today.

Congresswoman, thank you very much for coming on. I appreciate your time.

MCCLAIN: Thank you.

BOLDUAN: We will be inviting Katherine Clarke on to respond as well.

Sara.

SIDNER: All right, thank you. Kate.

Overnight, the U.S. struck another alleged drug boat in the Pacific Ocean this time. Now the president is defending the strike and the string of those strikes, saying he's looking to expand the bombing campaign.

And breaking this morning, Miami Heat point guard Terry Rozier and the Portland Trail Blazers head coach arrested in connection to an FBI gambling investigation. New details on that ahead.

Also, how Suzanne Somers husband is keeping her memory alive. And, yes, A.I. is involved.

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SIDNER: All right, we've got some breaking news for you. Miami Heat point guard Terry Rozier and Portland Trail Blazers head coach Chauncey Billups have been arrested in connection to an FBI sports gambling investigation. Next hour, were expecting FBI Director Kash Patel to appear with the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York at a press conference announcing indictments involving -- surrounding those allegations.

All right, CNN's Kara Scannell is joining us now with the latest.

What are you learning about this? This just came in just a few minutes ago.

KARA SCANNELL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, these arrests just happened. and, of course, the Miami Heat guard, Terry Rozier, and Chauncey Billups, the head coach of the Portland Trail Blazers, have been arrested. A third, former NBA player is also charged.

And what law enforcement officials tell us is that there are two separate schemes here. One involved like a game rigging scheme. That involved Terry Rozier. And he allegedly provided information about who was playing in games, who might be on the injury list, to some of the sports bettors that he was involved with. And he benefited himself financially. According to one official, he bowed out of a game faking an injury about nine minutes in to help whatever bet had been placed on that game.

And there is a separate alleged scheme, and that's the one that allegedly involves the coach of the Trail Blazers. And in that alleged scheme, that also involves three families from the New York mafia families, the Genovese, the Bonanno and the Gambino crime families, that this is a scheme, according to sources, that involved playing Texas Holdem and that Billups was part of that scheme, attending these games. And according to one official, his attendance was there to be used as sort of a distraction to some of the other players who were playing, all part of a poker ring. So, two separate sports betting schemes that they're announcing today.

And we will, of course, learn much greater detail about what all of this entails next hour when we do expect to see the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of New York, the NYPD police chief, as well as FBI Director Kash Patel kind of laying out the breadth of these two alleged schemes. And we'll find out how much money is actually involved in all of this.

SIDNER: Yes, those details should be coming out in not too much time. Certainly today. And, of course, they are innocent until proven guilty. But these allegations are some really surprising ones that we've gotten this morning.

Thank you so much.

I'm going to also bring in Christine Brennan, CNN sports analyst and sports columnist for "USA Today."

What are the rules with the NBA because some of the gambling policies, because some of these policies have been lessened and lightened over time, but, first of all, did it shock you to hear this, that these two people were caught up in all of this? And second of all, like, what are the rules that are being followed? Because sports betting has become huge in this country.

CHRISTINE BRENNAN, CNN SPORTS ANALYST: Sara, as you know, it is huge. And it's almost like, when was this going to happen? Here it's happened. This bombshell. And, of course, the timing could not be worse for the NBA, just starting its season. The grand opening. Every team having its first game. Just as big a story as you could have. And then this bombshell drops right into the middle of it. Of course, as it should in terms of investigation. You know, national investigation. Of course you don't wait for a better time. But for the NBA, could not be worse.

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And so, yes, it -- on one level it's shocking because you just can't believe, especially a name like Chauncey Billups. If you've even just casually followed the NBA, you know that name. He's 50 years old. A great career. A lot with the Detroit Pistons. Now a head coach. He's the leader of the team. And now he is alleged to have been involved, as Kara was saying, in this incredible scandal. Again, innocent until proven guilty. And then also a player who's been around. Rozier, who's been around and drafted first in -- a few years ago by the Boston Celtics. So, we're not talking about rookies. We're not talking about people that have not been in the game, have not heard the rules. I think what happens in a -- in a situation like this, Sara, is where

you have gambling literally enveloping sports. And we know this. Every commercial, you turn -- you know, you walk away, you're back. It's something sponsored by a betting, a gambling company. That this is the kind of thing that is probably a disaster, potential disaster, alleged disaster waiting to happen. And as I said, I don't think we should be that shocked. And I don't think this, sadly, will be the last of these kinds of stories.

SIDNER: This is literally coming as the NCAA, college sports, the division one athletes, they're looking at allowing them to place bets on professional sports. So, as you said, it's sort of the breadth of this could be quite huge. What do you make of that?

BRENNAN: Well, yes. And, you know, hey, you -- you played sports at a high level. And I certainly played sports my whole life. The idea that something that you want to be able to trust, right, the whole foundation of sports is that what you're watching is real and that there's no funny business, no shady dealings going on.

SIDNER: Right.

BRENNAN: And if that comes crumbling down, then potentially, clearly, that's a huge issue for the -- in terms of any sport. But you had Shohei Ohtani's interpreter ensnared in something. So that's baseball.

SIDNER: Right.

BRENNAN: As you said, college sports. These are younger athletes, 18 to 22, 23 years old. Even probably more impressionable and more apt to be able to be caught in something this terrible.

SIDNER: Thank you to you, Christine Brennan, and to you, Kara Scannell. We are waiting for that press conference that we're expecting to hear more details about this breaking news that an athlete and a coach from the NBA have been ensnared in a gambling scheme. We will hear more about that coming up.

All right, also coming up, President Trump vows his tariff policies can bring down the price of beef, but cattle ranchers are calling bull.

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SIDNER: New this morning. Google is abandoning a key initiative aimed at increasing the number of women in tech. This is another blow to increasing diversity as companies face political pressure from the Trump administration to drop DEI programs. Now, while the program will transition to a nonprofit, members say it leaves them without a direct career pipeline to the tech giant.

Let's go to CNN media correspondent Hadas Gold.

What are you learning there live in San Francisco for us? HADAS GOLD, CNN MEDIA CORRESPONDENT: Yes, there's been a decline in

support and funding for women in tech programs for the last couple of years. But once the Trump administration took office and they really started targeting DEI, we really saw them start to fall like dominoes. And the latest here is coming from Google.

So, Google had a program called Women Techmakers. It started in 2012. It's a global program for people who work at Google or who do not. And people would go to events, they could get trainings, and the really involved ones could be named ambassadors. They would even get funding from Google, even if they didn't work there, to attend Google developer events.

But in February, shortly after the Trump administration took office, Google announced to its employees that they were going to be ending diversity initiatives and things like their quotas of trying to hire more diverse people in the workforce. This was a direct result of President Trump's executive orders because Google is a federal contractor.

And then a couple of weeks ago, in October, Google sent out a short email to all members of the Women Techmakers program. I obtained this email, saying that this program would be ending at Google and would be transitioning to a nonprofit.

And the woman I spoke to who are a part of this program from around the world, they are devastated. They think Tech Innovations is, which is this new nonprofit, is a great program, but they are concerned that they're not going to have the same sort of funding and the direct pipeline to Google and Google programs.

And what was even more devastating for them is that Google removed all the content of -- that the Women Techmakers participated in and did from things like YouTube. This is what one woman told me, Sherry Yang, she's from Canada. She said, "everything that I ever hosted and facilitated for Women Techmakers is gone and there are just as many ambassadors who were in the community that put in so much effort to be part of this and their history is just erased."

You know, I've been talking to a lot of these women in tech from around the world. They see what is happening out there. They see what is happening politically. And they just feel as though they are being left out to dry as a result of this politics.

One woman I spoke to, she said -- she's from Greece. She says, "the message it sends to women in tech and really women in general is that we cannot count on unwavering support from big corporations that they need to keep speaking up until they are heard." She said, "Google helped them "do that, and" then "they decided to quietly turn their backs on us."

Google declined to comment to me. I did speak with the CEO of Tech Innovations. They say that Google is funding and supporting them, as -- and they do plan to continue and expand the mission to build on what Women Techmakers built. But the women see the writing on the wall, and they see how these corporations are treating these diversity programs.

I spoke to one expert in the field of workplace diversity, and he said, it kind of doesn't matter if these programs return or what -- or not. What really matters is what the companies do in the workplace and how they treat their workers, that everybody feels valued and respected there.

Guys.

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SIDNER: All right, Hadas Gold, thank you for that great reporting for us this morning. Appreciate you.

Kate.