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Utah Launches First State-approved A.I. For Prescription Renewals; 2025 Rough Year For Job Seekers; Protests Heat Up In Minnesota After ICE Shooting; Hennepin County Attorney Asks Public To Submit Evidence In ICE Shooting; Trump Meets Oil Executives At White House About Venezuela; U.S. State Department Team Arrives In Venezuela; U.S. Seizes Another Oil Tanker Off Coast of Venezuela; ICE Agent's Cellphone Captures Fatal Confrontation In Minneapolis. Aired 2-2:30p ET

Aired January 09, 2026 - 14:00   ET

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DR. ADAM OSKOWITZ, CO-FOUNDER, DOCTRONIC: It's not going to be replacing the human conversations that need to be taking place between a doctor and a patient.

BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN CO-ANCHOR OF "CNN NEWS CENTRAL": All right. I have so many more questions, but we are out of time. Dr. Adam Oskowitz, it's been really great to speak with you. And this story, no doubt, is going to continue. Thanks for being with us.

OSKOWITZ: Thanks for having me.

KEILAR: A new hour of "CNN News Central" starts right now.

Oil on the agenda. President Trump meets with top oil execs this hour at the White House as his administration focuses on the future of Venezuela and its untapped reserves. And a dismal Jobs Report misses expectations and suggests an economy where many industries have essentially stopped hiring. We'll break down the numbers.

And calls for justice in Minneapolis, officials want a say in the investigation after an ICE agent killed a woman there. The community is demanding accountability. We're following these major developing stories and many more, all coming in right here to "CNN News Central."

We do begin with Breaking News on the deadly ICE shooting in Minneapolis. It's a tense situation between protesters and federal agents that we have been watching unfold as we speak. Local and state officials, at this moment, demanding the federal government allow them to have a role in the investigation. At least one county attorney is saying the FBI is now blocking her office from seeing evidence, including the vehicle that Renee Good was in when she was shot and killed.

She is now urging the public to directly submit any evidence to them. So let's go to CNN's Whitney Wild who is live just outside of Minneapolis. What's the latest there, Whitney? WHITNEY WILD, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT CORRESPONDENT: Well now, things are calm. You're still seeing law enforcement and protesters sort of face off here. But you hear music playing and this is not nearly as tense as it had been. Earlier, we saw a couple of arrests. I spoke with the two people who were taken into custody after a woman slapped the back of a law enforcement vehicle.

And she said, they took her into custody along with her partner. They took them inside and she said, they didn't really seem to know what to do with them and then they let them out within a few minutes. So that is the latest here on the ground.

The investigation is really the focus now. As you heard, Minnesota lawmakers, Minnesota leaders are demanding the opportunity for Minnesota investigators to join the investigation into this shooting. The FBI and the U.S. Attorney's Office has made clear they have no plans to do that. They have taken over solely, completely this investigation and that means that investigators here cannot have access to the raw materials and they can't even have access to the investigative materials.

So, they can't process the vehicle and they can't even process any investigative materials that would be associated with that vehicle. Here's more from the Hennepin County Attorney.

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MARY MORIARTY, HENNEPIN COUNTY, MINNESOTA ATTORNEY: If there is evidence to review, we have jurisdiction to make that decision. So let me be clear here. We do have jurisdiction to make this decision that happened in this case where her life was taken in Hennepin County. It does not matter that it was a federal law enforcement agent.

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WILD: Right now, what you're seeing is a vehicle -- all right, they're moving into the crowd here because it looks like there's a construction vehicle that's trying to put down more concrete pylons. Earlier we saw, I don't know if you guys can hear me, earlier we saw somebody measuring the width of the driveway that goes into the building. So I'm thinking he's going to put that concrete pylon for the entrance to that building. But we'll have to see how this plays out right now.

But, any motions like this really upset the protesters out here. So we may see a little more interaction between the federal law enforcement here and the protesters. I'll tell you a little bit quickly, what people have told me in the crowd. I've spoken with two people, one man who told me he's an ER doctor, another man who told me he's a former Navy SEAL who used to come to reserve meetings here at Fort Snelling. And they're both very upset by what they saw.

They're angry and they felt like it was important to come here and actually talk to these federal law enforcement. The former Navy SEAL telling me he said to that man, why, you know -- one of these federal law enforcement officers, why are you doing this? And so, this cuts really deeply for many of the protesters here who are very angry about what they saw and feel like it is absolutely necessary for democracy for them to come out here and make their voices heard. Back to you.

KEILAR: And Whitney, I can hear you. I hope you can hear me. We're learning some new details today about the ICE agent involved. Is that right? Can you share anything?

WILD: That's right. So we're learning more about his background and really, there was a critical incident over the summer that Vice President, J.D. Vance thinks should inform how people look at this incident. So here's what happened.

Last summer, this ICE officer was trying to arrest a man who was wanted for sexually assaulting a teenage relative. When he went to try to arrest that suspect, the suspect would not surrender to arrest.

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So, he broke through the back window of the vehicle and tried to reach in, and that's when the suspect sped off, dragging that officer 100 yards. In that incident, he suffered injuries. His right arm was cut so deeply that the ICE officer required 20 stitches. His left hand was cut, requiring 13 stitches. In that case, court records show that he testified about having made hundreds of traffic stops in his time with ICE and also with Border Patrol, and said that he has often interacted with drivers who intend to flee.

And in those cases, according to the court testimony we've reviewed, he said that quite often these drivers are erratic and they seem to have no regard for the safety and security of those around them. Again, Vice President J. D. Vance saying that that should inform how people look at this and said that this officer should be offered more grace and more gratitude. However, people see it from other -- people here see it completely differently and see the set of facts completely differently.

And witnesses have told us, they don't see anything and did not see anything at the time of this incident that would suggest that the ICE officer was in great danger at the time. So, you still have two completely different reads of the situation here. But again, that is what we're learning about the ICE officer involved here.

And then finally, he had experience with the National Guard. He was a gunner in Iraq from 2004 to 2005, Brianna.

KEILAR: All right, Whitney Wild. Thank you so much for the latest there. And President Trump's vow to revamp Venezuela's flailing oil industry is about to face its first major test, that is convincing American oil companies to get on board. Moments from now, the president is hosting executives from more than a dozen of those companies at the White House.

But even before that meeting, President Trump is making some big promises, announcing on social media that the companies will invest at least $100 billion in Venezuela. CNN's Kristen Holmes and Jennifer Hansler are tracking all of the details on this. Kristen, getting these companies involved, especially the big ones, as we understand it, is going to be tough. But it's central to the Trump's administration -- the Trump administration's plans when it comes to Venezuela. What's the sell to those companies today?

KRISTEN HOLMES, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Well, Brianna, we still aren't sure exactly what the administration is going to offer them. We know that this is critical, as you said, to the administration's plan. They know that they need billions of dollars to be invested back into Venezuela in order to rebuild the infrastructure, the oil infrastructure on the ground there.

They're going to need bodies. They're going to need equipment. But there are still a lot of concerns that these big oil companies have. You saw President Trump there saying $100 billion that they've pledged to put that back into Venezuela. We have not heard from any of these major oil companies saying that they've pledged any money.

And in fact, what we're hearing is that there's going to have to be a lot that's guaranteed by the administration to get them to go back into Venezuela. First and foremost, they're going to need security guarantees. They need to know that their people and their equipment are safe. And you heard Chris Wright, the Secretary of Energy, kind of talking about this, saying that in order to get these companies back in, the government was going to be -- need to be stable.

Of course, the question is, what does that mean in terms of the government being stable? What kind of long-term planning are these oil executives going to need? Remember, there are only so many promises that President Trump and this administration can make because he's only in office for so long before the next president comes along. And these oil executives know that.

Now, the other thing that we have heard, and Chris Wright alluded to this during an interview recently, was this idea that perhaps based on these new recent oil that the United States has obtained from Venezuela, there seems to be some indication they would give some of the proceeds to these oil companies for money that they lost last time they are in Venezuela. That's something they could offer them.

Remember, there are a number of major oil companies who essentially had to pull out of Venezuela, who say they are owed billions of dollars from that time. That's one of the things they could offer. But again, there's a long list of things these oil companies say they need to hear before they say they're going to invest back into Venezuela.

KEILAR: Yes, certainly. And Jennifer, we've also learned that a team from the U. S. State Department arrived in Venezuela today for the first time since Nicolas Maduro was captured. What are they hoping to accomplish?

JENNIFER HANSLER, CNN STATE DEPARTMENT REPORTER: Well, this, Brianna, is kind of the first step in the efforts to potentially re-establish a diplomatic presence on the ground in Venezuela. We have not had a functional embassy in some six years. Back in 2019, the State Department withdrew all of its personnel and suspended operations there after a diplomatic spat between the first Trump administration and Nicolas Maduro over the Trump administration's recognition of the Opposition Leader, Juan Guaido, as president. So that has essentially been an empty building for more than half a decade.

So they're going to go to that compound, this small team led by the Acting Ambassador to Colombia, John McNamara, as well as a group of security and diplomatic personnel.

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They're going to go and see what would need to be done to potentially reopen. We're told this would be a phased reopening of the embassy on the ground. This is important because former diplomats say in order to actually have these efforts, what President Trump says about running the country, actually be effective, you will need a U.S. presence on the ground there.

To the point Kristen was making about these oil companies' concerns about security, you would need a diplomatic conduit to be able to secure anything for U.S. companies there. We've heard from the Venezuelan foreign ministry as well. They acknowledge that there was a team on the ground, that they are starting this process to potentially, not only have the U.S. re-establish their presence there, but also have Venezuela re-establish a presence here.

Of course, this is not expected to be a full reopening anytime soon. There would need to be security for U.S. personnel on the ground. There could be a lot of work needed on the embassy itself.

At the same time, we have seen the administration also keep up their pressure campaign on the interim Venezuelan government. We heard from U.S. officials this morning that they once again seized another sanctioned oil vessel. This is the Olena that they said was in international waters in the Caribbean. They said it was carrying sanctioned oil. This has been described as part and parcel of the Trump administration's campaign to get the interim government to cooperate there. Brianna?

KEILAR: Jennifer Hansler and Kristen Holmes, thank you so much for the reporting. And still to come, some jobs numbers released today showing that 2025 was the worst year for hiring in more than two decades. What does that mean for the economy ahead? Plus, Iran has signaled that a major crackdown could be on the way for protesters, despite warnings from President Trump that the U.S. would intervene.

And then later, concerns rising over the measles and the flu after new numbers reveal some troubling trends. We'll have that and much more coming up on "CNN News Central."

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KEILAR: Let's head straight to Hennepin County, Minnesota, right outside of Minneapolis, where our Whitney Wild is outside of the federal building where ICE stages. Whitney just set the scene for us. Last we spoke with you, we saw that there appeared to be some new concrete stanchions that were being put up, but now there appear to be some more protesters arriving.

WILD: Yeah, sorry, we're getting pepper sprayed now, so forgive me, I have to pull my shirt up to talk to you, if you guys can still hear me. So here's what just happened. There are a few, a handful of people here who are -- you hear that song, "Ice Ice Baby," they're playing that. They're saying we love ICE and they're getting in the mix with the crowd.

And this is someone who seems here intent on agitating these protesters, saying that he loves ICE, and he's getting in the mix again with a couple of other folks here. So here's what you're seeing. There's federal law enforcement moving out, pushing the crowd back. They've let off dozens at this point of pepper balls to try to move the crowd back. They've gotten pepper balls we've seen go as far in as the parking lot here across the street.

This came just minutes after they put down those new concrete pylons, so that no one would be able to drive or even really walk into the driveway here at the federal building or in St. Paul. So, this is the type of thing we're seeing throughout the day, where protesters are clashing with federal law enforcement.

Federal law enforcement has a low bar for anything that they think is about to get out of control. So when they started to see this clash between protesters and this lone sort of anti-protester, they started -- they intervened and began to push the crowd back.

And now you're seeing, you're not seeing it right at this moment, but minutes ago, we saw them detonate pepper balls at the crowd here. Back to you guys.

KEILAR: And so (inaudible) explain to us, this has been a bit of a change over the course of the day, and you've been there throughout the day, Whitney. So take us through kind of what you've seen, because there have been moments where things have been calm and there have been moments where they have been tense.

WILD: Right. Right, absolutely. So there -- that's absolutely right. This picked up, again, when there was that anti-protester here, again, someone who says that he's pro-ICE. And so, like you're saying, , throughout the day, it sort of ebbs and flows. This is a bigger crowd than we've seen so far.

Earlier today, we saw a couple of people who were detained after one woman slapped the side of a law enforcement vehicle. We really see the agitation pick up when they start to get close to law enforcement or they feel like law enforcement is pushing them back. But it has been pretty calm. We've only seen a couple of flare-ups until this point.

This, I think, so far is the most dramatic flare-up we've seen between the protesters here and federal law enforcement, Brianna.

KEILAR: All right. Whitney Wild, keep an eye on things there for us in Hennepin County, Minnesota. We want to get straight to some Breaking News, because CNN has obtained video from an ICE officer's cell phone that captures the confrontation with Renee Good, a DHS official confirming the video was recorded on the agent's cell phone camera. A warning that there is graphic video in this, there is bad language, and this is obviously just a piece of what transpired during this time in question. So let's go ahead and play this.

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RENEE GOOD, SHOT AND KILLED BY ICE OFFICER: That's fine, dude. I'm not mad at you.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Show your face.

GOOD: I'm not mad at you.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's OK, we don't change our plates every morning, just so you know. It'll be the same plate when you come talk to us later. That's fine. U.S. citizen, former (inaudible). You want to come at us? You want to come at us? I say go get yourself some lunch, big boy. Go ahead.

Get out of the car. Get out of the [expletive] car. Get out of the car.

Get out of the [expletive] car. Woah. [expletive] bitch.

[Shots fired]

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KEILAR: CNN's Josh Campbell is standing by to walk us through this. We also have John Miller with us, who we'll bring in here momentarily. Josh, take us through this.

JOSH CAMPBELL, CNN SENIOR CORRESPONDENT: Well, this is a critical new angle. This was the actual vantage point of the officer, and we know that not many immigration officers actually wear body-worn cameras. But in this instance, the immigration agent was holding his phone up, essentially filming this encounter, which we can now see in this video obtained by our colleague, Holmes Lybrand.

So in the video, you see that the officers are making contact with Renee Good there. She's parked somewhat perpendicular in a street, and there's another woman that's there, which is outside the vehicle, and you can tell as the exchange there with Renee Good that she's being somewhat pleasant. The other woman is kind of mouthy, and this is obviously a bit tense.

She tells the agent at one point, why don't you go get some lunch, big boy? You also see critically, and I'll get to this in a second, bystanders behind the vehicle. We've seen other angles. This one shows us, again, the vantage point of that officer.

Another agent orders Renee Good out of the vehicle. This agent then walks around. That is the moment that she then takes off, and on that audio, what we hear, it appears that you can actually hear friction on the phone.

It appears from other angles that the agent was indeed struck by that vehicle, but you hear on the audio, it appears friction on the phone. That could be from the vehicle strike. That could be from the phone on his clothing, but then it appears three shots were fired after that, and then you hear afterwards, someone, it appears maybe an immigration agent who was there, actually used profanity, calling her an F-ing B, which we heard on the audio there.

Now, let's talk about the tactics for a second. So, I could tell you this as a former federal agent that law enforcement officers can use deadly force only when necessary, when they believe that there is an imminent threat to their life. In this instance, you have a moving vehicle that's coming at that agent. Now the driver, Renee Good, did turn the wheel to the right, so it appears that she wasn't coming head-on at that agent, trying to mow him over.

But nevertheless, an agent in that split-second decision would have to make that calculation. Am I in danger? Is my life threatened here? Agents are also taught, what are other options? Could you move out of the way? That's why this has been such a contentious issue here, the judgment, the decision of that agent to actually open fire. We've heard, obviously, people supporting that decision, others being quite critical.

One other thing I want to note is that when agents undergo training, and not just the feds, but law enforcement across the country, it is a cardinal rule that you are responsible for every round that you fire. And one key component of that is, to the extent that you have the time and you can, you must be aware of what is beyond your shot, what is in the background. Here, it appears from that video that this other woman who had been engaging in the agent -- with the agent, was quite clearly in the line of fire, but there were also other people that were standing behind that car on the sidewalk, and this is a residential area.

And so, I'm sure that will face some scrutiny as well. The officer opening fire at that moment, directly, it appears towards those other people beyond the shot, and then his partners, and you brought this up, Brianna, just the other day, his partners are there in close range as well. And so, this will be heavily scrutinized from a tactical perspective as well, about the officer opening fire.

But again, just critical, critical new video here that we're seeing, an important angle, what the officer would have been seeing in the moment.

KEILAR: Yeah, the other officers from the other vantage point have a pronounced sort of physical reaction as the shooting happens as well. Josh, please stand by, I do want to come back to you. Let's go though to Charles Ramsey, former Washington, D.C. Police Chief. Chief, you're seeing this new angle, what stands out to you?

CHARLES RAMSEY, CNN SENIOR LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST: Well, as Josh said, it is a critical piece of evidence. When you look at it and you see him walking around the vehicle, and you can see Ms. Good in the way in which she is interacting with the officer, she certainly doesn't seem like a threat at all and she does seem to be pleasant.

The other individual, of course, is making comments. But again, it's not a tense -- what I would call a tense situation. What I see in this that's different from what I've seen in other angles, number one, I wasn't aware that the woman wearing the checkered color shirt was trying to get in the car at the same time the agent was pulling on the other side of the car.

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That's something that's different from what we've seen. And then, of course, you can hear the gunshots, and then you hear the cursing that took place afterwards. I don't know if that's the shooting officer, if it's another officer that used that language or not.

But as Josh mentioned earlier, and I think this is something that is critically important as well, and part of it's going to require the medical examiner report to really determine, when you're in a deadly force situation and you have to discharge your firearm, you have to account for every single round that's fired.

It's not just treated as just, you know, once you're -- if you've justified use of force and every round that follows is justified. The first round clearly is from the front of the vehicle or somewhat on the front, off to the side, you can see the windshield. But the second and third shot are really what concerns me, because I believe from the other videos we saw, that was on the side of the car.

Now, cars can move either forward or they cannot move backwards. They cannot move to the side. So once the car is past you, to continue to fire, that's an issue, and it's going to have to be looked at very carefully by those that are conducting the investigation. So they'll use this video, coupled with all the other videos, to try to get a complete picture of what actually took place.

KEILAR: Are you confident they will, Chief? You've heard --

RAMSEY: No.

KEILAR: -- in a way that -- you're not confident they will. And why is that?

RAMSEY: No, I'll tell you why. The current environment that we're in, and listen, there are good people in the FBI, there's no question. I'm not challenging that. But the fact that, you had the head of Homeland Security come out before she had any information and pretty much exonerate the officer, the Vice President of the United States, the President of the United States, you're going to be hard-pressed to have a report come out that, as far as the public is concerned, and it doesn't mean it's not a good, thorough investigation, it'd be a great investigation.

But it's not going to be credible in the eyes of many, many people, simply because of the rush to judgment by many people who did so without any facts to really back up their opinion. And I think they've tainted this thing to a point where having the FBI by itself conduct the investigation is going to be problematic in the eyes of a lot of people.

KEILAR: Yeah, it is interesting you point out that there was someone trying to get into the vehicle on the other side. It speaks to how you really need to see all of these different angles, because you just don't know all of the specifics about the different movement, the different people in the environment.

John Miller, our CNN Chief Law Enforcement and Intelligence Analyst, is with us now. John, to you, what stands out here?

JOHN MILLER, CNN CHIEF LAW ENFORCEMENT AND INTELLIGENCE ANALYST: Well, what stands out is, A, it's another angle. That makes it helpful to start with. B, it's the closest thing that we are going to have, in all likelihood, to the near equivalent of a body cam for this officer, because he's not wearing a body cam. He's shooting this with his phone, handheld, in one hand.

He gives us a full 360-degree walk around the car, and as Chuck Ramsey said, you know, the first person seems to be saying, I'm not mad at you and the second person's saying, we don't wear masks and we don't change plates, and we'll see you later. Not a highly tense situation. But at this moment here, on the other side, they're saying, out of the car, out of the car. Those are other agents, and then you see the car go into gear.

It sounds like the car strikes the agent. We can't see that because we know from the other angle, two things are happening right then. Number one, the hand with the phone is going down, and number two, the hand with the gun is coming up. So, and it appears from that angle that he takes these shots with one hand. So, I think we learned a lot from this video. Part of what we learned is, we can't make factual assumptions only from the other videos. You really have to look at all of them and come to some collective forensic judgment with those comparisons.

KEILAR: There are no body cams, to our knowledge, right here. Would it have been better to have a body cam rather than the officer holding their own camera, so that they could have been hands-free? I mean, can you speak to that?

MILLER: Yeah, 100 percent. So, let's talk about DHS, ICE, and body cams. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement is in the process of going through a body cam program where they say they hope to equip all of their agents with the ability to have and use body cams. In Chicago, they were at the beginning of that program, and they sent all their body cams to Chicago because the federal judge said that, we will only allow agents with body.