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ICE Agent's Cellphone Captures Fatal Confrontation in Minneapolis; ICE Agent's Video Captures Pivotal Moments Surrounding Fatal Shooting; Protesters Face Off With Federal Agents After MN ICE Shooting; MN Officials Say FBI Blocked Them From ICE Shooting Probe; Now: Trump Meets Oil Executives At White House About Venezuela; U.S. Seizes Another Oil Tanker Off Coast Of Venezuela. Aired 3-3:30p ET

Aired January 09, 2026 - 15:00   ET

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ANNOUNCER: This is CNN Breaking News.

BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN HOST: We do begin with breaking news on the deadly ICE shooting in Minneapolis. Protests are once again heating up as newly obtained video of the confrontation is now circulating. This is video from a new angle that we are seeing -- not this right here, to be clear, but we will show it to you in a moment. A DHS official confirms the video was recorded on the ICE agent's cellphone, and the vice president has since shared it, saying it supports the administration's version of events.

A warning, as we look at the tensions there in Hennepin County, as protesters are outside the federal building where ICE stages. This video that you are about to see there is profanity. It is disturbing. Here it is.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That's fine, dude. I'm not mad at you. Show your face. I'm not mad at you.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's okay. We don't change our plates every morning. Just so you know. It'll be the same plate when you come talk to us later. That's fine. You have citizens, former (expletive) (INAUDIBLE) you want to come at us? You want to come at us? I say go get yourself some lunch, big boy. Go ahead.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Get out of the car. Get out of the car. Get out of the (expletive) car. Get out of the car.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE) ...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (Expletive), bitch ...

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KEILAR: Let's go to Josh Campbell. Josh, what stands out to you in this new video?

JOSH CAMPBELL, CNN SECURITY CORRESPONDENT: Well, this new video obtained by our colleague Holmes Lybrand provides us this critical vantage point. This was from the agent himself, who was filming this encounter on his cellphone as he was walking around this car. Now, we've talked in the past about when agents are allowed to use deadly force. They can do so if they believe that their life is in imminent danger or there's a serious threat of injury to themselves or someone else.

Here what we see is that Renee Good, after the agent circumnavigates that vehicle, she then turns the wheel to the right and then begins to take off. And we can't see the strike, but we've seen on other angles that it does appear she strikes that agent, and he then opens fire.

This video offers one other critical clue that we haven't talked about yet, and that is where Renee Good appeared to be looking whenever she was driving away. It wasn't clear in other angles whether she was distracted looking to her left at the other agent or whether she actually could see the agent in front of her. It appears she's staring straight ahead whenever she turns the wheel and then begins to take off.

Now, there were obviously questions raised about judgment here. Could the agent have jumped out of the way? This was a split-second decision. One thing I think we also haven't mentioned is the climate there. It appeared snowy and icy, and so even if the agent could, you know, have lunged, all that will be factored in during the investigation.

But one thing I want to note, which is very important, and that is what we can see in the tactics here. I mean, I can tell you law enforcement officers are trained that they have to account for every single round they fire. They have to be aware to the extent that time allows what is beyond their target. In this case, it appears there are bystanders standing behind the vehicle in the direction of fire. There are also residences around as well, and so that will be a big question.

When the agent made that split-second decision, was he factoring in that type of training to actually understand, you know, what may have been beyond that target? We, obviously, now know no one else was struck, Renee Good was fatally killed, but that's all going to be part of this investigation, which we can talk about more.

KEILAR: Yes, certainly. We do get, obviously, some new views in this video.

Josh, thank you so much for that.

Let's go to Whitney Wild, who's been watching tense moments with protesters. What are you seeing there, Whitney? Well, now we're seeing moments of calm. Earlier, it got pretty clashy when a man who said that he was pro-ICE and had balloons that were in a heart shape, and another man was carrying a don't tread on me flag, and they came into the crowd, and it looked like they were pretty intent on engaging with the crowd. And so, when that happened, there did appear to be the beginnings of a scuffle between that man and the couple people who were with him and then the rest of the crowd.

And when that happened, as I was saying before, law enforcement here has a pretty low bar for what they think presents a real risk. And so, they're moving in and trying to tamp those things down as quickly as possible. So, when we saw that, we saw law enforcement detonate a lot of pepper balls.

I'll show you just to kind of give you a sense of how far away this all went. Let me show you what I see on the ground here. So, there's little, you know, pockets of this detonated pepper ball here, this powder here. They're small. They're like the size of a marble. And there's a bunch of spots here where you can see this is, you know, dozens of yards away from where federal law enforcement is.

So, that gives you a sense of how far back they were pushing the crowd. This -- again, this is a moment of calm. What we've seen throughout the day is a change, not just, you know, at times in the way that they're interacting, but we were also seeing physical changes here at the building.

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There are concrete barriers that have been put up in a couple of different spots here, but for the most part, again, it is calm. We're seeing a couple of flare ups. We saw two people who were arrested earlier after a woman slap the side of a law enforcement vehicle. Agents jumped out, arrested her, arrested the man who was with her, and then minutes later, actually, they were released. And they told us that inside, actually, everybody was perfectly nice, and they seemed to not really know what to do with them and then they released them and they went back -- right back into the crowd.

But there are so many different types of people here. I spoke with one man who's an ER doctor, another man who said that he's a former Navy SEAL. He's -- here is what he told me about why he thinks it's so important to be out here.

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The guy in charge right now is anti-democracy. That's the thing. That's what makes this wrong. This guy is ripping us apart, our community. So, he's -- he's got us looking at Greenland. We're going to take over another country? This will rip apart NATO? I mean, it's not just unraveling from the inside. The stuff that we're threatening as far as aggressions towards other countries, that's the stuff I fought for, was preventing that. And now you're going to go willy- nilly and try to take over Greenland. This is wrong?

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WILD: Here's the latest on the investigation. What we know for sure is that federal law enforcement is not allowing Minnesota investigators to take any part in this. At this point, Minnesota investigators here, including the Hennepin County attorney and the state's attorney general, say they have no access to any of the evidence that was obtained by the FBI.

They say that is making it very difficult to do a complete investigation, although the Hennepin County attorney and the attorney general today jointly said that they're asking for the public to give them as much evidence as possible. Still asking for witness testimony, video photos, things like that, so that they can conduct some kind of investigation while acknowledging that it will not be to the standard that they had hoped for. Back to you.

KEILAR: Whitney Wild, thank you so much for the update from Hennepin County.

And with us now is Minneapolis City Council member Jason Chavez, who represents the area where the shooting happened.

Jason, what is your reaction to Minnesota -- Minnesota saying that it's essentially being cut out of this investigative process and that the feds have taken it over?

JASON CHAVEZ, MINNEAPOLIS CITY COUNCIL MEMBER: We need the federal government to allow Minneapolis and the city of Minnesota to step in to make sure that this is a fair investigation, because everybody, the whole world saw this ICE agent murder Nicole Good on broad daylight, and we need to make sure that justice is served.

KEILAR: Can you trust a federal investigation? I mean, if you do get a result and it seems that it is done in a diligent manner, can -- will you trust the result?

CHAVEZ: I do not trust the federal government to have the best intentions to address the concerns that our community has seen here in South Minneapolis, which was the murder of Nicole Good, Renee Nicole Good. And we want to make sure that the state can help in this situation.

KEILAR: It seems like an argument we keep hearing from allies of the Trump administration and those in the Trump administration is you have people like Renee Good putting themselves in danger by obstructing or getting in the middle of ICE operations. What do you say to that?

CHAVEZ: I think folks can see the videos for themselves. Renee and her loved ones had whistles and these ICE agents had guns and they took the life of one of our community members. So, when you see what our neighbors who are unarmed getting shot and killed, it tells you how unbalanced the situation is and how unfair and unjust the murder of Renee Nicole Good was.

And what we're seeing here in South Minneapolis is ICE agents creating chaos in our neighborhoods. They're literally going after innocent people and splitting families apart, tearing lives apart, folks going to buses, folks going to school, folks going to daycares. And we just want them out of our neighborhood, out of the city and out of the state. KEILAR: You're calling for Minneapolis and Minnesota, quote, "to rise

up, to do everything in their power to defend immigrant neighbors, to continue to observe the illegal actions by ICE, to blow your whistle when you see immigration enforcement in your neighborhood."

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What do you see as the line between protesting, community observing and obstructing immigration enforcement operations or even maybe some people conducting themselves in a manner that you see as acceptable, but that could put them in danger? I mean, how are you seeing that?

CHAVEZ: I mean, our neighbors are exercising their legal rights and they are observing and they are recording to make sure that ICE agents are not breaking the law, which is what we are seeing today is what we have been seeing for the past five weeks, where you have federal law enforcement, federal ICE agents arresting and kidnapping individuals without warrants, breaking car windows without warrants, dragging people out of their cars, profiling people because of the color of their skin.

What the federal government and ICE is doing is completely illegal. And we need individuals to record these instances of abuses by ICE to make sure that we can go to court and address these issues as much as we can.

KEILAR: You push to strengthen the city's separation ordinance that limits coordination between the city's police department and federal immigration authorities. It was strengthened last month. There have been other jurisdictions where you have seen law enforcement not sort of collaborating. They're not working hand in hand with federal immigration officials, but they're having a kind of a presence in the interest of preserving peace, liaising in a -- in a way with the community.

Is there a role for Minneapolis PD to do something like that? Is there a middle ground here somewhere between, you know, collaborating and being fully separate as that separation ordinance spells out?

CHAVEZ: Well, what I'll say is that the city of Minneapolis will not be doing the federal government's work of enforcing federal immigration law. That is up to the federal government to do that work. That is not the role of city government. What we do know, though, is that we have residents here who want to step up, and they want to help our immigrant neighbors, because what they see happening is families being torn apart by this federal administration unjustly, and it is not filled with love and care. It is filled with hate and a goal to separate families, and that's not anything that Minneapolis residents here will stand for, and they will do what they need to do to make sure their families can stay together, which is why you're hearing people blow their whistles, which is why you're hearing -- seeing people deliver groceries to their neighbors, which is why you're seeing neighbors drive their loved ones, their neighbors to work and back to make sure that people can be safe in the city that they call home, because this is their home. This is our neighbor's home, and it's going to stay that way. KEILAR: Jason Chavez, I know your community is hurting. I appreciate

you speaking with us. Thank you so much.

CHAVEZ: Thank you.

KEILAR: A high-stakes meeting at the White House right now. We are looking at some live pictures as President Trump hosts oil executives. Let's listen in.

DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: This will be even lower energy prices. We have people now getting gasoline for $1.99, $1.96, $1.95, $1.92 yesterday, somebody, and it used to be $3.50, $4, $5 a gallon. Think of that, $1.99.

Decades ago, the United States built Venezuela's oil industry at tremendous expense with American skill, technology, know-how, and dollars. But those assets were stolen from us, and we had presidents did nothing about it. This president is much different than your other presidents. They did nothing about it. They stole it. Some of the people in this room were a little bit younger when that happened, but not that much younger. It wasn't that long ago. But they stole our assets like we were babies, and the United States said absolutely nothing about it.

So, now we're doing everything about it. Now, we're doing 500 percent about it, but it's a long time after the act took place. So, they stole from us, and it was taken by socialists and communists at the time, and Venezuela was going bad, really bad. And as much oil as they have, they're producing almost nothing, almost nothing, which is just a system.

So, we're really, if you look at it, we're taking back what was taken from us. They took our oil industry. We built that entire oil industry, started a long time ago, but they took it, and they -- they were very ungracious to this country, but now they're being very nice. American companies will have the opportunity to rebuild Venezuela's rotting energy infrastructure and eventually increase oil production to levels never, ever seen before.

When you add Venezuela and the United States together, we have 55 percent of the oil in the world.

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The United States is number one. We have them drilling. "Drill Baby Drill" was my campaign. And Doug and Chris, I think we're setting records on drilling right now and taking oil without Venezuela. That's how we're getting the oil prices down. The plan is for them to spend -- meaning, our giant oil companies will be spending at least $100 billion of their money, not the government's money. They don't need government money, but they need government protection and the government's security that when they spend all this money, it's going to be there. So, they get their money back and make a very nice return.

The plan is for them to spend at least $100 billion to rebuild the capacity and the infrastructure necessary. Venezuela has also agreed that the United States will immediately begin refining and selling up to 50 million barrels of Venezuelan crude oil, which will continue indefinitely. We're all set to do it. We have the refining capacity. It was actually based very much on the Venezuelan oil, which is a heavy oil, very good oil, great oil. It's fantastic for certain things like asphalt roads, best there is in the world for asphalt roads and other things.

All of the companies here today are going to be treasured partners in bringing the nation of Venezuela back to life, restoring its economy and generating great wealth for their companies and for their people and also great wealth for the American people, and tremendous wealth for the companies that are going in. The companies that are going in. And if you don't want to go in, just let me know, because I got 25 people that aren't here today that are willing to take your place.

So, I just want to thank -- these are people that I either know or I know of by reading lots of business magazines and journals and papers. These are the greatest oil people anywhere in the world. Harold Hamm, I see, is here, Harold. You know, there's a story about Harold Hamm that he can look at a piece of land, put a straw into the land and oil pours out. Is that true about you?

Whereas some of you guys have to invest hundreds of millions of dollars to find that oil. So, we can't let that story be true. But they say Harold puts a straw into the land and oil comes gushing out. So, you're not a big R&D person, are you? He's -- he's called -- he's called "Instinct for Oil."

Now, he's got other problems, but we won't talk about those problems. But he's been a great supporter of mine for a long time, haven't you, Harold? So, congratulations. But we have -- and I think Harold would agree -- we have the greatest oil men and women anywhere in the world sitting in this room right now. And we have a lot of people that will be back to see us sometime next week. We're going to have another meeting for another group.

But we're going to do this very quickly. We can have this done almost immediately. So, I'd like to thank you all for being here. I'd like to invite Vice President Vance to say a few words, followed by Secretaries Rubio, Burgum and Wright. And then, we'll have a few words from representatives that are here and to discuss their ideas. A couple of them. We have Chevron, which has been -- where's Chevron. Where are you?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) far-right.

TRUMP: Oh, I thought you'd have a better location. You were the only one that was there for -- for all that. I used to call you and say, what the hell is going on with Venezuela? He stuck it out. I don't know if you made money or not, but you stuck it out. They got to give you a lot of credit for that. Mark Nelson, thank you very much.

Exxon CEO Darren Woods. Darren, thank you very much. How's Exxon doing? Okay?

DARREN WOODS, EXXON CEO: (INAUDIBLE) ...

TRUMP: They'll do a lot better now, won't they, huh? Exxon's been amazing. It's been an amazing company.

And ConocoPhillips CEO Ryan Lance. Thank you very much. So, you guys could say something and then we'll take some questions from the press and if anybody else want to ...

KEILAR: All right. We'll keep monitoring this. This is President Trump meeting with oil executives who he says are going to be investing in Venezuela. We will keep our eye on this. Let's get in a quick break and we'll be right back.

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KEILAR: Right now, President Trump is meeting with executives of some of America's biggest energy companies. And this is part of his ambitious plan to revitalize the oil industry in Venezuela after ousting President Nicolas Maduro and bringing him to the U.S. for trial. Earlier today, the U.S. seized as well another oil tanker near the coast of Venezuela, which marks at least the fifth ship, the U.S. has captured since announcing a blockade of the country's sanctioned oil in December. CNN's Kristen Holmes is at the White House for us.

And, Kristen, before this meeting, the President said oil companies would invest at least $100 billion in Venezuela. What more are White House officials saying about those plans? This is going to be a tough sell, especially for the bigger companies with a lot of money to invest.

KRISTEN HOLMES, CNN SENIOR WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Right. That's -- that's exactly right. So, he actually repeated this just now when he was in the room with all these executives saying that they were going to spend $100 billion at least of their own money, not government money, to rebuild the oil infrastructure in Venezuela.

We have no details of what that looks like or what that means. But he did seem to acknowledge that there were certain specifications that these companies had. And one of them we discussed last hour is that security. One of the things he said was that we're going to provide security.

Now, remember, President Trump has said there's not going to be any boots on the ground. So, that itself is going to be difficult. What is that going to look like? Are you talking about private military security companies? We don't have any answers on this.

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Now, the other interesting part of something he said was that this -- he said that these companies wouldn't be dealing directly with Venezuela, that they don't want them dealing with Venezuela, that the United States would be dealing with Venezuela. Here's why that matters. Some of these companies are still saying that

they are owed billions of dollars from what happened last time in Venezuela from the country of Venezuela directly. Essentially, we had all of these American and European companies in Venezuela.

And then, in 2007, they were forced to pull out or make what many would describe as bad deals with the Venezuelan government under Hugo Chavez when he was trying to nationalize oil there.

So, you have several of these big companies, ExxonMobil is one of them, ConocoPhillips, who say they're still owed billions of dollars by Venezuela. So, clearly a distrust there of the Venezuelan government. Here you have President Trump saying we would be the intermediary.

But what can they actually promise them? Well, he's talking about security, but what about any kind of repayment? One of the things that we had heard was possibly going to be floated was this idea of selling the Venezuelan oil, that most of that money would go back to the Venezuelan people, the Venezuelan oil that the U.S. has already obtained, because some of that might go to pay off some of those debts.

Again, we don't have any specifics yet of what this deal is, but we do know from those oil companies that they were coming into this meeting skeptical of what the administration could offer them.

KEILAR: All right. Yes, we'll be looking to see what that is. The guarantees, whatever would be offered to them, we understand may not be enough for many of them. Kristen Holmes, thank you so much.

And coming up, we'll have more on our breaking news out of Minneapolis, a new video from the perspective of the ICE officer who shot and killed Renee Good.

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