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ICE Agent's Cellphone Captures Fatal Confrontation in Minneapolis; Measles Cases in South Carolina Jump 68 Percent in One Week; Trump Meeting with Oil Execs on Venezuela. Aired 3:30-4p ET

Aired January 09, 2026 - 15:30   ET

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BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN HOST: I want to turn now back to our top story, newly obtained video of the deadly shooting of a woman by an ICE agent in Minneapolis, a DHS official confirming the video was recorded on the ICE agent's cell phone. And a warning, there is profanity, there is disturbing content in this video.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm not mad at you. Show your face. I'm not mad at you.

It's OK, we don't change our plates every morning, just so you know. It'll be the same plate when you come talk to us later. That's fine.

U.S. citizen, former f*****g president, do you want to come at us? You want to come at us? I say go get yourself some lunch, big boy.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Get out of the car. Get out of the f*****g car. Get out of the car.

(SCREAMING)

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KEILAR: All right, let's talk about this with retired FBI supervisory special agent and CNN law enforcement contributor Steve Moore. Steve, what stands out to you in this video?

STEVE MOORE, CNN LAW ENFORCEMENT CONTRIBUTOR: Well, two things. First of all, I wonder whether the shots, when the shots occurred after the agent was struck and knocked down or in by that, I mean, was the threat continuing at that point? The other thing is the kind of the brazen antagonism of people who were involved in a law enforcement operation.

And, you know, she was blocking the street at a 90 degree angle. So you got a couple of things, one question on one side and one question on the other side. What were they -- what did they think they were doing?

And so it just clears -- makes it as clear as mud.

KEILAR: I mean, are you worried something like this could happen again?

MOORE: Something like this will happen again if people continue to interfere with federal law enforcement. In the course of their duties, yes, it will happen again, I guarantee you.

KEILAR: So when you're looking at this video compared to other angles that we've seen, how are you fitting these different things together?

MOORE: I guess what I'm thinking here is that the threat to you has to be you or other people has to be imminent. And once he's knocked down as bad as that is, that's assault with a deadly weapon. If you wanted to charge that if the if the driver was still alive.

But at the same time, you want to know as they were driving away, who fired and what was their motivation to fire? It looks like the person who was on the ground did not do the shooting. The person who was assaulted.

KEILAR: So in other angles where you see the officer make, obviously, the car is making contact with the officer. He's moving around right and to the side of the car. And it does appear that he is on the side of the car when at least one of the shots are fired.

That speaks to your question about is the threat continuing? What in general does protocol say about that? And what did you think about the responses of other officers around this ICE officer?

MOORE: Well, I'll answer the last question first. When one officer goes down, it is the immediate instinct and duty of the other officers to protect that that officer. So that's one thing.

The continuing threat gets really murky. And this is where it's going to have to be diced out the entire way. You may, in your judgment as a law enforcement officer, if you believe that somebody is fleeing in order to continue to be a threat, you may utilize deadly force.

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But that's really hard to prove at the time. And you have to see the totality of the circumstances and the antagonism towards the officers. They have a right to believe that when that person who is getting in the car threatened them and said, you better have your lunch before you come at us. There's so much going on here.

It's going to take months and years to unpack this one.

KEILAR: We've had a number of expert guests who have raised questions about, I think, because one of the things that we now see that we could not see from the other videos, obviously, is that antagonistic interaction with a person who is not Renee Good and that person trying to get into the car. This is the person we understand to be her spouse. And I guess the question, though, is you see that person now near the line of fire.

You have one of the other officers near the line of fire. There are other observers you see in the video near the line of fire. What are the considerations of an officer discharging a weapon in that -- in a case like that?

MOORE: Yes, in situations like that, I've actually heard the words and this is the standard thing. Watch your crossfire. I've been in situations where there are several agents around a vehicle with an armed suspect.

And so you watch your crossfire. This officer is going to fire in a way that if he misses, that bullet cannot become or should not become a threat to others. In this case, he did not miss.

KEILAR: Steve Moore, thank you very much.

And ahead on CNN NEWS CENTRAL, a huge jump in the number of measles cases in one state after the holidays. Public officials deeply worried about what this could mean with declining vaccination rates.

We'll have that next.

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KEILAR: This just in. The measles outbreak in South Carolina is growing at a rapid rate. The state is reporting cases have jumped nearly 70 percent here in just the last week. CNN medical correspondent Meg Tirrell has been following this story. Meg, these numbers are really alarming.

MEG TIRRELL, CNN MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes, they are, Brianna. We see 99 new cases being reported today in South Carolina just since Tuesday, bringing the total number in the outbreak there, which has been growing since October, to 310. On Tuesday, they reported 26 new cases.

So for the week, we're at 125 new cases being reported in South Carolina. For some context, remember that huge measles outbreak in West Texas last year. Well, we haven't seen the whole country report more than 100 cases of measles in a week since the depths of that outbreak really in March and April of last year.

And so this outbreak in South Carolina growing very fast. It's centered around Spartanburg County, which is in the northern part of the state. And we even checked in with the health department there to say, are these 99 cases of this some artifact of reporting?

Were these a backlog of cases? And they said, no, the state epidemiologist telling us it is likely the holidays in terms of all of the gathering that was happening in the travel, as well as the lower vaccination coverage that they have in that part of the state and especially different communities and pockets in that area that is contributing to this rapid increase in cases. They say they have about 200 people currently in quarantine and possibly hundreds more who've been exposed and may not have protection against the measles, either through vaccination or from having had the virus already.

So Brianna, this is expected to continue possibly for weeks or even months more in South Carolina. We should note the vast majority of the identified cases are unvaccinated, school aged children for the most part, some even younger. And Brianna, there are questions about whether the U.S. is going to lose its measles elimination status, which we earned in 2000 as a result of all of these cases we've been seeing over the last year.

KEILAR: Yes, that would be something. Meg Tirrell, thank you so much for that report.

And ahead, President Trump says he's canceling a second attack on Venezuela because the country is cooperating. But other countries in the region remain on alert. We'll have that next.

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KEILAR: President Trump is taking questions from reporters as he meets at the White House with oil executives.

DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I'm very disappointed. I settled eight wars. I thought this would be in the middle of the pack or maybe one of the easier ones. And I don't know if you know, Peter, the last month they lost 31,000 people, many of them Russian soldiers and the Russian economy is doing poorly.

I think we're going to end up getting it settled. I wish we could have done it quicker because a lot of people are dying and mostly soldiers, you know, they get hit in Kyiv and they get hit a little bit here and there. And people are dying there, too.

But largely, it's the soldier population. When you have 30,000, 31,000 soldiers dying in a period of a month, 27,000 the month before 26,000 the month before that. That's bad stuff.

So, as you know, President Biden gave $350 billion to Ukraine to fight. And we would never get that back, although I did make a rare earth deal to get it back. So we will be getting it back.

But shouldn't have done that. It was a bad thing to do. I will say that right now, because I was able to get NATO to up GDP from 2 percent to 5 percent.

NATO's got a lot of money and they're paying for everything. We're not losing any money. We're making a lot of money, I guess, if you think of it, because we're selling our military equipment.

They're probably giving it to Ukraine, but we're selling them to NATO military equipment. We're getting full price and all of that. But that's not a big deal to me.

What is a big deal is stopping a war where 30,000 people are being killed every single month.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: On Minnesota, the vice president yesterday suggested that Rene Good, who was killed by this ICE officer, was part of a broad left wing network. What has your team told you about this broad left wing network? Who is in charge of it?

Who's part of it? What what's it called?

TRUMP: Well, I haven't seen the vice president's statement, but he's generally very accurate. I hate to say it. Look, I watched that yesterday and there are a lot of a lot of different forms to it. But there was a woman screaming, shame, shame, shame, shame.

She was a agitator, probably a paid agitator.

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But in my opinion, she was an agitator, a very high level agitator, so professional she wouldn't stop screaming. I said this isn't a normal situation. And this is a professional troublemaker because you heard it and I had it now.

I will say this. The news sort of turned her down, turned her off because you're trying to watch. She was so loud and so crazy and just not normal. When somebody sees something like that, they don't go screaming and screaming and the same words.

So I guess you could say professional, but I didn't think she did a very good job. You have agitators and we will always be protecting ICE and we're always going to be protecting our Border Patrol and our law enforcement. Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. President, in your conversations with these oil executives today, do you provide any security guarantees so that they can do their work safely in Venezuela? And separately, Mr. President --

TRUMP: they will have those guarantees. Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And separately, Mr. President, I'm curious in terms of the future of Venezuela. Do you see Venezuela now led by Delcy Rodriguez as an ally of the U.S.? Is that the way that you view that country?

TRUMP: Well, right now, they seem to be an ally, and I think it'll continue to be an ally. And we don't want to have Russia there. We don't want to have China there.

And by the way, we don't want Russia or China going to Greenland, which if we don't take Greenland, you're going to have Russia or China as your next door neighbor. That's not going to happen.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Mr. President, thank you. You just said that these companies would have security guarantees if they go in on the ground in Venezuela.

TRUMP: They will have.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And what is your plan there actually for these companies and those Americans who are going to be on the ground working for these companies? TRUMP: Well, there are going to be Americans. I assume they're going to be using a lot of Americans, but they're going to be using a lot of people from Venezuela and other places, I would imagine. But I would think that mostly they'll be using Venezuelan workers.

They have a lot of great workers. They have a very high unemployment rate, and they have workers that are very familiar with taking oil out of the ground. Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How long do you think the Ayatollah will be in power after what we've seen play out on the ground there? When is the U.S. going to get involved now that reports of protesters being killed on the ground?

TRUMP: So Iran's in big trouble. It looks to me that the people are taking over certain cities that nobody thought were really possible just a few weeks ago. We're watching the situation very carefully.

I've made the statement very strongly that if they start killing people like they have in the past, we will get involved. We'll be hitting them very hard where it hurts. And that doesn't mean boots on the ground, but it means hitting them very, very hard where it hurts.

So we don't want that to happen. There have been cases like this where President Obama totally backed down. But this is something pretty incredible that's happening in Iran.

It's an amazing thing to watch. They've done a bad job. They've treated their people very badly, and now they're being paid back.

So let's see what happens. We're watching it. We're watching it very closely.

All right, next. Yes, go ahead.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Thank you so much, Mr. President. Do you have any comments on reaction to the recent attacks by the Syrian government alignment groups against U.S.-backed Kurdish forces in Aleppo, Syria, which killed dozens of civilians and displacing many families? Does your administration bring peace between the Kurds and the Syrian government?

TRUMP: I want to see peace. Yes, I do. The Kurds and the Syrian government, we get along with both, as you know very well. They have been natural enemies over the years, but we get along both, and we want to see Syria succeed.

And so far, I think they are succeeding, but this is just breaking out, and we want to see that stopped.

Go ahead, please.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. President, you're meeting with the President of Colombia, Gustavo Petro, in a few weeks. Do you hope this meeting with Gustavo Petro marks a new chapter, a new beginning in the benefit of the U.S.-Colombian relations? TRUMP: What country?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Colombia, with the President of Colombia, Gustavo Petro, you're meeting.

TRUMP: Yes, I had a very good talk with him yesterday, and he's been very hostile to us and to the nation and to me, called me a dictator and lots of other things. Called Biden some terrible names, far worse than he called me. But he called yesterday through people, and he wants to meet, and that's fine with me.

I've made up with people also, you know. So we're going to have a meeting with him. We had a very good conversation.

The people of Colombia are incredible people. Marco would know that better than anybody because he's married to a woman from Colombia, and I don't mean Columbia University. That would be, I'm not sure.

I think I like Colombia, the country better, if you want to know the truth. The people, the people are, the people, hold it, hold it, hold it. The people, the people are great people.

I look forward to meeting with them, going to meet in the very near future.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Would you meet the President, Interim President of Venezuela here in the White House? Would you greet her to discuss the fate of the oil?

TRUMP: Well, I'm going to meet a lot of people and we're going to meet, you know, we meet a lot of people. We've when you end eight wars, you get to know a lot of people. And I think it's very important as an example.

We have over $18 trillion. Think of that $18 trillion coming into our country. A lot of that's coming in from foreign countries like Saudi Arabia and Qatar and UAE and others.

And I get to meet a lot of people. But I will be meeting with various representatives of Venezuela probably pretty soon. We haven't set that up.

But the relationship that we have with the people that are currently running Venezuela is very good. We also have a young lady that received the Nobel Peace Prize. She's going to come in and pay her regards to our country, really to me.

But, you know, I'm a representative of the country, nothing else. And she's coming in sometime next week. I think Wednesday, Tuesday or Wednesday.

And we'll see how that is. But no, no, we're going to be we're dealing with the people from Venezuela. We're dealing with them very well. I think they've been very smart in the way they've dealt with us, frankly, because that whole place could have been obliterated with one more strike. And we didn't want to do that.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Mr. President, thank you so much. I have a question for you on Minneapolis, but on Venezuela and your meeting with Machado next week. If she gives you her Nobel Peace Prize, will that change your view about her running that country?

TRUMP: Well, I have to speak to her. I mean, I'm going to have to speak to her. She might be involved in some aspect of it.

I will have to speak to her. I think it's very nice that she wants to come in. And that's what I understand.

The reason is because Norway is very embarrassed by what took place. I mean, they're getting decimated. Look, whether people like Trump or don't like Trump, I settled eight wars, big ones, some going on for 36 years, 32 years, 31 years, 28 years, 25 years, some just getting ready to start like India and Pakistan, where already eight jets were shot out of the air.

And I got it done in rapid order without nuclear weapons. I can't think of anybody in history that should get the Nobel Prize more than me. And I don't want to be bragging, but nobody else settled wars.

Obama got the Nobel Prize. He had no idea why. He still has no idea.

He walks around. He says, I got the Nobel Prize. Why did he get a Nobel Prize?

He got it almost immediately upon attaining office. And he didn't do anything. And he was a bad president.

So I mean, you should get the Nobel Prize for every war you stopped. These were major wars. These were wars that nobody thought could be stopped.

President Putin called me and he said about two of the wars that he's been trying to stop them for 10 years. He wasn't able to do it. He couldn't believe it.

So in theory, you should get the Nobel Prize for every war you stopped. Every one of them was major. But I don't care about that.

What I care about is saving lives. I've saved tens of millions of lives. You know, the prime minister of Pakistan came here and he made a very public statement.

He said that President Trump saved minimum 10 million lives having to do with Pakistan and India. And that was going to be raging. So, you know, but I'm honored that she's coming here.

I look forward to meeting her. Yes. Go ahead.

KAITLAN COLLINS, CNN ANCHOR AND CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: On Minneapolis I have a follow up for you. The state officials there have said that the FBI is not sharing evidence with them.

Typically, they would conduct a joint investigation, as you know. Do you believe that the FBI should be sharing evidence with state officials in Minnesota?

TRUMP: Well, normally I would, but they're crooked officials. I mean, Minneapolis and Minnesota, what a beautiful place. But this being destroyed, it's got an incompetent governor fool.

I mean, he's a stupid person. And it looks like the number could be $19 billion stolen from a lot of people, but largely people from Somalia. They buy their vote.

They vote in a group. They buy their vote. They sell more Mercedes Benz's in that area. Imagine you come over with no money and then shortly thereafter, you're driving a Mercedes Benz.

The whole thing is ridiculous. So they're very corrupt people. It's a very corrupt state. I feel that I won Minnesota. I think I won it all three times.

Nobody's won it for since Richard Nixon won it many, many years ago. I won it all three times, in my opinion. And it's a corrupt state, a corrupt voting state.

And the Republicans ought to get smart and demand on voter I.D. They ought to demand maybe same day voting and all of the other things that you have to have to a safe election. But I won Minnesota three times and I didn't get credit for it. I did so well in that state.

Every time the people were they were crying every time after. That's a crooked state, California is a crooked state, many crooked states. We have a very, very dishonest voting system. The last time I won '24, the one that just took place, I won because it was ...

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