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House GOP Clears Key Hurdle on Opening Government, Temporarily Funding ICE; NASA Delays Artemis II Lunar Mission Until March; Trump Meets With Colombian President, Gustavo Petro; Officials Give Update on Search for Savannah Guthrie's Mom. Aired 1:30-2p ET

Aired February 03, 2026 - 13:30   ET

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BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN CO-ANCHOR OF "CNN NEWS CENTRAL": Just moments ago, House Republicans cleared a key hurdle toward ending the partial government shutdown.

Speaker Mike Johnson successfully ended a conservative rebellion in his own party that threatened to block that funding bill. And we're now standing by for a full House vote to end the shutdown. And Republicans can lose only one vote if this falls along party lines.

CNN's Manu Raju is with us now from the Hill. All right. Revolt quelled here, Manu? Where do things stand?

MANU RAJU, CNN CHIEF CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Yeah, look, this is a narrowly divided House, a razor-thin Republican majority, so any two defections on the Republican side could be enough to scuttle the Speaker's ambitions.

And that's what almost happened just moments ago when a vote was held open for a significant amount of time, the Speaker trying to clear a first procedural hurdle because all Democrats had voted against it, meaning he could only afford to lose one Republican no vote. And he did lose one Republican, Thomas Massie of Kentucky.

He managed to flip another Republican member, John Rose of Tennessee, who was threatening to vote against this bill unless there were greater commitments in the United States Senate to bring up a bill to require voters to show citizenship and proof of identity in voting in elections.

Now, I asked the Speaker in the immediate aftermath of his successful effort to flip John Rose and get him to vote yes to approve that procedural motion on the narrowest of margins, what promises he made in order to get that vote through?

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RAJU: What promises did you make to John Rose to get him to yes? REP. MIKE JOHNSON, (R-LA) HOUSE SPEAKER: No promises. John is engaged in a tight race for the governorship of Tennessee, and he's thoughtful about that, and he wants a fair fight there, and so that's what we discussed, but no promises.

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RAJU: And the speaker said that President Trump was not directly involved in that final push to flip some of those key holdouts. Trump was involved over the last 24 hours, holding individual meetings with some members who threatened to sink this bill. But now that they've gotten their members in line and they've cleared this key procedural hurdle, we expect in a matter of minutes for the House to cast that final vote on this bill to reopen the federal government and end the four-day government shutdown, the second shutdown of President Trump's term.

But that would only extend government funding for the Department of Homeland Security for two weeks. The rest of the federal government will be extended to the end of September, meaning another huge fight, this time over the use of ICE agents, will play out over the next two weeks, and another potential shutdown of the Homeland Security Department could happen by middle of February. Brianna?

KEILAR: Wow. All right, Manu Raju, thank you for that. Boris?

BORIS SANCHEZ, CNN CO-ANCHOR OF "CNN NEWS CENTRAL": So NASA is delaying its historic Artemis II lunar moon mission. The Artemis II rocket was expected to lift off next week, carrying four astronauts back to the moon for the first time since the Apollo program ended 54 years ago. NASA, though, deciding to push the launch to March after running into several issues during this morning's wet dress rehearsal.

Let's bring in CNN's Tom Foreman. Tom, what went wrong?

TOM FOREMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: WHAT went wrong was they had a hydrogen leak. Hydrogen, very tiny molecules, they can leak kind of easily. They've dealt with these issues before. They managed to get it sealed off enough to fill the tank, but still they don't want to have that happen, hydrogen being one of the key components in the fuel. About 700,000 pounds of it being put in here, so it's a lot.

They had that. They also had a problem with a valve up near the crew capsule that they had to adjust that they weren't happy with. Overall, though, NASA officials, who were just talking just a minute ago to the press, were saying that they feel like they feel pretty good about it because this is what the wet test is for.

You act like you're going to launch, you get all the way up, and you see, are we ready? The answer is no, they're not ready now, so they push off to March, and if that doesn't work, then they'll push off to April.

SANCHEZ: Hopefully, we'll see that happen in March.

FOREMAN: Yeah. SANCHEZ: I wonder, what's the significance in the grand scheme of things if the mission is to get to Mars of going back to the moon?

FOREMAN: Well, first of all, it's the first time in 50 years we've gone back to the moon. That's a big deal. This is an immensely powerful unit here. When this takes off, it's going to have close to nine million pounds of thrust.

And when it goes up on this 10-day mission, it will also take people further from Earth than any humans have ever been. About 5,000 miles beyond the moon, when it circles around the backside, it'll be the first woman to go that close to the moon, the first person of color, and interestingly enough, the first non-American, the first Canadian, will be on board as part of the crew. So a lot about this is very exciting.

Also, the return is interesting because when the Orion spacecraft comes back here, it will enter Earth much faster and hotter than we're used to, about 25,000 miles an hour. The bottom of the capsule will be hitting about 5,000 degrees, so half the temperature of the surface of the sun. And there are concerns, there are questions about the tiles on the bottom, the protection on the bottom.

They had some spalling that they didn't really expect in the first one. They think they've solved it, but they want to make sure this keeps it safe. This really is a very far-reaching mission, and the goal is to set up Artemis III sometime late next year or maybe the year after that, which would then hook to another system here where they're going to have a gateway orbiting system around here, around the moon, that they can set up a moon base, and all of this is indeed designed to say, let's test out deep-space systems.

Let's see if we can get closer to making the leap off to Mars because that's where you get into much bigger challenges. So it's a very interesting mission, and it's a very far-reaching and challenging mission. That's what the test was about. They think they've passed that test, even if it delays a little bit more for safety.

SANCHEZ: And even with the delay, it is so exciting.

FOREMAN: Oh, yeah.

SANCHEZ: Tom Foreman, thanks for walking us through this.

FOREMAN: Amazing flight. We wish them the best.

SANCHEZ: Yeah, for sure. So President Trump is meeting face-to-face with Colombia's president, a leader that Trump once called a sick man, a thug who sends cocaine into the United States. We're going to have details on how that closed-door sit-down is going next on "CNN News Central."

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[13:44:23] SANCHEZ: Just moments ago, a meeting between President Donald Trump and Colombia President, Gustavo Petro wrapped up at the White House. The two leaders have had a testy relationship and it culminated and ultimately led to these talks.

Last year, the Trump administration said that Colombia had failed its obligations to combat drug trafficking. President Trump repeatedly insulted and threatened Petro. Watch this.

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DONALD TRUMP, (R) PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: Colombia is a drug den. It's a drug den and it has been for a long time. You got a lousy leader over there right now. Bad guy, a thug.

He's a drug dealer. The president of Colombia is a drug dealer.

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They have cocaine factories that they make cocaine, as you know, and they sell it right into the United States. So he better wise up or he'll be next.

He's no friend of the United States. He's a very bad, very bad guy. And he's got to watch his ass.

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SANCHEZ: We're actually going to pivot to some Breaking News out of Arizona where investigators believe that 84-year-old Nancy Guthrie has been abducted from her home. Officials are now giving an update. Let's listen.

SHERIFF CHRIS NANOS, PIMA COUNTY, ARIZONA: So I apologize to you for sometimes I'm speaking in generalities and I'm not used to everybody hanging on to my words, and then trying to hold me accountable for what I say, but I understand. So we're going to try our best to be succinct with you in the future.

And also, more important for you to understand is, we have a lot of work in front of us. We have a job to do. And we have someone's life who is at -- in jeopardy. And so job number one is, we got to find her and we got to work hard to do that.

I understand there's great attention on this and rightfully so, and I appreciate it and I thank you for it because it has generated a lot of leads for us. And so, we're tracking those leads and we're doing things with evidence that you would expect us to be doing.

So having said that, we're going to set this up. I know that a number of you, yesterday, you guys drove me crazy. Yesterday, I was going from a.m. all the way to 9, 10, 11, midnight answering concerns and questions and it's just too tough.

And it's not fair to the case. So what I'm going to tell you is today, we're going to do this similar to what we're doing right now. Here we'll take questions. It's not really my briefing, it's your briefing. You'll be able to ask us some questions. We'll probably shut you off after a while because I just can't be here all day. We have work to do.

But we'll take some questions and then in a couple of days, if something breaks, we'll do this every couple of days. So -- and we'll set up with you through our PIO teams to give you anything that comes up that might change. But clearly, they will notify you on these, what I call, media briefings.

So with that, I'm going to ask John to come up. If you've got a statement to say, John, and then we'll take some questions and we'll get back to work.

JON EDWARDS, FBI ASSISTANT SPECIAL AGENT IN CHARGE: Hello, I'm Jon Edwards. My spelling is J-O-N-E-D-W-A-R-D-S. I'm the assistant special agent in charge of the FBI's office here in Tucson. First, we want the community to know that the FBI is doing everything in our power to bring Nancy Guthrie home to her family.

The FBI is working alongside the Pima County Sheriff's Department on this incident. In terms of what the FBI is doing, we are providing the following support. Primarily, it's analytical and technical support in the following ways.

We're downloading and analyzing cell phones, obtaining cell tower information, conducting interviews, and providing any and all investigative support that the Sheriff's Department needs. We're looking at this from every angle, but we need your help.

If you live in the area or saw something on Saturday night, the 31st of January, or Sunday morning, the 1st of February, please report it to the Pima County Sheriff's Department or the FBI at 1-800-CALL-FBI.

Every lead and tip is important. We are aggressively pursuing and looking into every single one. Again, please help us bring Nancy Guthrie home. Thank you.

NANOS: We'll take some questions.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sheriff, is there any indication so far as to whether this was a random abduction or targeted?

NANOS: It's like I said earlier, we're looking at all the leads, and we don't know. We're going to assume both sides of that. We'll look at both sides of that.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sheriff, do you have any idea what Nancy Guthrie was wearing or the type of car that she might have left from or any identifiable information that the public could use to help with those tips?

NANOS: We do not.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Sheriff, do you believe that one or more than one person was involved in the kidnapping?

NANOS: I've just no clue. It could have been one, it could have been more. I don't know.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is there any indication that Nancy Guthrie is still alive? We know the medication played a critical role here. It's been 48 hours. She needs it every single day. Are you looking for someone that is still alive?

NANOS: We hope we are. We hope we are.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Sheriff, you said earlier that you don't believe there's a wider threat to the public. If you're not sure if it's targeted, why do you believe there's no wider threat to the public?

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NANOS: Well, we have crime in Tucson all the time, right, like any city. And so, when you say a threat to the public, is there somebody out there who's kidnapping elderly people in the middle of the night every night? We've not heard that. We don't believe that's the case. We do believe that Nancy was taken from her home against her will, and that's where we're at.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sheriff, when you reference violence at the site, can you elaborate on that? Also, was there a sign of forced entry? Any valuables taken? Any bank or ATM cards used after disappearance?

NANOS: We don't -- we're not getting into that. What I'd tell you is, like any crime scene, we processed this crime scene. We gather all the evidence we could to include looking for what? Fingerprints, DNA, camera images, everything you can imagine, and we gathered that out.

Those things have been submitted forward to labs, to technological companies to help us, and that's -- we're like you. We're waiting for those returns to come back.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you find DNA that does not belong in that house?

ED LAVANDERA, CNN SENIOR NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: The window of time from when she was last seen to when she was reported missing, and I know you guys are asking for help from the public. Is there any way to narrow down what time you might be up like? I know there was a report about a pacemaker dinging around like two o'clock in the morning. Is there any way to indicate to people, hey, look around 1 a.m. or 2 a.m. to help them identify what might have happened?

NANOS: You know, I really don't want to get into narrowing down the time, because narrowing it down means we could miss some tips and leads. We're working with the data we've submitted for investigative analysis. We're working to see if that time can be tightened up.

But for now, we're going with what we told you earlier. She was dropped off at 9.30, and she was found to be missing at about 11 o'clock Sunday morning.

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NANOS: Let me get this one first.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: -- DNA of anyone else found in the house at this time?

NANOS: We've submitted all kinds of samples for DNA, and we've gotten some back, but nothing to indicate any suspects.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Any (inaudible) strange in the neighborhood. I know you are looking at video, different surveillance camera. We should be looking out at different cars?

NANOS: I have nothing in that regard.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you have any demands being made? Have any demands been made by kidnappers?

NANOS: We have all kinds of investigative leads we're working on.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sheriff, we noticed that the camera on the front of the house is missing. Do you believe the perpetrator purposely took the camera?

NANOS: Don't know that. We're looking into that as well.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That scene has been fully processed now. We saw deputies leave around six o'clock last night. We didn't see tape go up. An Amazon driver was able to walk right up to the door. Is that pretty standard for how you handle this?

NANOS: The scene is done. We're done with the residence. If we need to go back to get -- maybe we want to do something with some other piece of evidence there, we contact the family and let them know. We've turned that over to the family. I don't have the time, but it was sometime yesterday, I believe.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How about any tire tracks or anything --

NANOS: No, ma'am.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: -- around the house?

NANOS: Was there any --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you believe -- can you please take us through the timeline that you've established of the events so far? And (Inaudible). NANOS: 9:45 -- 9:30, 9:45, we were told she was left at her home by the family. At 11 o'clock in the morning, the family got notice from somebody at church that she was not at church. They went to the home, found her to be missing. That's the timeline. From Saturday night, 9:45, we'll say, to Sunday morning 11 o'clock.

Let me get somebody back here, please.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Have you interviewed the people that reported her missing? The people from the community.

NANOS: That's the family. Oh, from the church as well. We're doing all kinds of interviews, yes. I'm sure we have.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Have you been able to access the footage from the cameras at the house?

NANOS: That's all been submitted, and we're doing our best with those companies who own those cameras or built those cameras.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you plan to release those videos from the surveillance footage?

NANOS: We don't even have them yet, so no, not at this time. This is an active investigation.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sir, there's a report of a suspicious man a few doors down last week. Is that anything that you guys are aware of?

NANOS: I'm not aware of it. My detectives may be. There's a lot of detective work being done, and I just can't get into those weeds or even discuss with you what they may or may not have learned.

Yes, ma'am.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (Inaudible) from the board yesterday, are there specific resources that maybe the board has not granted that would have made a difference responding to this case?

NANOS: Well, that's getting into my own local politics. I apologize. Yes, the board a few weeks ago denied a request for more cameras, more drones, more A.I. capabilities with our own body-worn cameras, all those things that you'd have to talk to the board. Yeah. I'm not -- probably not the right time to go into this.

Let me get somebody else here. Yes?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Sheriff, do you believe she's still in this area?

NANOS: Do we believe --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: -- she's still in this area, or is there somewhere else? NANOS: We don't know where she is. So, we are -- like any investigation, you start from the point of where we last saw her and we work out. We are working as far out as we can go.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Sheriff, can you walk through the evidence on --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Was there (inaudible) forced entry at the house, like any broken windows or whatever? Does it seem like people just went in and out?

NANOS: There were concerns at the house that concerned us from the early on part of this investigation. That's all I will tell you. Yes, ma'am.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Sheriff, is there any history with Nancy meeting police at her place or concerns where she was worried about somebody following her?

NANOS: Our investigative team has looked into all of those things and that has not been brought to my attention. So, she may have had something like that, but I'm not aware of it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What is the extent of collaboration with the federal government? Obviously, FBI is here. CBP, are there other agencies also involved?

NANOS: CBP's role in this was in our search and rescue mission where we constantly use them. They have great dogs too. Our dogs aren't tracking dogs for this, theirs are. And so, they came out and did that. Anybody else that we've asked for help from, whether it's the FBI, I know if we needed help from CBP or DEA or ATF, they would gladly give it.

I've heard from leadership from all sorts of agencies, not just at the federal level, but across the state. Everyone of them saying, Sheriff, you need anything, we're here.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Sheriff, so you obviously said investigators, when they got on scene, they found suspicious circumstances. When the family called originally to report her missing, did they say anything about the state of the home?

NANOS: I don't know that. That I don't know.

Hang on. Let me make sure I'm getting some different people here. Yes, ma'am.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yeah. So, there was blood that was found inside the house and you're testing it for DNA. How much blood and where was it?

NANOS: I'm not saying there's blood inside that house or outside that house. What I'm saying is our team processed a scene like you would think of any crime scene. We go in and we process it. We look for things like that. Blood, DNA, any kind of physical evidence, fingerprints, anything.

And all of that is gathered and submitted to a lab. That lab will report back to us what they find. So what we found from that lab is nothing that would tell us this is who did this.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We'll take a couple more questions and then the Sheriff's got to go.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Sheriff, can you walk through the evidence that was found at the scene in as much detail as possible?

NANOS: No, I cannot. I can't.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What is the (inaudible) surveillance footage? I know you said some of it is in the cloud but you've also reached out to tech companies that are saying they're cooperating. Why do you not have the surveillance footage (inaudible)?

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NANOS: That's what I tell them. How come I don't have this? Where's my evidence? It is a process and I'm sorry. But we're grateful that there's large corporations and companies who have leaned over, bent over backwards to help us to say, "Hey, Sheriff, tell us what you need." And so, yeah, I can't slam them. And we've asked them. They know the urgency here but I'm like you.

What do you mean I don't know that now? It's tough.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: In an answer that you gave earlier, you were asked if there were any --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Last question, last question.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- you were asked if there was any ransom and you didn't say no. You said we're following all leads. Does that mean a ransom has come in?

NANOS: We're following all leads we have. That's all I can tell you. We've got hundreds of leads and it's from you that produced those leads by telling people we need help and I'm grateful for that.

But I'm -- yeah, I'm not going to get into all that. We have a team designated to deal with all of our leads. They're looking into all of that. We are sharing all of our leads with the FBI. They are helping us in evaluating those leads, how good they are, what the priorities should be.

And so, we're just -- look, I know you guys are doing your job and you're doing a great job but we have a job to do too. And I really need to back away from this for a while and we'll see you, unless something breaks -- unless something breaks, we'll see you Thursday morning. PIO will give you a time frame. I'm guessing somewhere around 11, 11:30. But --

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's it. Thank you.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I need your emails. If you are not on the email list, get with me in the corner. I'll be right --

KEILAR: All right. We are listening to the sheriff there from Pima County in what is a frustrating little amount of information at this point as we still do not know where Nancy Guthrie is, as law enforcement does not know where Nancy Guthrie is, the beloved mother of today's show host, Savannah Guthrie.

He wouldn't say if there was forced entry. He was asked about a camera on the front of the house missing and was asked if the perpetrator perhaps took the camera. He said we don't know. We're looking into that.

He was asked about tire tracks or footprints. He seemed to indicate there were none unless he was just indicating he wasn't going to answer the question. But the way he answered it was to say there weren't any.

SANCHEZ: Yeah.

KEILAR: And he was saying that there's not -- he's not saying there's blood inside or outside the house although the Los Angeles Times has reported --