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TMZ's Harvey Levin Gives New Details On Purported Ransom Letter; Now: High-Stakes Talks Between U.S. And Iran; How Teens Are Responding To AI Upending Entry-Level Jobs. Aired 7:30-8a ET

Aired February 06, 2026 - 07:30   ET

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JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: All right. This morning new details coming out about the alleged ransom note sent to several media outlets in Nancy Guthrie's abduction, including demands for payment in Bitcoin and saying the family will have no way to contact their mother or the kidnapper.

TMZ received one of those notes and its founder Harvey Levin has been speaking with CNN.

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HARVEY LEVIN, TMZ FOUNDER, RECEIVED PURPORTED RANSOM NOTE: This person thought through the markers of showing that it's real. The Bitcoin address -- we checked immediately and it's a real address.

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BERMAN: With us now CNN senior legal analyst Elie Honig, and former NYPD lieutenant Darrin Porcher.

And Lieutenant, let me just start with you. These notes being sent to media outlets, not law enforcement, not the family. How does that complicate things, and why would someone do that?

DARRIN PORCHER, FORMER NYPD LIEUTENANT, CRIMINAL JUSTICE EXPERT: This is an aberration to say the least because as you mentioned John, these notes are traditionally introduced to the family and law enforcement.

But what works is an IP address, and the meta data is connected to this note that's been sended. So law enforcement can work to find out where this came from. It could also be a dead end. Many times you have an IP address in a place like Nigeria and not at the location.

But law enforcement has been able to extract some information that is somewhat telling. When I say it's telling, meaning it does corroborate what Nancy was wearing. So what we're looking to focus on is there -- is there any proof of life?

The negotiators -- the hostage negotiators -- the hostage negotiators are going to continue to try to connect with the kidnappers because what it does is it buys time. The kidnappers, believe it or not, want to get this done as quick as possible. And when you look at it historically there's a very low percentage of these kidnappings that have been successful. But at the same token, we want to continue that discourse between law enforcement and the kidnappers to get Nancy home safe and take them into custody.

BERMAN: Elie Honig -- counselor, you know, obviously, former federal prosecutor. You've been involved in so many different law enforcement efforts. In this case you have local police, you have the FBI now.

Is there a role for the lawyers? What are they doing at this point?

ELIE HONIG, CNN SENIOR LEGAL ANALYST, FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR, FORMER ASSISTANT U.S. ATTORNEY, SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK: There is, John. So as Lt. Porcher said, the top priority -- the only priority right now is the safe return of Ms. Guthrie and the identification of her attackers.

But a lot of the steps that you're going to take investigatively to find the attackers are also going to become important evidence down the line. So, for example, the reason you secure the home and the reason you look at every inch for forensics is because you want to figure out who did this. But that's also going to become crucial evidence down the line.

Now the role of prosecutors right now is in a supporting capacity. So I assure you there is a team of prosecutors standing by. So if investigators need a search warrant, if they suddenly need to get into a home or a car, there are prosecutors ready to draft up those affidavits, to go find the judge if it's after hours or on a weekend. You have to know who is the emergency on-duty judge. You go to their house of you need to get those warrants sworn out.

So the job right now for prosecutors is support the investigation. The prosecution will come later. But a lot of the evidence that's being guarded will come into play.

BERMAN: And when you say be ready to act suddenly, Elie, I imagine or I would have to believe -- or let me put it this way, certainly hope that they have the capability of acting in seconds if there is reason to.

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HONIG: Yeah. So I haven't been in a situation quite like this, but I have been in emergency situations. What you want to have up on your computer screen is as much of a search warrant affidavit as you know. So I promise you every time new evidence comes in -- a new ransom note -- you are plugging that into your document so that when that moment comes when a police officer calls and says OK, we're at such and such a location and we need a search warrant, all you do is just plug in that one or two sentences and you dash it off.

Again, you are in immediate contact. There's always going to be an emergency judge or magistrate -- BERMAN: Um-hum.

HONIG: -- 24/7. You have to know how to get to that person. But yes, you want to be in position to act within minutes.

BERMAN: Yeah, minutes matter here. Second matter here.

And Lieutenant, you mentioned hostage negotiators here. There's no negotiation, at least directly. So how do negotiators if they're involved here -- to the extent they're involved, what is their area of expertise and how are they trying to work without being able to make direct contact with whoever has Nancy Guthrie?

PORCHER: For starters, the negotiators are working in tandem with the family because they're trying to develop -- or they have developed a level of confidence whereas the family is comfortable speaking to the negotiator.

So when we look to the -- what was the statements that were made by Savannah Guthrie, as well as her brother, this is something that was constructed by the negotiator --

BERMAN: Um-hum.

PORCHER: -- to get the appropriate messaging out there. Because we want to make sure that we do have a level of correspondence. They want Nancy as quick as possible. The hostage negotiator -- excuse me, the hostage takers want this money as quick as possible.

But another thing we have to bear in mind, there are hoaxes out there. We just arrested someone --

BERMAN: Yes.

PORCHER: -- recently for a hoax as it relates to this ransom demand. So we need to authenticate and make sure that this is sound before we move forward.

BERMAN: And it is worth noting, at least as far as we can tell, this new video that came from the Guthrie family night came out at about the time that one of the purported ransom deadlines was passing and they do seem to be in sync there, perhaps even deliberately sent out.

Elie, you know, again, lots of law enforcement involved here. What's the division between the local, state, and federal of how this is going?

HONIG: In an -- in an ideal scenario, John, and it does appear this is happening here, you will have coordination between the state and the feds because sometimes they have different capacities.

So, for example, your locals might have better access to your forensics processing, right, to be able to take a hair sample, a blood sample and process it quickly. But on the other hand, the feds might be better to get up on a wire tap quickly or to get a search warrant quickly. So you need to basically triage here and use whoever is in the best position.

But it does appear, to the credit of the local authorities, they are working hand-in-hand. You have sheriffs, you have local police, you have feds involved, and that's the best possible way to approach this.

BERMAN: And let's hope.

Elie Honig, Darrin Porcher, thanks so much for all your help on this -- Sara.

SARA SIDNER, CNN ANCHOR: All right. Happening now in Oman, high-stakes nuclear talks taking place between the United States and Iran. Ahead of the talks, special envoy Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner meeting with Oman's foreign minister who is mediating the talks.

Now, they are the first official talks between the two sides since the U.S. bombed Iranian nuclear sites last year. President Trump has weighed a new wave of strikes on Iran in recent weeks if Tehran does not accept U.S. demands.

Joining me now is CNN global affairs analyst Brett McGurk. You once led talks with Iran in Oman. What is it like in these talks? Describe the scenario and the tension that is there.

BRETT MCGURK, CNN GLOBAL AFFAIRS ANALYST: Yes, Sara, I clocked a lot of -- many weeks of my life in Oman with their foreign minister Sayyid Badr Al Busaidi, the foreign minister there who you just saw.

Look, the Omanis have a role to play here. They're peacemakers. They try to bring everybody together. And we're all hopeful that these talks can succeed. We want to give diplomacy a chance. But let me tell you why I'm skeptical. It's partially from my own experience in doing these talks and also just the context and the backdrop here.

I mean, keep in mind Sara it was about a month ago on January 2 President Trump drew a line saying that if Iran cracks down on these protesters he will come to their rescue. And since then the Iranians made a decision to do this incredibly violent crackdown and really a historic massacre of the Iranian people. We still don't know the full numbers, but in the thousands.

And what's happened since then is the Iranians have tried to pigeon- hole these talks into the nuclear file. And the backdrop there -- Iran, for decades, has said we will only discuss with the Americans three issues.

Number one, their nuclear program. Number two, sanctions relief, which they demand for any steps on the nuclear program. And number three, what they call consular talks, which is another way to say hostage talks when they take American hostages. They've refused to talk about anything else.

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The American position, given that the context here has totally changed, particularly after the war in June, says no -- we have to talk about the nuclear program, about Iran's support for terrorism, about ballistic missiles, and I also hope about ensuring the Iranians can no longer crack down and suppress their own people violently or through these communication blackouts.

So if these talks are only about nuclear, which Iran insists on, I think it's very unlikely you'll get a deal. And even if the Americans said OK, let's only talk about that, that's a very complex subject matter. It involves nuclear physics. It involves nuclear expertise. And the sanctions are incredibly complicated. That's a process that takes a long time. It can't be done in a single day.

So while I'm hopeful we can have a diplomatic off-ramp here, I'm very doubtful that this is set up for success. And, in fact, the Iranians seem to be, as of this morning, insisting on what they call "indirect talks" -- and I've done these. This means the Americans are on one side of the diplomatic compound in Muscat, the Iranians are on the other, and the foreign minister Busaidi is kind of moving back and forth passing messages.

That's a very inefficient way to communicate.

SIDNER: Yeah.

MCGURK: A conversation between me and you that could take five minutes can take --

SIDNER: Right.

MCGURK: -- three hours just in terms of passing written messages.

So if that's what's happening I'm even more doubtful. So we'll see --

SIDNER: Yeah.

MCGURK: -- as the day unfolds but this is really not set up for a successful outcome.

SIDNER: Yeah. What you describe there is like playing telephone. It's like there's a mediator going back and forth. Stuff can be lost also in those -- in those discussions.

MCGURK: Exactly.

SIDNER: That would make things very, very difficult.

I do want to ask you about this. Back in 2021 or somewhere around there several high-level Israeli intelligence and military figures said that the Obama-led Iran deal was not great but that it should not have been torn up in hindsight. Now the U.S. is back at it again and a lot has changed since then.

But is Iran any different in its stance than it was?

MCGURK: No. I mean, look, Iran has spent hundreds of billions of dollars by some estimates on this nuclear program -- a program that has produced almost no power for the Iranian people. Even at most it's about less than two percent of total power for Iran and it still insists on having this program. And we all know it used to be a military program and they kind of still have all that apparatus intact.

But what's changed is that there was a military strike in June. The program has been significantly set back. And Iranians here are kind of acting as if nothing has changed. And so I am -- I'm very doubtful that can have an outcome.

I'll say one thing, Sara. You know, the Iranians had a chance after that -- the JCPOA -- because there was a hope among some who did that deal that maybe Iran's regional behavior would actually change and they would stop support for their terrorist proxies. They would maybe open up their economy a little bit. None of that happened. They actually kept their same foreign policy, their same domestic policy.

And so long as the supreme leader is in charge, and he is, Iranian behavior is really not going to change. So let's hope for diplomacy but as of right now not likely to succeed.

SIDNER: Yeah. I mean, the people of Iran going through those terrible -- the massacres really. We're talking some 12,000 people they believe may have been killed in those protests. It is such a disturbing situation on the ground there. We'll see --

MCGURK: It needs to be top of mind. I agree.

SIDNER: Yeah. We'll see what happens in these talks.

Brett McGurk, it's always a pleasure to have you. Thank you so much -- John.

MCGURK: Thank you.

BERMAN: All right. New this morning private data shows the worst January for jobs cuts since the Great Recession. And a lot of analysis looking into the impact of AI on jobs cuts, and this is something that even kids in high school are having to deal with.

CNN business tech reporter Clare Duffy is with us now on all of this. What are you learning?

CLARE DUFFY, CNN BUSINESS TECH REPORTER: Yeah. So I was really curious knowing how much we've heard about how AI is going to impact, especially entry-level jobs. I was curious how high school students are thinking about this. And I spoke with kids from several different places across the country and it sounds like this really is top of mind for high school students right now.

I want to talk you through what I heard. I talked to Savilla Ruby Brodhead. She is a junior from California. She wants to be a dancer or theater actor when she grows up, and she says right now she is not really using AI tools because she's worried about how they could impact her critical thinking. She says she thinks it's important to learn without AI. She told me that she is worried about what this is going to mean for her future career. She said, "My concern is for acting because there was that issue with using actors' faces and voices for AI. Especially seeing how much visual AI art has been used and that it's putting actual artists out of work who are already struggling enough." And she says, "I hate it."

So that's sort of one end of the spectrum.

I also spoke with Lincoln Vonk. He's a sophomore from Georgia. He's hoping to be a politician or a business owner. And he said he is already experimenting with how to use AI in that future career, drafting mock bills for a mock legislative activity with the help of AI.

He says, "I use AI to better understand different facets of an issue. I've used it for religious questions before to understand different denominations of my faith. If you want to be competitive in a space, you have to be on top of AI."

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But he also said he's worried about the misinformation implications of AI tools. As many of his peers are scrolling on social media, they don't know what's real and what's AI.

And then finally, I also spoke with Karissa Tang. She's a senior from California. She's hoping to be a product manager or an entrepreneur. And she told me, "Whether we see the good or bad in it, we know it's going to impact the way we live." She said, "I think many teens are concerned about AI's impact on employment."

And she actually used AI to help her decide where to apply for college. She put in sort of the ramifications that she's looking -- or the sort of qualifications she's looking for in different colleges. AI spit out a list of where she should apply to.

And she's planning on studying both business and philosophy or religious studies. This is something I actually heard from experts that a lot of young people are looking to do is study something more technical but also something in the humanities. Just sort of hedge their bets as we don't know which of those things AI is going to have the biggest impact on.

BERMAN: Yeah look, as a big supporter of humanities and studies of humanities, it's a pretty good place to be because AI can't replace that kind of stuff.

DUFFY: Absolutely.

BERMAN: It makes you think.

All right, Clare Duffy. Good to see you this morning. Thank you --

DUFFY: Thank you.

BERMAN: -- very much -- Sara.

SIDNER: That's some great advice for high schoolers.

All right. Ahead for us, new details this morning about Jeffrey Epstein and genetic testing and how he was trying to use it.

Plus, fire, juggling, and a unicycle. Drivers in one Colorado city got an impressive and highly illegal stoplight showstopper -- OK.

And we're just days away from the cutest game of the year. Puppy Bowl XXII is back and bigger than ever. What you can expect from Team Ruff and Team Fluff.

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BERMAN: All right. New details this morning about an attempt by Jeffrey Epstein to extend his own life with science. Several years after his first conviction for prostitution-related charges in 2008. Epstein paid for testing that explored using his own stem cells for regenerative medicine. That's according to documents released in the Epstein files.

He communicated with a prominent doctor involved in a largescale genetic study at Harvard Med School. That doctor reached out to Epstein in 2014 to fund a project focused on sequencing patient genomes and also raised options for testing specific to Epstein himself.

A few months later that doctor sent Epstein an extensive invoice for a range of projects that included an estimated cost for personalized longevity studies that proposed using gene editing. The invoice indicated that Epstein gave a saliva sample.

Epstein died by suicide in 2019 while awaiting trial on federal sex trafficking charges.

Wow -- Sara.

SIDNER: All right. On our radar for you this morning cell phone video shows a federal agent slamming a woman in Los Angeles to the ground. The video then shows the agent using pepper spray on a group of observers from a Ventura County immigrants' rights groups who approached them.

CNN affiliate KCBS-KCAL obtained that video. We do not know what sparked the confrontation. The woman who was thrown to the ground in the video declined to comment. ICE has not responded to our affiliate for comment.

All right, new video this morning of a car slamming straight into a terminal check-in counter at the Detroit Airport. Let's see it -- there it is. Goodness gracious. You can see people running as Mercedes barrels through the doors and through the building last month. Seven people were hurt in this. The driver was arrested and remains in medical care while police wait for the toxicology report to come out. So far, no charges have been filed.

This morning we are getting our first look at some of the battered jewels from the Louvre Museum last October. This is the smashed crown of Empress Eugenie. Look at that. They really did a number on that thing. It was dropped on the pavement during the criminals' chaotic getaway, leaving it crumpled and missing a golden eagle and short 10 diamonds. Now jewelry giants like Cartier and Boucheron are in the bidding war to restore it. Eight of the other stolen Napoleonic treasures are still missing.

All right. Drivers in Colorado were treated to Las Vegas-style stoplight entertainment. Take a look at this. What is he doing? We have a guy named Rob here that kind of looks like him. But anyway, a drone caught this -- the man juggling fire on a unicycle. Officials said while his performance was quite good it was also very illegal.

Police said, "So let's all take a moment to appreciate this man's talents, then all agree that we weren't going to do stuff like this, OK?" That's literally what they said.

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KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: OK, friends, prepare yourself for cuteness because there's a game about to go down that's just like football but 100,000 percent better. Puppy Bowl XXII is upon us.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And he leaps into the stands to celebrate another touchdown.

It's football only better.

BOLDUAN: The original longest-running call to adoption TV event in history is returning for a three-hour spectacular -- this year featuring a record-breaking 150 pups from 72 shelters in the United States, Puerto Rico, and the British Virgin Islands. But you don't care because you're focused on what you should be focused on, which are the puppies.

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And also back in action for his 15th year as referee is Dan Schachner. It is great to see you.

DAN SCHACHNER, PUPPY BOWL REFEREE: It's great to be back.

BOLDUAN: Thank you for being here.

SCHACHNER: Thank you, guys.

BOLDUAN: And also with us is Tessa and Timmy.

SCHACHNER: Yes, and I see they already left you a little present.

BERMAN: Tessa and Timmy both peed on the goal line.

SCHACHNER: True to form. BOLDUAN: I think that's a touchdown dance, right? We know --

SCHACHNER: We call it -- we call it tinkle on the 20 and we try not to penalize them right away. But eventually --

BOLDUAN: Wait, wait, wait. Dan, do you have the best job in the world? That's the first question.

SCHACHNER: It's the most tiring job in the world.

BOLDUAN: Oh, really?

SCHACHNER: This year we have 100 -- with 150 dogs it is really madness on the field.

BOLDUAN: Come here.

SCHACHNER: So somebody needs to keep order. This is just a small sampling of what you're going to see on Puppy Bowl Sunday.

BERMAN: I didn't think I was going to have to watch where I step when I was standing on the very large football field.

SCHACHNER: The story of my life.

BERMAN: What does it mean --

BOLDUAN: Look at that.

BERMAN: What does it mean to ref --

SCHACHNER: Yeah.

BERMAN: -- the Puppy Bowl?

SCHACHNER: Yeah, yeah.

BOLDUAN: Tell me, what does it mean to ref? What does it mean to ref?

SCHACHNER: First of all, you've got 150 of -- well, these. This is Tessa and Timmy from Muddy Paws Rescue here in New York. And what it means to ref is to keep order. To count the touchdowns and, of course, to award the fouls and penalties if needed.

BERMAN: What's the penalty?

SCHACHNER: Well, really, a penalty is anything that is against the rulebook and the rulebook, it's very simple. Drag a chew toy into either end zone.

BERMAN: Oh.

SCHACHNER: That's the rules of Puppy Bowl. It's quite simple. The penalties go on forever. We have everything from invasive sniffing --

BOLDUAN: Oh. SCHACHNER: It --

BERMAN: What's invasive sniffing?

SCHACHNER: Well --

BOLDUAN: I get that -- we get that a lot on this show.

SCHACHNER: We'll get that from dog to dog. If we sit them down, you'll see it sooner enough. Dog -- the nose goes where it shouldn't be. We have a water bowl where the dogs will bathe and create illegal bathing.

BOLDUAN: Come here. Come here.

SCHACHNER: Excessive slobber, end zone zoomies, unsportsmanlike digging.

BOLDUAN: End zone zoomies?

SCHACHNER: Yeah.

BOLDUAN: Oh.

SCHACHNER: Well, excessive celebration in the NFL but we call it zoomies. It's when you score a touchdown and you over-celebrate.

BERMAN: And this --

SCHACHNER: Yeah.

BERMAN: -- for instance -- and we should say --

BOLDUAN: I can't -- I have no idea how to ask questions.

BERMAN: You just keep -- you're having such fun there.

BOLDUAN: OK.

BERMAN: This -- you know, this end zone incident --

SCHACHNER: Yeah.

BERMAN: -- right here, would that count as a penalty?

BOLDUAN: Come here. Come here.

SCHACHNER: It's called a spot foul.

BERMAN: A spot foul.

SCHACHNER: So a spot foul we will allow because unfortunately, it does happen more often than you think so we kind of have to turn a little bit of a blind eye to it. We have a cleanup crew that comes in like NASCAR and cleans everything up and we're good to go.

BOLDUAN: Wait, this is important.

SCHACHNER: Yeah.

BOLDUAN: Maybe the best question that has ever been written by anyone for us. Prepare yourself.

SCHACHNER: Yeah.

BOLDUAN: Can you respond to the allegations that in past Puppy Bowls footballs, tennis balls, and other chew toys have been deflated to give advantage to the other team?

SCHACHNER: Well, um, the deflation is natural. These dogs don't have the proper grip that humans do, OK? They don't have that wide paw radius --

BOLDUAN: I must take you.

SCHACHNER: -- so they have to use their mouths. And when teeths are being used -- teeth are being used on footballs --

BOLDUAN: Great.

SCHACHNER: -- you're going to get some deflation.

BOLDUAN: Oh!

BERMAN: I -- yes.

BOLDUAN: Hello.

BERMAN: And I send the dry cleaning bill directly to?

SCHACHNER: The Puppy Bowl.

BERMAN: But this is all for a good cause, yes?

SCHACHNER: Absolutely. We have 100 percent adoption rate. At the end of every Puppy Bowl all of our adoptable dogs and cats become adopted.

BERMAN: A hundred percent.

SCHACHNER: A hundred percent.

BOLDUAN: So I was checking the facts here.

SCHACHNER: Yeah.

BOLDUAN: Last year the ratings for Puppy Bowl were bananas, as someone says who cares nothing about ratings. Like, almost like 13 million people were watching Puppy Bowl last year.

SCHACHNER: Well yeah, it's pretty exciting. Look, we are the -- I think we're the cutest pregame ever for the other human game.

BOLDUAN: Yeah. SCHACHNER: I mean, you can come watch us at --

BOLDUAN: I mean, that's objective.

SCHACHNER: -- 2:00 p.m.

BOLDUAN: That's objective. That's an objective assessment.

SCHACHNER: I think it's an objective assessment.

BOLDUAN: Um-hum.

SCHACHNER: I mean, I don't have too much of a bias. I'm not supposed to be biased.

But look, the family can get together, and you can root. No matter who you're rooting for in the human football game everyone can get behind Team Ruff and Team Fluff.

BOLDUAN: Do you have favorites?

SCHACHNER: Oh, I cannot have favorites, but I can tell you to look out for Benito. I can tell you to look out for Josh Howlin. I can tell you to look out for Chapel Bone, and I can tell you to look out for Showgirl. And let's see -- oh, and Barker Mayfield.

BERMAN: Oh, that's good. I like that.

BOLDUAN: Oh, I love.

BERMAN: And how does it end? I mean, is --

BOLDUAN: Yeah, is there a winner?

SCHACHNER: It never ends. No, it is three hours and you need that much just to clean up. But it is one of those situations where the team that scores the most touchdowns -- like I said, the rules are simple. It is -- it is considered the MVP, and they win the Lombarki trophy.

BERMAN: That's the Lombarki trophy.

SCHACHNER: Yes.

BOLDUAN: How does one get your job, sir?

SCHACHNER: Uh, well, I think you just have to beg.

BOLDUAN: I mean, honestly, I see --

SCHACHNER: The Animal Planet --

BOLDUAN: I have two daughters who are ready to apply.

SCHACHNER: Oh listen, I need all the help I can get. So if anyone wants to come on, you are welcome -- your daughters -- anybody to come on because we continue to grow every year. We're bigger and bigger. So the more help that I can get the better it'll be.

BERMAN: Who do I have here? Do I have Tessa or Timmy?

BOLDUAN: I can't remember.

SCHACHNER: You've got Timmy and you've got Tessa.

BOLDUAN: Oh.

SCHACHNER: They're both from Muddy Paws Rescue. Team Ruff and Fluff -- they're just chilling out before the game right now -- pregame.

BOLDUAN: I mean --

SCHACHNER: Pregaming.

BOLDUAN: -- we need this more in our lives.

BERMAN: Oh.

BOLDUAN: I'm like, honestly.

BERMAN: We're already a three-anchor show. Let's go to five with Tessa and Timmy.

BOLDUAN: This is -- I mean, I will happily hand over --

BERMAN: Yeah.

BOLDUAN: -- my most serious interviews to them.

BERMAN: Listen, thank you for --

BOLDUAN: They're so adorable.

SCHACHNER: Of course, thanks for having us, guys.

BOLDUAN: Thank you.

SCHACHNER: Yeah.

BOLDUAN: Thank you for bringing love, joy, and fun, and attention to something that is so important.

SCHACHNER: Yes, it is. Thank you so much for having me and enjoy the puppies.

BERMAN: They're just -- I mean, I'm never letting go.

SCHACHNER: (INAUDIBLE) all day.

BOLDUAN: And thank you to -- and thank you to Muddy Paws for letting us have some fun today.

BERMAN: You can catch Puppy Bowl XXII this Sunday, February 8, starting at 2:00 p.m. Eastern. It will simulcast across Animal Planet, Discovery, TBS, TruTV, HBO Max, and Discovery+. Don't miss it.

BOLDUAN: (Kissing puppy).

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SIDNER: Chilling details now revealed in one of the purported ransom notes in the abduction of Nancy Guthrie.