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FBI Releases Video from Nancy Guthrie's Doorbell Camera; Immigration Officials Testify Amid Backlash Over Enforcement Tactics; Interview with Rep. Julie Johnson (D-TX): DHS Funding at a Standstill as Deadline Approaches. Aired 3:30-4p ET

Aired February 10, 2026 - 15:30   ET

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HADAS GOLD, CNN MEDIA CORRESPONDENT: Yes, so previously investigators had said that the doorbell camera software did detect movement, but that Nancy Guthrie did not have an active Nest. This was the brand, it's called Nest, it's owned by Google, did not have an active cloud subscription with them. Had she had that, you would have been able to access that video right away. And as we know, of course, the camera was removed or damaged.

Now, we haven't heard from Google yet about how they were able to work with authorities to try and get this footage out. But as you know, Cash Patel did say that the video was recovered from residual data located in the backend system. There's a few possibilities about how this would have happened.

So these cameras, they can store video locally or they can also store them in the cloud. And Nest does allow about three hours of replay, even if you don't have one of those cloud subscriptions. So that means it does go somewhere.

And the data is likely distributed across one of Google's many, many global data centers. Another possibility is that sometimes a system might ask you to share your data to improve their systems or to improve their customer service, things like that. It is possible that Nancy Guthrie opted into that.

And so that might be another place where this video may have been retained. Now, what's also important to note is that generally these sort of drives don't actually delete files. They just mark the space as free to be overwritten when the space is next needed.

Now, NBC has reported that Google put their top engineers on this. Again, we haven't heard back from Google, but they would have had to been the ones to work with the authorities in order to try and find these images and find where this was. And I've heard from people in this space who work on this that it was borderline miraculous that they were able to even find this, to find this video data, because as we heard from authorities, they were not able to obtain it immediately because she didn't have that cloud subscription and that this was a huge lift for Google to be able to get this video, to be able to even find it. Because think about the amount of cameras out there, the amount of data that is being sent to these data centers. It is not just about like finding a needle in a haystack. It's like trying to find a needle in a haystack in a Super Bowl stadium of haystacks.

So there was a lot that they had to comb through. It is really amazing that they were able to find this information and find these videos. We're still waiting to hear from Google exactly how they did this, why it took them 10 days to try and find this information, how they were able to do this.

There's a lot of questions out there also about Google's video data retention. I'm sure there's a lot of consumers out there who are curious about how Google retains this video and how they're able to get it out of their systems when needed by law enforcement.

BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN HOST: Yes, all kinds of questions. Really amazing. Hadas Gold, thank you.

Top immigration officials defending President Trump's immigration enforcement surge amid fierce backlash over some of the tactics that are being used. What they said during today's House hearing next.

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BORIS SANCHEZ, CNN HOST: Some of the Trump administration's top immigration officials faced off today with members of Congress in a long awaited hearing. Acting ICE Director Todd Lyons and others were grilled about some of the enforcement tactics that officers have used, especially after the killings of two Americans citizens. At one point, the hearing got particularly heated when Democratic Congressman Dan Goldman pressed Lyons about U.S. citizens being asked for proof of citizenship. Watch this.

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REP. DANIEL GOLDMAN (D-NY): Do you know what other regimes in the 20th century required similar proof of citizenship?

TODD LYONS, ACTING DIRECTOR, ICE: Yes, sir.

GOLDMAN: What?

LYONS: Sir, there's various nefarious regimes that did that.

GOLDMAN: Is Nazi Germany one?

LYONS: Yes. But I --

GOLDMAN: Is the Soviet Union one?

LYONS: I honestly.

GOLDMAN: I'm asking the questions. Is the Soviet Union one? LYON: Yes, sir. But I totally -- I totally -- this is the wrong type

of question.

GOLDMAN: You know what? I'll tell you.

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SANCHEZ: With us now, one of the lawmakers who was in that hearing, Democratic Congresswoman Julie Johnson of Texas. Congresswoman, thank you so much for sharing part of your afternoon with us. I do want to get to the hearing, but I wanted to start with DHS funding negotiations just to get an update on where they stand and what your view is.

Leader Jeffries has said that the White House appears to be far apart with some of the demands that Democrats have made specifically on requiring judicial warrants as opposed to administrative warrants, which typically require a lower bar to issue. It means that ICE agents could enter a home with less evidence or less cause than with a judicial warrant. Is that a deal breaker for you?

Is that a demand that needs to be met in order to get DHS funding across the finish line?

REP. JULIE JOHNSON (D-TX), HOMELAND SECURITY COMMITTEE: It certainly is a deal breaker for me. I mean, that's what the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution says. It provides protects American citizens from unreasonable search and seizures.

We can't have a situation where ICE agents are running around this country, kicking people's door down in the middle of the night with no reason whatsoever. We've seen this time and time again. The news clips, the videos are coming out, and it's absolutely outrageous.

And that is a nonstarter for me.

SANCHEZ: Do you believe that Speaker Schumer is handling this adequately? There are some of your colleagues, especially progressives in the House, who have said that they don't have confidence in him, that they believe that he relinquished significant leverage when he agreed to fund other parts of the government outside of DHS. Do you have confidence in him?

JOHNSON: Well, I mean, we have to have confidence in him. He's the leader of the Senate, and we need the Senate to do its job. We need the Senate to hold the line on what's right in this country.

I have absolute confidence in Hakeem Jeffries. He's who I hear from. He's who I see.

He's whose strategy I get to listen to every day. And what I do know is that, you know, it was unfortunate that I think Schumer did some initial negotiations without Hakeem Jeffries, and I think that's a mistake. Both bodies need to proceed in parallel.

[15:40:00] They need to proceed together, hand in hand, because it takes both of us to pass something. And we're all Democrats fighting for the same values, which is we protect the people of this country from unreasonable searches and seizures. We protect the people in this country to have their due process rights preserved, that you just can't willy-nilly come after people, and that it is fair to protest, it's fair to free speech, that a threat to law enforcement is not a whistle and a cell phone.

SANCHEZ: I ask about Minority Leader Schumer in part because in speaking to CNN just a short while ago, he would not rule out a short- term stopgap in DHS funding if negotiations move forward. I'm wondering if you agree with him. What you would need to see to have you support the idea of having temporary funding in order to finish off the negotiation further down the road.

JOHNSON: Well, you know, we've had this 10 days. We've already had temporary funding. Everybody has known that the DHS funding deadline of January 31st was on the calendar.

Everybody has known that this is coming, and they haven't moved the needle, they haven't gotten the job done, and ICE hasn't reined itself in. You know, that was one of the things that was very apparent in the hearing today, is that the leadership of ICE has absolutely no interest in regulating and reforming the rogue actors within this institution. And it's absolutely unreasonable to me to give them one more penny for even one more day until they do.

SANCHEZ: In exchange for getting these demands that Democrats have laid out, would you be willing to support some aspects of the SAVE Act, in part requiring voter ID for voting and also requiring proof of citizenship even to register to vote? That's something that a majority of Democrats in recent polling show that they support. Would you back it?

JOHNSON: Well, you know, the SAVE Act is a whole other situation. You know, I come from Texas. We already have voter ID in Texas.

The question is always the devil is in the details, right? If you have to preserve -- produce a passport, for example, in order to register to vote, we have tens of millions of people in this country that don't have access to passports. Are we going to then waive the passport fee of $150 so it's not an unreasonable poll tax to be able to show proof of citizenship?

You know, another aspect in that SAVE Act is for married women. They say now you have to sign an affidavit. Again, that requires a notary public.

Are we going to have notaries at every single poll location? Are we going to require all the married women in this country to go out and then hire a notary to get the affidavit in order to vote? You know, the devil isn't always is in the details on how these things are manifested.

But what we know is with the SAVE Act as introduced, it's going to -- I'm about to head to the Rules Committee right now to offer some amendments. It clearly restricts people's access to the polls. Why not have online?

Why can't you show proof of citizenship online? Why are you required to go in person to a local office?

SANCHEZ: Congressman, before we go, I mentioned that I would ask you about the hearing. There was a moment that stood out to me. The acting ICE director called out something you said in a recent interview this month.

You referred to ICE actions as Gestapo raids, referencing Nazi Germany. He responded by saying that families of ICE personnel have been made to feel unsafe in their homes, adding that he himself knows this firsthand because his own family was targeted. Did hearing that change your thought process on the way that you're referring to ICE tactics?

What is your response to him?

JOHNSON: Well, I absolutely do not support people doxing ICE agents and attacking people's families. That's inappropriate. And we should address that legislatively.

No one should have to endure that on any level. But having said that, what they're doing is that we have -- we've seen example after example of example. The shooting of Alex Pretti is a classic one.

And Renee Goode, where people are having out of bounds authority. They are terrorizing people and they are infringing upon people's rights the same way that we've seen in other authoritarian regimes throughout history. And what we see is they're failing to reenact -- and they're failing to rein in their bad actors is a huge part of the problem.

The fact there's no accountability there. And that is why people are feeling the way that they do.

SANCHEZ: Congresswoman Julie Johnson, thank you so much for sharing your perspective. Appreciate your time.

JOHNSON: It's great to be with you.

SANCHEZ: Thanks so much.

Still ahead, 10 days after Nancy Guthrie disappeared from her home, the FBI releases new photos and video from a camera outside her house showing a masked and armed person. We have more details when we come back.

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KEILAR: We're following breaking news on these new surveillance images and videos from Nancy Guthrie's front door camera that the FBI released just a short time ago. Savannah Guthrie sharing this image on her Instagram and writing, someone out there recognizes this person. We believe she is still out there.

Bring her home.

SANCHEZ: CNN senior correspondent Josh Campbell is with us now. Josh, I want to point out one of the photos released by the FBI is different from the rest. In this one, the subject does not appear to be wearing the backpack that he's wearing in the rest of them.

You can't see their gun. The holster was appearing to be attached to their belt, and their ski mask appears to be pulled over the top of their jacket collar. How do you read the difference in the images?

JOSH CAMPBELL, CNN SENIOR CORRESPONDENT: Well, we don't have actual timestamps, so it is difficult to say for sure, but this is notable in the different appearance with some of those items and some of these different images. Now, there's some possibilities here. It's possible that if this individual was around that home for quite some time and wanted to do some kind of form of reconnaissance, you know, up to the doorway itself, obviously walking up there without a brandish firearm, you know, that you could see would certainly be less threatening.

The mask is always a big question.

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I mean, even in the post-COVID era, you see someone wearing a ski mask like that. That would certainly be alarming.

But this video is critical, and especially the quality of this new video that we're getting as well. You see the person come at one point. It appears that they go back and grab some type of foliage or flowers from the yard and then try to use that to obscure the actual camera itself.

We know the camera was eventually taken by the suspect. But just look at that. You see these thick gloves.

You see the mask. This person is clothed from head to toe. You know, criminals are sometimes smart in this day and age.

This person may have, you know, not been prepared not to leave behind any type of fingerprints or hair fiber or skin cells that it could all be used for DNA. But what the police want now is for everyone to look at this video.

If you think you recognize this person, call the FBI.

KEILAR: Yes, leaving behind a lot of images of themself, though, even with the face mask, we see them walking. We see their eyes there.

There's a lot there. There's also a lot of possessions that they are wearing, holding. How difficult, Josh, is it to track down that the sales of items like the ski mask, the backpack, the jacket, the gun holder?

CAMPBELL: This can be tedious work, but it's critical. And it's what investigators will always try to determine if they have an unknown subject. And that is, you know, where might these items have been bought?

They would go so far as to try to scour, OK, what companies actually sell that type of ski mask or that type of backpack, the shirt, the jacket. The firearm is a little bit more difficult because you can see it looks like a semi-automatic handgun, but no revealing features that we can really see there. But they will try to look at all those items.

And we've seen again in past cases that if they can find out a point of sale, what companies may have been selling this, that could then potentially lead to financial records, you know, that were used in that actual transaction as they try to make an identification. I do suspect that, you know, there was some time between when the authorities actually got this video to now when they're releasing it because they would want to get a jump on all of those things going on behind the scenes. But even that can be very critical.

KEILAR: Yes, certainly. Josh Campbell, thank you so much for that analysis.

CAMPBELL: You bet.

KEILAR: Coming up, what a pilot wanted his wife to know as his plane was making an emergency landing.

Stay with us.

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SANCHEZ: We have a dramatic scene to show you in Gainesville, Georgia, after a small plane crash landed on a busy road. And just moments before touching the ground, the pilot radioed air traffic control with this message.

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PILOT: Gainesville traffic, this is Bonanza 2-2-9, we're not going to make it. Please tell my wife, Molly, I love her and my parents. I love them so much.

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KEILAR: He did make it, though. But my goodness, CNN aviation correspondent Pete Muntean here with video of this incredible emergency landing where he did get to share that message in person later.

PETE MUNTEAN, CNN AVIATION CORRESPONDENT: Yes, spoiler alert. You know, buy this pilot a stiff drink because he did a really, really good job here putting this plane down on a very, very busy road in Gainesville, Georgia. Not long after takeoff.

You have to see the video here because this is so, so telling about what took place here at noontime. This is Browns Bridge Road here in Gainesville, Georgia. This is lunchtime.

Usually a really congested intersection, folks online are saying. And you can see it put down this Beech Bonanza -- same type of airplane I fly -- right there pretty much in the lane dividers. A really, really slow dissipation of energy here.

Clipped a car. No big deal. Everyone essentially walked away here.

The saying in aviation goes, any landing you can walk away from is a good one. This seems to be a forced landing because of engine trouble. And I just want to show you the flight path here.

This is from ADSB Exchange. This plane took off from the Gainesville Airport here to the northeast around noontime yesterday. This is where the problems seem to have really occurred at about 3,150 ft. 3,200 ft. Remember that number?

The plane made a turn back towards the airport. Always try and find the best landing spot you can in an emergency landing like this. When you lose engine power in a single engine airplane, probably the worst thing that could possibly happen.

Pilot made a choice to try and make it straight back into one of the intersecting runways here at Gainesville Airport but obviously did not make it. A Bonanza like this -- this type of airplane -- a great, high powered airplane, very stout, very well built.

You can see from the crash. It's not much of a glider. It has a glide ratio of about 10 to 1. People think that when you lose an engine, you just fall out of the sky.

But a plane like this can just because of physics, go 10 ft forward for every one foot of altitude you have. Although the difference here between 3,200 ft and the elevation of the airport, 1,200 ft was only about 2,000 ft. The distance to travel here.

I looked it up about 20,000 feet -- a little bit of back of the napkin math -- was probably going to be tight from the start. And so you can see he made this wise choice to go on Brownsburg Road.

Not the easiest thing to do to land an airplane on the road. You might think it looks like a runway. That's a sure bet.

This was really, really difficult, especially when you consider -- and here's one of the still frames here -- just all of the obstacles here at the airport. Here's a telephone pole.

Here's another one. Here's another one. Here's the traffic light.

Look at all of these wires, which is a huge factor when you consider an emergency landing like this, clipping one of these wires. This could have been a really bad day. Everybody walked away from this with really not much in the way of serious injuries.

Even the people on the ground weren't all that hurt. Any landing you could walk away from. I said the stiff drink, maybe an even stiffer drink, now I think about it.

SANCHEZ: Seriously, there is a car turning right just as the plane was coming down. You imagine being in that car turning right and seeing this plane coming straight for you. Incredible that no one was seriously injured.

Shout out to that pilot right before Valentine's Day. Just dropping that in there just in case, just in case.

KEILAR: Yes, he's got to let his wife know. That's a tough landing when you spell it out the way you did there, Pete. Thank you so much for taking us through that. Unbelievable, right?

SANCHEZ: Yes.

KEILAR: Unbelievable.

SANCHEZ: We got about 10 seconds to kill. Thank you so much for joining us. "THE ARENA" with Kasie Hunt starts right now.

KEILAR: He put on the DL.

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