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Polls on Hungary's Election; Ryan Roslansky and Aneesh Raman are Interviewed about A.I.; Aired 9:30-10a ET

Aired April 09, 2026 - 09:30   ET

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ADM. JAMES STAVRIDIS (RET.), CNN SENIOR MILITARY ANALYST: What Israel is clearly doing is taking the forces that were being used against Iran, Kate, and simply redirecting them against southern Lebanon. I think Bibi Netanyahu sees an opportunity here to inflict massive damage on Hezbollah, the proxy of Iran that's dominated Lebanese politics, and the Lebanese body politic for decades.

So, look for those to continue unless the United States very directly, they'll do it privately, but very directly tells Israel to stand down.

KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: From your -- I mean, and, yes, it's all just what we're seeing publicly in the statements that are being made. Do you think the ceasefire is, one, in place and, two, is holding? I mean, do you think it will fall apart?

STAVRIDIS: I'd say there's a two in three chance that it holds. So, 65 percent call it chance. It remains. And the reason is because the incentives on both sides are pretty high. President Trump is looking at gas prices and an election coming in November. Political pressure on the Iranian side. They know that the U.S. military is still on station and capable of launching even bigger strikes.

So, call it 65 percent that we can work through the current fog of war. But, Kate, there is a 35 percent chance the wheels come off here. There's a lot of unfinished business out there that could drive this thing right back to combat.

BOLDUAN: You kind of synthesized what you're watching. I was reading on social media, you said there are three things you're watching with the ceasefire. You said, one, is the Strait actually open? Two, is there a real follow on negotiation concerning the nuclear material? And, three, where are U.S. ground troops, both Marines and paratroopers headed?

Trump just tweeted that all U.S. forces are going to remain in the region, you know, kind of, unless and until he sees a real agreement. But do you yet have any answers or indications on any of these questions, important ones that you're posing?

STAVRIDIS: Well, the graphic you're showing right now, Kate, is a pretty clear indication that the first thing I'm watching is the Strait. And here's a news flash, it ain't open. And until either the U.S. military or the Europeans or China or some combination thereof actually go through and conduct minesweeping, run naval combatants through it, until that happens, I don't think civilian mariners who aren't paid to take that risk are going to be willing. So, that's the first one.

Second one, some good news. It does appear that negotiators are headed to Islamabad. You showed a photograph moment earlier, Vice President Vance. That's a lot of Trump firepower headed in person. So that's a good thing.

And to the third point, which you raise, a smart one is, the Marines, the paratroopers, where the heck are they? Unclear at the moment, but as you indicated, President Trump is going to keep them positioned. That could be worth watching in the days ahead as we assess whether this ceasefire holds or not.

BOLDUAN: And now big questions about NATO. Obviously you -- you're a former NATO supreme allied commander. And I wanted to ask you about what Trump just posted overnight, posting this. "NATO wasn't there when we needed them, and they won't be there if we need them again. Remember Greenland, that big, poorly run piece of ice."

And then "The Wall Street Journal" has new reporting that the president is considering removing troops from NATO countries he thinks were unhelpful during the Iran War. What is the significance of this threat? What do you see in it?

STAVRIDIS: First and foremost, I simply want to say, NATO was there when we needed them after we were attacked on 9/11. The Europeans, who had not been attacked, came in tens of thousands, almost 50,000 of them, stationed in Afghanistan under my command. They fought bravely as well. So, let's dispense with the NATO's not there when we need them.

In terms of this particular moment, I think where this is headed is, President Trump will look at some of the nations that denied, for example, overflight basing rights, notably Spain, which is also a laggard on defense spending, and perhaps start pulling some U.S. troops out of those countries. That's economically significant for those nations who are happy to have those American troops, not only for security, but also for economic benefit. So, I think that's where this is headed, as opposed to a full-blown withdrawal from NATO, which would be a geopolitical mistake of epic proportion.

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BOLDUAN: Admiral, it's great to see you. Thank you so much.

Coming up for us, the drastically changing job market. How to stay ahead in the workplace as A.I. is reshaping every aspect of our lives. The CEO, the top -- the heads of LinkedIn are here with the book that they just wrote.

The verdict is also in. A Hawaii doctor now faces sentencing after being convicted of trying to kill his wife while they were on a hike.

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JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: All right, Vice President J.D. Vance just left Hungary, where he really was on a campaign swing -- there's really no other way to put it -- for Hungary's prime minister, Viktor Orban, who faces a tough re-election bid this weekend. Orban is seen as Vladimir Putin's biggest ally in Europe.

So, what are the chances that Orban will win? How will the trip from J.D. Vance help out?

With us now, CNN chief data analyst Harry Enten.

So, what are the predictions?

HARRY ENTEN, CNN CHIEF DATA ANALYST: Yes, what are the prediction markets showing? It -- to me it looks like there's a real chance that Viktor Orban goes down to defeat. Just take a look here. This is the Kalshi prediction market. Look, chance Orban is Hungary's prime minister after the 2026 election? You go back to the beginning of the year. It was basically an even split, 48 percent chance that, in fact, he would be the prime minister after the election. Down it goes. Down it goes. We're looking now at just a 31 percent chance, about a one in three shot. And I was also looking at the numbers pre and post J.D. Vance visit. If anything, they might have gone down slightly. But there really has been no impact. J.D. Vance not helping out an ally of his abroad.

BERMAN: Kate was talking to Congressman Don Bacon from Nebraska yesterday, who said it's really unusual for overt political activity from a president or vice president campaigning for a foreign leader there.

ENTEN: Yes.

BERMAN: Is this the type of thing you think, based on the polls, that Americans want to see?

ENTEN: No, I was already shaking my head but -- when you were asking the question, because the American people want the focus to be here, here domestically, not abroad. Just take a look at this. Take a look here. Look at this. Trump admin is focusing too much on foreign matters. Fifty-eight percent. Fifty-eight percent of Americans believe that the Trump administration is too focused on things abroad. What they believe also is there's been too little focus on domestic matters. Look at this, 60 percent of Americans believe there's been too little focus on domestic matters.

Now, of course, the Iran War is part of this, right? But this is just part of a larger picture. The belief that the presidency and the administration of Donald Trump, in his second term, they have taken their eye off the ball. They are looking abroad when Americans want them looking at home. And, of course, J.D. Vance going and campaigning for the prime minister of another country that is pretty far away from here is just part of a larger picture that the American people dislike. BERMAN: So, Vice President Vance, how's he doing? How popular?

ENTEN: Yes, he -- J.D. Vance is not doing too hot to trot at this point. Look at this. OK, J.D. Vance's net popularity. This should actually be a plus. There we go. Plus three points. Then we go to minus 18 points at this point. That is a 21-point swing in the wrong direction. J.D. Vance started off his -- the vice presidency in plus territory and now he is in negative territory. Down he goes. J.D. Vance getting dragged down along with the president of the United States.

BERMAN: Where does he run? Maybe along with -- maybe because of that. That -- we don't -- we don't know that.

ENTEN: We don't know.

BERMAN: But where does he rank among other vice presidents?

ENTEN: Yes, you look at other vice presidents. Look at this, at this point in their vice presidency, historically the worst, worst at this point in a vice presidency. Kamala Harris was at minus 13. Mike Pence was at minus seven. Joe Biden was a plus four. Dick Cheney was at plus 37. This might be part of a longer trend of vice presidents becoming unpopular, but we can say J.D. Vance is historically the least popular vice president at this point in their vice presidency.

BERMAN: Yes, that is notable. It may just be a thing where Americans, over time, we just hate everything.

ENTEN: Yes, that's true.

BERMAN: Increasingly hated.

ENTEN: But I love you.

BERMAN: Thank you. I appreciate that. Even though a lot less than you did in 2002.

A lot of news this morning. We'll be right back.

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BOLDUAN: New this morning, artificial intelligence is quickly changing almost every part of all of our daily lives. It's also, as we well know and are tracking, playing a bigger and bigger role in some of the job cuts we're seeing at companies big and small. There's now a new study out from researchers at the Boston Consulting Group that estimates that 50 to 55 percent of jobs in the U.S. will be reshaped by A.I. over the next three years. Also estimates that 15 percent of jobs could be replaced by A.I. over the next five.

This is leaving a lot of people with a lot of anxiety and wondering what to do about something they know and feel like they know so little about, and what the future of A.I. looks like for their jobs. Our next guest just wrote the book on how to manage it and to get

control of that, now a "New York Times" bestseller, "Open to Work: How to Get Ahead in the Age of A.I."

Joining us here is LinkedIn's CEO Ryan Roslansky, and LinkedIn's chief economic opportunity officer, Aneesh Raman.

Good to see you guys. Thank you for being here.

This is based off of -- and I was reading this -- it's like a -- more than a billion insights and data coming -- insights and data from more than a billion professionals that you have on LinkedIn, which by the way, the reach of LinkedIn is just remarkable in and of itself on a regular day.

A question I always like to ask is, what was the moment, Ryan, the spark, the thing that pushed you from, like, we all want to write a book, but pushed you from, I want to write it to I'm going to take the time to actually do this and we need to do it now.

RYAN ROSLANSKY, CEO, LINKEDIN: That's a great question because it's not an easy thing. And, you know, to your earlier point, by virtue of the activity that we see all day long on LinkedIn, companies posting jobs, members updating their profile, we do see the signals that you referenced in your report. You know, even if you're not changing your job right now, your job is changing on you. The skills required to do anyone's job are changing rapidly.

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And then similarly, we're also seeing, you know, some jobs that are being changed, but also a lot of new jobs that are being created. And there's a lot of uncertainty in a labor market that's changing so dramatically. And we felt that while, you know, there's a lot of great ways that you can, you know, go to some of these social platforms and see a quick 30-second video on, you know, A.I. and what's changing, we wanted the medium to match the message and for us to, as human beings, sit down and really wrestle with, you know, this difficult subject and hopefully provide a guide to help people navigate their career.

BOLDUAN: I want to -- like -- and kind of going back to go forward, I want to start kind of with what you say at the end to get to the meat of this. You write, "you won't just be navigating the future of work, you'll be writing your story into it."

ANEESH RAMAN, CHIEF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY OFFICER, LINKEDIN: Yes.

BOLDUAN: And, one, that feels comforting, which is nice.

RAMAN: Yes.

BOLDUAN: So, thank you.

RAMAN: Yes.

BOLDUAN: But -- so what is -- I know, sum it up for me. RAMAN: Yes. Yes.

BOLDUAN: What is the roadmap that you're laying out?

RAMAN: Yes.

BOLDUAN: How do you manage it?

RAMAN: I think, first, we really want everyone to start with, A.I. can do a lot, but so can we. So can humans. And one thing A.I. cannot do is beat us at being us. These unique human capabilities we have, and we talk about them in the book, curiosity, compassion, creativity, courage, communication, those are us at our best as humans. And so, as the tools sort of take some of the drudgery out of our day to day, but help us do new things at work, we're going to anchor on what makes us us. And that's really what we try and push people.

One of the last chapters is called "No One Beats You at Being You." And one of our theories is, everyone's going to have careers that look squiggly line. I mean I started my career as an overnight assignment editor in Atlanta at CNN, and now I have this job that he made up a year ago. That's a squiggly line career. At the start, it would have made no sense. Now it does because I hone certain skills. I built certain capabilities.

So, we hope everyone feels a little more agency, a little less anxious, and feels like they can build work around their uniqueness.

BOLDUAN: Yes. So, in some of the -- one of the many interesting parts is like, as you said, you're pulling from real people, real data and real stories. And one of the people you profile is, and I hope I'm not butchering their name, is Janita Grisham (ph).

RAMAN: Yes. Yes.

BOLDUAN: Yes, sorry. A nurse who described herself as a hell no to A.I. person before her perspective.

RAMAN: Yes.

BOLDUAN: We all know several of those. What made her story stand out?

ROSLANSKY: I think it's a story that, you know, everyone right now is grappling with this idea that something feels like it's changing, and I have a chance in my mind to say, do I want to adapt to this or do I want to stay in the path that I've always had?

And, you know, for someone that's, you know, later on in their career to say, hey, I'm actually going to take the time to understand this. And, oh my gosh, once I took the time to understand it, I can see the value in it and how it actually helps me become better at what I'm doing, be more productive for what I'm doing, just a great shot -- this isn't just about, you know, the next generation of, you know, college kids who are grown up A.I. native, but everyone needs to figure out a way right now to adapt A.I. and leverage it for what they're trying to do in their job. BOLDUAN: Understandably, a lot of this focuses on the individual.

RAMAN: Yes.

BOLDUAN: The individual worker and what they can do and should do.

ROSLANSKY: Yes.

BOLDUAN: What's the responsibility of the employer?

RAMAN: Big responsibility. I think all we talk about in the book that as individuals you can only do so much. You can use the tools. You can reshape your job, your career, but you've got to be in a company that's supporting that growth and that's adapting. And you've got to be in a country and in an economy that's not just thinking about A.I. and building technological capability, but thinking about workforce development and helping people learn in new ways, get hired in new ways.

This is going to change work at a really fundamental level. We're about to put the mind at the center of work, no longer the machine. We got to teach and train new capabilities, like curiosity and courage and entrepreneurialism, as we talk about in the book. We've got to hire and promote in different ways. Those soft skills that were dismissed in the last era matter a lot now. So, there's a lot of work to do. And part of what we hope is a new conversation emerges among leaders to get to work on it.

BOLDUAN: It's not just in the abstract. I mean, A.I. -- LinkedIn has a lot -- is utilizing A.I. How are you applying these principles, have you applied these principles at the company? Has it led to grappling with some tough decisions with regard to A.I. and the impact of it all?

ROSLANSKY: I think every company right now has to realize that, you know, standing still is not an option.

BOLDUAN: Yes.

ROSLANSKY: And reinventing who you are, your culture, how you operate is one of the most difficult things that any company can go through. So, like everyone out there in the world right now, you know, LinkedIn is also figuring out, how do we best leverage A.I. to make everyone more productive? How do we best leverage A.I. to build a better platform that can help people find opportunity? But, you know, the most important thing is a mindset that, look, the way we did things even 18 months ago can't be the way that we do things today.

BOLDUAN: To -- is it -- is it even worth the time anymore? Because there's a lot of conversation, are you -- I'll say anti-A.I., pro- A.I.? Are you a detractor? Are you a booster? Is it fatalistic? Is it the opposite of that? What would you put yourselves as? Just -- I'm guessing just more like A.I. realists. But, like, where do you put yourself on this kind of scale?

ROSLANSKY: Yes, I mean, I definitely think, you know, A.I. is here to stay. It'll be one of the most transformative technologies that any of us probably see in our lifetime. And we can all tell ourselves a really positive story about what A.I. is going to do, or a very negative story about what A.I. is going to do.

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And most likely the story that we all tell ourselves is what's going to happen. So, that's why we're trying to create a framework here about how everyone can make A.I. to be a positive impact on what they're doing in their career, understanding that it's real, it's here and it will be disruptive.

RAMAN: And it's why we focused, I think, so much on the individual, because right now it does feel in this conversation like everything is figured out. We write about how, if you're a worker, you're like, I'm just along for this ride.

BOLDUAN: Yes.

RAMAN: And A.I. knows, or CEO knows or media knows. That is not how this works. Like, we will all make decisions every day and then collectively make decisions about where this goes as societies. And we wanted to inspire that sense of agency, because this is not figured out. We will determine where it goes.

BOLDUAN: It does not eliminate you being you, which I think is a -- let's take that and run with that one today.

It's really good. Thanks for coming in. I really appreciate it, guys.

And here is the book you see right there, "Open to Work."

J.B., come on in. Come on in. Come on in, J.B.

I know, we always have this awkward dance of trying to get to the table at the end of the show, and now we're here together.

Thanks, guys, for being here with us. I really appreciate it.

ROSLANSKY: Thanks for having us.

BERMAN: And thank you all for joining us. So glad I made it. This is CNN NEWS CENTRAL. "THE SITUATION ROOM" is up next.

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